Microsoft Says 700M Devices Now Run Windows 10 (techcrunch.com)

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Microsoft Says 700M Devices Now Run Windows 10 (techcrunch.com)

Posted by msmash on Monday May 7, 2018 @04:00AM from the aggressive-expansion dept.

Over 700 million devices run Windows 10, Microsoft announced on Monday at its Build developer conference. From a report: Almost exactly a year ago, that number stood at 500 million. In addition, the company also today noted that Office 365 now has 135 million monthly active commercial users, up from 120 million last October. Back in 2015, when Windows 10 launched, Microsoft's original goal was to hit a billion devices by 2018. It quickly became clear that this was a bit too optimistic. While Windows 10 usage clearly continues to grow at a decent speed, we're not likely to see it hit a billion users soon. In a wide-ranging interview with news outlet The Verge, Microsoft chief executive Satya Nadella discusses the future of Microsoft. (He gave an interview to CNBC as well.) Onstage at Build, Nadella said "privacy is a human right."

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Sure sure sure by cellocgw · 2018-05-07 04:03 · Score: 2, Insightful

Like we had a choice.
Certainly no choice on our business machines.
Certainly no choice on the machines all our nontechie relatives bought.

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1. Re:Sure sure sure by tepples · 2018-05-07 04:07 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  What applications do these "nontechie relatives" use that has no replacement on macOS?
2. Re:Sure sure sure by DogDude · 2018-05-07 04:07 · Score: 1
  
  Our business still runs Windows 7. My personal machines still run Windows 7. Why do you say that you don't have a choice?
  
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3. Re:Sure sure sure by Z00L00K · 2018-05-07 04:08 · Score: 5, Interesting
  
  I wonder what GDPR will do to the "telemetry" of Windows 10. EU citizens will have the right to know at May 25th. And no EULA can evade that.
  
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4. Re:Sure sure sure by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 04:12 · Score: 0
  
  games released after 2012
5. Re:Sure sure sure by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 04:15 · Score: 0
  
  I wonder what GDPR will do to the "telemetry" of Windows 10. EU citizens will have the right to know at May 25th. And no EULA can evade that.
  FWIW... https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/TrustCenter/Privacy/gdpr/default.aspx
6. Re:Sure sure sure by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 04:18 · Score: 0
  
  Ran on linux in the past, run on linux now, planning to keep on running linux in the future.
7. Re:Sure sure sure by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 04:19 · Score: 0
  
  Our business still runs Windows 7. My personal machines still run Windows 7. Why do you say that you don't have a choice?
  if you're still running windows 7, it sounds like you are the one who is without a choice of upgrades
8. Re:Sure sure sure by I4ko · 2018-05-07 04:22 · Score: 1
  
  The link covers only the cloud services that MS offers. Unfortunately nothing relevant to windows 10.
9. Re:Sure sure sure by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 04:29 · Score: 0
  
  The application to save money.
  "nontechie relatives" want a cheap computer (sub $500). Good look finding anything that runs macOS for that price point.
  Good or bad, they are not in that market.
10. Re:Sure sure sure by cascadingstylesheet · 2018-05-07 04:35 · Score: 1
  
  Our business still runs Windows 7. My personal machines still run Windows 7. Why do you say that you don't have a choice?
  Perhaps after two years, some machines aged and needed to be replaced.
11. Re:Sure sure sure by DarkRookie · 2018-05-07 04:35 · Score: 1
  
  Win 10 barely runs on those.
  
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12. Re:Sure sure sure by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 04:36 · Score: 0
  
  I never knew so much BULLSHIT could be packed into one web page!! M$ has admitted that it couldn't turn off the spying in Windows 10 if they wanted to. That is two statements right there. They can't turn the spyware off, and don't want to! M$ may have fooled many into thinking that the Windows10 spyware-virus could be made HIPPA complient, but there is NO FUCKING WAY THAT IT CAN BE!!!!!
13. Re:Sure sure sure by DNS-and-BIND · 2018-05-07 04:36 · Score: 0
  
  Why would a program like GWX Stopper have to be developed?
  
  This is the official user guide and announcement page for GWX Control Panel, the easiest way for users of Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 to protect their computers from Windows 10. With GWX Control Panel you can: Remove the "Get Windows 10" icon that appears in your notification area, prevent your Windows Update control panel from upgrading your computer to Windows 10, prevent your computer from secretly downloading Windows 10 installation files, detect and remove the hidden Windows 10 installation files if they're already on your PC, optionally monitor your computer for unwanted Windows 10-related settings and files- and beginning with version 1.7 you can now easily delete some hard-to-remove program files that are known to cause Windows 10 upgrades and annoyances.
  
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14. Re: Sure sure sure by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 04:39 · Score: 0
  
  Without a decent choice indeed.
  But 7 is basically 10 anyways, it's not like those numbers refer to a quantity. They're probably the most meaningless version numbers in the industry. Especially because they skipped 9 for purposes of looking cool and being lazy(not fixing version detection) at the same time.
15. Re:Sure sure sure by jellomizer · 2018-05-07 04:41 · Score: 2
  
  There are choices, Linux for business and Apple for home use. (They can be swapped too)
  But more to the issue, Microsoft is competing against itself. Having to convince people to get off their old versions and use the new versions, before the old versions get too old, and allowing the customers to look at other options, because either way it would be a hard upgrade.
  It is often like when Apple shows its iPhone sales. The people who stitch from Android to iOS or iOS to Android is more or less a wash. But apples success in a product are how many people upgrade their old phones to the new ones, and net new phone buyers.
  Now if Microsoft sees people not upgrading to Windows 10 and staying on Windows 7 or older. Then they may be having a problem with the product. Like they had with Windows Even Version. Where people didn't upgrade and stayed on the old version, forcing MS to put more effort into the next version to make it better and less on new shiny features.
  
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16. Re:Sure sure sure by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 04:42 · Score: 0
  
  Wrong! Still running Win7 x64 and I play games of today with no probs. I will never install Win10 on my personal machines. Work, I have no choice.
17. Re: Sure sure sure by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 04:46 · Score: 0
  
  But 7 is basically 10 anyways,
  I'm sorry about the loss of your brain, they could not be more different.
18. Re:Sure sure sure by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 04:54 · Score: 0
  
  Win 10 barely runs on those.
  Win 10 barely runs on a $1,000 computer.
19. Re:Sure sure sure by DogDude · 2018-05-07 05:06 · Score: 1
  
  I don't know. I'm guessing because some people weren't quite smart enough to avoid the upgrade, if they wanted to?
  
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20. Re:Sure sure sure by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 05:24 · Score: 0
  
  Speaking of which, how exactly do hospitals get away with running windows?
  Actually how would any company knowing that it is mining them for their private corporate data?
  -Linux user here, asking because I am genuinely curious.
21. Re: Sure sure sure by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 05:42 · Score: 0
  
  Says the guy who doesn't know anything. You're just parroting an ad.
  You basically are an ad.
  Hey if they couldn't be more different why are the file names exactly the same? Why are all the subsystems and APIs exactly the same?
  Most of 7 is XP recycled. Most of 8 is 7 recycled. Most of 10 is 8 recycled.
  Any exploit that works on 10 works on XP, 7 and 8, so yeah it's all recycled code. The only thing new is the UI. Telemetry isn't even new, it wasn't on everything but still existed in XP.
22. Re:Sure sure sure by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 05:48 · Score: 0
  
  Well....actually me and mine are just using 45$ raspberry pi computers and they are actually rather fast and good. Give one a try, they are dirt cheap and you will not be doing support anymore.
23. Re:Sure sure sure by DogDude · 2018-05-07 05:55 · Score: 1
  
  I'm in charge of about 30 Windows 7 machines. I never saw that.
  
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24. Re:Sure sure sure by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 06:08 · Score: 0
  
  Most non-techies will see the price tag on a mac and say "no, can't afford it." It has nothing to do with the applications.
25. Re:Sure sure sure by DogDude · 2018-05-07 06:08 · Score: 1
  
  You can get refurbs with Windows 7 on them for next to nothing. The market is flooded with them. We won't be moving away from Windows 7 until this market dries up.
  
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26. Re:Sure sure sure by DNS-and-BIND · 2018-05-07 06:16 · Score: 0
  
  Well, obviously that means it didn't happen! Jesus, some people.
  
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27. Re:Sure sure sure by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 06:22 · Score: 0
  
  Well, obviously that means it didn't happen! Jesus, some people.
28. Re:Sure sure sure by DogDude · 2018-05-07 06:41 · Score: 1
  
  I'm not saying it didn't happen. I'm saying we didn't see it. We did see one person accidentally do the update on a machine that mistakenly had the user set up as an admin (we just rolled it back), but other than that, we didn't see it.
  
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29. Re:Sure sure sure by LynnwoodRooster · 2018-05-07 06:56 · Score: 2
  
  I dunno, this computer runs things plenty fine for most non-techie people. Surfing, Facebook, e-mail, basic gaming, etc. All-in-one for under $500.
  
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30. Re:Sure sure sure by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 06:58 · Score: 0
  
  We used to call it a botnet.
31. Re:Sure sure sure by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 07:35 · Score: 0
  
  Speaking of which, how exactly do hospitals get away with running windows?
  there is no internet access
32. Re: Sure sure sure by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 07:42 · Score: 0
  
  Why are all the subsystems and APIs exactly the same?
  so where is the ubuntu subsystem on windows 7?
33. Re:Sure sure sure by Killall+-9+Bash · 2018-05-07 07:52 · Score: 1
  
  I CHOOSE not to "upgrade" to Windows 10.
  
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34. Re:Sure sure sure by Killall+-9+Bash · 2018-05-07 07:59 · Score: 1
  
  Maybe you didn't see ALL of the dirty tricks. Did you see the one where the user was NOTIFIED (not asked) about the impending 10 upgrade? Big window with one button ("ok"). Tell me what the user did wrong there. I got that one on MY workstation too, and I'm fucking sure I didn't agree to or approve of anything. Left the stupid window open and downloaded one of those 10 removers.
  
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35. Re:Sure sure sure by thegarbz · 2018-05-07 08:27 · Score: 1
  
  What applications do these "nontechie relatives" use that has no replacement on macOS?
  If we have learnt anything from the Netbook era it's that the answer is none, but they will just in general get pissed when ${random_windows_only_thing} doesn't work. So I have a question for you: If it works for them why force a change upon them?
  Most people don't care about the altruistic shit that happens on Slashdot. Try explaining privacy to someone and they'll likely post about it on their Facebook page. Try and explain after years of telling people how important security updates are that it's bad they get forced upon them.
  You'll get laughed at.
36. Re:Sure sure sure by thegarbz · 2018-05-07 08:28 · Score: 1
  
  I wonder what GDPR will do to the "telemetry" of Windows 10. EU citizens will have the right to know at May 25th. And no EULA can evade that.
  Nothing. Windows 10's latest update makes it fully compliant. The GDPR does nothing to prevent data gathering. It just puts some requirements about management, e.g. deletion such as here: https://pureinfotech.com/delet...
37. Re: Sure sure sure by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 08:41 · Score: 0
  
  That's a feature of windows 7. Not having all that bloat.
38. Re: Sure sure sure by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 08:48 · Score: 0
  
  Obviously they aren't backporting things that were added so recently to older versions. But 8 started as 7. They did in fact add some Windows 10 stuff to 7. They just stopped doing that.
39. Re:Sure sure sure by ArchieBunker · 2018-05-07 09:49 · Score: 1
  
  Hard to avoid the upgrade when clicking the X on the window means "yes" to Microsoft.
  
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40. Re: Sure sure sure by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 10:58 · Score: 0
  
  ... Congrats? Extended support ends in 18 months. Enjoy your malware.
41. Re: Sure sure sure by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 11:45 · Score: 0
  
  As if Windows 10 is not malware.
42. Re:Sure sure sure by tepples · 2018-05-07 12:11 · Score: 1
  
  What plans have you made for 20 months from now when security updates for the Windows 7 operating system on these refurbs dry up?
43. Re:Sure sure sure by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 14:00 · Score: 0
  
  Win 10 barely runs on a $1,000 computer.
  Utter bullshit. A $1000 computer would be more powerful than this one that I built in 2010 and runs Windows 10 just fine. Fuck's sake, no-one's going to take you seriously if you peddle hyperbole like this.
44. Re:Sure sure sure by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 16:24 · Score: 0
  
  Not really. I once explained privacy related issued on social media platforms to my sister in law. Her initial reaction was "so what?", innocently. I then explained possible identity theft, scam, and so on. And she actually took that seriously. What I don't know is whether she takes a concrete action toward social media platforms.
45. Re:Sure sure sure by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 16:28 · Score: 0
  
  They just don't care, I suppose. You know, convenience and all.
46. Re: Sure sure sure by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-08 01:53 · Score: 0
  
  Visual basic 6.0
47. Re:Sure sure sure by DarkRookie · 2018-05-08 02:54 · Score: 1
  
  Lucky you I guess.
  My $1000 system ran noticeably slower on Win 10 vs 7.
  
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48. Re:Sure sure sure by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-08 07:10 · Score: 0
  
  Maybe you didn't see ALL of the dirty tricks. Did you see the one where the user was NOTIFIED (not asked) about the impending 10 upgrade? Big window with one button ("ok"). Tell me what the user did wrong there. I got that one on MY workstation too, and I'm fucking sure I didn't agree to or approve of anything. Left the stupid window open and downloaded one of those 10 removers.
  I think there was some sort of hyperlink hidden in the small print for saying, in effect, "not ok this time".
  With each of their dirty tricks they got perhaps 70% of the targeted victims, announcing weeks later "oh, we are surprised that some people did not like this trickery, so we are going to try something different next time". Every fscking single time they came up with something new invidious instead of just fscking accepting that people did not want to upgrade. If they were taking concerns seriously, they could have just stopped fscking with people in that manner.
  They most definitely were _not_ interested in heeding their user's wishes.
49. Re:Sure sure sure by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-10 05:37 · Score: 0
  
  The app that saves you $1000 by not buying a Mac.
How many *chose* to run it? by Rick+Schumann · 2018-05-07 04:04 · Score: 3, Interesting

How many had it forced on them, were tricked into upgrading, or made no conscious choice whatsoever and really didn't notice, just turned it on one morning and whump, there it was? Be honest, Microsoft.
1. Re:How many *chose* to run it? by Rob+Lister · 2018-05-07 04:27 · Score: 1, Troll
  
  I mean, you're a little right, Rick, but was it forced on you? Were you tricked into upgrading? I can't imagine anyone wouldn't notice though. But for the great unwashed it really didn't make much of a difference. I have a mixture on several machines and I'm pretty happy with all of them. Or at least not unhappy.
2. Re:How many *chose* to run it? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 04:29 · Score: 0
  
  You are tempting fate there for sure! Using Microsoft and honest in the same sentence?! WOW! If you locked Microsoft in a room with the truth, there would be a matter-antimatter explosion!!!
  And yes, several relatives of mine were hit with the forced downgrade from Windows 7 to the Windows 10 SPY-VIRUS. Reverting them back to Win7 worked for a while, but installations were corrupted and failed in a few weeks. They are all now happily running Linux Mint.
3. Re:How many *chose* to run it? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 04:31 · Score: 1
  
  Microsoft destroyed my laptop. It was working fine with older version of Windows (pre-Win10 version). Yes the laptop-display didn't work, but I had it connected to my TV via HDMI and everything was fine. Well, without prompting, without being given a choice, without being able to stop it Microsoft started Windows10 installing/upgrading on its own. But the video out HDMI doesn't work by default & without being able to see the native-laptop-screen am unable to get the forced-upgrade to complete, revert, nor install/update HDMI video drivers.
  How is this not criminal? How is this not corporate-sanctioned hacking?
  Where do I join class action lawsuit? Yes, may not get much money but it should cost Microsoft executives time in court and jail. When I contacted Microsoft they told me it was the equipment OEM who is responsible, or that I just needed to update the drivers (they repeatedly didn't seem to understand that native-display is needed to do that).
4. Re:How many *chose* to run it? by Rick+Schumann · 2018-05-07 04:46 · Score: 4, Interesting
  
  Technically I did have it forced on me -- by my employer, a large microchip manufacturer. Showed up for work one Monday and the gods-be-damned drive encryption wouldn't accept my password. So they tell me "Oh, that's not compatible anymore, we have to 'upgrade' you to Windows 10". So I had NO CHOICE in the matter. Of course they own the damned computer, too, but I had to put up with it. I've hacked the living shit out of Win10 though so it's as sanitized as I can make it, use a different UI shell so it's more like Win7, and being the Enterprise version most all of the telemetry (spyware) is cut out or disabled (and more after I got done with it), so I'm coping. But at home? Still on XP, until I get around to upgrading the hardware, in which case it looks like it'll be Ubuntu. No more MS for me, thanks anyway.
5. Re: How many *chose* to run it? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 04:58 · Score: 0
  
  The most dishonest and cunning person at Microsoft has been gone for years.
6. Re:How many *chose* to run it? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 05:59 · Score: 0
  
  Microsoft destroyed my laptop. It was working fine with older version of Windows (pre-Win10 version). Yes the laptop-display didn't work, but I had it connected to my TV via HDMI and everything was fine. Well, without prompting, without being given a choice, without being able to stop it Microsoft started Windows10 installing/upgrading on its own.
  If you had the laptop working with an HDMI output, you already clicked "I agree" to the license agreement of a version of Windows effectively relinquishing ownership of your laptop to Microsoft.
  Microsoft can probably sue you for non-compliance if you don't keep your botnet node online and in good working order. The good news is that they'll likely not need the laptop display for their purposes.
7. Re:How many *chose* to run it? by YuppieScum · 2018-05-07 07:14 · Score: 1
  
  FWIW, several of my non-techie friends were tricked into upgrading to Windows 10 - when the "do you want Windows 10" pop-up appeared, they clicked on the "close window" icon like they'd done before, but MS had decided to change the behaviour of the dialog, so that now meant "yes."
  
  Better yet, a couple of those (Sony - yes, I know, but I wasn't consulted during the purchasing phase) machines became unusable due to a lack of appropriate hardware drivers.
  
  Also, FWIW, MS can claim Windows 10 stats on pretty much every new non-Apple PC sold, as (a) MS and the OEMs don't offer any alternative; and (b) despite what gets installed on it once it's out of the box, so their claims are effectively meaningless.
  
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8. Re:How many *chose* to run it? by Mr.Radar · 2018-05-07 07:35 · Score: 1
  
  Why not upgrade your existing home computer to Ubuntu now? Firefox is ending support for XP this year and it's the last major browser to do so; after that you get no new web features or security updates (not to mention the years of security updates for other system components you've missed out on, such as the Meltdown and Spectre mitigations).
  
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9. Re:How many *chose* to run it? by Rick+Schumann · 2018-05-07 08:45 · Score: 1
  
  Because I don't want to break the only working setup I have for something I haven't worked out all the kinks in, that's why, and also the XP box is >10 years old, single core processor, 2GB RAM, and just not worth bothering 'upgrading' an OS on. I have a newer setup that will replace it -- as soon as I get all the OS-related problems worked out. Also I don't spend much time playing with computers anymore so I'm not going to waste time duplicating effort for no reason. Also it's not a huge 3-alarm-fire priority; it'll happen when I have time and wherewithal to get it done.
10. Re:How many *chose* to run it? by cwsumner · 2018-05-07 10:04 · Score: 2
  
  How many had it forced on them, were tricked into upgrading, or made no conscious choice whatsoever and really didn't notice, just turned it on one morning and whump, there it was? Be honest, Microsoft.
  Standard M$ tactic: Pop up a question window that only needs an Enter to count as "Yes go ahead".
  The user is working and typing something into a text window or word processor, while reading from a page (or something). The question pops up and "steals" the keyboard, the user typing hits an Enter, and the question takes it as a "Yes". The user probably never saw the question and just wonders "where did my words go???".
  M$ has known about this bug for years and has used it before. When they say that all users agreed to upgrade, this is what they are talking about...
11. Re:How many *chose* to run it? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 11:28 · Score: 0
  
  My employer migrated our phones to IP based phones that run windows. Now I need to reset my phone at least once a month.
12. Re:How many *chose* to run it? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 12:09 · Score: 0
  
  a large microchip manufacturer
  Is that like a jumbo shrimp distributor?
13. Re:How many *chose* to run it? by vandamme · 2018-05-13 12:03 · Score: 1
  
  Ubuntu is now the heaviest desktop (maybe tied with Mint Cinnamon). Kubuntu or Ubuntu MATE take half the memory. I've put Lubuntu or Puppy on many a "vintage" XP machine.
Herpes 1.0 is also a huge success... by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 04:05 · Score: 5, Funny

it's "running" on about 3 billion humans...
1. Re:Herpes 1.0 is also a huge success... by omnichad · 2018-05-07 04:17 · Score: 1
  
  1.0? The only reason it's spread so far is by forking.
2. Re:Herpes 1.0 is also a huge success... by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 05:16 · Score: 0
  
  It was a forced upgrade for me. Would have skipped it if I'd know it would be this invasive to my privacy.
3. Re:Herpes 1.0 is also a huge success... by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 06:52 · Score: 0
  
  " The only reason it's spread so far is by forking."
  Did you intentionally misspell that word?
4. Re:Herpes 1.0 is also a huge success... by omnichad · 2018-05-07 07:09 · Score: 1
  
  Misspell what word? Viruses propagate, in part, by mutating. There is no definitive version 1.0, as they don't have a consistent codebase. With each fork, it is more likely to spread.
5. Re:Herpes 1.0 is also a huge success... by swillden · 2018-05-07 08:31 · Score: 1
  
  " The only reason it's spread so far is by forking." Did you intentionally misspell that word?
  
  Misspell what word? Viruses propagate, in part, by mutating. There is no definitive version 1.0, as they don't have a consistent codebase. With each fork, it is more likely to spread.
  I'm not sure which of you to WHOOOOSH.
  
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6. Re:Herpes 1.0 is also a huge success... by omnichad · 2018-05-07 08:37 · Score: 1
  
  I try ;-)
They say is runs by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 04:06 · Score: 0

I say it walks, at a leisurely pace at that.
Still, better than Vista's fat-turtle waddle.
Thats a lot! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 04:09 · Score: 0

Thankfully, none of them are mine.
How many.... by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 04:09 · Score: 0

How many voluntarily?
I'm Doing My Part! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 04:09 · Score: 2, Funny

I keep Windows 10 up to date on our desktop, laptop, and two surface tablets. Fantastic operating system. Service guarantees citizenship! Thanks, Microsoft!
Sounds like a botnet advertisement by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 04:11 · Score: 1

Over 700 million devices run Windows 10, Microsoft announced on Monday at its Build developer conference.
And a sizeable ratio of those even with sort-of legal agreement of its owners to terms that allow Microsoft to run basically any payload they want.
This is the future of organized crime.
Why is this news? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 04:12 · Score: 0

As others have already pointed out, most people do not have a choice when they buy a new computer.
1. Re:Why is this news? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 04:34 · Score: 0
  
  The news is that that they missed their original goal of "a billion devices by 2018". Downplaying the 700M figure is not needed.
700 Mil Run Windows 10, Or Run FROM Windows 10? by dryriver · 2018-05-07 04:12 · Score: 1

That... is the question. Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, Or to take arms against a sea of troubles And by opposing end them. To die—to sleep, No more; and by a sleep to say we end The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks That flesh is heir to: 'tis a consummation Devoutly to be wish'd.

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1. Re:700 Mil Run Windows 10, Or Run FROM Windows 10? by the_skywise · 2018-05-07 04:20 · Score: 2
  
  *boots his computer*
  Once more into the breach dear friends!
Microsoft would rather have less users by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 04:17 · Score: 0

So long as all those users get telemetry tracked.
Correction by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 04:18 · Score: 1

After my Windows 10 laptop automatically patched itself it now fails to boot. So correction: 699,999,999 devices.
Not quite true by davidwr · 2018-05-07 04:24 · Score: 1

I think most x86 machines are still sold with firmware that lets you erase the drive and install another OS.
I expect that to drop below 50% within a few years though. Either that, or x86 market will be supplanted by ARM or something else that is effectively OS-locked by the firmware.
It is true that most new x86 pcs have Windows 10 pre-installed and pre-paid-for.

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1. Re:Not quite true by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 04:31 · Score: 0, Interesting
  
  It is true that most new x86 pcs have Windows 10 pre-installed and pre-paid-for.
  That sounds like being baptized in the name of Jesus who died for our sins. Christianity pre-installed and pre-paid-for.
  Only for Windows instead.
2. Re:Not quite true by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 05:28 · Score: 0
  
  Huh? My raspberry pi has an ARM64 processor.
  I can run several operating systems of my choosing, nothing is locked to it.
3. Re:Not quite true by davidwr · 2018-05-07 08:21 · Score: 1
  
  I should have clarified:
  I expect that either computers and other things people "think of" as general-purpose computers - including tablets and smartphones but not including thermostats and feature phones - will be mostly "OS locked by firmware" in a few years.
  They will do this either because x86 will migrate in that direction or because x86 will be supplanted by something else that will or which is already "mostly OS locked."
  If you only count ARM-based PCs, smart-phones, and tablets that most people think of as a "general purpose computer" and you don't count PCs, phones, and tablets that are in fact are used as an embedded or special-purpose device, I think more than half of them are, for all practical purposes, "OS-locked" today. If they aren't technically OS-locked, it's very hard to get a different OS installed.
  So, if you are using that Pi as a general purpose computer, yes, it counts toward the total, but I think it's in the "less than 50% which are not OS-locked" group. If you are using it as an embedded system or other special-purpose device, it's excluded from the count.
  Just for reference, I think over a billion smart-phones were sold to end users in 2016. Almost all of them used ARM. Let's assume at least half of them were used for things other than the 3 very popular "special purpose tasks" of 1) making and receiving phone calls 2) surfing the web with the default web browser and 3) taking pictures or making movies with the default camera app (I picked 3 because if you have more than 3 very different, independent "special purpose tasks" then you've clearly crossed the line into "general purpose"). That's still half a billion ARM devices. Almost all of those either had a locked bootloader or a hard-to-bypass bootloader.
  Raspberry Pi sales were under 15 million total during its first 5 years of life. It's not quite statistical noise but it's close.
  
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Minux in more popular by goombah99 · 2018-05-07 04:26 · Score: 1

But Intel doen't give you a choice. you have to run Minux.

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Hardisks / ssd's with win 10 metric by sjwest · 2018-05-07 04:31 · Score: 2

We buy pcs without Microsoft licences (not from the famous brands) and still get microshit software on disk so if they consider new harddisk sales as a metric there wrong.
Could run does not mean it runs it.
1. Re:Hardisks / ssd's with win 10 metric by thegarbz · 2018-05-07 08:32 · Score: 2
  
  Congratulations on adding to the rounding error.
Wrong again fucko! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 04:34 · Score: 0

Rocksmith 2014 works just fine on Mac, you don't even need the cable.
1. Re:Wrong again fucko! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 04:56 · Score: 0
  
  You named exactly one game slugger, what about the rest of them.
  Or what about the extreme cost for a mac compared to a windows machine.
2. Re: Wrong again fucko! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 05:36 · Score: 0
  
  So what? It only takes one counter example to disprove an absolute statement.
  Fuck off kid.
3. Re: Wrong again fucko! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 08:22 · Score: 0
  
  Spoken like a true sack biter.
4. Re: Wrong again fucko! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 08:33 · Score: 0
  
  Spoken like a true kiddo.
  Just come out of the closet already millennial faggot. Your insults are just Freudian slips.
5. Re:Wrong again fucko! by tepples · 2018-05-07 12:06 · Score: 1
  
  Let's try a couple different answers that aren't quite so absolute: The majority of PC games released since January 1, 2013. Or the particular games that your friends play and want to play with you in online multiplayer.
The Future of Microsoft? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 04:44 · Score: 0

Please. Shrivel up and die. Pretty please.
One can dream, no?
Re: Even after overwhelming anti-ms trolling by ne by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 04:45 · Score: 0

More like Microsoft flooded the market with free samples.
Yeah your upgrade was free, how about your next computer? You'll be paying so it was never free. Just heroin economics.
Sure... by Locke2005 · 2018-05-07 04:50 · Score: 1

...and at least 100 million of those devices were upgraded voluntarily!

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1. Re:Sure... by stooo · 2018-05-07 11:00 · Score: 1
  
  >>...and at least 100 million of those devices were upgraded voluntarily!
  Upgraded? You mean like in "Up" and "Graded" ?
  
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Are they double-counting reinstalls? by greenwow · 2018-05-07 05:04 · Score: 1

As I'm sitting here waiting on Windows to clean install a fourth time on my work laptop...
1. Re:Are they double-counting reinstalls? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 05:33 · Score: 0
  
  Perhaps now would be a good time for you to experience linux. You can load linux mint, or ubuntu (those are popular user friendly choices) onto a USB stick, boot off the stick and give it a whirl as you please. I did a few years ago and I just never went back, I now have 3x machines all running linux at home and my wife loves it. Really for most things you just need a functional browser and little else. Steam for linux has some super fun games, I like to recommend "don't starve" myself.
  At the very least if you have work you need to do then this cycling reboot crap is probably leaving you stalled out and booting off a USB stick will turn your brick machine back into a fully operational one in just a few moments.
2. Re:Are they double-counting reinstalls? by stooo · 2018-05-07 11:01 · Score: 1
  
  >> As I'm sitting here waiting on Windows to clean install a fourth time on my work laptop...
  I cleaned a lot of windows, and they are all dirty again.
  
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Bricked included in the numbers by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 05:38 · Score: 0

Are PCs that no longer function because of Windows 10 included in the numbers?
Soon to be 700M - 1 by Snotnose · 2018-05-07 05:42 · Score: 1

I did a manual update on my laptop last tuesday in the hopes of no unexpected reboots. Last night it rebooted.

Fuck you Microsoft. If you can't be bothered to ask before rebooting, I can't be bothered to run your software next time I buy a laptop.
Just don't write about George Carlin on it by Virtucon · 2018-05-07 05:58 · Score: 1

Otherwise the TOS thought police might get you if you start using any of the 7 words

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Good Luck Sheeple by simpz · 2018-05-07 06:32 · Score: 1

With your Personal Computer that no longer belongs to you.
The scariest statement from about 2 years ago "Over 82 billion photos viewed within the Windows 10 Photo app"
Even if w10 was the best software ever this *should* be a deal breaker. Esp for technical users, at least limit your exposure to game play etc where you actually need to use it.
Priorities by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 07:16 · Score: 0

Maybe get a life there, Sparkie. There's more to life than the computer OS you run. Your internal rage machine will cut years off your life.
Only Raspberry Pi computers should connect? by Futurepower(R) · 2018-05-07 07:48 · Score: 1

Please provide a link. I want to try the Raspberry Pi you recommend.

Only Raspberry Pi computers should connect to the internet? Why Raspberry Pi isn't vulnerable to Spectre or Meltdown

Intel CPUs are not safe: Intel reportedly gears up to patch 8 Spectre Next Generation CPU flaws. (May 3, 2018)

Computers running Windows 10 with internet access are not safe. Some of the huge number of shockingly ugly problems with Windows 10:

Windows 10 is possibly the worst spyware ever made.

7 ways Windows 10 pushes ads at you...

Microsoft is infesting Windows 10 with annoying ads.

Years of bugginess: Windows 10 bugs

Problems this year: Windows 10 problems 2018

Update problems this year: Windows 10 update problems 2018
1. Re: Only Raspberry Pi computers should connect? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 08:25 · Score: 0
  
  Well, I would recommend the newest version which is the raspberry pi 3b+, I won't give a link for it because almost every single online retailer sells them be it ebay, amazon, or specialty outlets like buyapi. You really just have to google 'buy a pi online' and you'll get 500,000+ results for various retailers selling them. It is rather like buying toilet paper you can get it almost anywhere.
  Where you will not find them is in brick and mortar stores, the reasons for this elude me but that is just how it is.
Re: Even after overwhelming anti-ms trolling by ne by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 09:00 · Score: 0

For the anti-ms troll, there must be no other explanation other than 700 million people are stupid druggies. Must be scary to think people know about and still don't like the alternatives...
The Stained Glass Logo. by westlake · 2018-05-07 09:33 · Score: 1

Perhaps when Win 10 does reach a billion installs Slashdot will finally retire its stained glass windows logo. If the stereotypical Slashdot post about Win 10 died with it, so much the better.
1. Re:The Stained Glass Logo. by stooo · 2018-05-07 11:03 · Score: 1
  
  Why remove the logo when Windows is still broken ?
  
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Soo there are 700m idiots out there by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 11:50 · Score: 0

No surprised.
Ps. Satya Nadella is a clueless idiot, leader of morons. He has driven Microsoft into the ground, and made them useless.
Fight me right now, pussy. by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 11:58 · Score: 0

It is literally called "heroin economics." It doesn't have to mean drugs, it means any time you are given a sample and expected to get hooked.
I did not name it so you can quit bashing me over what something is named.
And FYI, it isn't 700 million...but there are about half that many junkies in the world. So even if that was my argument it isn't entirely baseless.
My argument is not that Windows is drugs, just that the same tactic works for things other than drugs. And in the end, it is nowhere near free.
Raspberry Pi vendor and model you recommend? by Futurepower(R) · 2018-05-07 12:25 · Score: 1

I was hoping you, or someone, had a Raspberry Pi vendor that is recommended.

I've done some research and found that most companies are bad at communicating. It is possible to spend hours trying to decide about the different offerings.
1. Re:Raspberry Pi vendor and model you recommend? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-07 15:55 · Score: 0
  
  I've bought from Ameridroid before and had no problems at all.
  https://ameridroid.com/products/raspberry-pi-3-model-b-plus
If all your friends juped of a bridge? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-05-08 03:55 · Score: 0

W10 is so disgustingly awful that it has made me stop gaming. Not a small feat considering I have spent the majority of my free time doing that for the last thirty years. I have started fly fishing since it does not aggravate me like W10. (You I use Linux instead for all other things. Salix FTW!)