What are you talking about? Your economical situation is NOT caused by loans but by your crappy economy that is not competitive with US or Western Europe.
It is simple as that. It was the case with Taiwan and other Asian tigers but these countries managed to built strong and powerful industries and now are decades ahead of Brazil.
Try to follow their example , it will do you more good than continuous bitching at US and other western countries.
"yet you went all the distance to build nukes that could end the world. Interesting."
I don't know if you are aware of the fact that Soviet Union was extremely dangerous opponent and we had not much choice but to keep up our military ready for a confrontation with them.
We did not end this world, did we ?
"interested in exploiting poor countries."
Please, stop this bullshit. Are you saying that Sun, Microsoft or IBM are exploiting anyone?
"only think that the world wants to be like you. "
Well, not everyone in the world but there are many, many more people trying to get into US than it trying to enter Brazil.
People vote with their feet and in this contest we way ahead of you.
"Yes, very simple. So simple we are paying interests 100 years old (literally, no exageration here), because if we say "we payed enough already", a banker says "no, I don't think so". Are you suggesting we stop paying, then?"
Please, just follow original agreement.
"What you said is as silly as me saying that your regime has created rightists like some tele-evangelists we see in the US. "
What regime ? What rightists?
In US you can preach anything you want,it is called freedom.
On the other hand , none of this stuff is mandatory and if I don't care, nobody forces me to support or even listen to these people.
Obviously you don't know shit about this country.
"Oh, we are leftists? Should the US bomb us, too? "
Who said that ?
You gonna "bomb" yourself into soviet style "age" if you continue to follow your leftist bullshit.
"you are so closed inside the US you forgot how the world outside is."
I wasn't even born in US. I am here since 1992 and I am 30 years old. Draw your own conclusions.
"you are so closed inside the US you forgot how the world outside is."
Your envy of our economical position and our social system is very transparent.
Furthermore you do think this attack was justified and inside you rejoice from what had happened in NYC.
No, it was blackmail.
Despite the fact that KDE was free software , fsf refused to declare it us such unless every piece of code there ( including Qt over which KDE folks had no say) went GPL.
The point is, it was not about freedom - it was way to handicap KDE against Gnome using GPL.
Technically KDE has no say about Qt since they have no formal relation with Trolltech (which is strictly for profit entity.)
I think fsf declared their own little jihad against KDE and Qt to get them to switch to the only acceptable license.
It was pure blackmail against folks who, and everyone in Stallman camp knew that, were writing FREE software, just as free as any GNU package.
This is very typical to all "revolutionary" movements. As soon as they get bit of publicity, internal struggles begin.
Freedom or no freedom, human nature is always the same.
Well, just look at the kind of problems KDE folks have with Stallman and GPL.
I doubt anyone could claim that KDE was not free but YET they had so many problems with supposedly "free" GPL.
Fuck that. It is simply not worth it.
"It rubs in the face of the poor people the whole "I can and you can't" thing."
Oh really. So if I spend 5 years studying to get a good job, the fact that I can drive Ferrari it is slap in your poor ass face?
Screwed capitalism ha?
Do you know anything better? Please, show me a single country that does not follow that "screwed" model yet it can compare with Western Europe or US?
Can you?
"Some goes to waste, because the US can waste."
Since both, US and Brazil started pretty much from the same level why do you think we are where we are and you are one of the poorest countries in the world.
Do you think we had direct line to some God or something?
No, because we worked hard.
"We have very active racism in Mid-east (Israel against Muslins). "
Hmm, what about all these Jews being killed by crazy Muslims?
Oh, that doesn't count.... of course.
You are so fucking biased it is not even funny.
PS.
Who are you to give us lessons how to run our country?
Come back when you are able to feed your own population without killing homeless children.
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What the fuck are you talking about ?
Innocent people ?
I you have a killer who is being cared for by third party people who are aware of his activities yet keep on helping him out, would you consider them innocent ?
It is not about people living next to that killer, it is about people who live with him and support him.
You are preaching to me about tolerance?
When was the last time US forced Afghans to adopt our values?
We might bitch about it but do not force them to do anything.
Why do you accuse us of lack of tolerance ? Did we blow up anything in Afghanistan yet or was it the other way around: bunch of idiotic Muslims showed up here and killed 5000 people?
"The US can't just go into Afghanistan and execute Osama bin Laden and then hide their"
Where is your evidence they are going to do something like this?
Anyway, Bin Laden has been already proven by to be involved in previous terrorists attacks and if only option to prevent any further attacks is to kill his ass then so be it.
"Searching for the truth without blind following of what the government tells us. "
Why do you assume I blindly follow anyone?
"It definitely isn't substantial enough to put the finger on Osama bin Laden."
Hell it is. He was already on "wanted list" for years because of his previous involvement in supporting anti-US terrorism.
This issue was decided by US courts and according to our law he IS guilty.
We just weren't looking for him hard enough.
Now it will change.
"The only difference is the level that is deemed acceptable. "
Doh !
That is what I am talking about. She has much greater options here than in Afghanistan. It is called freedom, you know.
BTW.
Even if she goes around naked, she might get slapped with some fine as opposed to being stoned or flogged to death. A big difference if you ask me.
"Also, why don't the US attack countries like Saudi. "
US is not attacking Afghanistan because of their idiotic laws.
SA is considered backward and almost as pathetic as Afghanistan but we do recognize that but among bad boys SA is the best option for now.
"Consequently they disagreed with others. So why was their freedom of speech taken away?"
Who took their freedom away ?
US governmet or ISP ?
You know, if I host your site and I disagree with what you put there I have every right to take your site down. You have still choice of starting your own ISP and hosting whatever you want there.
That is something that people in most of Islamic countries can't even dream about.
"But Cowboy Bush is shouting out "Dead or Alive". "
Fuck this. They attacked our country and we have every right to pursue guilty parties without bothering with neutral parties etc...
"I know someone who still has the original clip on video. "
I am more inclined to trust BBC and other news agencies then some bunch of dictators.
Simple as that.
Is that so?
So all this talk about bad neighborhood and all these stories I keep hearing about 12 year old kids being killed on Chicago south side in gang gunfire is pretty much propaganda.
You know what... I don't give a fuck, my neighborhood is very safe.
If it is all fantasy then why bother, everything it pitchy.
Please, it was Gore who started going that dangerous road.
His party shows no respect for our constitution claiming that suddenly it is important that he got majority of popular vote.
BTW.
In raw numbers Bush got more votes than Clinton ever did yet no one denied him mandate.
"bush is a terrible president"
No, Clinton was a terrible president and Gore would be even worse.
At least I have some arguments to support my view of Clinton years while you rely purely on your dislike of W.Bush.
Oh come on.
You are bitter cause your dude lost and even people intimately familiar with various methods of fixing elections (Daley) couldn't help him with that one ( not that they did not try.)
I was not robbed of due process, as you claim, but I was spared countless excuses by sore loser who was willing to throw country in disarray to get his ass in Washington.
BTW.
W.Bush is showing more restrain than Clinton who was more than willing to bomb people in minute notice ( whenever he was in trouble, that is)
US government role is to advance interests of our nation and NOT avoid being "hypocritical" or being righteous to others etc...
Sometimes, our interests are simply incompatible with what other folks want and we end up with some sort of conflict.
Sometimes it is prudent to avoid it and sometimes it is not.
What are you criticizing are occasional lapses of judgment and not deliberate long standing policy of pissing of as many people as possible.
There is no need to fundamentally change anything.
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These are toys we are talking about here! /. ?
Come one people, you are not 9 years old anymore.
Why is this even here on
You are completely uninformed and biased individual.
Please, read something about US and its constitution before you accuse us.
Case closed.
"about opression."
What are you talking about? Your economical situation is NOT caused by loans but by your crappy economy that is not competitive with US or Western Europe.
It is simple as that. It was the case with Taiwan and other Asian tigers but these countries managed to built strong and powerful industries and now are decades ahead of Brazil.
Try to follow their example , it will do you more good than continuous bitching at US and other western countries.
"yet you went all the distance to build nukes that could end the world. Interesting."
I don't know if you are aware of the fact that Soviet Union was extremely dangerous opponent and we had not much choice but to keep up our military ready for a confrontation with them.
We did not end this world, did we ?
"interested in exploiting poor countries."
Please, stop this bullshit. Are you saying that Sun, Microsoft or IBM are exploiting anyone?
"only think that the world wants to be like you. "
Well, not everyone in the world but there are many, many more people trying to get into US than it trying to enter Brazil.
People vote with their feet and in this contest we way ahead of you.
"Yes, very simple. So simple we are paying interests 100 years old (literally, no exageration here), because if we say "we payed enough already", a banker says "no, I don't think so". Are you suggesting we stop paying, then?"
Please, just follow original agreement.
"What you said is as silly as me saying that your regime has created rightists like some tele-evangelists we see in the US. "
What regime ? What rightists?
In US you can preach anything you want,it is called freedom.
On the other hand , none of this stuff is mandatory and if I don't care, nobody forces me to support or even listen to these people.
Obviously you don't know shit about this country.
"Oh, we are leftists? Should the US bomb us, too? "
Who said that ?
You gonna "bomb" yourself into soviet style "age" if you continue to follow your leftist bullshit.
"you are so closed inside the US you forgot how the world outside is."
I wasn't even born in US. I am here since 1992 and I am 30 years old. Draw your own conclusions.
"you are so closed inside the US you forgot how the world outside is."
Your envy of our economical position and our social system is very transparent.
Furthermore you do think this attack was justified and inside you rejoice from what had happened in NYC.
No, it was blackmail.
Despite the fact that KDE was free software , fsf refused to declare it us such unless every piece of code there ( including Qt over which KDE folks had no say) went GPL.
The point is, it was not about freedom - it was way to handicap KDE against Gnome using GPL.
"is exactly the same thing"
... oh, and we do enjoy sane economical system as opposed to some leftist regimes you have in your state.
No, your post indicated something else.
"I would feed my population if I didn't have to spend more money paying interests to US banks. "
If you borrow money you shall return that money.
If you are unable to repay, DO NOT borrow.
Couldn't be any simpler, could it ?
"you have comes from your sweat, isn't it?"
Yeah, exactly
Technically KDE has no say about Qt since they have no formal relation with Trolltech (which is strictly for profit entity.)
I think fsf declared their own little jihad against KDE and Qt to get them to switch to the only acceptable license.
It was pure blackmail against folks who, and everyone in Stallman camp knew that, were writing FREE software, just as free as any GNU package.
This is very typical to all "revolutionary" movements. As soon as they get bit of publicity, internal struggles begin.
Freedom or no freedom, human nature is always the same.
Well, just look at the kind of problems KDE folks have with Stallman and GPL.
I doubt anyone could claim that KDE was not free but YET they had so many problems with supposedly "free" GPL.
Fuck that. It is simply not worth it.
That is what Lenin said about future economy in former USSR.
Sure, there was an economy there but would you want to live in that kind of economy ?
And they are free do to that.
It is called freedom.
"It rubs in the face of the poor people the whole "I can and you can't" thing."
.... of course.
Oh really. So if I spend 5 years studying to get a good job, the fact that I can drive Ferrari it is slap in your poor ass face?
Screwed capitalism ha?
Do you know anything better? Please, show me a single country that does not follow that "screwed" model yet it can compare with Western Europe or US?
Can you?
"Some goes to waste, because the US can waste."
Since both, US and Brazil started pretty much from the same level why do you think we are where we are and you are one of the poorest countries in the world.
Do you think we had direct line to some God or something?
No, because we worked hard.
"We have very active racism in Mid-east (Israel against Muslins). "
Hmm, what about all these Jews being killed by crazy Muslims?
Oh, that doesn't count
You are so fucking biased it is not even funny.
PS.
Who are you to give us lessons how to run our country?
Come back when you are able to feed your own population without killing homeless children.
What the fuck are you talking about ?
Innocent people ?
I you have a killer who is being cared for by third party people who are aware of his activities yet keep on helping him out, would you consider them innocent ?
It is not about people living next to that killer, it is about people who live with him and support him.
What the hell are you talking about ?
I mean so called rogue nations run by various sorts of regimes.
Fitted to a tripod it becoms medium or heavy machine gun.
But idiots like you woudn;t know anyway.
"who don't want ANY sort of war, much less a NEW kind of war. "
Well, you don't have a choice. This "new kind of war" was declared upon you by others.
You are preaching to me about tolerance?
When was the last time US forced Afghans to adopt our values?
We might bitch about it but do not force them to do anything.
Why do you accuse us of lack of tolerance ? Did we blow up anything in Afghanistan yet or was it the other way around: bunch of idiotic Muslims showed up here and killed 5000 people?
"The US can't just go into Afghanistan and execute Osama bin Laden and then hide their"
Where is your evidence they are going to do something like this?
Anyway, Bin Laden has been already proven by to be involved in previous terrorists attacks and if only option to prevent any further attacks is to kill his ass then so be it.
"Searching for the truth without blind following of what the government tells us. "
Why do you assume I blindly follow anyone?
"It definitely isn't substantial enough to put the finger on Osama bin Laden."
Hell it is. He was already on "wanted list" for years because of his previous involvement in supporting anti-US terrorism.
This issue was decided by US courts and according to our law he IS guilty.
We just weren't looking for him hard enough.
Now it will change.
"The only difference is the level that is deemed acceptable. "
...
Doh !
That is what I am talking about. She has much greater options here than in Afghanistan. It is called freedom, you know.
BTW.
Even if she goes around naked, she might get slapped with some fine as opposed to being stoned or flogged to death. A big difference if you ask me.
"Also, why don't the US attack countries like Saudi. "
US is not attacking Afghanistan because of their idiotic laws.
SA is considered backward and almost as pathetic as Afghanistan but we do recognize that but among bad boys SA is the best option for now.
"Consequently they disagreed with others. So why was their freedom of speech taken away?"
Who took their freedom away ?
US governmet or ISP ?
You know, if I host your site and I disagree with what you put there I have every right to take your site down. You have still choice of starting your own ISP and hosting whatever you want there.
That is something that people in most of Islamic countries can't even dream about.
"But Cowboy Bush is shouting out "Dead or Alive". "
Fuck this. They attacked our country and we have every right to pursue guilty parties without bothering with neutral parties etc
"I know someone who still has the original clip on video. "
I am more inclined to trust BBC and other news agencies then some bunch of dictators.
Simple as that.
Heh.
He mentioned elected oficials and "unelected" president.
Nice try.
Yeah, it is always easu to call for a change.
Itr is much harder to articulate what exactly is that we want to change and to what .
Yeah,yeah...
And most criminals claim they are absolutely innocent anyway.
Is that so?
... I don't give a fuck, my neighborhood is very safe.
So all this talk about bad neighborhood and all these stories I keep hearing about 12 year old kids being killed on Chicago south side in gang gunfire is pretty much propaganda.
You know what
If it is all fantasy then why bother, everything it pitchy.
Please, it was Gore who started going that dangerous road.
His party shows no respect for our constitution claiming that suddenly it is important that he got majority of popular vote.
BTW.
In raw numbers Bush got more votes than Clinton ever did yet no one denied him mandate.
"bush is a terrible president"
No, Clinton was a terrible president and Gore would be even worse.
At least I have some arguments to support my view of Clinton years while you rely purely on your dislike of W.Bush.
"he was appointed by the supreme court in a series of legal "
Numerous recounts showed he actually did win.
"creative, to say the least. "
Not more than creativity displayed by Gore team.
Oh come on.
You are bitter cause your dude lost and even people intimately familiar with various methods of fixing elections (Daley) couldn't help him with that one ( not that they did not try.)
I was not robbed of due process, as you claim, but I was spared countless excuses by sore loser who was willing to throw country in disarray to get his ass in Washington.
BTW.
W.Bush is showing more restrain than Clinton who was more than willing to bomb people in minute notice ( whenever he was in trouble, that is)
US government role is to advance interests of our nation and NOT avoid being "hypocritical" or being righteous to others etc ...
Sometimes, our interests are simply incompatible with what other folks want and we end up with some sort of conflict.
Sometimes it is prudent to avoid it and sometimes it is not.
What are you criticizing are occasional lapses of judgment and not deliberate long standing policy of pissing of as many people as possible.
There is no need to fundamentally change anything.