You know, all of you guys who are talking about people who don't know about Firefox are forgetting that it was the same way with the old versions of Netscape.
I worked for an ISP in 1995. We had to provide software because almost everyone was running Windows 3.1, which had no TCP/IP stack. Since a lot of our customers still had 386s, here's the software suite that we put together:
- Trumpet Winsock - Eudora (back when base Eudora was free) - Mosaic - WS_FTP - a gopher client - Free Agent (news reader)
EVERYONE hated Mosaic. That was usually the first complaint we got from a new customer. They had never heard of Netscape, at all. I can't count how many times I had to walk a noob through using WS_FTP to download Netscape 2.x from ftp[1..20].netscape.com.
maybe more like: Entrepreneur, Doctor, Lawyer. The most admired businessmen in america are the ones that are perceived to be 'self-made' - there are a huge number of people that believe that Bill Gates is wholly self-made and single-handedly created PCs.
I'm 5'11. When I was 17 I weighed 175. I'm now 28 and I weighed 230 at the doctor's office today. Therefore, I'm in no position to condemn anyone for letting themselves go.
The fact is, there are thin women, and there are heavy women, downright fat women, and all points in between. Each one of them is a unique person, both in the good and bad ways. There's someone out there for everyone. To say that all women need to strive to look like any particular example, especially some fabricated example like a model in a catalog, is just juvenile and condescending. What, is there a shortage of hotties? Real women aren't good enough for your internet porn-jaded asses?
It's all relative anyway. Have any of you ever seen a female celebrity without her makeup and in person, rather than in pictures taken by a $1,000 an hour photographer? At best, they look like any other hot girl you'd see at school or out in a club. Some of them aren't even attractive, most look just normal. Hell, even my fat pasty 230 lb ass would look good if I had a team of half a dozen professionals dedicating their workday to making me look good.
stuff like the IN SOVIET RUSSIA thing still allows for some creativity and I've seen some really funny one-liners based on that, but the "huh huh.. server overload... huh huh *devour cheetos*" shit stopped being funny to me about 15 seconds after I read the first one, years ago.
Oh.. and "geeks can't get girlfriends/get laid" jokes. Those go beyond bad humor into the world of self-fulfilling prophecy.
Your post hit me the wrong way, and I apologize for my harshness. I think.
However, what disgusted me so much was the idea that all women should try for the Victoria's Secret ideal. Do you have any idea what statements like that mean to women? You're saying that they're not good enough on their own. That they have to change their appearance to fit some man's plastic ideal. That their personalities and attitudes are completely irrelevant.
Remember (or learn now) the #1 rule of dating: No matter how hot she is, someone somewhere is sick of her shit.
The hot chicks look good in the bar. But what do you think they look like in the morning? Have you ever seen a famous female celebrity without her makeup and the lighting set just right? Telling a woman she should chase a false ideal is the height of arrogance and you should be ashamed.
Actually, no, I am intellectually opposed to the childish stories and half-assed animation. I said nothing about morals.
Stuff like Ghost in the Shell and... can't remember the name, it's the movie about the two kids that survived Hiroshima... are exceptions. They're as good as any live-action film - but to me anime is the rest of it that I've seen (and I've seen plenty of it hanging around with geeks) which is just Japanese boy gets robot suit or big fucking sword and blows up the guy with the other big fucking sword or robot suit.
It's a partly economic issue, actually. Not a laziness one. You can only afford to be thin and in shape if you make enought money to afford quality food. If you're poor and all you can afford is junk food, then you're going to get fat.
Saying that poor people should be thin in the USA is worthy of Marie Antoinette.
I quit watching Spike TV when they were running that Quizno's ad where the guy sucks a wolf's tit. I have no use for content from a company that would run that shit for money.
I know I'm going to get troll, flamebait, or redundant, or all three for saying this, but...
weren't the "your web server can't handle the slashdot load" jokes funny the first 10 billion times they were told? Why the fuck do you people still laugh at that worn out bullshit?
Yes, if you're linked to from a busy site like/. you're going to get hammered. Why the fuck is this funny?
And no, I have never been the victim of a slashdotting, I'm just sick to fuck of the first 100 comments on every story being "look at that, the web server burnt up, huh huh huh *drool* *slobber*".
You're telling a board full of geeks how to pick up women in bars? Most of us aren't going to have any luck with the kind of women that go to bars looking for hookups, period. They're looking for a certain shallow type of guy that provides escapism, not a real person. Why? Because they are shallow, too.
In these days of Mozilla, OpenOffice, and KDE I can't believe some of you shumcks are still harping on the bloat line. The pig nowdays is yer Linux Distro.
It's just another licensing scam. That's where the big money in the NFL is made.
The NFL Player's Association (the union) holds rights to the likenesses and personal information of the players. EA pays the NFLPA a sum of cash and they get to use the real players' names.
The NFL itself holds rights to the names and logos and information about the teams.
Various corporate sponsors own the rights to the names of the stadiums.
Some teams are whor^h^h^h^hselling their -names- to corporations, too. This year the Chicago Bears sold their rights to (IIRC) BankOne, so that anytime the Bears are talked about in the media, they're supposed to be referred to as "The Chicago Bears presented by BankOne" or "BankOne presents the Chicago Bears."
I'm not one of those glassy-eyed fans that thinks sports have ever been pure and untouched but this is just shameful. There is no end to some peoples' greed.
More proof that Bill Hicks wasn't a comedian, he was a lecturer and a pop philosopher.
We call those women bitches.
Any woman that's not too shallow to be worth your time is going to be very open minded about looks. Looks can be faked, personality can't be.
oh, I should have figured it out. Thanks.
haha, NSA Public Affairs... Do they do all their recruiting at Maytag stores?
how do you tell it that you're dead when you're, well, dead?
If computers become individuals under the law, then they can be charged with violating the law. How would the criminal code be adapted to computers?
If someone cracked and shut down a machine, would that be murder? Would relaying spam be rape?
You know, all of you guys who are talking about people who don't know about Firefox are forgetting that it was the same way with the old versions of Netscape.
I worked for an ISP in 1995. We had to provide software because almost everyone was running Windows 3.1, which had no TCP/IP stack. Since a lot of our customers still had 386s, here's the software suite that we put together:
- Trumpet Winsock
- Eudora (back when base Eudora was free)
- Mosaic
- WS_FTP
- a gopher client
- Free Agent (news reader)
EVERYONE hated Mosaic. That was usually the first complaint we got from a new customer. They had never heard of Netscape, at all. I can't count how many times I had to walk a noob through using WS_FTP to download Netscape 2.x from ftp[1..20].netscape.com.
maybe more like: Entrepreneur, Doctor, Lawyer. The most admired businessmen in america are the ones that are perceived to be 'self-made' - there are a huge number of people that believe that Bill Gates is wholly self-made and single-handedly created PCs.
so basically you're saying I have to be Japanese or a hardcore Otaku to 'get' it?
I'm 5'11. When I was 17 I weighed 175. I'm now 28 and I weighed 230 at the doctor's office today. Therefore, I'm in no position to condemn anyone for letting themselves go.
The fact is, there are thin women, and there are heavy women, downright fat women, and all points in between. Each one of them is a unique person, both in the good and bad ways. There's someone out there for everyone. To say that all women need to strive to look like any particular example, especially some fabricated example like a model in a catalog, is just juvenile and condescending. What, is there a shortage of hotties? Real women aren't good enough for your internet porn-jaded asses?
It's all relative anyway. Have any of you ever seen a female celebrity without her makeup and in person, rather than in pictures taken by a $1,000 an hour photographer? At best, they look like any other hot girl you'd see at school or out in a club. Some of them aren't even attractive, most look just normal. Hell, even my fat pasty 230 lb ass would look good if I had a team of half a dozen professionals dedicating their workday to making me look good.
I'd be more willing to believe you if you spelled Mohammed right.
Don't say it's an ethnic thing, either. Every Arab or Indian/Pakistani muslim I've known has spelled it Mohammed.
stuff like the IN SOVIET RUSSIA thing still allows for some creativity and I've seen some really funny one-liners based on that, but the "huh huh.. server overload... huh huh *devour cheetos*" shit stopped being funny to me about 15 seconds after I read the first one, years ago.
Oh.. and "geeks can't get girlfriends/get laid" jokes. Those go beyond bad humor into the world of self-fulfilling prophecy.
Your post hit me the wrong way, and I apologize for my harshness. I think.
However, what disgusted me so much was the idea that all women should try for the Victoria's Secret ideal. Do you have any idea what statements like that mean to women? You're saying that they're not good enough on their own. That they have to change their appearance to fit some man's plastic ideal. That their personalities and attitudes are completely irrelevant.
Remember (or learn now) the #1 rule of dating: No matter how hot she is, someone somewhere is sick of her shit.
The hot chicks look good in the bar. But what do you think they look like in the morning? Have you ever seen a famous female celebrity without her makeup and the lighting set just right? Telling a woman she should chase a false ideal is the height of arrogance and you should be ashamed.
Actually, no, I am intellectually opposed to the childish stories and half-assed animation. I said nothing about morals.
... can't remember the name, it's the movie about the two kids that survived Hiroshima... are exceptions. They're as good as any live-action film - but to me anime is the rest of it that I've seen (and I've seen plenty of it hanging around with geeks) which is just Japanese boy gets robot suit or big fucking sword and blows up the guy with the other big fucking sword or robot suit.
Stuff like Ghost in the Shell and
It's a partly economic issue, actually. Not a laziness one. You can only afford to be thin and in shape if you make enought money to afford quality food. If you're poor and all you can afford is junk food, then you're going to get fat.
Saying that poor people should be thin in the USA is worthy of Marie Antoinette.
takes a real badass to say that as an AC.
I quit watching Spike TV when they were running that Quizno's ad where the guy sucks a wolf's tit. I have no use for content from a company that would run that shit for money.
likewise. The existence of anime disgusts me.
A guy in a bar is shallow and looking strictly for a braggable piece of ass.
You, however, are a fucking pig. Kill yourself immediately.
I know I'm going to get troll, flamebait, or redundant, or all three for saying this, but...
/. you're going to get hammered. Why the fuck is this funny?
weren't the "your web server can't handle the slashdot load" jokes funny the first 10 billion times they were told? Why the fuck do you people still laugh at that worn out bullshit?
Yes, if you're linked to from a busy site like
And no, I have never been the victim of a slashdotting, I'm just sick to fuck of the first 100 comments on every story being "look at that, the web server burnt up, huh huh huh *drool* *slobber*".
You're telling a board full of geeks how to pick up women in bars? Most of us aren't going to have any luck with the kind of women that go to bars looking for hookups, period. They're looking for a certain shallow type of guy that provides escapism, not a real person. Why? Because they are shallow, too.
In these days of Mozilla, OpenOffice, and KDE I can't believe some of you shumcks are still harping on the bloat line. The pig nowdays is yer Linux Distro.
mod this guy up. OSS is not immune to bloat.
Talk about misleading stats...
The Windows XP code base includes all of the extraneous crap that gets bundled with and on top of the kernel.
The "Linux" code base just includes the kernel.
It's just another licensing scam. That's where the big money in the NFL is made.
The NFL Player's Association (the union) holds rights to the likenesses and personal information of the players. EA pays the NFLPA a sum of cash and they get to use the real players' names.
The NFL itself holds rights to the names and logos and information about the teams.
Various corporate sponsors own the rights to the names of the stadiums.
Some teams are whor^h^h^h^hselling their -names- to corporations, too. This year the Chicago Bears sold their rights to (IIRC) BankOne, so that anytime the Bears are talked about in the media, they're supposed to be referred to as "The Chicago Bears presented by BankOne" or "BankOne presents the Chicago Bears."
I'm not one of those glassy-eyed fans that thinks sports have ever been pure and untouched but this is just shameful. There is no end to some peoples' greed.
I know :-D