You weren't around for the protocol wars in the 80's, were you?
In the 80's I was too busy discovering what I could do with my body. Then I found out that computers where much more interesting, TCP/IP (i.e. post-war) and stuff. Then I got broadband and found a way to combine the two... That's my story. Love, not protocol wars.
Wonderful, another few years of communication incompatibilities until one winner emerges. The problem with computers is that we need monopolies.
Fighting against each other until only one surviver is left over isn't the only way to live. Cooperation is possible if the players do not assume that they have to kill all the other players to be successful. Strange concept, isn't it?
Universal standards would work in a perfect world, but you would need an authoritative government implementing them.
The internet didn't need a government to develop universal standards.
Ghostscript GSView is free software. Does the file work in that program?
The PDF works now in all my viewers under Linux (Acrobat Reader 5.0.7 and GSView 7.05). When I downloaded the file as the site was slashdotted I wasn't able to view the file with acroread-5.07, too. Seems the server failed somehow...
Were Shakespeare alive today, he would have a fairly good lawsuit against Disney for infringing on Hamlet.
No, he wouldn't be a) the copyright would have already expired
If Disney existed since Shakespeare's time, copyright would last 500 years after the death of the creator, now. Naturally that doesn't mean that Disney would pay a penny to the descendants of Shakespeare.
I vote to have it written in Brainfuck (http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/bf). A simpler language makes a program easier to read, right?
I wouldn't be surprised entirely if it turned out that sendmail was the first (and only) non-trivial program that could be expressed in brainfuck. I fact, I believe that sendmail.cf had been ported to brainfuck already.
This effort resulted in the execution of two license agreements during the April 30, 2003 quarter. [...] The Sun and Microsoft license agreements are non-exclusive, perpetual, paid up licenses to utilize the UNIX source code.
On July 31, 2003, Microsoft exercised an option to acquire expanded licensing rights. Upon delivery, we expect to recognize additional revenue related to this option.
On January 1, 2004, Microsoft lost its license somewhere in a heap of refunded Windows-95 boxes. Instead of trying to find the needle in the stack of hay, Microsoft exercised an option to buy the license once again.
Okay, answering my own question, Sun talks about Mad Hatter and it seems to be merely a Java front-end to StarOffice and misc other Office type programs.
A Java front-end to StarOffice? I think not.
As far as I understand it, Mad Hatter is more or less a SuSE spin-off that comes with a new Sun-theme and is bundled with StarOffice 7. At this time Sun puts the word "Java" in all their new products. This is just a brandig strategy like.NET
This is patently false. Going to Mars will teach us untold amounts of information about how planets are formed and the possibilities of extraterrestrial life formation.
Hey, I agree with that. I just don't think the general public will support this. So why do you think I'm trolling?
Establishing a permanent base on the Moon will allow a tremendous amount of important astronomy to be done, not to mention the potential for mining there (and collecting the vast amount of Helium-III available on the Moon's surface).
The costs of transport are extremly high. I don't think that mining on the moon would be cost-effective. But a permanent scientific base on the moon would be useful, indeed.
Re:SCO also filed their 10Q with the SEC yesterday
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Makes me want to reopen my non-IRA account specifically so I can short them.
I don't know... I would have shorted them when they stood at 16 and got sued by IBM. They took the nose-dive for a few days, and I never thought they would recover. Now they are standing at 20 and every time I hear devastating news for SCO they rise up and up. Judging from the past, I would not be surprised to see them rise up 25 or even more over the next months. There is someone manipulating the stock price and nobody knows when this will stop.
Sun offers legal protection covering desktop components like Staroffice against third party intellectual property claims that aren't available to companies sourcing their Linux desktops from the IBM/SuSe partnership or other players.
Now I understand why McBride stresses the notion that open source projects should protect its customers against legal prosecution. Sun is one of the two companies that bought a SCO license, you know...
it is possibly a quicker way to get to India to bring back spices.
That's funny. And it's true. If Columbus didn't have wrong ideas about the earth's dimensions he would have never discovered America. In fact he tricked himself into believing that it would be possible to reach India. If he were honest to the facts and to himself he would never have started the journey that revealed something that nobody could have known to be there. So maybe it is right to be slightly dishonest to yourself and to the never-believers when we preach the travel to the only space where we can still expect something we never expected.
The space program really does need some very visable goals. How about a manned Mars mission by 2015?
Won't happen. The space race occured in the 1960ies, when America feared to be overtaken by the Soviets. At this time many things were new and unproven: can humans reach outer space, can they live there for sustained periods, can they reach another celestial body, can they live there, etc. This was exciting and perfectly suited for TV. But the most important reason to do all this was the fear that the Soviets may gain military superiority.
Going to mars will not reveal exciting new facts about space to the general public. We went to the moon, we have done that. It will not do anything for preserving military superiority. We know by now that the military needs satellites and manned space travel is not of much use for this. So it just won't happen.
In my opinion, this sucks. The 21th century ain't what it used to be anymore.
If we abandon a great open source desktop environment because evil powers aquired a few percent of the company that makes the GPL'd toolkit on which it depends, then the terrorists have already won!
Did he actually wreck anything when was in there? He just added his name AFAIK...
The problem is that nobody knows for sure whether he broke something, so they have to check everything, wasting the money they should have spend for security before they where cracked. OTOH, when they get to know that they were wide open, they have to check it anyway. But it is a good thing to have a scapegoat.
Conclusion: if you see a gaping security hole, either look the other way or try to exploit the hole to make money. If you go to jail at least you know why.
This is a flawed analogy, playing on the psychological aspects of a home invasion.
A more proper analogy would be to arrive at work one day, and find a note on the floor saying that the lock was picked and how, and that it needs fixing.
Or a message wrapped around a stone that says that your window wasn't bulletproof and needs fixing.
Contrary to how many open source developers and advocates present themselves you are not born being an "open source". This is a choice you have made.
I think no one wanted to offend the black community, and I see your point.
But think about this: It is *not* my choice when someone lumps me together with other people who support free software only because I happen to support free software, too. I never consciously joined the club. Someone made the choice to put the SCO DDOSers and the people who are developing the linux kernel into the same category. So what? If one of these people I don't even know does something illegal I don't really feel responsible.
May I suggest that we just ignore this new troll from McBride?
It add nothing substantially new to the discussion.
The only thing McBride hopes to accomplish with this letter is to discredit the community once again. It makes no sense to dissect the letter and refute every false claim, because this will either be ignored or countered with more lies. Can we just stay calm and think of ways to get through to the few uninformed decision makers who believe the libel.
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You weren't around for the protocol wars in the 80's, were you?
In the 80's I was too busy discovering what I could do with my body. Then I found out that computers where much more interesting, TCP/IP (i.e. post-war) and stuff. Then I got broadband and found a way to combine the two... That's my story. Love, not protocol wars.
And who pays the scientists? Who payed for thier equipment?
Al Gore?
Who do you think created it?
Scientists?
Wonderful, another few years of communication incompatibilities until one winner emerges. The problem with computers is that we need monopolies.
Fighting against each other until only one surviver is left over isn't the only way to live. Cooperation is possible if the players do not assume that they have to kill all the other players to be successful. Strange concept, isn't it?
Universal standards would work in a perfect world, but you would need an authoritative government implementing them.
The internet didn't need a government to develop universal standards.
Servers do cost money... any ideas on how one could fund this?
By removing the users!
Ghostscript GSView is free software. Does the file work in that program?
The PDF works now in all my viewers under Linux (Acrobat Reader 5.0.7 and GSView 7.05). When I downloaded the file as the site was slashdotted I wasn't able to view the file with acroread-5.07, too. Seems the server failed somehow...
Come on, tell the truth. We all know that Shakespeare copied Hamlet out of SCO's System V source code.
Yes, but SysV was actually written by Francis Bacon, which is the stage name of Linus Torvalds! QED!
If Disney existed since Shakespeare's time, copyright would last 500 years after the death of the creator, now. Naturally that doesn't mean that Disney would pay a penny to the descendants of Shakespeare.
I vote to have it written in Brainfuck (http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/bf). A simpler language makes a program easier to read, right?
I wouldn't be surprised entirely if it turned out that sendmail was the first (and only) non-trivial program that could be expressed in brainfuck. I fact, I believe that sendmail.cf had been ported to brainfuck already.
IN COMMUNIST OPEN-SORES WORLD, Linux is broken and can't read file.
Acrobat Reader is proprietary software.
...for those whose browser doesn't handle backslashes.
What's up with this satanic sect that writes its slashes backwards?
This effort resulted in the execution of two license agreements during the April 30, 2003 quarter. [...] The Sun and Microsoft license agreements are non-exclusive, perpetual, paid up licenses to utilize the UNIX source code.
On July 31, 2003, Microsoft exercised an option to acquire expanded licensing rights. Upon delivery, we expect to recognize additional revenue related to this option.
On January 1, 2004, Microsoft lost its license somewhere in a heap of refunded Windows-95 boxes. Instead of trying to find the needle in the stack of hay, Microsoft exercised an option to buy the license once again.
Okay, answering my own question, Sun talks about Mad Hatter and it seems to be merely a Java front-end to StarOffice and misc other Office type programs.
.NET
A Java front-end to StarOffice? I think not.
As far as I understand it, Mad Hatter is more or less a SuSE spin-off that comes with a new Sun-theme and is bundled with StarOffice 7. At this time Sun puts the word "Java" in all their new products. This is just a brandig strategy like
This is patently false. Going to Mars will teach us untold amounts of information about how planets are formed and the possibilities of extraterrestrial life formation.
Hey, I agree with that. I just don't think the general public will support this. So why do you think I'm trolling?
Establishing a permanent base on the Moon will allow a tremendous amount of important astronomy to be done, not to mention the potential for mining there (and collecting the vast amount of Helium-III available on the Moon's surface).
The costs of transport are extremly high. I don't think that mining on the moon would be cost-effective. But a permanent scientific base on the moon would be useful, indeed.
Makes me want to reopen my non-IRA account specifically so I can short them.
I don't know... I would have shorted them when they stood at 16 and got sued by IBM. They took the nose-dive for a few days, and I never thought they would recover. Now they are standing at 20 and every time I hear devastating news for SCO they rise up and up. Judging from the past, I would not be surprised to see them rise up 25 or even more over the next months. There is someone manipulating the stock price and nobody knows when this will stop.
What is your favourite mis-interpretation of MCSE?
I'll vote for Microsoft Certified Software Engineer.
Sun offers legal protection covering desktop components like Staroffice against third party intellectual property claims that aren't available to companies sourcing their Linux desktops from the IBM/SuSe partnership or other players.
Now I understand why McBride stresses the notion that open source projects should protect its customers against legal prosecution. Sun is one of the two companies that bought a SCO license, you know...
it is possibly a quicker way to get to India to bring back spices.
That's funny. And it's true. If Columbus didn't have wrong ideas about the earth's dimensions he would have never discovered America. In fact he tricked himself into believing that it would be possible to reach India. If he were honest to the facts and to himself he would never have started the journey that revealed something that nobody could have known to be there. So maybe it is right to be slightly dishonest to yourself and to the never-believers when we preach the travel to the only space where we can still expect something we never expected.
Maybe it's not. But then live is boring anyway.
The space program really does need some very visable goals. How about a manned Mars mission by 2015?
Won't happen. The space race occured in the 1960ies, when America feared to be overtaken by the Soviets. At this time many things were new and unproven: can humans reach outer space, can they live there for sustained periods, can they reach another celestial body, can they live there, etc. This was exciting and perfectly suited for TV. But the most important reason to do all this was the fear that the Soviets may gain military superiority.
Going to mars will not reveal exciting new facts about space to the general public. We went to the moon, we have done that. It will not do anything for preserving military superiority. We know by now that the military needs satellites and manned space travel is not of much use for this. So it just won't happen.
In my opinion, this sucks. The 21th century ain't what it used to be anymore.
KDE is made by Trolltech, a Canopy Group company.
If we abandon a great open source desktop environment because evil powers aquired a few percent of the company that makes the GPL'd toolkit on which it depends, then the terrorists have already won!
Did he actually wreck anything when was in there? He just added his name AFAIK...
The problem is that nobody knows for sure whether he broke something, so they have to check everything, wasting the money they should have spend for security before they where cracked. OTOH, when they get to know that they were wide open, they have to check it anyway. But it is a good thing to have a scapegoat.
Conclusion: if you see a gaping security hole, either look the other way or try to exploit the hole to make money. If you go to jail at least you know why.
This is a flawed analogy, playing on the psychological aspects of a home invasion.
A more proper analogy would be to arrive at work one day, and find a note on the floor saying that the lock was picked and how, and that it needs fixing.
Or a message wrapped around a stone that says that your window wasn't bulletproof and needs fixing.
Contrary to how many open source developers and advocates present themselves you are not born being an "open source". This is a choice you have made.
I think no one wanted to offend the black community, and I see your point.
But think about this: It is *not* my choice when someone lumps me together with other people who support free software only because I happen to support free software, too. I never consciously joined the club. Someone made the choice to put the SCO DDOSers and the people who are developing the linux kernel into the same category. So what? If one of these people I don't even know does something illegal I don't really feel responsible.
May I suggest that we just ignore this new troll from McBride?
It add nothing substantially new to the discussion.
The only thing McBride hopes to accomplish with this letter is to discredit the community once again. It makes no sense to dissect the letter and refute every false claim, because this will either be ignored or countered with more lies. Can we just stay calm and think of ways to get through to the few uninformed decision makers who believe the libel.
So my cell phone digests. Will I have to take it out for a crap every moring?