Most terrorists aren't exactly the sharpest marbles in the sack, either
Sharp marbles? That explains it! No wonder this guy's got worn down fingerprints! Give him the round smooth marbles we use to use when I was a kid and it'll all be fine.
the officers disclosed information about extra-marital affairs, drug abuse, visits to prostitutes, medical conditions, criminal convictions and debt histories -- information the military needed to determine their security risk
If yes to any of the above do you want these as officers? Even the extra-marital affairs in most circumstances provide proof that the person is capable of disloyalty.
The real problem is if they have done any of this and don't admit to it, they're disloyal, liars that shouldn't be given clearance. If they do admit it, they're too stupid to be in a position of authority. The only way time you want to ask these questions is if you know the answer in advance and the answer is "squeaky clean".
Ah, of course, yet another demonstration of your utterly hopeless reading comprhension.
You're incapable of commenting without insulting the reader. Seek help.
My point lost? Nah, you just proved my point won, you see I can take a vigorous debate and answer without swearing where you cant, you stamp your little feet and jump up and down like a 5 year old.
See above. You're also incapable of answering a post without being hypocritical. Seek help.
Have a look what the mods have done to my posts, get the hint?
You consider moderation an infallible indicator of truth and seek to validate your own posts based on the random moderation of a whole bunch of people who probably have no knowledge of the subject. That's just sad. Really sad. Seek help.
Nah I didnt think so. You never managed a counter argument at all, (Except in your own mind) when you swear and are outwardly abusive you get what you deserve
Do you even realize the irony of ranting, raving, and throwing insults while complaining about a few swear words? You're a childish troll, aren't you? Seek help.
You find a simple statement of the truth an insult, grow some balls and try to be adult.
That's your counter argument? "Grow some balls and try to be an adult"? You mistake truth for opinion and are arrogant. Seek help.
Like I said go outside and play for a while and come back when you can behave like an adult.
A clear demonstration of how an adult conducts a rational argument. Your hypocrisy abounds. Seek help.
Meanwhile I will just sit on my growing karma mountain and watch the fun of you digging a deeper hole for yourself.
Been watching "My name is Earl" again? Karma is a childish expectation that the universe is a fair place, based on a mistaken grasp of the law of averages. Even so it is clearly way beyond your ability to comprehend. Seek help.
By the way IF I was insulting you I would say something like "You are a brainless fuckwad weenie
That comment: A) was an ineffective and week insult B) invalidated your assertion that you are superior to me because you don't swear
By the way at age 12, hurling abuse by prefixing it with "IF I was insulting you" might seem clever. For an adult it's just sad. Seek help.
Go ahead, live on your high karma mountain where your self worth is decided by moderation on an internet board. YOU have to live with yourself. What insult could I possibly hurl back that would even compare that fate? You're not even capable of putting together a logically consistent string of insults that doesn't show you up for the hypocrite you are.
Because DVD Playback requires a basic $5~ codec (for all the patent holders etc) some versions of Windows do not ship with it and thus without third party applications like PowerDVD or WinDVD that supply a codec, DVD Playback is "impossible."
Pirates! Theives! No one sold them a license to play the DVD in space! Unless it's region 0 it must be illegal. Either that or your software would have to play one DVD per region in the Shuttle's orbit (and of synchronise switching between players while switching other players off to avoid licensing violations). No the lag they'd experience with playback is not an excuse!
Ah I see you swear and are abusive, and I need an anger management course.
Go back and take a look at who started hurling insults first you fool.
Me the troll, ROFLMAO.
Once again you mis comprehend what I wrote, are you doing this deliberately or are you really as poor at reading comprehension as you come across?
Another insult. It's actually pretty difficult to misinterpret an insult. You seem to be incapable of making a statement without insulting a wide range of people, then wondering why your point might just be lost.
I can't be bothered correcting your agro, blathering inaccurate dummy spits any more, why not ask Mum if you can go out and play instead?, it might make you relax a bit and you can come back and play again when you cool down.
Translation: I've run out of steam counter-arguing, and am down to just insults now. Unfortunately I've run out of even them.
Did you just read what you typed??? How the !@$% am i suppose to know that key combination when I'm first trying to get help on a new editor? Ever heard of a menu?
Seriously, this wasn't a trolling insult against your favourite editor. No editor should require me to know things I can't quickly work out from it's own interface.
The difference between science, religion and morality.
Science: can be demonstrated to be true, at least within the limits of the human condition. Morality: Demonstrated way of getting along with others in society. Religion: Fairy stories that are not verifiable and lead to twisting of both morality and science.
Only a religious or dillusional person can justify killing innocent people suicide bomb style, or literally believe the world is 6000 years old, and honestly believe themselves to be correct.
They aren't the same thing at all. Teaching nonsense alongside truth and telling your kids both are equal is harmful.
Vi is one editor every professional should know the basics of because it's very feature complete and versatile. Emacs is more specialized but I'm not knocking it. However if you're developing today, you need to move away from modal editors that have awful help systems and no menus. They simply don't encourage learning and get in your way if you're away from the editor for too long and have to try to remember obscure commands (or look them up!). Note they are EDITORS. An IDE does much much more. You should also be using IDEs and editors that support multiple languages. Gone are the days when a computer professional could afford to know just one or two languages. Who the hell wants to learn the quirks of different editors for each one?
There's no need any more to push a big chunk of wood through the air at breakneck speed with a motor that gives everyone within half a mile an earache. You can fly in the park these days, and people will think it's cute.
Your parks must be very different to ours. Here, they ban kites in most parks. Your parks sound magical. Are there elves and fairies too?
If you bothered to read and comprehend my post and the one I was replying, you would find you claimed one needed to spend thousands of dollars to learn to fly RC, which is evidently wrong.
Are you even capable of communicating without insulting the person you're trying to talk to?
I contend that most people will need to spend at least hundreds. Once you add the equipment required to robotise the plane, thousands is accurate.
The soar birdy was an american (Joe Bridi kit) basic 2 ch design sold in the thousands, and would be known by anyone with a long term involvement in RC.
Shall I adopt your approach and insult anyone flying less than 4 channel? Or shall I simply point out that the less channels you have the more precise your robotics would need to be?
I still have the models I made 25 years ago in perfect condition, and fly them about once a year, dut to a heavy instructing commtiment and time spent flying real sailplanes, which I find much more interesting.
I think if you were my instructor I'd chew off my own leg. You're an arrogant self-aggrandising prat.
As for glo engines, all my recent visists to RC clubs have revealed more electric than glo motors in all cases. Are you in the backwoods somewhere?
So troll, are you calling me a liar as well as insulting where I live? Glo engines are still alive and kicking in plenty of places. If you live somewhere where circumstance, fashion, or law mean electrics are more popular, that's fantastic. Do you really have to insult everyone else? You're a fucking idiot.
Why do you have a problem with my personal opinion of glo motors and powered flying, if you comprehend the writen word you would see that I said "I found power boring" not power flying is boring-idiot.
Are you denying you're just liberal with your insults. You're quibbling about the way you insulted everyone who enjoys power flying? What planet are you from?
"Advice like yours keeps people from getting into the hobby"
Yeh right that has been my experience in the 30 years + I have been instructing model pilots.
Honest. I'd chew off my arm rather than have you as an instructor, and that's just based on a few posts.
I frequently am asked to test fly new models, some of us can move from a foamie to a pylon racer to a glider and back no trouble, were not all as one dimensional pilots as you seem to be.
More self-promotion. More insults. Are you capable of having a discussion about a topic rather than demonising anyone you don't agree with? How does that strengthen your argument? How old are you mentally?
Some presumptous slashdot dickweed lecturing me does not impress, especially when you were the one that made the revealingly ignorant and arrogant first post.
Arrogant?? Pot. Kettle. Black. At least I don't start by insulting and belittling everyone who doesn't share my own interests. You need to get a clue. They're models. Though some people at r/c clubs don't like hearing it we're talking about working complex toys. All of our accomplishments with them don't make us heroes. They don't give us the right to be rude. They're just a hobby. Get a fucking grip.
Try a reading comprehension course, then you might be able to reply to things I actually did say in my post rather than your laughably poor interpretation.
It simply isn't possible to misinterpret your liberal insults. You should take an effective writing course. Not to mention anger management and people skills. Honestly you're about as impressive at communicating as a monkey at a zoo flinging their own poo.
Perhaps serious scientists should stick with doing science, rather than refuting creationists and others with ideological agendas to push. Cause when you feed the trolls, the word gets around and you draw larger and larger numbers to be fed.
NO!!!! You do not let stupidity stand unchallenged for fear of "feeding trolls". You refute the evidence clearly, succinctly and as completely as possible to show that it's not true. Otherwise you might not draw attention to one particularly idiot but overall the quality of information available goes down the toilet.
Your ignorance of models is revealed by the fact you dont even know what a soar birdy is. It was an all built balsa and ply 2 ch floater common some years ago.
Oh yes, of course. My entire knowledge of R/C aircraft should be judged by my lack of knowledge of a single model that was common where YOU live "some years ago". I need to go back to r/c school right now. I suggest you google the phrase "people skills".
Actually, I designed and built kevlar, glass and carbon moulded F3B models 25 years ago, winning a round of the OZ nationals so I might just have more of a clue than you about model aircraft.
IF you did, then you probably know a hell of a lot more than me. HOWEVER, my point about people skills still stands. If you know so much about models, you know how unsuitable the models you're suggesting would be to transform into a robotic R/C plane.
I don't claim any such experience. I have built 4 models and flown 6 altogether. On my first flight I was doing advanced aerobatics (albeit sloppily) thanks to time on a simulator. In 4 years of flying I've totalled just one model and done minor damage on 2 other landings. I'm no natural, but I've gotten to the point where I can fly beginners aerobatic routines. I don't have the time and inclination nor wish to spend the money pursuing more specialised aircraft for competition. I'm not claiming to be any kind of expert, but I do know what happens to most r/c pilots who don't learn the right way. They crash a few times and are put off the hobby for life. Yours is the kind of attitude that encourages that.
Any of my F3B models could carry all the stuff you mention, it would be lighter than the designed ballast it carries.
Well why don't you go make a robot plane out of them, and prove me wrong.
I have flown glo powered pylon, pattern and many other contest model types....and all that experience has failed to teach you any humility whatsoever.
The EPP foam models I have seen have been extremely robust, I have seen them arrive vertically at high speed with no damage. I never mentioned electric power in respect to foamies, many years ago I found flying power models to be boring and pointless compared to gliders
Well there are plenty of people besides me who'd disagree about how "boring" and "pointless" flying power models are. If YOU find it boring, that's fine, but your smug, superior, arrogant and abrasive attitude, combined with your inability to accomodate other people's interests mean I have no confidence that your advice is any good.
Glo fuel, ha, the 70's called and want their engines back.
You might want to tell more than half the guys at my club, all the guys at my father in law's club, a whole bunch of model manufacturers, not to mention the engine manufacturers themselves that glo fuel is so 70s. New model engines are still coming out today. Lots of people still prefer glo fuel for various reasons. But hey, why accommodate or acknowledge all those people when you can dismiss and insult them in fewer sentences.
Despite your claims, a cheap foam model is quite adequate to learn how to fly models of any type.
Advice like yours keeps people from getting into the hobby. They try to fly an advanced aircraft after a couple of weeks on a foamy and wonder why they come home with scrap.
Next time don't assume you have a clue about a subject your post shows you know little to nothing about....coming from someone who admits he has lost interest in the topic and has no current knowledge. It's hard to get upset when you're playing the clown so well.
I'll bet you're popular at your r/c club...Do you tell people to their face how pointless and boring their interests are?
Sure, if you're talking about full sized aircraft it's a minefield. For small hobby UAVs flying at the local r/c club (which seems to be what this story is about) it's less complex.
That hard? I mean i know it being remote control will make it more difficult, but flying gliders is a piece of piss, surely there are motorized glider R/Cs and learning to use them cant be too hard?
You'd be very surprised. You have a number of things you need to train yourself to do correctly before you can fly an RC plane. Someone else pointed out that there are easier electric foamies out there. That's true but I'd dispute that they are "virtually indestructible" or that once you learn them you'd have the skills to fly something larger and tackle this project.
Huh? took me 2 days to learn to fly RC, and that included a few repairs to the ol Soar Birdy.
Can your electric foamy carry a GPS, camera and other electronics you'd need to make it autonomous. I'm sorry but you're flying the absolute bottom end of the scale and you have decided that means you have "learnt to fly RC". There are many very cool planes out there that you wouldn't have a hope of flying without a lot more practice. That includes some of the most basic non-foam and glo fuel planes.
There are now many cheap virtually indestructable models made from EPP foam available, no need to spend thousands.
There's no such thing as virtually indestructable unless by virtually you mean not at all.
Of which there are quite a lot, particularly pertaining to autonomous operation. "Make sure the Feds have no problem with you" could be interpreted as "know the law and don't break it."
If he wanted to say "know the law" he should have said so clearly instead of "Oh my god! Robot plane! Feds will want to hunt you and your plane down and shoot you".
I'd make sure the Feds have no problem with you running something like this around. Best to make sure you won't get shot down/at.
People fly R/C all the time. There are clubs world wide and there are governing bodies which regulate a wide variety of things - where you can fly, how large your model can be without needing to be certified, what radio frequencies are permitted. What he's describing is more complex than R/C but there won't be much additional regulation to comply with and the "Feds" won't be interested unless he does something that violates the existing laws.
From your post you clearly know nothing about r/c aircraft. Learn to fly an r/c aircraft well without crashing. Go find a club and an instructor who'll teach you. Also get hold of a good simulator unless you want to spend thousands. That'll take you at least 6 months, probably closer to a year. (Longer if you don't have any aptitude for it). Flying r/c planes takes more practice and skill than you might think. It'll also cost more than you think. Once you have an appreciation for the difficulties of flying R/C you might stand half a chance programming one with a robotic interface. You'll also want to be able to take over manually from time to time when you're programming the thing so if you get something slightly wrong you've got some chance of saving it.
You could also learn about the robotics more simply with an r/c car. R/c cars can move slowly without any risk of falling out of the sky. Some of what you learn will translate to air, other parts won't.
If you want something off the shelf, I did read about robotised r/c helicopters for commercial applications like security but I think they cost in the 10's of thousands. I think you STILL need to know how to take over manually.
Yes, I know this is trivialising an incredibly complicated issue, so hopefully somebody with more of a clue than me can weigh in with the knowledge here.
You do realize that you posted the comment on slashdot right?
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I'm more interested in what they're going to do if I refuse? Throw me out of the country?
Jail. Possibly out of the country (ala Gitmo).
I;m unaware of any mass Christian movement to edit Wikipedia. Heck Christians can't even agree within themselves, how will they push an agenda.
Same way any group you define too broadly will: Divide into lots of subgroups each of which pushes its own agenda.
Most terrorists aren't exactly the sharpest marbles in the sack, either
Sharp marbles? That explains it! No wonder this guy's got worn down fingerprints! Give him the round smooth marbles we use to use when I was a kid and it'll all be fine.
the officers disclosed information about extra-marital affairs, drug abuse, visits to prostitutes, medical conditions, criminal convictions and debt histories -- information the military needed to determine their security risk
If yes to any of the above do you want these as officers? Even the extra-marital affairs in most circumstances provide proof that the person is capable of disloyalty.
The real problem is if they have done any of this and don't admit to it, they're disloyal, liars that shouldn't be given clearance. If they do admit it, they're too stupid to be in a position of authority. The only way time you want to ask these questions is if you know the answer in advance and the answer is "squeaky clean".
Ah, of course, yet another demonstration of your utterly hopeless reading comprhension.
You're incapable of commenting without insulting the reader. Seek help.
My point lost? Nah, you just proved my point won, you see I can take a vigorous debate and answer without swearing where you cant, you stamp your little feet and jump up and down like a 5 year old.
See above. You're also incapable of answering a post without being hypocritical. Seek help.
Have a look what the mods have done to my posts, get the hint?
You consider moderation an infallible indicator of truth and seek to validate your own posts based on the random moderation of a whole bunch of people who probably have no knowledge of the subject. That's just sad. Really sad. Seek help.
Nah I didnt think so. You never managed a counter argument at all, (Except in your own mind) when you swear and are outwardly abusive you get what you deserve
Do you even realize the irony of ranting, raving, and throwing insults while complaining about a few swear words? You're a childish troll, aren't you? Seek help.
You find a simple statement of the truth an insult, grow some balls and try to be adult.
That's your counter argument? "Grow some balls and try to be an adult"? You mistake truth for opinion and are arrogant. Seek help.
Like I said go outside and play for a while and come back when you can behave like an adult.
A clear demonstration of how an adult conducts a rational argument. Your hypocrisy abounds. Seek help.
Meanwhile I will just sit on my growing karma mountain and watch the fun of you digging a deeper hole for yourself.
Been watching "My name is Earl" again? Karma is a childish expectation that the universe is a fair place, based on a mistaken grasp of the law of averages. Even so it is clearly way beyond your ability to comprehend. Seek help.
By the way IF I was insulting you I would say something like "You are a brainless fuckwad weenie
That comment:
A) was an ineffective and week insult
B) invalidated your assertion that you are superior to me because you don't swear
By the way at age 12, hurling abuse by prefixing it with "IF I was insulting you" might seem clever. For an adult it's just sad. Seek help.
Go ahead, live on your high karma mountain where your self worth is decided by moderation on an internet board. YOU have to live with yourself. What insult could I possibly hurl back that would even compare that fate? You're not even capable of putting together a logically consistent string of insults that doesn't show you up for the hypocrite you are.
SEEK HELP.
Because DVD Playback requires a basic $5~ codec (for all the patent holders etc) some versions of Windows do not ship with it and thus without third party applications like PowerDVD or WinDVD that supply a codec, DVD Playback is "impossible."
Pirates! Theives! No one sold them a license to play the DVD in space! Unless it's region 0 it must be illegal. Either that or your software would have to play one DVD per region in the Shuttle's orbit (and of synchronise switching between players while switching other players off to avoid licensing violations). No the lag they'd experience with playback is not an excuse!
Ah I see you swear and are abusive, and I need an anger management course.
Go back and take a look at who started hurling insults first you fool.
Me the troll, ROFLMAO.
Once again you mis comprehend what I wrote, are you doing this deliberately or are you really as poor at reading comprehension as you come across?
Another insult. It's actually pretty difficult to misinterpret an insult. You seem to be incapable of making a statement without insulting a wide range of people, then wondering why your point might just be lost.
I can't be bothered correcting your agro, blathering inaccurate dummy spits any more, why not ask Mum if you can go out and play instead?, it might make you relax a bit and you can come back and play again when you cool down.
Translation: I've run out of steam counter-arguing, and am down to just insults now. Unfortunately I've run out of even them.
Get a life.
Emacs has a poor help system? Try C-h r sometime.
Did you just read what you typed??? How the !@$% am i suppose to know that key combination when I'm first trying to get help on a new editor? Ever heard of a menu?
Seriously, this wasn't a trolling insult against your favourite editor. No editor should require me to know things I can't quickly work out from it's own interface.
The difference between science, religion and morality.
Science: can be demonstrated to be true, at least within the limits of the human condition.
Morality: Demonstrated way of getting along with others in society.
Religion: Fairy stories that are not verifiable and lead to twisting of both morality and science.
Only a religious or dillusional person can justify killing innocent people suicide bomb style, or literally believe the world is 6000 years old, and honestly believe themselves to be correct.
They aren't the same thing at all. Teaching nonsense alongside truth and telling your kids both are equal is harmful.
. The key thing is that cults deceive people into joining so there is no real informed consent.
As opposed to being brainwashed from birth by your own parents 24/7?
Vi is one editor every professional should know the basics of because it's very feature complete and versatile. Emacs is more specialized but I'm not knocking it. However if you're developing today, you need to move away from modal editors that have awful help systems and no menus. They simply don't encourage learning and get in your way if you're away from the editor for too long and have to try to remember obscure commands (or look them up!). Note they are EDITORS. An IDE does much much more. You should also be using IDEs and editors that support multiple languages. Gone are the days when a computer professional could afford to know just one or two languages. Who the hell wants to learn the quirks of different editors for each one?
What else would you need?
Vallium, Panadol and Coke.
There's no need any more to push a big chunk of wood through the air at breakneck speed with a motor that gives everyone within half a mile an earache. You can fly in the park these days, and people will think it's cute.
Your parks must be very different to ours. Here, they ban kites in most parks. Your parks sound magical. Are there elves and fairies too?
I've handed the transmitter to a friend who never flew an RC plane before and he could fly the plane just fine.
Either your friend was exceptional, or you're lying.
If you bothered to read and comprehend my post and the one I was replying, you would find you claimed one needed to spend thousands of dollars to learn to fly RC, which is evidently wrong.
Are you even capable of communicating without insulting the person you're trying to talk to?
I contend that most people will need to spend at least hundreds. Once you add the equipment required to robotise the plane, thousands is accurate.
The soar birdy was an american (Joe Bridi kit) basic 2 ch design sold in the thousands, and would be known by anyone with a long term involvement in RC.
Shall I adopt your approach and insult anyone flying less than 4 channel? Or shall I simply point out that the less channels you have the more precise your robotics would need to be?
I still have the models I made 25 years ago in perfect condition, and fly them about once a year,
dut to a heavy instructing commtiment and time spent flying real sailplanes, which I find much more interesting.
I think if you were my instructor I'd chew off my own leg. You're an arrogant self-aggrandising prat.
As for glo engines, all my recent visists to RC clubs have revealed more electric than glo motors in all cases. Are you in the backwoods somewhere?
So troll, are you calling me a liar as well as insulting where I live? Glo engines are still alive and kicking in plenty of places. If you live somewhere where circumstance, fashion, or law mean electrics are more popular, that's fantastic. Do you really have to insult everyone else? You're a fucking idiot.
Why do you have a problem with my personal opinion of glo motors and powered flying, if you comprehend the writen word you would see that I said "I found power boring" not power flying is boring-idiot.
Are you denying you're just liberal with your insults. You're quibbling about the way you insulted everyone who enjoys power flying? What planet are you from?
"Advice like yours keeps people from getting into the hobby"
Yeh right that has been my experience in the 30 years + I have been instructing model pilots.
Honest. I'd chew off my arm rather than have you as an instructor, and that's just based on a few posts.
I frequently am asked to test fly new models, some of us can move from a foamie to a pylon racer to a glider and back no trouble, were not all as one dimensional pilots as you seem to be.
More self-promotion. More insults. Are you capable of having a discussion about a topic rather than demonising anyone you don't agree with? How does that strengthen your argument? How old are you mentally?
Some presumptous slashdot dickweed lecturing me does not impress, especially when you were the one that made the revealingly ignorant and arrogant first post.
Arrogant?? Pot. Kettle. Black. At least I don't start by insulting and belittling everyone who doesn't share my own interests. You need to get a clue. They're models. Though some people at r/c clubs don't like hearing it we're talking about working complex toys. All of our accomplishments with them don't make us heroes. They don't give us the right to be rude. They're just a hobby. Get a fucking grip.
Try a reading comprehension course, then you might be able to reply to things I actually did say in my post rather than your laughably poor interpretation.
It simply isn't possible to misinterpret your liberal insults. You should take an effective writing course. Not to mention anger management and people skills. Honestly you're about as impressive at communicating as a monkey at a zoo flinging their own poo.
Perhaps serious scientists should stick with doing science, rather than refuting creationists and others with ideological agendas to push. Cause when you feed the trolls, the word gets around and you draw larger and larger numbers to be fed.
NO!!!! You do not let stupidity stand unchallenged for fear of "feeding trolls". You refute the evidence clearly, succinctly and as completely as possible to show that it's not true. Otherwise you might not draw attention to one particularly idiot but overall the quality of information available goes down the toilet.
Your ignorance of models is revealed by the fact you dont even know what a soar birdy is. It was an all built balsa and ply 2 ch floater common some years ago.
Oh yes, of course. My entire knowledge of R/C aircraft should be judged by my lack of knowledge of a single model that was common where YOU live "some years ago". I need to go back to r/c school right now. I suggest you google the phrase "people skills".
Actually, I designed and built kevlar, glass and carbon moulded F3B models 25 years ago, winning a round of the OZ nationals so I might just have more of a clue than you about model aircraft.
IF you did, then you probably know a hell of a lot more than me. HOWEVER, my point about people skills still stands. If you know so much about models, you know how unsuitable the models you're suggesting would be to transform into a robotic R/C plane.
I don't claim any such experience. I have built 4 models and flown 6 altogether. On my first flight I was doing advanced aerobatics (albeit sloppily) thanks to time on a simulator. In 4 years of flying I've totalled just one model and done minor damage on 2 other landings. I'm no natural, but I've gotten to the point where I can fly beginners aerobatic routines. I don't have the time and inclination nor wish to spend the money pursuing more specialised aircraft for competition. I'm not claiming to be any kind of expert, but I do know what happens to most r/c pilots who don't learn the right way. They crash a few times and are put off the hobby for life. Yours is the kind of attitude that encourages that.
Any of my F3B models could carry all the stuff you mention, it would be lighter than the designed ballast it carries.
Well why don't you go make a robot plane out of them, and prove me wrong.
I have flown glo powered pylon, pattern and many other contest model types. ...and all that experience has failed to teach you any humility whatsoever.
The EPP foam models I have seen have been extremely robust, I have seen them arrive vertically at high speed with no damage. I never mentioned electric power in respect to foamies, many years ago I found flying power models to be boring and pointless compared to gliders
Well there are plenty of people besides me who'd disagree about how "boring" and "pointless" flying power models are. If YOU find it boring, that's fine, but your smug, superior, arrogant and abrasive attitude, combined with your inability to accomodate other people's interests mean I have no confidence that your advice is any good.
Glo fuel, ha, the 70's called and want their engines back.
You might want to tell more than half the guys at my club, all the guys at my father in law's club, a whole bunch of model manufacturers, not to mention the engine manufacturers themselves that glo fuel is so 70s. New model engines are still coming out today. Lots of people still prefer glo fuel for various reasons. But hey, why accommodate or acknowledge all those people when you can dismiss and insult them in fewer sentences.
Despite your claims, a cheap foam model is quite adequate to learn how to fly models of any type.
Advice like yours keeps people from getting into the hobby. They try to fly an advanced aircraft after a couple of weeks on a foamy and wonder why they come home with scrap.
Next time don't assume you have a clue about a subject your post shows you know little to nothing about. ...coming from someone who admits he has lost interest in the topic and has no current knowledge. It's hard to get upset when you're playing the clown so well.
I'll bet you're popular at your r/c club...Do you tell people to their face how pointless and boring their interests are?
Sure, if you're talking about full sized aircraft it's a minefield. For small hobby UAVs flying at the local r/c club (which seems to be what this story is about) it's less complex.
That hard? I mean i know it being remote control will make it more difficult, but flying gliders is a piece of piss, surely there are motorized glider R/Cs and learning to use them cant be too hard?
You'd be very surprised. You have a number of things you need to train yourself to do correctly before you can fly an RC plane. Someone else pointed out that there are easier electric foamies out there. That's true but I'd dispute that they are "virtually indestructible" or that once you learn them you'd have the skills to fly something larger and tackle this project.
Huh? took me 2 days to learn to fly RC, and that included a few repairs to the ol Soar Birdy.
Can your electric foamy carry a GPS, camera and other electronics you'd need to make it autonomous. I'm sorry but you're flying the absolute bottom end of the scale and you have decided that means you have "learnt to fly RC". There are many very cool planes out there that you wouldn't have a hope of flying without a lot more practice. That includes some of the most basic non-foam and glo fuel planes.
There are now many cheap virtually indestructable models made from EPP foam available, no need to spend thousands.
There's no such thing as virtually indestructable unless by virtually you mean not at all.
Of which there are quite a lot, particularly pertaining to autonomous operation. "Make sure the Feds have no problem with you" could be interpreted as "know the law and don't break it."
If he wanted to say "know the law" he should have said so clearly instead of "Oh my god! Robot plane! Feds will want to hunt you and your plane down and shoot you".
I'd make sure the Feds have no problem with you running something like this around. Best to make sure you won't get shot down/at.
People fly R/C all the time. There are clubs world wide and there are governing bodies which regulate a wide variety of things - where you can fly, how large your model can be without needing to be certified, what radio frequencies are permitted. What he's describing is more complex than R/C but there won't be much additional regulation to comply with and the "Feds" won't be interested unless he does something that violates the existing laws.
I hope you have a few spare thousand dollars.
From your post you clearly know nothing about r/c aircraft. Learn to fly an r/c aircraft well without crashing. Go find a club and an instructor who'll teach you. Also get hold of a good simulator unless you want to spend thousands. That'll take you at least 6 months, probably closer to a year. (Longer if you don't have any aptitude for it). Flying r/c planes takes more practice and skill than you might think. It'll also cost more than you think. Once you have an appreciation for the difficulties of flying R/C you might stand half a chance programming one with a robotic interface. You'll also want to be able to take over manually from time to time when you're programming the thing so if you get something slightly wrong you've got some chance of saving it.
You could also learn about the robotics more simply with an r/c car. R/c cars can move slowly without any risk of falling out of the sky. Some of what you learn will translate to air, other parts won't.
If you want something off the shelf, I did read about robotised r/c helicopters for commercial applications like security but I think they cost in the 10's of thousands. I think you STILL need to know how to take over manually.
Yes, I know this is trivialising an incredibly complicated issue, so hopefully somebody with more of a clue than me can weigh in with the knowledge here.
You do realize that you posted the comment on slashdot right?
Why would a drunk man try to eat wine with a fork?
Maybe it's frozen
Shouldn't he be fairly good at drinking wine correctly?
Perhaps he's attached to an IV alcohol drip ;-)