Who said anything about 'fast internet'? Also is 1Mb/S 'fast'? It's not. I'm talking about everyone having access, not being excluded because greedy telecoms don't think they'll make enough profit to justify bringing it to a community.
Consider this: since when does anything, over time, cost *less*? It doesn't. All these 'streaming' services will over time cost more and more. Bet you cash money sooner than you like they'll all cost rivalling cable TV. Why? Because they can.
Why factor in internet cost? Because I have an antenna on my roof that's a one-time expense. I pay zero to watch TV. Sure, I don't care about what's only on streaming but you MUST have internet to use streaming so you have to consider the cost.
The 'crisis' is caused by telecom companies who won't invest unless there's profit to be made, and meanwhile they price-gouge everyone else.
Eventually if our civilization is to advance some things are going to have to be not-for-profit instead of squeezing people for every penny they can make, by hook or by crook. We see this mainly with healthcare; but since internet is still seen as 'optional' instead of 'a necessity' it doesn't loom as large in people's minds.
The healthcare industry was at one point in time not-for-profit, and that changed, leading us to the expensive mess we have today. If Internet is going to be considered 'essential' then perhaps it needs to be 'not for profit' as well -- and ubiquitos, instead of only where telecoms feel like installing it. Also municipalities should not ever be prohibited from providing access themselves.
You all thought 'cutting the cord' was going to save you money and get you what you want and only what you want? Look again: how many of you have to now get multiple subscriptions to multiple 'streaming services' to get all the entertainment you want? How close is that to what your cable bill was? Oh and don't forget to factor in how much your internet costs, too, counting your wireless bill if you use that as well. Is it now equal to or over what your cable bill was? If so then congratulations, you fell for it all hook line and sinker. Sucker!
They're not 'buying one of these' as if it's an accessory you pay extra for, Volvo is baking this right into the vehicle. So you're saying "don't buy a Volvo at all"? Gee whiz that makes all sorts of sense, AC (not). Do you ACs even think before you comment or is it all just knee-jerk? Here, let me spoon-feed you, dumb babby: Want a Volvo, buy a Volvo, oh noes, silly speed governor and silly 'distracted driving detector, what do? Oh I know, buy this gadget/service that disables all that silly crap! WIN! There was that so difficult to understand?
How about the fact that they serve as a 'gateway' to smoking tobacco? Or that they can contain nicotine, which is highly and intentionally addictive? Nicotine is naturally occurring in tobacco; in e-cig 'juice' they have to add it on purpose.
Gee whiz mister, any chance you're using an e-cig right now or vaping? Thought so. Effects of alcohol: KNOWN. Also, requires ID to show you're >=21 years of age to purchase. Effects of E-cigarrettes: NOT CURRENTLY KNOWN. Also, you only need to be 18 -- and 18 year olds are even dumber than 21 year olds.
There, was that so hard to understand? Also: There's already been studies showing that e-cigs and vaping serve as easy 'gateways' to smoking tobacco.
Maybe you'd get those panties of yours out of the bunch you've got them in and focus on your own personal problems instead?
Cost of telling retailers they can't sell e-cigs for the time being: essentially zero.
Cost of dealing with a long-standing and ever-worsening homelessness problem that results in a literal public health crisis: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$..$$$
'Many people' have been misled by the media and/or misled by technology companys' marketing departments, who have given them all a completely false science-fantasy impression of so-called 'artificial intelligence' in it's current form -- which is really not much better than what we had 20-30 years ago, it's just a bigger faster half-assed rendition of what was available then, because we have bigger, faster computers for so-called 'AI' run on. It can't 'think', it can't 'understand' anything really, and 'many people' are pretty gods-be-damned stupid if they'd trust it's output for anything as important as political policy decisions. I wouldn't at all be surprised if this group of 'many people' of which they speak are also the same group of 'many people' who voted our current half-assed excuse for a President into office, it'd sure explain a lot of things now wouldn't it?
You, also, are not wrong. It's a trap, we know it's a trap, but we go into it anyway, because we have no choice. If we don't do it, they will anyway, and suddenly there's no Balance Of Power, and we're at a disadvantage. Saying "if we stop all this nonsense then everyone else will too" is naive at best; they won't pass up having a military advantage over the U.S. or anyone else, and you can take that to the bank. 'Hearts and minds', friend; unless you have a Magic Wand that will change Hearts and Minds of all 7 billion people simultaneously, there are going to be governments out there in the world that will do anything to have an advantage over everyone else, and when you're talking about World Powers like China and still even Russia, if they think they can get an advantage that will allow them to dictate to everyone else, they'll do whatever it takes to accomplish that without a second thought.
You also are not completely wrong. The likelihood of success is not so great, but technology overall has improved since the 80's and they might at least get closer than they did with Star Wars 1.0.
You're not wrong. It's a trap. But it's one of those traps you know going in is a trap, but you go anyway. 'The only way to win is to not play' only works if everyone quits the game at the same time. 'Hearts and minds'.
No, you're just another piece-of-shit internet troll who thinks you're edgy and cool when in reality you're Unfunny, boring, and stupid. Go throw yourself into a woodchipper, you're more useful as mulch than you'll ever be as a human being.
Likelihood you're Just Another Internet Troll: HIGH.
Likelihood you're a Republican: HIGH.
Likelihood you're a Trump supporter: HIGH.
Likelihood you're fundamentalist Christian and science-hating: HIGH.
Likelihood I've already wasted more time on the likes of you: VERY HIGH.
Eat shit and die. Preferably before you've reproduced so no future generation of children are infected by your wilful ignorance (and likely authoritarian abuse), and thank whatever Powes-That-Be that you're not the one making the decisions for the rest of us, otherwise we really would all be doomed.
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Who said anything about 'fast internet'? Also is 1Mb/S 'fast'? It's not. I'm talking about everyone having access, not being excluded because greedy telecoms don't think they'll make enough profit to justify bringing it to a community.
Consider this: since when does anything, over time, cost *less*? It doesn't. All these 'streaming' services will over time cost more and more. Bet you cash money sooner than you like they'll all cost rivalling cable TV. Why? Because they can.
Why factor in internet cost? Because I have an antenna on my roof that's a one-time expense. I pay zero to watch TV. Sure, I don't care about what's only on streaming but you MUST have internet to use streaming so you have to consider the cost.
The 'crisis' is caused by telecom companies who won't invest unless there's profit to be made, and meanwhile they price-gouge everyone else.
Eventually if our civilization is to advance some things are going to have to be not-for-profit instead of squeezing people for every penny they can make, by hook or by crook. We see this mainly with healthcare; but since internet is still seen as 'optional' instead of 'a necessity' it doesn't loom as large in people's minds.
The healthcare industry was at one point in time not-for-profit, and that changed, leading us to the expensive mess we have today. If Internet is going to be considered 'essential' then perhaps it needs to be 'not for profit' as well -- and ubiquitos, instead of only where telecoms feel like installing it. Also municipalities should not ever be prohibited from providing access themselves.
You all thought 'cutting the cord' was going to save you money and get you what you want and only what you want? Look again: how many of you have to now get multiple subscriptions to multiple 'streaming services' to get all the entertainment you want? How close is that to what your cable bill was? Oh and don't forget to factor in how much your internet costs, too, counting your wireless bill if you use that as well. Is it now equal to or over what your cable bill was? If so then congratulations, you fell for it all hook line and sinker. Sucker!
It is what it is.
Yeah sure meanwhile they're marketing e-cigs and vaping to teenagers. Wake up idiot AC.
They're not 'buying one of these' as if it's an accessory you pay extra for, Volvo is baking this right into the vehicle. So you're saying "don't buy a Volvo at all"? Gee whiz that makes all sorts of sense, AC (not). Do you ACs even think before you comment or is it all just knee-jerk? Here, let me spoon-feed you, dumb babby: Want a Volvo, buy a Volvo, oh noes, silly speed governor and silly 'distracted driving detector, what do? Oh I know, buy this gadget/service that disables all that silly crap! WIN! There was that so difficult to understand?
How about the fact that they serve as a 'gateway' to smoking tobacco? Or that they can contain nicotine, which is highly and intentionally addictive? Nicotine is naturally occurring in tobacco; in e-cig 'juice' they have to add it on purpose.
If you'd bother thinking before commenting you'd probably understand the difference.
What's the matter, your tobacco industry investments going to lose a few pennies per share because of this or something? Calm the hell down.
Gee whiz mister, any chance you're using an e-cig right now or vaping? Thought so.
Effects of alcohol: KNOWN. Also, requires ID to show you're >=21 years of age to purchase.
Effects of E-cigarrettes: NOT CURRENTLY KNOWN. Also, you only need to be 18 -- and 18 year olds are even dumber than 21 year olds.
There, was that so hard to understand?
Also: There's already been studies showing that e-cigs and vaping serve as easy 'gateways' to smoking tobacco.
Maybe you'd get those panties of yours out of the bunch you've got them in and focus on your own personal problems instead?
Cost of telling retailers they can't sell e-cigs for the time being: essentially zero.
Cost of dealing with a long-standing and ever-worsening homelessness problem that results in a literal public health crisis: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$..$$$
'Many people' have been misled by the media and/or misled by technology companys' marketing departments, who have given them all a completely false science-fantasy impression of so-called 'artificial intelligence' in it's current form -- which is really not much better than what we had 20-30 years ago, it's just a bigger faster half-assed rendition of what was available then, because we have bigger, faster computers for so-called 'AI' run on. It can't 'think', it can't 'understand' anything really, and 'many people' are pretty gods-be-damned stupid if they'd trust it's output for anything as important as political policy decisions. I wouldn't at all be surprised if this group of 'many people' of which they speak are also the same group of 'many people' who voted our current half-assed excuse for a President into office, it'd sure explain a lot of things now wouldn't it?
..will be available from 3rd party companies almost immediately.
You, also, are not wrong. It's a trap, we know it's a trap, but we go into it anyway, because we have no choice. If we don't do it, they will anyway, and suddenly there's no Balance Of Power, and we're at a disadvantage. Saying "if we stop all this nonsense then everyone else will too" is naive at best; they won't pass up having a military advantage over the U.S. or anyone else, and you can take that to the bank. 'Hearts and minds', friend; unless you have a Magic Wand that will change Hearts and Minds of all 7 billion people simultaneously, there are going to be governments out there in the world that will do anything to have an advantage over everyone else, and when you're talking about World Powers like China and still even Russia, if they think they can get an advantage that will allow them to dictate to everyone else, they'll do whatever it takes to accomplish that without a second thought.
You also are not completely wrong. The likelihood of success is not so great, but technology overall has improved since the 80's and they might at least get closer than they did with Star Wars 1.0.
You're not wrong. It's a trap. But it's one of those traps you know going in is a trap, but you go anyway. 'The only way to win is to not play' only works if everyone quits the game at the same time. 'Hearts and minds'.
In my opinion, it's more like 'Soviet Union 2.0' than it is 'PRNK 2.0'. Putin does come from the Cold War era after all.
In other news: MySpace still exists in 2019? Unbelievable.
It may or may not be Tesla, but plug-in electric vehicles are the future of transportation, and fighting against it is pointless.
No. And, stop asking, it's a really dumb idea.
No, you're just another piece-of-shit internet troll who thinks you're edgy and cool when in reality you're Unfunny, boring, and stupid. Go throw yourself into a woodchipper, you're more useful as mulch than you'll ever be as a human being.
Likelihood you're Just Another Internet Troll: HIGH.
Likelihood you're a Republican: HIGH.
Likelihood you're a Trump supporter: HIGH.
Likelihood you're fundamentalist Christian and science-hating: HIGH.
Likelihood I've already wasted more time on the likes of you: VERY HIGH.
Eat shit and die. Preferably before you've reproduced so no future generation of children are infected by your wilful ignorance (and likely authoritarian abuse), and thank whatever Powes-That-Be that you're not the one making the decisions for the rest of us, otherwise we really would all be doomed.
Blow me.