WTF is that, some oblique accusation of a 'no true scottsman' fallacy?
We do not have true AI, we have 'expert systems' and 'learning algorithms' rebranded as 'AI' so they can sell the shit. IT DOES NOT ACTUALLY THINK. That's why it can't replace humans.
Having worked for a medical device company (device incorporated a computer running Windows; not my choice, man!) and having had to provide tech support for it, I can attest to the fact that despite doctors having 8+ years of schooling, they very often can be quite dumb especially when it comes to computers and operational security procedures. Seriously, when you have your device show back up at your company for service and it's got virii and/or malware installed on it because so-called 'medical professionals' were browsing the internet (porn) on it, you must conclude they weren't very smart. Then there's the time I get a call from a doctor from the operating room (no lie; I heard the beep.. beep.. beep.. of the patients' heart monitor) expecting me walk him through how to operate the device because he couldn't be bothered to learn how to do it beforehand. And some people wonder why I don't take everything doctors tell me as 'word of God'.
It's not like anything is safe anymore, unless it's literally offline storage -- and then only if you do a backup of your backup with a machine that's never connected to the Internet, ever. Better print out paper copies and copy those, too, just to be safe. At least until the criminal hacker organizations find a way to ransomware your paper copies, too.
On an associated subject: with all the advances being made with neural interfaces, how long do y'all think it'll be before they have ransomware for your wetware? "Nice memories you have there, friend; would be a shame if something.. happened to them.."
No, I'm openly calling you a troll. Or perhaps you're just a garden-variety idiot, or worse: an ultra-conservative/white supremacist/libertarian, or perhaps a Dominionist.
Monsanto being Umbrella Corporation is so Last Thursday, China is now the new hotness in being Umbrella Corporation! Look for a zombie apocalypse near you, in the next 10-20 years!
In all seriousness: enjoy your possible human-caused genetic diseases as you recklessly tinker with human DNA. Oh and by the way so far as I'm concerned if you create genetic diseases that are communicable, and it causes a pandemic? I vote for nuking your entire fucking country over it.
Seriously, at the rate we're going, we may not be around long enough for climate change to kill us. Guess we'll see if I'm right or wrong won't we?
Gee who gets to decide who can and can't vote? Southern states have been trying to pull shit like this for decades to prevent blacks and other minorites from being able to vote. Are you a racist? You're sure sounding like one.
they have to be EDUCATED enough to vote!
so then you gut the public school system, make sure blacks and the poor get a shit education, they don't pass the 'test' required to qualify to vote, and rich whites get to dictate their will to everyone else. Racist, elitist, bigoted. Fuck that. I'd rather have the mess we have now than live in a world where people are intentionally marginalized.
No, you have no idea what you're talking about, you think what you see in movies and TV is real -- it's NOT. None of this "thinks". There's nobody in there. It's just a bunch of decision trees and things like that. No actual cognition. It's just software, it is not a "mind".
deep learning neural networks which think like the human brain
That's not at all how they work because we don't even understand how our brains do that so how the hell can we make something artificial that does? You have no idea what you're talking about, you're living in a fantasy world.
And when you think they're dying in a ditch, they're breaking into your house and robbing and killing you so they can survive. Or starting a civil war. Because people do not just lay down and die because YOU want them to. And if you go around executing them like so much farm animals, you'll just make the civil war happen that miuch faster. Then when YOUR head is on a pole somewhere, THEY will be in charge -- and our civilization will be destroyed, and we'll have to start all over again from scratch. That's what your sort of thinking gets us.
We have to have a care for our own species, damnit! Otherwise WE ARE NOT CIVILIZED! So fuck off with this bullshit about 'leaving people to die in a ditch', you jackass.
The vast majority of people that comment on the internet on subjects like this have no idea how limited so-called "AI" actually is and therefore make uninformed comments like yours. Meanwhile I know people who have worked in the industry, had a conversation with some of them about this sort of thing yesterday, and they *know* how limited it really is, how it can't really be trusted 100%, therefore you must have human minds to 'mind' the AI. Otherwise you invite disaster.
You are right, and too many in this 'discussion' are living in a fantasy world. You put huge swaths of people out of work permanently, there will be crime, and there will be civil wars. It'd potentially destroy our entire civilization. Of course none of this will happen, new jobs that never existed before will just happen and people will have work. Happened before, will happen again. That's what all these myopians can't see.
To be fair about it: I'll lay 50% of the blame on 'social media' itself, and the other 50% on the people who flock to social media, the former for providing a platform with such a high potential for abuse, and the latter for abusing it in one way or another, or for catering to the social media-abusers. But this is not to say that 'social media' shouldn't just go the way of the dinosaurs.
Yeah sure thing buddy, because having The Rich decide everything for everyone else has worked so goddamned fucking well for people since the dawn of human civilization.
Power corrupts proportionally; absolute power corrupts absolutely
(the former) Soviet Union; Russia; China; North Korea; just to name a few. How well has that worked out for the Average Citizen, hmm? How about this: Go dig up and resurrect Marie Antoinette and ask her how well that seemed to work out, okay?
If you're so goddamned concerned about the so-called 'unwashed masses', then how about we get them better educational opportunities so they make (by your apparently skewed standards) more informed choices at the ballot box?
I can only speak for myself, though I know I'm far from alone when I say: I'd rather put up with the potential abuses to our system of government, than put up with The Few enforcing their will on The Many.
Oh and yes by the way I am mad and I am ranting because your comment pissed me off. Deal with it.
All the people who control the majority of the wealth have it all safely tucked away in offshore accounts that nobody is going to hack into (if not for reasons of technical insufficiency, then for reasons of knowing damned well they'll be found dead within 24 hours if they even try), and they don't give a damn about all of us peasants, the government, or anything else, so of course why should they care?
Hey what a great idea! While we're at it, can we vote on making 'Pi' exactly 3? All those pesky decimals are just too hard to deal with and really don't matter anyway.
The one piece of Windows-only software I'd like to run, sadly, requires Java, and WINE still doesn't, apparently, allow you to install Java under it. Guess I'll just have to try Windows XP in a virtual machine.
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WTF is that, some oblique accusation of a 'no true scottsman' fallacy?
We do not have true AI, we have 'expert systems' and 'learning algorithms' rebranded as 'AI' so they can sell the shit. IT DOES NOT ACTUALLY THINK. That's why it can't replace humans.
Having worked for a medical device company (device incorporated a computer running Windows; not my choice, man!) and having had to provide tech support for it, I can attest to the fact that despite doctors having 8+ years of schooling, they very often can be quite dumb especially when it comes to computers and operational security procedures. Seriously, when you have your device show back up at your company for service and it's got virii and/or malware installed on it because so-called 'medical professionals' were browsing the internet (porn) on it, you must conclude they weren't very smart. Then there's the time I get a call from a doctor from the operating room (no lie; I heard the beep.. beep.. beep.. of the patients' heart monitor) expecting me walk him through how to operate the device because he couldn't be bothered to learn how to do it beforehand. And some people wonder why I don't take everything doctors tell me as 'word of God'.
You can encrypt it to the Nth degree and it means nothing if some ransomware re-encypts it, or other malware destroys it. And the backups.
It's not like anything is safe anymore, unless it's literally offline storage -- and then only if you do a backup of your backup with a machine that's never connected to the Internet, ever. Better print out paper copies and copy those, too, just to be safe. At least until the criminal hacker organizations find a way to ransomware your paper copies, too.
On an associated subject: with all the advances being made with neural interfaces, how long do y'all think it'll be before they have ransomware for your wetware? "Nice memories you have there, friend; would be a shame if something.. happened to them.."
No, I'm openly calling you a troll. Or perhaps you're just a garden-variety idiot, or worse: an ultra-conservative/white supremacist/libertarian, or perhaps a Dominionist.
Monsanto being Umbrella Corporation is so Last Thursday, China is now the new hotness in being Umbrella Corporation! Look for a zombie apocalypse near you, in the next 10-20 years!
In all seriousness: enjoy your possible human-caused genetic diseases as you recklessly tinker with human DNA. Oh and by the way so far as I'm concerned if you create genetic diseases that are communicable, and it causes a pandemic? I vote for nuking your entire fucking country over it.
Seriously, at the rate we're going, we may not be around long enough for climate change to kill us. Guess we'll see if I'm right or wrong won't we?
You're not for real. Trollololol.
they have to be EDUCATED enough to vote!
so then you gut the public school system, make sure blacks and the poor get a shit education, they don't pass the 'test' required to qualify to vote, and rich whites get to dictate their will to everyone else. Racist, elitist, bigoted. Fuck that. I'd rather have the mess we have now than live in a world where people are intentionally marginalized.
Confirmed for troll. Bugger off.
No, you have no idea what you're talking about, you think what you see in movies and TV is real -- it's NOT. None of this "thinks". There's nobody in there. It's just a bunch of decision trees and things like that. No actual cognition. It's just software, it is not a "mind".
deep learning neural networks which think like the human brain
That's not at all how they work because we don't even understand how our brains do that so how the hell can we make something artificial that does? You have no idea what you're talking about, you're living in a fantasy world.
And when you think they're dying in a ditch, they're breaking into your house and robbing and killing you so they can survive. Or starting a civil war. Because people do not just lay down and die because YOU want them to. And if you go around executing them like so much farm animals, you'll just make the civil war happen that miuch faster. Then when YOUR head is on a pole somewhere, THEY will be in charge -- and our civilization will be destroyed, and we'll have to start all over again from scratch. That's what your sort of thinking gets us.
We have to have a care for our own species, damnit! Otherwise WE ARE NOT CIVILIZED! So fuck off with this bullshit about 'leaving people to die in a ditch', you jackass.
The vast majority of people that comment on the internet on subjects like this have no idea how limited so-called "AI" actually is and therefore make uninformed comments like yours. Meanwhile I know people who have worked in the industry, had a conversation with some of them about this sort of thing yesterday, and they *know* how limited it really is, how it can't really be trusted 100%, therefore you must have human minds to 'mind' the AI. Otherwise you invite disaster.
You are right, and too many in this 'discussion' are living in a fantasy world. You put huge swaths of people out of work permanently, there will be crime, and there will be civil wars. It'd potentially destroy our entire civilization. Of course none of this will happen, new jobs that never existed before will just happen and people will have work. Happened before, will happen again. That's what all these myopians can't see.
You're living in a fantasy world.
AI will also be coming for our jobs too
No, it won't. You are a fool.
Jobs are going to disappear to robots
No, they're not. This is what fools actually believe.
To be fair about it: I'll lay 50% of the blame on 'social media' itself, and the other 50% on the people who flock to social media, the former for providing a platform with such a high potential for abuse, and the latter for abusing it in one way or another, or for catering to the social media-abusers. But this is not to say that 'social media' shouldn't just go the way of the dinosaurs.
Elitism
Aristocratism
Yeah sure thing buddy, because having The Rich decide everything for everyone else has worked so goddamned fucking well for people since the dawn of human civilization.
Power corrupts proportionally; absolute power corrupts absolutely
(the former) Soviet Union; Russia; China; North Korea; just to name a few. How well has that worked out for the Average Citizen, hmm? How about this: Go dig up and resurrect Marie Antoinette and ask her how well that seemed to work out, okay?
If you're so goddamned concerned about the so-called 'unwashed masses', then how about we get them better educational opportunities so they make (by your apparently skewed standards) more informed choices at the ballot box?
I can only speak for myself, though I know I'm far from alone when I say: I'd rather put up with the potential abuses to our system of government, than put up with The Few enforcing their will on The Many.
Oh and yes by the way I am mad and I am ranting because your comment pissed me off. Deal with it.
Due to massive thefts.
Don't you just love sarcasm? :-)
All the people who control the majority of the wealth have it all safely tucked away in offshore accounts that nobody is going to hack into (if not for reasons of technical insufficiency, then for reasons of knowing damned well they'll be found dead within 24 hours if they even try), and they don't give a damn about all of us peasants, the government, or anything else, so of course why should they care?
Hey what a great idea! While we're at it, can we vote on making 'Pi' exactly 3? All those pesky decimals are just too hard to deal with and really don't matter anyway.
Just rate them all as ZERO, and non-news agencies as "-1".
The one piece of Windows-only software I'd like to run, sadly, requires Java, and WINE still doesn't, apparently, allow you to install Java under it. Guess I'll just have to try Windows XP in a virtual machine.