I did read the article and what I was saying is that his melodramatic way of stating the freaking obvious is unimpressive.
If you put something in such a way its so easy to misconstrue while simultaneously trying to put yourself up as an nisightful guru you'd better expect intelligent people who aren't bamboozled to say "hang on a minute".
Take something more tangible like a car design. If you lumped destailed descriptions of all the blueprints for the individual components in a nicely bound document without any overall design schematic how hard would it be for anyone to get an overall picture of how the car would look and feel?
What if you asked your average customer to work out if they'd like the car based on these ideas?
This is very much like what you're asking business analysts and users to do if you provide a source code listing and nothing more. If I was in charge of a project, and that's what you handed me after I gave you business requirements, I'd seek to have you removed from the project.
Take something more tangible like a car design. If you lumped destailed descriptions of all the blueprints for the individual components in a nicely bound document without any overall design schematic how hard would it be for anyone to get an overall picture of how the car would look and feel?
What if you asked your average customer to work out if they'd like the car based on these ideas?
This is very much like what you're asking business analysts and users to do if you provide a source code listing and nothing more. If I was in charge of a project, and that's what you handed me after I gave you business requirements, I'd seek to have you removed from the project.
Does this sound a lot like "The Network is the Computer" to anyone?
Stop with the pseudo-clever melodramatic BS already.
Good code following the design is nothing new. Jumping straight into coding without a design document that the WHOLE team AND your clients/users can read however is insane.
I'm all for productive laziness but this is just plain BS.
I'm still running the last version of RedHat before this debacle occured, and when I can muster the effort will leave my many MANY years of RedHat behind in favour of Debian.
Dude that's kinda like saying "I'm sick of the servicing hassles and costs of my Ferrari, and it's getting old, so I think I'll make my next motor vehicle a shiny new tractor".
Debian's a very different distro to Redhat. You'll not find it as user friendly for starters, and it has bugs and a slow dev cycle. If you liked Redhat perhaps Mandrake would be more your kettle of fish.
Good morning and welcome Mr Gates. There are 309234 new items in your mailbox this morning. Here's your morning paper, your Big Breakfast (tm) and your Herpes pill.
Instead of having scattered efforts around 600 versions of Un*x operating systems (Linux distros and BSD) how about unifying that effort and having a sane number of distros that achieve some of the things Unix type operating systems have always been criticized for: Standard utilites/commands and proper portability between the variants.
At any one time there are one or two current Windows desktop OS's, 1 or 2 for server, 1 or 2 for Mac, but about 1000 very similar but different distributions for the open source Unix variants, and people wonder why it hasn't taken off on the desktop.
When the Wall came down, all the old cars in West Germany started to make their way to the East. Why not sell the Hubble to the Chinese or the Indians so they can get it serviced, and do some work with it, while the US gets a new one?
I can see the add. One slightly used space telescope. 20,000,000km on the odometer, but has had regular servicing. Some repairing manned space flight and EVAs required. $1billion ONO.
I am so sick of choosing leaders based on charisma instead of knowledge. I would rather have an ass who actually knows the issues even though that may slow the cause.
So you'd rather have most people be put off and use Windows instead of Linux? Eliteism will do little for Linux except kill it eventually.
A GOOD leader needs knowledge of the issues, charisma and other leadership skills if he's going to FURTHER your cause.
It doesn't benefit them. Its probably not tax deductible or something. If they gave away money at the drop of a hat like that, they'd never have become rich in the first place.
Well buy them and donate them or better yet buld the museum yourself.
Let me guess. You're the kind of fool that tells an end user who tries out Linux and has a problem that they should build a solution to the problem themselves, if one doesn't exist.
What use is putting original papers behind glass in a museum? You can't read them like that. The artifacts aren't nearly as important as the ideas, both from a historical perspective and a scientific one. Make sure copies are available for download on the net and that people know where to look for them instead.
Um wouldn't it depend on where you stand? Lets say there are 2 rooms in the house (say A and B) a number of meters apart.
If you're standing closer to room A (or in it), you need room A to be playing slightly ahead of room B, since sound from room A reaches you first (as it's nearer). If you're nearer room B its the opposite because room B is nearer. Since sound is relatively slow, the larger the distance between rooms the bigger the problem.
Honestly what you need to do is talk to a sound engineer that does concert work. I think you'll find to get aweet sound in more than one location you're going to need a setup that not only synchronizes the music but also manages the delays taking into account the accoustics of the rooms.
Much easier is to locate large speakers centrally in the house and crank them up loud enough to be heard through the house but not loud enough to disturb neighbours.
"know the good man is a dork, now. Let's pay some attention to his points instead; some of them may be worth listening to and even have some importance."
Having lost touch with reality generally lowers your credibility considerably. I've had the interesting experience of meeting RMS once. His coding prowess speaks for itself but the man has the social skills of a gnat.
If something is said he doesn't agree with he won't debate it, he'll deny it. (I was the only person dressed in a suit at a programmer's society meeting he did his little saint speil at, since I'd just come from work. I asked how you answer when someone says GNU/Linux is not user friendly. He simply denied the problem existed, and tried to make me feel stupid for asking it. In other words his solution to user support is the classic RTFM. In any case, to him I was obviously someone evil in a suit).
In short this is not a man you want speaking as the advocate for your favourite cause. All he'll do is put people off side and do more harm than good. I have little time for him as a speaker and feel he should go back to coding, which he's very good at.
Dark Helmet: I am your father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate. Lone Star: What does that make us? Dark Helmet: Absolutely nothing, which is what you are about to become.
You've hit the nail on the head. Lucas has a lot to live up to. Trouble is Eps I and II didn't do it, and Ep III isn't likely to. People want to see the new episodes living up to the originals and they just don't.
Why not build a writer into a printer. As it is these days all the new printers have trays for printing to printable CD/DVD. How much more effort would it be to build in a writer so you could write and print all in the one device?...and all with current technology.
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I did read the article and what I was saying is that his melodramatic way of stating the freaking obvious is unimpressive.
If you put something in such a way its so easy to misconstrue while simultaneously trying to put yourself up as an nisightful guru you'd better expect intelligent people who aren't bamboozled to say "hang on a minute".
Take something more tangible like a car design. If you lumped destailed descriptions of all the blueprints for the individual components in a nicely bound document without any overall design schematic how hard would it be for anyone to get an overall picture of how the car would look and feel?
What if you asked your average customer to work out if they'd like the car based on these ideas?
This is very much like what you're asking business analysts and users to do if you provide a source code listing and nothing more. If I was in charge of a project, and that's what you handed me after I gave you business requirements, I'd seek to have you removed from the project.
Take something more tangible like a car design. If you lumped destailed descriptions of all the blueprints for the individual components in a nicely bound document without any overall design schematic how hard would it be for anyone to get an overall picture of how the car would look and feel?
What if you asked your average customer to work out if they'd like the car based on these ideas?
This is very much like what you're asking business analysts and users to do if you provide a source code listing and nothing more. If I was in charge of a project, and that's what you handed me after I gave you business requirements, I'd seek to have you removed from the project.
Does this sound a lot like "The Network is the Computer" to anyone?
Stop with the pseudo-clever melodramatic BS already.
Good code following the design is nothing new. Jumping straight into coding without a design document that the WHOLE team AND your clients/users can read however is insane.
I'm all for productive laziness but this is just plain BS.
this isNot good
it isNot on
i isNot impressed @all
if (it isNot BS) then shivers
i isNot happy
I'm still running the last version of RedHat before this debacle occured, and when I can muster the effort will leave my many MANY years of RedHat behind in favour of Debian.
Dude that's kinda like saying "I'm sick of the servicing hassles and costs of my Ferrari, and it's getting old, so I think I'll make my next motor vehicle a shiny new tractor".
Debian's a very different distro to Redhat. You'll not find it as user friendly for starters, and it has bugs and a slow dev cycle. If you liked Redhat perhaps Mandrake would be more your kettle of fish.
Wow you must be using a very different version of Fedora Core 1 than the one I used. The one I tried left a lot to be desired.
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Good morning and welcome Mr Gates. There are 309234 new items in your mailbox this morning. Here's your morning paper, your Big Breakfast (tm) and your Herpes pill.
Who'd have thunk it!
....and much more
Due to years of gaming I'm a trained:
1)Fighter pilot
2)Martial artist
3)Combat magician
4)Medieval warrior
5)Soldier/Officer (of various ranks)
6)Genetic engineer
7)Astronaut
8)City Engineer/Town Planner
9)Medical administrator
10)Crime lab detective
11)Chess champion
I'd just like to thank God, and all those wonderful companies for all my training.
Couldn't resist.
Instead of having scattered efforts around 600 versions of Un*x operating systems (Linux distros and BSD) how about unifying that effort and having a sane number of distros that achieve some of the things Unix type operating systems have always been criticized for: Standard utilites/commands and proper portability between the variants.
At any one time there are one or two current Windows desktop OS's, 1 or 2 for server, 1 or 2 for Mac, but about 1000 very similar but different distributions for the open source Unix variants, and people wonder why it hasn't taken off on the desktop.
When the Wall came down, all the old cars in West Germany started to make their way to the East. Why not sell the Hubble to the Chinese or the Indians so they can get it serviced, and do some work with it, while the US gets a new one?
I can see the add. One slightly used space telescope. 20,000,000km on the odometer, but has had regular servicing. Some repairing manned space flight and EVAs required. $1billion ONO.
I am so sick of choosing leaders based on charisma instead of knowledge. I would rather have an ass who actually knows the issues even though that may slow the cause.
So you'd rather have most people be put off and use Windows instead of Linux? Eliteism will do little for Linux except kill it eventually.
A GOOD leader needs knowledge of the issues, charisma and other leadership skills if he's going to FURTHER your cause.
It doesn't benefit them. Its probably not tax deductible or something. If they gave away money at the drop of a hat like that, they'd never have become rich in the first place.
Well buy them and donate them or better yet buld the museum yourself.
Let me guess. You're the kind of fool that tells an end user who tries out Linux and has a problem that they should build a solution to the problem themselves, if one doesn't exist.
What use is putting original papers behind glass in a museum? You can't read them like that. The artifacts aren't nearly as important as the ideas, both from a historical perspective and a scientific one. Make sure copies are available for download on the net and that people know where to look for them instead.
Um wouldn't it depend on where you stand? Lets say there are 2 rooms in the house (say A and B) a number of meters apart.
If you're standing closer to room A (or in it), you need room A to be playing slightly ahead of room B, since sound from room A reaches you first (as it's nearer). If you're nearer room B its the opposite because room B is nearer. Since sound is relatively slow, the larger the distance between rooms the bigger the problem.
Honestly what you need to do is talk to a sound engineer that does concert work. I think you'll find to get aweet sound in more than one location you're going to need a setup that not only synchronizes the music but also manages the delays taking into account the accoustics of the rooms.
Much easier is to locate large speakers centrally in the house and crank them up loud enough to be heard through the house but not loud enough to disturb neighbours.
"know the good man is a dork, now. Let's pay some attention to his points instead; some of them may be worth listening to and even have some importance."
Having lost touch with reality generally lowers your credibility considerably. I've had the interesting experience of meeting RMS once. His coding prowess speaks for itself but the man has the social skills of a gnat.
If something is said he doesn't agree with he won't debate it, he'll deny it. (I was the only person dressed in a suit at a programmer's society meeting he did his little saint speil at, since I'd just come from work. I asked how you answer when someone says GNU/Linux is not user friendly. He simply denied the problem existed, and tried to make me feel stupid for asking it. In other words his solution to user support is the classic RTFM. In any case, to him I was obviously someone evil in a suit).
In short this is not a man you want speaking as the advocate for your favourite cause. All he'll do is put people off side and do more harm than good. I have little time for him as a speaker and feel he should go back to coding, which he's very good at.
we're going to see a new release every six months until they run out of cash.
Oh yeah, that's the sort of thing I want to read when I decide to use an OS enterprise wide: "...until they run out of cash".
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Dance Monkey Boy! Yeaaahhhhh! WOoooooooo!
Dark Helmet: I am your father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate.
Lone Star: What does that make us?
Dark Helmet: Absolutely nothing, which is what you are about to become.
You've hit the nail on the head. Lucas has a lot to live up to. Trouble is Eps I and II didn't do it, and Ep III isn't likely to. People want to see the new episodes living up to the originals and they just don't.
War! What is it good for?
Why not build a writer into a printer. As it is these days all the new printers have trays for printing to printable CD/DVD. How much more effort would it be to build in a writer so you could write and print all in the one device?...and all with current technology.