What you're saying is that 99.9999999999999999999% of the world is either as dumb as a box of rocks, or has been tricked/indoctrinated to believe that 'privacy' is BAD and WRONG and only BAD and WRONG people want it. Then to reinforce that activity they are given treats and positive reinforcement of the unnatural (and believe you me, everyone, the need for privacy is inherent, not learned) behavior of 'sharing everything with everyone all the time'. Doesn't make it right, doesn't mean Facebook is right, does likely mean Facebook is making this shit up to try to stop the bleeding (oh look, a puppy!) I for one don't believe them, Facebook is evil, social media in general is evil and pointless and stupid, and it all needs to go away.
How many had it forced on them, were tricked into upgrading, or made no conscious choice whatsoever and really didn't notice, just turned it on one morning and whump, there it was? Be honest, Microsoft.
That's a big 'if' is the problem, especially with the current administration (that doesn't seem to care about the environment), and shitty corporations that don't care about 10 or 100 years from now, only about this years' profits.
Okay.. Here's an update to the above; graphene-reinforced concrete that cuts the CO2 emissions almost in half. I'd provisionally call that progress. Now, how much environmental impact does graphene production cause? Anyone? Bueller?
Here's the problem: If you're going to call out cement production as one more thing that's going to destroy the Earth with global warming, that's fine, but you've got to come up with an alternative that doesn't set back human civilization (such as it is; I don't feel like we're very 'civilized' at all, but I diverge) 2000 years in the process. Do we start making everything out of stone again? Obligatory jokes about slaves and pyramids, I guess. Wood? Environmentalists would have a fit, also show me how you can build a 100 story skyscraper out of wood. Something else? Or do we just go back to living in grass huts?
That's the major problem. Most 'environmental' problems regarding 'sustainability' seem like they would have us going back to an agrarian society of just subsistence, and 7.6 billion people aren't going to go for it. Come up with viable alternatives!
It's very refreshing to read someone on Slashdot, discussing this subject, who doesn't engage in 'magical thinking' when it comes to so-called 'AI' (e.g., 'build a gigantic neural net/deep learning machine', '***then magic happens***', 'oh look, it's conscious/self-aware/fully cognitive!'), instead realizing and expressing that we don't know the first thing, really, about what makes a human brain human, therefore we can't build a machine that does the same thing. Which should be obvious, but somehow it isn't. Personally, I blame TV and movies for making people think it's that easy, and marketing people from 'AI' companies, hyping up their pseudo-intelligence machines to the point where people actually believe there's a person in that box.
But can your expert chess program have a normal human conversation? Understand and instinctively sympathize with you when you talk about the horrible day you had at work, or be excited for you when you have a success at something? Or appreciate that it was a nice day outside that day? No? Then all it is, is a CHESS PROGRAM.
Excuse me for rambling on a bit here (feel free to stop reading if you like), but: When smartphones first started coming out, I still gave a damn about computers in general, writing code, creating things for myself, and I thought, "Wow, that could be pretty cool, I'd like to write software that runs on something like that, it'd be cool to have something that portable that's like a miniature computer!" then I discovered how locked-down and limited they were because they're phones. Lost interest completely. Then tablets came out, and I was just basically "Meh.." about those, then the iPad, and I thought to myself "Touchscreen only? Oh god why? And it's Apple, so it's about as locked-down as smartphones, what's the point?". Nothing has improved. It's all just 'appliances' now. No fun allowed. I'd rather ride my bike. Seriously, computers stopped being fun when I couldn't break out a soldering iron and put together one from parts into a general purpose system. It's all too commericialized, monetized, and dumbed-down for the average consumer. I actually preferred it when it was 'user hostile' instead of 'user friendly'.
As humans we're very ready to anthropomorphize anything.
In one form or another I've said this at least a hundred times around here. In the case of so-called 'AI' ('pseudo-intelligence', really), TV and movies don't help people distinguish between the real thing (which doesn't exist) and the ersatz (which is all around us).
Once robots pass the Turing test, we'll probably recognize that we're just not that hard to fool.
Sadly, many people are indeed easy to fool; consider how many people think Alexa or Siri is a not-that-bright but still fully conscious synthetic being? Again, TV and movies aren't helping in this regard; many people I'm sure think that so-called 'self driving cars' have an actual fully-functional mind inside there, conscious, cognitive, and capable of human-level thought, but nothing could be farther from the truth; some of them probably also think self-driving cars will have a pleasant conversation with them on their way to wherever they're going, too. We need to at least TRY to educate people about the reality of these machines.
AC or no, I agree with you. I think it's kind of sad how so many people are buried in a phone all day long. I've been building myself computers for almost 40 years and I just don't get it.
Sure. And so-called 'law enforcement' would end up in a three-way Machiavellian standoff between them, 'The Rich', and politicians, because they'd know they were all using 'illegal' encryption, but since 'The Rich' put the politicians in office, and politicians appoint the LEOs, they'd know they have leverage they can use whenever they need to. As if our government isn't corrupt enough as-is, this'll just make it that much more corrupt.
What's so wrong with just chilling in a waiting room, relaxing, maybe reading a magazine, or if you know you're going to be waiting a while, bringing a book with you and reading that? Or will some of you throw a tantrum if you can't have all your senses stimulated every waking moment?
I do not have (or want) a smartphone or any gaming consoles -- and in fact I stopped bothering to PC game at least 15 years ago (last game I bothered with was Warcraft 2). So when they're referring to 'mobile gaming', do they mean these 'twitch games' people play on their phones? Or something else?
I'd imagine NK doesn't really worry too much about malware, since the vast majority of it probably comes from them and their buddies in China and Russia, they'd have the methods for removing it readily available. They probably infect each other's machines with it just as a prank.
If I'm the only one with access to my encryption key then you can be sure that everything signed with it is from me.
Oh, no, you don't seem to understand: Unbreakable encryption will be illegal if they have their way; you'd have to obtain the software from illegal sources (even if you wrote it yourself), and you'd be arrested, tried, and convicted as a cybercriminal for posessing and using it. Furthermore your entire life would be turned upside down, as they sift through it trying to find your connections to terrorism. That 'investigation' would include your family, your friends, your employer, and everyone you know, and they'd sift through their lives, too, looking for any links to terrorism. Your life would be essentially ruined.
Why the fuck should I listen to anything some skeezy AC has to say, especially when you're clearly and obviously a Trump supporter, and as such your basic intelligence is in question? Post under your real name, and leave off with the references to the orange-haired pussy-grabbing moron in the Whitehouse and then maybe I'll consider whatever the hell it is you have to say.
Friend, here's the detail you're missing: They know all this and they don't give a fuck; they want access to everything, on demand, bar none, and they don't give a fuck if that means Joe Average gets his identity stolen, bank accounts drained, and life permanently ruined, so long as they can grab more and more power. They'll gladly ruin everyone and everything just to satisfy their lust for power and control. That is why they HAVE TO BE STOPPED.
This is the battle for the future of the Internet, computing, and ultimately the privacy rights of every single citizen of the United States, and perhaps the entire world.
If the anal-retentive, power-grubbing law-enforcement and politician types get their way, then there will be no such thing as 'private communications', 'secure data', or for all intents and purposes 'privacy' -- unless you're law enforcement, a politician, or (of course) The Rich. There will also, ironically, be less of things called 'justice' and 'law and order', because in their mad, foaming-at-the-mouth dash to have access to all things at all times, bar none, they will open the door for criminals to freely and easily take whatever data or communications they want; even your average script-kiddie would soon enough be able to break into whatever data-store they want. Your financial accounts? Your very identity? Up for grabs -- unless you're a cop, are a politician, or have money.
THAT IS WHY THERE HAS TO BE A LINE DRAWN IN THE SAND; HERE, AND NO FARTHER.
You misunderstand; they're not broken, just out of bacon. See, they cook the bacon up fresh whenever you press the button, so when it's out of bacon all you get is a blast of hot air. Since bacon is so universally popular, it's almost impossible to keep the machine stocked with bacon. What you need to do is camp out and wait for the maintenance person to service the restroom, which is when it's restocked with fresh bacon, and get yours right away. Sometimes they forget, though, so you'd better follow the guy into the restroom and remind him if he forgets, so you can get your freshly-cooked bacon. Glad to help!:-)
Shopping for a Russian wife on Facebook. Then you find out she's a GRU operative and you get blackmailed into serving Putin. Most likely make you run for public office.
All kidding around aside.. most online dating is just fail, fail, fail to start with, and 'Facebook dating'? Seriously? It's too early in the week to facepalm this hard.
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What you're saying is that 99.9999999999999999999% of the world is either as dumb as a box of rocks, or has been tricked/indoctrinated to believe that 'privacy' is BAD and WRONG and only BAD and WRONG people want it. Then to reinforce that activity they are given treats and positive reinforcement of the unnatural (and believe you me, everyone, the need for privacy is inherent, not learned) behavior of 'sharing everything with everyone all the time'. Doesn't make it right, doesn't mean Facebook is right, does likely mean Facebook is making this shit up to try to stop the bleeding (oh look, a puppy!) I for one don't believe them, Facebook is evil, social media in general is evil and pointless and stupid, and it all needs to go away.
How many had it forced on them, were tricked into upgrading, or made no conscious choice whatsoever and really didn't notice, just turned it on one morning and whump, there it was? Be honest, Microsoft.
That's a big 'if' is the problem, especially with the current administration (that doesn't seem to care about the environment), and shitty corporations that don't care about 10 or 100 years from now, only about this years' profits.
"There's a sucker born every minute", 2018 video gaming editon.
'Biology Will Be the Next Big Computing Platform'
Okay.. Here's an update to the above; graphene-reinforced concrete that cuts the CO2 emissions almost in half. I'd provisionally call that progress. Now, how much environmental impact does graphene production cause? Anyone? Bueller?
Here's the problem: If you're going to call out cement production as one more thing that's going to destroy the Earth with global warming, that's fine, but you've got to come up with an alternative that doesn't set back human civilization (such as it is; I don't feel like we're very 'civilized' at all, but I diverge) 2000 years in the process. Do we start making everything out of stone again? Obligatory jokes about slaves and pyramids, I guess. Wood? Environmentalists would have a fit, also show me how you can build a 100 story skyscraper out of wood. Something else? Or do we just go back to living in grass huts?
That's the major problem. Most 'environmental' problems regarding 'sustainability' seem like they would have us going back to an agrarian society of just subsistence, and 7.6 billion people aren't going to go for it. Come up with viable alternatives!
It's very refreshing to read someone on Slashdot, discussing this subject, who doesn't engage in 'magical thinking' when it comes to so-called 'AI' (e.g., 'build a gigantic neural net/deep learning machine', '***then magic happens***', 'oh look, it's conscious/self-aware/fully cognitive!'), instead realizing and expressing that we don't know the first thing, really, about what makes a human brain human, therefore we can't build a machine that does the same thing. Which should be obvious, but somehow it isn't. Personally, I blame TV and movies for making people think it's that easy, and marketing people from 'AI' companies, hyping up their pseudo-intelligence machines to the point where people actually believe there's a person in that box.
But can your expert chess program have a normal human conversation? Understand and instinctively sympathize with you when you talk about the horrible day you had at work, or be excited for you when you have a success at something? Or appreciate that it was a nice day outside that day? No? Then all it is, is a CHESS PROGRAM.
Excuse me for rambling on a bit here (feel free to stop reading if you like), but: When smartphones first started coming out, I still gave a damn about computers in general, writing code, creating things for myself, and I thought, "Wow, that could be pretty cool, I'd like to write software that runs on something like that, it'd be cool to have something that portable that's like a miniature computer!" then I discovered how locked-down and limited they were because they're phones. Lost interest completely. Then tablets came out, and I was just basically "Meh.." about those, then the iPad, and I thought to myself "Touchscreen only? Oh god why? And it's Apple, so it's about as locked-down as smartphones, what's the point?". Nothing has improved. It's all just 'appliances' now. No fun allowed. I'd rather ride my bike. Seriously, computers stopped being fun when I couldn't break out a soldering iron and put together one from parts into a general purpose system. It's all too commericialized, monetized, and dumbed-down for the average consumer. I actually preferred it when it was 'user hostile' instead of 'user friendly'.
As humans we're very ready to anthropomorphize anything.
In one form or another I've said this at least a hundred times around here. In the case of so-called 'AI' ('pseudo-intelligence', really), TV and movies don't help people distinguish between the real thing (which doesn't exist) and the ersatz (which is all around us).
Once robots pass the Turing test, we'll probably recognize that we're just not that hard to fool.
Sadly, many people are indeed easy to fool; consider how many people think Alexa or Siri is a not-that-bright but still fully conscious synthetic being? Again, TV and movies aren't helping in this regard; many people I'm sure think that so-called 'self driving cars' have an actual fully-functional mind inside there, conscious, cognitive, and capable of human-level thought, but nothing could be farther from the truth; some of them probably also think self-driving cars will have a pleasant conversation with them on their way to wherever they're going, too. We need to at least TRY to educate people about the reality of these machines.
AC or no, I agree with you. I think it's kind of sad how so many people are buried in a phone all day long. I've been building myself computers for almost 40 years and I just don't get it.
I wasn't confused about the 'platform', I was unclear on the 'software'.
So, in other words, most of it is utter garbage? That's what it's sounding like.
Sure. And so-called 'law enforcement' would end up in a three-way Machiavellian standoff between them, 'The Rich', and politicians, because they'd know they were all using 'illegal' encryption, but since 'The Rich' put the politicians in office, and politicians appoint the LEOs, they'd know they have leverage they can use whenever they need to. As if our government isn't corrupt enough as-is, this'll just make it that much more corrupt.
What's so wrong with just chilling in a waiting room, relaxing, maybe reading a magazine, or if you know you're going to be waiting a while, bringing a book with you and reading that? Or will some of you throw a tantrum if you can't have all your senses stimulated every waking moment?
I do not have (or want) a smartphone or any gaming consoles -- and in fact I stopped bothering to PC game at least 15 years ago (last game I bothered with was Warcraft 2). So when they're referring to 'mobile gaming', do they mean these 'twitch games' people play on their phones? Or something else?
I'd imagine NK doesn't really worry too much about malware, since the vast majority of it probably comes from them and their buddies in China and Russia, they'd have the methods for removing it readily available. They probably infect each other's machines with it just as a prank.
If I'm the only one with access to my encryption key then you can be sure that everything signed with it is from me.
Oh, no, you don't seem to understand: Unbreakable encryption will be illegal if they have their way; you'd have to obtain the software from illegal sources (even if you wrote it yourself), and you'd be arrested, tried, and convicted as a cybercriminal for posessing and using it. Furthermore your entire life would be turned upside down, as they sift through it trying to find your connections to terrorism. That 'investigation' would include your family, your friends, your employer, and everyone you know, and they'd sift through their lives, too, looking for any links to terrorism. Your life would be essentially ruined.
Why the fuck should I listen to anything some skeezy AC has to say, especially when you're clearly and obviously a Trump supporter, and as such your basic intelligence is in question? Post under your real name, and leave off with the references to the orange-haired pussy-grabbing moron in the Whitehouse and then maybe I'll consider whatever the hell it is you have to say.
Friend, here's the detail you're missing: They know all this and they don't give a fuck; they want access to everything, on demand, bar none, and they don't give a fuck if that means Joe Average gets his identity stolen, bank accounts drained, and life permanently ruined, so long as they can grab more and more power. They'll gladly ruin everyone and everything just to satisfy their lust for power and control. That is why they HAVE TO BE STOPPED.
This is the battle for the future of the Internet, computing, and ultimately the privacy rights of every single citizen of the United States, and perhaps the entire world.
If the anal-retentive, power-grubbing law-enforcement and politician types get their way, then there will be no such thing as 'private communications', 'secure data', or for all intents and purposes 'privacy' -- unless you're law enforcement, a politician, or (of course) The Rich. There will also, ironically, be less of things called 'justice' and 'law and order', because in their mad, foaming-at-the-mouth dash to have access to all things at all times, bar none, they will open the door for criminals to freely and easily take whatever data or communications they want; even your average script-kiddie would soon enough be able to break into whatever data-store they want. Your financial accounts? Your very identity? Up for grabs -- unless you're a cop, are a politician, or have money.
THAT IS WHY THERE HAS TO BE A LINE DRAWN IN THE SAND; HERE, AND NO FARTHER.
You misunderstand; they're not broken, just out of bacon. See, they cook the bacon up fresh whenever you press the button, so when it's out of bacon all you get is a blast of hot air. Since bacon is so universally popular, it's almost impossible to keep the machine stocked with bacon. What you need to do is camp out and wait for the maintenance person to service the restroom, which is when it's restocked with fresh bacon, and get yours right away. Sometimes they forget, though, so you'd better follow the guy into the restroom and remind him if he forgets, so you can get your freshly-cooked bacon. Glad to help! :-)
Shopping for a Russian wife on Facebook. Then you find out she's a GRU operative and you get blackmailed into serving Putin. Most likely make you run for public office.
All kidding around aside.. most online dating is just fail, fail, fail to start with, and 'Facebook dating'? Seriously? It's too early in the week to facepalm this hard.
Yes, I am; what's your point? Do you have one? Other than the one on top of your head that is? xD xD xD