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Exactly who the fuck has 50GB in one source code tree?
-- BMO
Those who store data, images, other binaries like built executables and other artifacts alongside the code.
You can argue that you shouldn't do that, but there are times when it's difficult to avoid, and if you need to be able to keep versions, it can be done easily with something like SVN.
I think GIT has it's advantages, but to reject all predcessors and raise it up as the only way to go is foolish.
Whilst deindividuation is a recognised problem, I also believe the absence of non-verbal cues is a huge issue as well...Is it any wonder that tolerance is lacking?
No. It's a basic lack of manners. Individuals in the real world with a real world physical presence often have special needs but most of those needs are concealed or obfuscated by the internet anyway and few need to be accommodated. What is lacking here is basic manners and enough presence of mind to realize there's a real person on the other end.
Thankfully, we're not completely stupid, and we're starting to adapt to the problem. Hence my personal favourite phrase on the Internet: Don't feed the trolls.
Sorry but this is an idiotic meme. You might as well say "Let the bully win". The result I've seen is entire boards taken over by trolls with idiotic ideas (who are then revered as experts! Just what they crave!) My favourite way of expressing this is to Godwin the thread.
Note that I strongly disagree with you and used the word "idiotic", but at no time did I abuse you or call you an idiot. That's the other thing that's lacking. People think any disagreement with their pet idea is a personal attack and tend to respond with straw men, reductio and ad hominem fallacies, and schoolyard bullying. So few seem to be able to separate an attack on an idea with an attack on an individual anymore. Once the name calling starts, it takes great restraint on the other person's part not to retaliate...and as in real life it can escalate.
In looking for this, I found a Right Wing blog arguing that he was motivated by the belief in Evolution, another blog arguing that he was a liberal Al Queda sypathizer, a liberal blog arguing that he would be a member of the Tea Party if he lived in America and all of them using this 1500 pages of batshit insanity to justify their positions.
The way the news is going on, I was expecting it to be a modified Call of Duty manual, but it doesn't even get a mention till page 900. There is some cosplay too. Clearly that should be banned as well. Also the writing of 1518 page documents. Clearly that is the devil's true number. Let's ban reading and writing too. They convey terrorist ideas every day!
Why is this being downgraded to a "massacre" now that we know the perpetrators aren't Muslim?
Call it what it was. It was a terrorist attack. That's a superset of massacre, and it wasn't merely some deranged nut suddenly going off--it was premeditated, and it was for political reasons. But it seems a lot of people are trying to push that under the rug.
It was only downgraded on slashdot. In real life he has been charged with terrorism.
Does anyone here even read the summary together with the article itself and see if it makes sense? He did *not* say "do dumb things". That statement implies that you know its a dumb thing to do and it will not work, yet you do it anyway. In this case you *are* dumb and should be fired. He said "don't be afraid to do dumb things", which has a totally different meaning.
Actually if you read what you just wrote, it logically implies that you should expect to be fired and not be afraid of it. I don't think you should be giving anyone subtle lessons in logic.
Try all you like, you won't make a plough horse into a race horse.
Oh, you're one of those, "geniuses are special but secret people with a destiny and everyone needs to be handheld into brilliance just in case they're one of the chosen ones." I see that attitude as I see racism: an extremely simplistic understanding of human ability based on sense of privilege rather than an understanding of the value of smart learning and hard work.
Oh you're one of those presumptive condescending pratts that chooses to misunderstand what I said. I was not referring to geniuses being superior at all. Re-read it. Plough horse -> Race horse. NOT the other way around. As in people with social deficiencies, genius or not, do indeed have deficiencies that will always make them more socially awkward. At best you can minimise it.
But hey don't actually pay any attention to my actual argument. Please continue with your straw men and ad hominem. So much more skill required than say actually arguing the original point.
How long it would take for another genius to do the same would vary on a case by case basis. Perhaps within weeks, perhaps never.
Newton's discovery of the calculus was very much an evolutionary step above what had gone on earlier that century. Put in context of the relatively tiny population in C17, let alone the number of people given the opportunity for good education, it's not surprising that only two people were known to have come up with it at the time.
You're going to sit there at your keyboard and pretend it did not take something of a special mind to invent something at a rate that other intelligent people struggle to learn it? Really? What evolutionary step have you taken in your lifetime exactly? If it were commonplace and easy it wouldn't be 2 people on the planet inventing it at a time, it'd be a whole stream of mathematicians (and while the pool of educated people was smaller back then they often went further than those who study to bacherlor or masters level today).
Also if you do actually know your history you'll realise that Leibniz went no where near as far as Newton.
You take red blue pill and read some comics. Suddenly you start believing what you read and write silly articles about it. You take the blue pill and read some comics. Suddenly you start believing what you read and write silly articles about it.
Yes, but you're conflating "clever" and "genius level". Individuals who are clever are in great abundance and society would be much better off if they were cultivated into well-balanced individuals rather than being channeled into increasingly specialised, robotic tasks, alienating them from the wider civilisation which they're part of.
Try all you like, you won't make a plough horse into a race horse. You'll have to value these individuals for what they are, or not at all.
I think you overrate the contribution of the individual - even a dilettante of the history of science and mathematics will begin to observe that any apparent hero's output was in fact the culmination of the work of many others, often contemporary.
Not at all. Genius makes the actual intellectual leap even if all the pieces of the puzzle were there. How long it would take for another genius to do the same would vary on a case by case basis. Perhaps within weeks, perhaps never. It's relatively easy in hindsight to understand the work afterwards. I could probably teach a 7 year old a non-mathematical concept of Special Relativity. Many uni students grasp calculus, but only at about the same rate that Newton INVENTED it.
But it is true that geniuses should not be suppressed from making productive output. Fortunately, in the West, they aren't: any sufficiently healthy genius in the West has the opportunity to progress into academia and make a contribution.
That is at best a naive view of academia.
It's much more likely that, as hinted above, they will be seduced by businessmen - at least the financial types are honest about what they do, but "tech" corporations which output very little real scholarship are the worst. So, like I said, give the opportunity for everyone to live a well-rounded life which allows them to integrate into and understand society - if they wish to specialise, let them do so.
You can help someone fit in but like any other skill if they don't have that innate ability they'll never be good or natural at it. You may as well propose that we ignore them and become geniuses ourselves. It's not that simple.
What you're saying, very verbosely, is that most "nerds" are not very intelligent, just socially inept and obsessed with nerdy things. You have no argument with me on that. I also agree that It is true (but of little consequence) that in their later years they tend not to be productive and if recognised in their own lifetime let their achievements get to their head.
What I have a problem with is your statement that "the vast majority of clever people are fairly well-adjusted and are better off spending most of their childhood and even first couple of years at university enjoying themselves at sport, socialising and generally becoming well-connected before getting down to serious work in the final years". That is nonsense. Most genius level individuals are do their best work very young, are obsessed with it to the exclusion of everything else, and are not at all well adjusted. That may not be convenient but it is true.
The problem is that it is difficult for the world at large to know ahead of time if a nerd is just an idiot with no social abilities or a true genius. Dismiss nerds and you dismiss the handful of geniuses that will change the world.
Camp Watonka rates seem to start at $1200 a week for a 2 week camp. Damn! I can't imagine being able to save $4800 just to send my 2 kids off for 2 weeks, going up to $13800 for 8 weeks. I make a decent living but I'm not rich and that's extravagant by my standards. For $13800 I could take 2 months off and teach them heaps of cool stuff myself....or take my family on Safari!
There is this belief among nerds that nerd = intelligent. IME, the vast majority of clever people are fairly well-adjusted and are better off spending most of their childhood and even first couple of years at university enjoying themselves at sport, socialising and generally becoming well-connected before getting down to serious work in the final years. Meanwhile, the majority of nerds may possess above average intelligence but are rarely geniuses - for the usual mark of a genius is the ability to quickly analyse and adapt, and nerds' abilities are usually too narrow to manage that.
If you look at stereotypical scientists like Albert Einstein, Isaac Newton and the like, they were not well adjusted people. If you don't consider these guys geniuses you're in the minority. Being good at something (physics in this instance) doesn't automatically make you good at other things like social interaction, and often genius types consider it a waste of time to bother with petty social conventions.
They very well may; Oracle acquired hell about a year and a half ago.
They won't rot in hell. Hell comes with Oracle Enterprise edition. The Ksplice guys only have Oracle Standard Edition. But they don't want to let go of their existing licenses because the new licenses are sold on a per core rather than per machine basis and they can't afford that. Therefore they only get to go to purgatory, which comes bundled with Standard Edition..
We’ll continue to push speed and innovation—the driving forces behind Google Labs—across all our products, as the early launch of the Google+ field trial last month showed.
Who on earth needs to read a whole stack of marketing BS. They're doing a bad thing for short term profit. It's that simple. All the doubletalk is meaningless and only serves as a rationalisation or explanation for morons.
Hurd, DNF, Wine 1.0, Gmail out of beta, Windows running stable, grannies using Linux, video chat on handheld computers, movies commonly coming out in 3D, video games you don't play with your hands, electric cars on dealership lots, a US president who isn't a white guy...
We're in THE FUTURE. It just doesn't feel like it, because it's fuckin' lame.
That doesn't work and is self defeating. Professions like this already exist - parking inspector, debt collector, prostitute (in some places). Treating them like this only makes them turn to each other for companionship while they lose empathy for the rest of humanity who they see as scum that deserve everything they dish out. Meanwhile you might get sued if you overstep your bounds. Lose, lose. Nothing solved.
"It looks like you've been standing at this urinal for more than 10 seconds, would you like some information on swollen prostate drugs or some soothing sounds of water dripping?"
Clippy, is that you? I didn't want you on my screen and I sure as hell don't want you in the bathroom with me! Get out!
If you want to improve things for cyclists maybe you guys could obey the traffic laws for once instead of biking through stop signs and red lights?
When a bicyclist obeys the law, unfortunately nobody ever remembers it. How often do you remember a motorist who obeys the law?
I notice when people drive like maniacs. There are a lot more cars than bikes, yet motor and pedal bikes make up a third to a half (my estimate) of the bad behaviour I see. They duck and weave out of traffic, use the shoulder of the road and move between stopped cars regularly. It is exceedingly rare to see a bike stopped in traffic, despite this being the law.
Your suggestion sounds scarier than anything else I've read today. Last I checked you had the right to refuse medical examination under most circumstances. I'm sure the mother wouldn't be happy if the state had a right through some TSA doctor to give her daughter an internal pelvic exam.
ITs fair to say that Steve has earned his arrogance. Founded PC company, was ousted, invents a computer that the WEB WAS INVENTED ON. Comes back to company he founded with the design THE WEB WAS INVENTED ON, said design becomes a decade long OS foundation for the company. He BOUGHT WALT Disney Inc, with a studio he paid a pittance for from Lucas. Itunes, ipod, Ipad all complete revolutions in the marketplace. But yeah, he doesnt deserve his arrogance.
So now if a bloke has anything to do with a technology that someone then uses to innovate, he's the inventor?
Jobs is no technical genius. Wozniak is also dellusional and arrogant (He did not invent the PC!!!) but at least he really did have in depth understanding of technicalities.
NO ONE has a right to be arrogant, nor can that right be earnt. A rude self important idiot with many achievements to his name is still an idiot.
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Exactly who the fuck has 50GB in one source code tree?
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BMO
Those who store data, images, other binaries like built executables and other artifacts alongside the code.
You can argue that you shouldn't do that, but there are times when it's difficult to avoid, and if you need to be able to keep versions, it can be done easily with something like SVN.
I think GIT has it's advantages, but to reject all predcessors and raise it up as the only way to go is foolish.
Greek? You expect me to help translate Ptolemaic period shit?!?!? Do I *look* like Alexander the Fucking Great to you?
You want my help, you better throw down some hieroglyphs, bitch!
No problem habibi, cheap hieroglyphs for our bitch Anubis, only 15 pound habibi. Okay okay you drive hard bargain, we make it 10!
Whilst deindividuation is a recognised problem, I also believe the absence of non-verbal cues is a huge issue as well...Is it any wonder that tolerance is lacking?
No. It's a basic lack of manners. Individuals in the real world with a real world physical presence often have special needs but most of those needs are concealed or obfuscated by the internet anyway and few need to be accommodated. What is lacking here is basic manners and enough presence of mind to realize there's a real person on the other end.
Thankfully, we're not completely stupid, and we're starting to adapt to the problem. Hence my personal favourite phrase on the Internet: Don't feed the trolls.
Sorry but this is an idiotic meme. You might as well say "Let the bully win". The result I've seen is entire boards taken over by trolls with idiotic ideas (who are then revered as experts! Just what they crave!) My favourite way of expressing this is to Godwin the thread.
Note that I strongly disagree with you and used the word "idiotic", but at no time did I abuse you or call you an idiot. That's the other thing that's lacking. People think any disagreement with their pet idea is a personal attack and tend to respond with straw men, reductio and ad hominem fallacies, and schoolyard bullying. So few seem to be able to separate an attack on an idea with an attack on an individual anymore. Once the name calling starts, it takes great restraint on the other person's part not to retaliate...and as in real life it can escalate.
Found it. Thanks Wikipedia:
http://www.kevinislaughter.com/wp-content/uploads/2083+-+A+European+Declaration+of+Independence.pdf
In looking for this, I found a Right Wing blog arguing that he was motivated by the belief in Evolution, another blog arguing that he was a liberal Al Queda sypathizer, a liberal blog arguing that he would be a member of the Tea Party if he lived in America and all of them using this 1500 pages of batshit insanity to justify their positions.
The way the news is going on, I was expecting it to be a modified Call of Duty manual, but it doesn't even get a mention till page 900. There is some cosplay too. Clearly that should be banned as well. Also the writing of 1518 page documents. Clearly that is the devil's true number. Let's ban reading and writing too. They convey terrorist ideas every day!
Why is this being downgraded to a "massacre" now that we know the perpetrators aren't Muslim?
Call it what it was. It was a terrorist attack. That's a superset of massacre, and it wasn't merely some deranged nut suddenly going off--it was premeditated, and it was for political reasons. But it seems a lot of people are trying to push that under the rug.
It was only downgraded on slashdot. In real life he has been charged with terrorism.
Does anyone here even read the summary together with the article itself and see if it makes sense? He did *not* say "do dumb things". That statement implies that you know its a dumb thing to do and it will not work, yet you do it anyway. In this case you *are* dumb and should be fired. He said "don't be afraid to do dumb things", which has a totally different meaning.
Actually if you read what you just wrote, it logically implies that you should expect to be fired and not be afraid of it. I don't think you should be giving anyone subtle lessons in logic.
Try all you like, you won't make a plough horse into a race horse.
Oh, you're one of those, "geniuses are special but secret people with a destiny and everyone needs to be handheld into brilliance just in case they're one of the chosen ones." I see that attitude as I see racism: an extremely simplistic understanding of human ability based on sense of privilege rather than an understanding of the value of smart learning and hard work.
Oh you're one of those presumptive condescending pratts that chooses to misunderstand what I said. I was not referring to geniuses being superior at all. Re-read it. Plough horse -> Race horse. NOT the other way around. As in people with social deficiencies, genius or not, do indeed have deficiencies that will always make them more socially awkward. At best you can minimise it.
But hey don't actually pay any attention to my actual argument. Please continue with your straw men and ad hominem. So much more skill required than say actually arguing the original point.
How long it would take for another genius to do the same would vary on a case by case basis. Perhaps within weeks, perhaps never.
Newton's discovery of the calculus was very much an evolutionary step above what had gone on earlier that century. Put in context of the relatively tiny population in C17, let alone the number of people given the opportunity for good education, it's not surprising that only two people were known to have come up with it at the time.
You're going to sit there at your keyboard and pretend it did not take something of a special mind to invent something at a rate that other intelligent people struggle to learn it? Really? What evolutionary step have you taken in your lifetime exactly? If it were commonplace and easy it wouldn't be 2 people on the planet inventing it at a time, it'd be a whole stream of mathematicians (and while the pool of educated people was smaller back then they often went further than those who study to bacherlor or masters level today).
Also if you do actually know your history you'll realise that Leibniz went no where near as far as Newton.
...Or you could just troll as you have...
Terminator? Or the Matrix?
You take red blue pill and read some comics. Suddenly you start believing what you read and write silly articles about it.
You take the blue pill and read some comics. Suddenly you start believing what you read and write silly articles about it.
That's because they're both elicit drugs.
Yes, but you're conflating "clever" and "genius level". Individuals who are clever are in great abundance and society would be much better off if they were cultivated into well-balanced individuals rather than being channeled into increasingly specialised, robotic tasks, alienating them from the wider civilisation which they're part of.
Try all you like, you won't make a plough horse into a race horse. You'll have to value these individuals for what they are, or not at all.
I think you overrate the contribution of the individual - even a dilettante of the history of science and mathematics will begin to observe that any apparent hero's output was in fact the culmination of the work of many others, often contemporary.
Not at all. Genius makes the actual intellectual leap even if all the pieces of the puzzle were there. How long it would take for another genius to do the same would vary on a case by case basis. Perhaps within weeks, perhaps never. It's relatively easy in hindsight to understand the work afterwards. I could probably teach a 7 year old a non-mathematical concept of Special Relativity. Many uni students grasp calculus, but only at about the same rate that Newton INVENTED it.
But it is true that geniuses should not be suppressed from making productive output. Fortunately, in the West, they aren't: any sufficiently healthy genius in the West has the opportunity to progress into academia and make a contribution.
That is at best a naive view of academia.
It's much more likely that, as hinted above, they will be seduced by businessmen - at least the financial types are honest about what they do, but "tech" corporations which output very little real scholarship are the worst. So, like I said, give the opportunity for everyone to live a well-rounded life which allows them to integrate into and understand society - if they wish to specialise, let them do so.
You can help someone fit in but like any other skill if they don't have that innate ability they'll never be good or natural at it. You may as well propose that we ignore them and become geniuses ourselves. It's not that simple.
What you're saying, very verbosely, is that most "nerds" are not very intelligent, just socially inept and obsessed with nerdy things. You have no argument with me on that. I also agree that It is true (but of little consequence) that in their later years they tend not to be productive and if recognised in their own lifetime let their achievements get to their head.
What I have a problem with is your statement that "the vast majority of clever people are fairly well-adjusted and are better off spending most of their childhood and even first couple of years at university enjoying themselves at sport, socialising and generally becoming well-connected before getting down to serious work in the final years". That is nonsense. Most genius level individuals are do their best work very young, are obsessed with it to the exclusion of everything else, and are not at all well adjusted. That may not be convenient but it is true.
The problem is that it is difficult for the world at large to know ahead of time if a nerd is just an idiot with no social abilities or a true genius. Dismiss nerds and you dismiss the handful of geniuses that will change the world.
Camp Watonka rates seem to start at $1200 a week for a 2 week camp. Damn! I can't imagine being able to save $4800 just to send my 2 kids off for 2 weeks, going up to $13800 for 8 weeks. I make a decent living but I'm not rich and that's extravagant by my standards. For $13800 I could take 2 months off and teach them heaps of cool stuff myself....or take my family on Safari!
There is this belief among nerds that nerd = intelligent. IME, the vast majority of clever people are fairly well-adjusted and are better off spending most of their childhood and even first couple of years at university enjoying themselves at sport, socialising and generally becoming well-connected before getting down to serious work in the final years. Meanwhile, the majority of nerds may possess above average intelligence but are rarely geniuses - for the usual mark of a genius is the ability to quickly analyse and adapt, and nerds' abilities are usually too narrow to manage that.
If you look at stereotypical scientists like Albert Einstein, Isaac Newton and the like, they were not well adjusted people. If you don't consider these guys geniuses you're in the minority. Being good at something (physics in this instance) doesn't automatically make you good at other things like social interaction, and often genius types consider it a waste of time to bother with petty social conventions.
They very well may; Oracle acquired hell about a year and a half ago.
They won't rot in hell. Hell comes with Oracle Enterprise edition. The Ksplice guys only have Oracle Standard Edition. But they don't want to let go of their existing licenses because the new licenses are sold on a per core rather than per machine basis and they can't afford that. Therefore they only get to go to purgatory, which comes bundled with Standard Edition..
. . . is this:
We’ll continue to push speed and innovation—the driving forces behind Google Labs—across all our products, as the early launch of the Google+ field trial last month showed.
It's a lot faster just to read the orig.
Who on earth needs to read a whole stack of marketing BS. They're doing a bad thing for short term profit. It's that simple. All the doubletalk is meaningless and only serves as a rationalisation or explanation for morons.
Hurd, DNF, Wine 1.0, Gmail out of beta, Windows running stable, grannies using Linux, video chat on handheld computers, movies commonly coming out in 3D, video games you don't play with your hands, electric cars on dealership lots, a US president who isn't a white guy...
We're in THE FUTURE. It just doesn't feel like it, because it's fuckin' lame.
Where's my flying car you dirt bags!?
That doesn't work and is self defeating. Professions like this already exist - parking inspector, debt collector, prostitute (in some places). Treating them like this only makes them turn to each other for companionship while they lose empathy for the rest of humanity who they see as scum that deserve everything they dish out. Meanwhile you might get sued if you overstep your bounds. Lose, lose. Nothing solved.
Buy a router and put DDWRT on it (lots of advantages, certain routers well supported) then use one of the LAN ports as your WAN port
http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Dual_WAN
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:gIv7HeSGSCcJ:www.sbhacker.net/forum/index.php/topic/5903-dual-wan-guide-for-dd-wrt-routers/+tomato+dual+lan&cd=7&hl=en&ct=clnk&client=firefox-a&source=www.google.com
"It looks like you've been standing at this urinal for more than 10 seconds, would you like some information on swollen prostate drugs or some soothing sounds of water dripping?"
Clippy, is that you? I didn't want you on my screen and I sure as hell don't want you in the bathroom with me! Get out!
Sounds a lot like robocopygui if you ask me, only much more expensive.
New Zealand's south island had telegraph but doesn't have broadband? Me thinks this new map is incomplete!
Pah... Real men would use beer cans!
But then it wouldn't be the sound of diabetes coming to get you!
When a bicyclist obeys the law, unfortunately nobody ever remembers it. How often do you remember a motorist who obeys the law?
I notice when people drive like maniacs. There are a lot more cars than bikes, yet motor and pedal bikes make up a third to a half (my estimate) of the bad behaviour I see. They duck and weave out of traffic, use the shoulder of the road and move between stopped cars regularly. It is exceedingly rare to see a bike stopped in traffic, despite this being the law.
Your suggestion sounds scarier than anything else I've read today. Last I checked you had the right to refuse medical examination under most circumstances. I'm sure the mother wouldn't be happy if the state had a right through some TSA doctor to give her daughter an internal pelvic exam.
ITs fair to say that Steve has earned his arrogance. Founded PC company, was ousted, invents a computer that the WEB WAS INVENTED ON. Comes back to company he founded with the design THE WEB WAS INVENTED ON, said design becomes a decade long OS foundation for the company. He BOUGHT WALT Disney Inc, with a studio he paid a pittance for from Lucas. Itunes, ipod, Ipad all complete revolutions in the marketplace. But yeah, he doesnt deserve his arrogance.
So now if a bloke has anything to do with a technology that someone then uses to innovate, he's the inventor?
Jobs is no technical genius. Wozniak is also dellusional and arrogant (He did not invent the PC!!!) but at least he really did have in depth understanding of technicalities.
NO ONE has a right to be arrogant, nor can that right be earnt. A rude self important idiot with many achievements to his name is still an idiot.