"Negative conservative views" my ass, fucker, you apparently don't know shit. "Conservatives" don't want to feed the poor or take care of the homeless, they want to just dump them somewhere they don't have to look at them, and meanwhile gentrify everything so 'The Poor' can't afford any of it and become more homeless -- so they can just dump them somewhere they can't be seen, too. So you don't know shit about 'conservatism' and should STFU about that.
Now, going to the Moon wasn't about advancing technology, it was purely political, to beat Russia there, to bolster world opinion of the United States. Any technology that came from that was mere happenstance and would have eventually happened anyway. Also, going to the Moon, staying a little while, then coming back to Earth, is nothing even close to having entire self-sustaining permanent colonies in our solar system, so you don't know shit about the Moon missions either and should STFU about that, too.
Finally, GPS technology was developed for the military and had nothing to do with NASA. Genetic engineering is completely out of left field and has nothing to do with anything.
So, you see: you're completely full of shit, don't know a damn thing, and are just posting textual diarrhea instead of actual useful content. My rating of your comment: "-1 Troll". You may now bugger off.
..no, communism and socialism as methods of government work wonderfully on paper, but fail to acknowledge one sadly immutable fact: human greed and lust for power. Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely, and power-seekers always seek more power. It's all about control. Communist and socialist governments put too much power in the hands of too few people, and they can't handle it. Monarchies have the same problem but at least with monarchies there is the chance that the next hereditary ruler is raised to be responsible and thoughtful of the people they're going to rule. When you have any system of governance that involves someone seizing power by force (of one type or another; doesn't have to be physical or military force) it's highly more likely that they're going to turn into a dictatorial authoritarian autocratic asshole. Look at the communist Chinese government: they treat the common citizens like shit just to maintain power. Now they've got a gods-be-damned Emperor (for all intents and purposes) and only death will get rid of him. Seriously I feel bad for the Chinese people, almost as bad as I feel for North Koreans, and (to a certain extent, ally or not) South Koreans. There's even one South Asian country (whose name escapes me) where merely criticizing the King gets you jailed, and maybe even killed. If you live here in the West, how crazy does that sound? Make a joke about the King, maybe be executed for it? WTF?
We're at just about 7 billion, and we can't even get along, and we're nowhere near having permanent colonies anywhere else in our own planetary system -- nor are we even close to 100% sure that we can safely exist in colonies off Earth for entire lifetimes, let alone reproduce successfully there, and still be healthy. Aside from the technical challenges there's also vast uncertainty as to whether or not we've sabotaged our own ecosphere to the point where we can't depend on being able to live in it for the long term (meaning: at least the next 1000 years). In the meantime we still wage war against our own kind, and that's just going to get worse as resouces and land you can live on becomes more scare, and wars are huge wasters of resources as well as lives. People like this Jeff Bezos don't seem to be living in reality, he's got some high-minded ideas that are more science fiction than they are science fact, and that seem to ignore the human part of the equation. Even if what he says becomes reality, our entire socio-political paradigm will have to drastically change in order for 1 trillion humans to all get along and reach any sort of consensus on anything, even if they're not living on the same planet. Unless there is a dramatic leap forward in our own evolution as a species I can see us waging war in our own solar system -- can you say 'bombard from orbit'? Would make nuclear weapons seem like amateur night by comparison. My recommendation to Mister Bezos? Let's work on not wrecking the Earth, and also not wrecking ourselves, as a species, then maybe we can think about colonizing our solar system. Horse before the cart, please.
If you look to primates you'll see that pattern is consistent, and humans aren't really all that different. Morality is something society imposes on us, not a hardwired inherent trait, and when you put people under enough pressure so they're stressed you then discover Who They Really Are; when times are good and there's plenty for everyone, it's easy for people to be Nice and Good and Generous; when things get desperate, that all goes out the window for many people. Seeing people when they're drunk is almost as good for revealing someone's true nature, it shuts down so many of the filters society imposes.
2018: Voluntarily giving up literally the most personal data about yourself you can possibly give anyone.
Zero guarantees it doesn't end up in a Government or Law Enforcement database, or at the very least bought up by the likes of insurance companies, so they can find some excuse to jack up your rates or flat-out deny you coverage.
The human species, having no natural predators, preys on itself -- and is in the process of creating it's own menu of extinction-level events to cull it's own numbers. Ever notice how the Universe seems to run on things being balanced, naturally, in closed-loop systems? We're creating our own negative feedback. Coin-flip as to whether or not Earth remains habitable after sufficient numbers of humans die off.
(..and yes, I'm in a cynical mood this morning for some reason, why do you ask?)
Just. Wow, Google. You're up there in the Big Leagues now, Google, right alongside R.J. Reynolds, Monsanto, and Mylan.
You have to admit, it's an impressive amount of internal mental hacking necessary to compartmentalize your own ethics, morals, and values, so you can reap as much profit as possible, regardless of the consequences to everyone else. I can't imagine being able to do that. I will admit that I've thought more than once that the only thing standing between me and being wealthy, is this pesky 'conscience' I've got. Well done, Google, well done.
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(included for the clueless who don't understand)
Just as likely this is part of an overall strategy to make ownership of a vehicle unattractive, placing barriers in the way of it being practical. Which is part of a more wide-reaching movement towards discouraging regular (i.e. not The Rich) people from ownership of just about anything, substituting 'rental' or 'monthly service. Make vehicles 'lease' only, and part of the legal contract is that you're required to pay an authorized dealership service department for service.
Trump takes credit for all sorts of things he has literally nothing to do with. For instance lately he took credit for the economy recovering and the record low unemployment figures, neither of which he has done anything to affect, it takes literally years and years for changes made to affect things like that. It's more 8 years of Obama that we're seeing the effects of now, not 2 years of pussy-grabber.
"rights holders"
You're right there, the game for decades has been to swindle actual creators out of the rights to their own creations. Even people who self-produce, self-publish, and self-distribute, unless they're damned careful (and even then) get their own IP ripped out from under them. Don't even bother trying to produce something and place it in the public domain, the same thing will happen, some company will 'claim' it and you'll have no rights whatsoever to your own creation.
Well then they give people like you and me an incentive to pirate music more, then they'll cry and whine about piracy, lobby and legislate tougher laws with more draconic penalties for pirating music (the definition of 'piracy' includes 'sharing' with people you know, by the way, even if money never changes hands), and they'll start kicking in more doors and confiscating more computers, arresting, trying, convicting, and incarcerating 'music pirates', who they'll then put in the ever-more-privatized prison system, where we'll all be sent for years and years to work as slave labor and be treated like we're serial murderers, denied proper medical care, and so on. The corporations, private prisons, and government will split the profits from our slave labor.
None of that means shit until they have AI that can actually think, and we won't have that until we figure out how our brains do that. You can hope and dream all you want and it won't change that fact. They're shit and they'll continue to be shit because it's the wrong approach.
You think I don't know all that? More of these religious types not only don't believe in climate change, they want the Apocalypse to come, because they fervently believe Zombie Jesus will come down from Heaven to take them all back there with him, and they're making as many babies as they possibly can because they believe those 'souls' need to be born in order to be saved; this is the mentality we're fighting against, which is why I hate religion so much. One way or another the human species is going to become the author of it's own extinction-level event, either through human-caused climate change, war, or stupid bullshit like this, sabotaging everyones' health. The only thing that keeps me from offing myself here and now is that I know I'll at least be able to live out the rest of my natural life in relative comfort and safety, and still have a little fun, and all this bullshit my species is perpetrating on itself won't happen for a few generations after I'm dead.
None of this matters. So-called 'self driving cars' still have no capacity to actually think, and so-called 'deep learning algorithms' and so on are not a substitute for actual cognition. I still maintain that these are being rushed to market as fast as they possibly can with the only real goal in mind being to start getting ROI as fast as possible, and their legal departments have assured them that the financial risk of settling lawsuits out of court is acceptable compared to not pushing these out the door as soon as they possibly can. Sadly there will be accidents and deaths before they're banned from public roads, and even then they'll try to lobby and bribe legislators into letting them continue anyway. In the end these will be a massive failure because the 'technology' is not adequate and never will be, no matter how much 'training' you download into it.
No idea really what I'm talking about here, but what it sounds like to me is that it could have been way worse. They were at second stage separation and ignition, right? So they were well away from the launch area, but not so close to leaving the atmosphere. I'd say if there's a time the launch vehicle is going to fail on you, that's probably the best time, you can return to Earth relatively safely, not having to worry about an uncontrolled re-entry or being at too low an altitude for any parachutes to deploy properly. Also, the engine(s) either shut down on their own, or were shut down in a controlled manner safely, either of which is a hell of a lot better than having them explode on you. As for the rest, I guess what pilots have always said applies here: any landing you can walk away from is a good landing. An expensive failure to be sure, but nobody died.
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"Negative conservative views" my ass, fucker, you apparently don't know shit. "Conservatives" don't want to feed the poor or take care of the homeless, they want to just dump them somewhere they don't have to look at them, and meanwhile gentrify everything so 'The Poor' can't afford any of it and become more homeless -- so they can just dump them somewhere they can't be seen, too. So you don't know shit about 'conservatism' and should STFU about that.
Now, going to the Moon wasn't about advancing technology, it was purely political, to beat Russia there, to bolster world opinion of the United States. Any technology that came from that was mere happenstance and would have eventually happened anyway. Also, going to the Moon, staying a little while, then coming back to Earth, is nothing even close to having entire self-sustaining permanent colonies in our solar system, so you don't know shit about the Moon missions either and should STFU about that, too.
Finally, GPS technology was developed for the military and had nothing to do with NASA. Genetic engineering is completely out of left field and has nothing to do with anything.
So, you see: you're completely full of shit, don't know a damn thing, and are just posting textual diarrhea instead of actual useful content.
My rating of your comment: "-1 Troll". You may now bugger off.
..no, communism and socialism as methods of government work wonderfully on paper, but fail to acknowledge one sadly immutable fact: human greed and lust for power. Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely, and power-seekers always seek more power. It's all about control. Communist and socialist governments put too much power in the hands of too few people, and they can't handle it. Monarchies have the same problem but at least with monarchies there is the chance that the next hereditary ruler is raised to be responsible and thoughtful of the people they're going to rule. When you have any system of governance that involves someone seizing power by force (of one type or another; doesn't have to be physical or military force) it's highly more likely that they're going to turn into a dictatorial authoritarian autocratic asshole. Look at the communist Chinese government: they treat the common citizens like shit just to maintain power. Now they've got a gods-be-damned Emperor (for all intents and purposes) and only death will get rid of him. Seriously I feel bad for the Chinese people, almost as bad as I feel for North Koreans, and (to a certain extent, ally or not) South Koreans. There's even one South Asian country (whose name escapes me) where merely criticizing the King gets you jailed, and maybe even killed. If you live here in the West, how crazy does that sound? Make a joke about the King, maybe be executed for it? WTF?
We're at just about 7 billion, and we can't even get along, and we're nowhere near having permanent colonies anywhere else in our own planetary system -- nor are we even close to 100% sure that we can safely exist in colonies off Earth for entire lifetimes, let alone reproduce successfully there, and still be healthy. Aside from the technical challenges there's also vast uncertainty as to whether or not we've sabotaged our own ecosphere to the point where we can't depend on being able to live in it for the long term (meaning: at least the next 1000 years). In the meantime we still wage war against our own kind, and that's just going to get worse as resouces and land you can live on becomes more scare, and wars are huge wasters of resources as well as lives. People like this Jeff Bezos don't seem to be living in reality, he's got some high-minded ideas that are more science fiction than they are science fact, and that seem to ignore the human part of the equation. Even if what he says becomes reality, our entire socio-political paradigm will have to drastically change in order for 1 trillion humans to all get along and reach any sort of consensus on anything, even if they're not living on the same planet. Unless there is a dramatic leap forward in our own evolution as a species I can see us waging war in our own solar system -- can you say 'bombard from orbit'? Would make nuclear weapons seem like amateur night by comparison. My recommendation to Mister Bezos? Let's work on not wrecking the Earth, and also not wrecking ourselves, as a species, then maybe we can think about colonizing our solar system. Horse before the cart, please.
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Talking about it is where 'advocating for laws' begins. So don't lecture me.
If you look to primates you'll see that pattern is consistent, and humans aren't really all that different. Morality is something society imposes on us, not a hardwired inherent trait, and when you put people under enough pressure so they're stressed you then discover Who They Really Are; when times are good and there's plenty for everyone, it's easy for people to be Nice and Good and Generous; when things get desperate, that all goes out the window for many people. Seeing people when they're drunk is almost as good for revealing someone's true nature, it shuts down so many of the filters society imposes.
You don't. It's about as credible at this point in time as someone who has the title 'Xenobiologist'.
Zero guarantees it doesn't end up in a Government or Law Enforcement database, or at the very least bought up by the likes of insurance companies, so they can find some excuse to jack up your rates or flat-out deny you coverage.
Also, reminder:
GATTACA
Don't fall for it, folks.
We don't need 'Internet of Things', it's a solution looking for a problem, always has been, always will be.
Finally, someone with some actual cred who gets it. UBI is bullshit, a complete fantasy. Don't fall for it, lads.
The human species, having no natural predators, preys on itself -- and is in the process of creating it's own menu of extinction-level events to cull it's own numbers. Ever notice how the Universe seems to run on things being balanced, naturally, in closed-loop systems? We're creating our own negative feedback. Coin-flip as to whether or not Earth remains habitable after sufficient numbers of humans die off.
(..and yes, I'm in a cynical mood this morning for some reason, why do you ask?)
..but the sysadmin they deserve?
Regardless, I approve of this. Bravo, Sir.
Rationalizing like the damned (that they are)
Just. Wow, Google. You're up there in the Big Leagues now, Google, right alongside R.J. Reynolds, Monsanto, and Mylan.
You have to admit, it's an impressive amount of internal mental hacking necessary to compartmentalize your own ethics, morals, and values, so you can reap as much profit as possible, regardless of the consequences to everyone else. I can't imagine being able to do that. I will admit that I've thought more than once that the only thing standing between me and being wealthy, is this pesky 'conscience' I've got. Well done, Google, well done.
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(included for the clueless who don't understand)
Just as likely this is part of an overall strategy to make ownership of a vehicle unattractive, placing barriers in the way of it being practical. Which is part of a more wide-reaching movement towards discouraging regular (i.e. not The Rich) people from ownership of just about anything, substituting 'rental' or 'monthly service. Make vehicles 'lease' only, and part of the legal contract is that you're required to pay an authorized dealership service department for service.
blah blah blah HILLARY blah blah blah OBAMA blah blah blah DEMOCRATS blah blah blah
You idiots are like a broken record. Eat a bag of dicks.
Trollololol.
Trump takes credit for all sorts of things he has literally nothing to do with. For instance lately he took credit for the economy recovering and the record low unemployment figures, neither of which he has done anything to affect, it takes literally years and years for changes made to affect things like that. It's more 8 years of Obama that we're seeing the effects of now, not 2 years of pussy-grabber.
"rights holders"
You're right there, the game for decades has been to swindle actual creators out of the rights to their own creations. Even people who self-produce, self-publish, and self-distribute, unless they're damned careful (and even then) get their own IP ripped out from under them. Don't even bother trying to produce something and place it in the public domain, the same thing will happen, some company will 'claim' it and you'll have no rights whatsoever to your own creation.
Well then they give people like you and me an incentive to pirate music more, then they'll cry and whine about piracy, lobby and legislate tougher laws with more draconic penalties for pirating music (the definition of 'piracy' includes 'sharing' with people you know, by the way, even if money never changes hands), and they'll start kicking in more doors and confiscating more computers, arresting, trying, convicting, and incarcerating 'music pirates', who they'll then put in the ever-more-privatized prison system, where we'll all be sent for years and years to work as slave labor and be treated like we're serial murderers, denied proper medical care, and so on. The corporations, private prisons, and government will split the profits from our slave labor.
You have no idea what you're talking about and may live to regret it.
Humans are not evolved to be vegetarians. PERIOD. You cannot refute this not matter how many paragraphs you vomit all over your keyboard.
None of that means shit until they have AI that can actually think, and we won't have that until we figure out how our brains do that. You can hope and dream all you want and it won't change that fact. They're shit and they'll continue to be shit because it's the wrong approach.
We need to stop eating meat.
I disagree and will continue to disagree, and I have fact-based reasons to back my opinions up.</thread>
You think I don't know all that? More of these religious types not only don't believe in climate change, they want the Apocalypse to come, because they fervently believe Zombie Jesus will come down from Heaven to take them all back there with him, and they're making as many babies as they possibly can because they believe those 'souls' need to be born in order to be saved; this is the mentality we're fighting against, which is why I hate religion so much. One way or another the human species is going to become the author of it's own extinction-level event, either through human-caused climate change, war, or stupid bullshit like this, sabotaging everyones' health. The only thing that keeps me from offing myself here and now is that I know I'll at least be able to live out the rest of my natural life in relative comfort and safety, and still have a little fun, and all this bullshit my species is perpetrating on itself won't happen for a few generations after I'm dead.
None of this matters. So-called 'self driving cars' still have no capacity to actually think, and so-called 'deep learning algorithms' and so on are not a substitute for actual cognition. I still maintain that these are being rushed to market as fast as they possibly can with the only real goal in mind being to start getting ROI as fast as possible, and their legal departments have assured them that the financial risk of settling lawsuits out of court is acceptable compared to not pushing these out the door as soon as they possibly can. Sadly there will be accidents and deaths before they're banned from public roads, and even then they'll try to lobby and bribe legislators into letting them continue anyway. In the end these will be a massive failure because the 'technology' is not adequate and never will be, no matter how much 'training' you download into it.
No idea really what I'm talking about here, but what it sounds like to me is that it could have been way worse. They were at second stage separation and ignition, right? So they were well away from the launch area, but not so close to leaving the atmosphere. I'd say if there's a time the launch vehicle is going to fail on you, that's probably the best time, you can return to Earth relatively safely, not having to worry about an uncontrolled re-entry or being at too low an altitude for any parachutes to deploy properly. Also, the engine(s) either shut down on their own, or were shut down in a controlled manner safely, either of which is a hell of a lot better than having them explode on you. As for the rest, I guess what pilots have always said applies here: any landing you can walk away from is a good landing. An expensive failure to be sure, but nobody died.