How does SPF handle roaming users? For example, if I'm a salesman and am in company X's building (not my own), how do I send mail as myself to a technician? Won't my SMTP be coming from the wrong SMTP server?
Yes, but your email will be labled as "from" your own domain (how you authenticate to the SMTP server is outside the scope of SPF) - so then the receiving server will check with your domain whether it can acept the mail. In most cases, this will be a "no" - unless your sysadmin has thought about this and explicitly said "it's ok for domain X's mail servers to send mail from my domain" or "allow any server as long as the mail is digitally signed".
Note that you would usually connect to your own SMTP server to send that message since you don't have credentials to use company X's mail server and we can assume that it's not an open relay.
The subject of this interview works for, and is paid by, SUSE - which belongs to Novell: When I started working for SUSE I was still attending University but over time I got more interested about the work I was doing on linux, plus I could make a living thanks to linux while I didn't get any money by studying more years at University;).
Your pov is a pretty common misconception: big business profiting from the work of hundreds of thousands of idealistic but naive developpers. The truth of the matter is that big business wants - needs - enterprise features in open source software, and you're going to get there a heck of a lot faster by paying somebody to develop them than you are waiting for some guy to decide that he personally *really needs* to support 32 parallel processors.
Not only that, but SPF also seems more flexible. Domainkeys seems limited to making sure that the from header was not forged and that the SMTP machine used is on that domain's approved sender's list. Don't forget that SPF allows you to say "any machine may send mail from my domain as long as the mail is digitally signed" - or "any machine with an MX record in my domain may send mail for that domain" (which you could update withoput having to regenerate keys, etc)
In short - SPF looks like the more elegant solution.
Dont worry, the new eastern european EU member have ample supply of cheap workers than are fluent in german, french and other languages. Not really accurate - these countries have an ample supply of relatively cheaper workers, some of whom are fluent in German, but relatively less in French or even English. In the short term, we're more likely to see them applying for jobs in western europe (where, btw, they still need a work permit) rather than have the jobs go to them. And for every job "lost" by a western european to an eastern european, a matching job will be destroyed in eastern europe to the profit of companies in western europe (like how are small family run dairy farms in poland going to compete with french or italian industrial dairies?) Finally, this gap will fill in much faster than the US/Indian gap will - look at how fast eastern germany was assimilated after reunification.
Spanish and Italian may not be required as these countries already have their own underpaid workers in the poorer parts of the country. I haven't heard about the hordes of cheap programmers in spain and italy - heck, i know people working in IT in spain who make good money and enjoy a good life. Average income in southern europe has been lower than in northern europe for a long time, and yet the jobs (at least the IT jobs we're talking about) haven't moved south to date - why expect this to change?
Not so many thus far (except the UK). Not a lot of people in India speak French, German, Spanish, Italian, etc etc. It's kind of ironic, given that the cost of hiring people in places like Belgium and Germany is HUGE - much much higher than in the US or UK. Probably a business opportunity there helping employers outsource these jobs.
I have never thought about that, so thanks for the brain jolt. In my job (contract developer for medium-large company), i'm more likely to wind up arguing with the marketing guy who thinks "free software" = "people working for you for free" or the development manager who still thinks "open source means no support" than the accounting guy.
Over the last year to eighteen months, i've seen the words "open source" become more buzzy around here, but no real understanding of what they mean. Like i like to say: "it's Internet all over again".
Forget the money, send the patches you had to write.
Open source shouldn't have to count on people "playing nice" - it's about enlightened self interest: sharing your patches decreases your costs in the long run, because you can apply other people's patches more easily.
Convincing MBA weilding bosses of this is more than half the fight.
Translation of your post: Waaah Waaah Waaah! I want movies for free! Waah Waaah Waaah!
Pay attention: i already HAVE movies for free, and i don't see that changing. In the fight between old economy dinosaurs and technology, my bet is on the technology: how many different programs for ripping audio and video have come out since 1998? How much easier to do these things has it gotten since 1998? How many as yet uncracked copy protection schemes have come out since 1998?
get the picture?
Saying that people making backup copies of their legaly bought DVDs is a clear and present danger to the content industry is like saying that the drug war's number one threat is people growing pot in their appartment for their own personal use.
My point is that the MPAA is trying to attack the can when they should be focusing on the may. Technology is not the problem. Even if the MPAA could have every DVD ripping and copying program in the world banned tomorrow, it would have absolutely NO effect on piracy, because the people who really pirate run off tens of thousands of copies using the exact same technology as legitimate publishers in countries where they are effectively beyond the reach of the law. In Russia, where nine out of ten copies of a DVD are pirates, the movie studios drop their prices to 10$ a DVD to compete, whereas in the US, where probably far less than one copy out of ten is pirated, the MPAA spends time and energy trying to stop people from making personal copies of the DVDs they BOUGHT for 20$ to 30$.
wtf?
The MPAA needs to stop running around like chicken little, crying about technology ennabling people to do things they don't approve of, because that's a given and they aren't going to get anywhere with it - instead, it's time to screw on the thinking caps and figure out how to make money in the new technology world.
Maybe if you understood basic copyright law you wouldn't look so retarded.
Hey there, Mr. Valenti, nice of you to join us!
Let's just go over some simple facts that you seem to be having a problem with: no matter what your lawyers say, you do not *control* anything - i have the technical means to copy your movies illegaly, either onto blank DVD discs or my HDD - at a cost of pennies. Not only that, but it gets easier and easier to do this every year: at the current state of the art, a ten year old could do it quite easily. Understand that i'm not talking about what i *may* do, i'm talking about what i *can* do - i'm sure your english teacher explained the difference in elementary school. Now play nice or we'll just take your toys away.
Gibson invented edgy, hip, and cool science fiction? And you can say this even though you have read Philip K. Dick? *shakes head* Absolutely - but i'm talking from the other side. I was the kid reading "the game players of titan" and "the man in the high castle" and "Lies, Inc" during recess. Tell people you're reading "Do androids dream of electric sheep?" and they'll look at you funny - tell them it's "Blade Runner" and all of a sudden they get it. In a way, Philip K. Dick's science-fiction was about the day after tomorrow of yesterday. Gibson showed us the tomorrow of today.
Stephenson's Hiro Protagonist = Stephenson's Sangamon Taylor, in much the same way that Han Solo is Indiana Jones (yes yes, it's all true). Don't get me wrong - i loved Snow Crash. I still smile whenever somebody says "everybody listens to reason". I loved the whole sumerian neural hacking thing. And the guys with MAFIA written on their jackets. I can do a pretty good bit about the Deliverator's car from memory ("Starts like a bad day. Stops on a peseta.")
But by the time i read Snow Crash, a space had been made in my mind for it to fit into, and that space was made by Neuromancer and Count Zero. The short story collection Burning Chrome was very good as well - esp. The Winter Market and New Rose Hotel.
At the end of the day, this is just a discussion of personal preference, so what the hey: live and let live, right? I've got to say i must agree with one other poster in this thread: no matter how much i like both these authors, i think i'd run out of votes loooooong before their names came up.
ok, actually, no flamewar - but i can't agree with you. Don't get me wrong, i love Stephenson's work, i've read everything he's ever written - even the stuff that really wasn't that good like "Interface" and "The Big U". William Gibson invented a whole genre - or, if he didn't invent it, then he dragged it kicking and screaming into the light of day. After growing up on Asimov, Bradbury, Dick, Herbert, Heinlein, Simmons, and many more to numerous to mention, reading Gibson's "Neuromancer" woke me up to a whole new world of science-fiction - edgy, hip, cool. Personally i think his later work went from worse to worse (Idoru, All tomorrow's parties, Pattern recognition) but Snow Crash could not exist in a world without "Neuromancer". And, in my own very humble opinion: "Virtual Light" is a stroke of near genius: a book with almost no plot whatsoever that keeps you rivited through the descriptions of the author.
In fact, enough of this, i'm off to find my copy of Neuromancer and reread it right now.
not to mention: what's the difference? Google already tweaks to penalize any abuse of their system. Their business depends on delivering the best links from the user's point of view.
Actually, Slashdot stuff usually winds up in the news section (this article is already there) rather than the web section of google. Guess they bought that "news for nerds" baloney.
true. then again, you can download the acrobat reader software for free - although i think there are also free excel and word "viewers" available from microsoft.
How, exactly, is he any more liable than the millions who run insecure, unpatched machines? That's ridiculous - people who don't wear bullet proof vests aren't "as liable" as the people who shoot them.
If you leave the doors to your house open, and a large neon sign over the threshold saying 'WELCOME', you'll be *damned* lucky if your insurer would pay up. No, but you could press charges for burglary if somebody came into your house and stole something. Insurance is a matter of commercial contracts - we're talking about the law here.
If he hadn't exploited it, someone else would have, and the result would have been the same. No, if someone else had exploited it, then the gentleman under discussion here most probably wouldn't be in police custody facing criminal charges right now.
The reponsibility lies with microsoft, for creating shite software, with inherent vulnerabilities, and with the users, for not bothering to have any kind of protection. What kind of a world do you live in where the people who write and send out a virus are not liable for the damage it causes?
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If it's really possible to grab numbers from a crowd, this one could get expensive for them.
Just this once, let's give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that this thought may have crossed their minds, mkay? Otherwise, patent some kind of RFID blocking wallet and make a fortune. I can see this technology taking off - consumers will like the idea of "magic wand" payment methods. And it's good to see new technology like this, because it keeps things interesting for the crooks trying to abuse it - wouldn't want them to get too bored.
MS Office has suffered from compatibility problems in the past between versions - i remember having to ask customers/vendors to please "save as Word 6" because we hadn't upgraded to Office 98 yet. If there's one format that truely deserves the label of "a standard in the business community" then it's PDF: when business users exchange documents they're exchanging digitized paper meant for reading. Once you start talking about exchanging the data in the document (like when you import that spreadsheet into your database) then you're not talking business users, you're talking developers (hopefully for you, or else prepare for the frustration of the guy who sends you a report that's "almost" in the right format). As for this particular product: about time. They might not post on Slashdot, but there are hordes of people inside every medium to large company that spend their whole working day in front of Excel (and we call them Excel jockeys). Visicalc was a big factor in the early success of the Apple 2. Lotus 1-2-3 did the same for DOS based PCs.
Well, the problem is that if you live in the west and you are middle class or above, then you are already "at the top" when compared with a Pakistani kid who gets paid 4$/day to strip derelict supertankers by hand. One of the things about western culture is that we always look at the people who have more than us: the super rich, celebrities, etc. It's part opiate, part promise: if you work hard then you can have a little taste of that good life too. What it also does is make us less likely to not notice the people around us who have it less good than we do - and not just in far away countries. You should check out a book called "Nickel and Dimed" by this woman who went "under cover" to work in minimum wage jobs around america. Deeply scary stuff.
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New hiring seems to be concentrated in Bangalore.
Are these people in Bangalore employees of your company or are they employees of a subcontractor, and does that make a difference?
How does SPF handle roaming users? For example, if I'm a salesman and am in company X's building (not my own), how do I send mail as myself to a technician? Won't my SMTP be coming from the wrong SMTP server?
Yes, but your email will be labled as "from" your own domain (how you authenticate to the SMTP server is outside the scope of SPF) - so then the receiving server will check with your domain whether it can acept the mail. In most cases, this will be a "no" - unless your sysadmin has thought about this and explicitly said "it's ok for domain X's mail servers to send mail from my domain" or "allow any server as long as the mail is digitally signed".
Note that you would usually connect to your own SMTP server to send that message since you don't have credentials to use company X's mail server and we can assume that it's not an open relay.
The subject of this interview works for, and is paid by, SUSE - which belongs to Novell: When I started working for SUSE I was still attending University but over time I got more interested about the work I was doing on linux, plus I could make a living thanks to linux while I didn't get any money by studying more years at University ;).
Your pov is a pretty common misconception: big business profiting from the work of hundreds of thousands of idealistic but naive developpers. The truth of the matter is that big business wants - needs - enterprise features in open source software, and you're going to get there a heck of a lot faster by paying somebody to develop them than you are waiting for some guy to decide that he personally *really needs* to support 32 parallel processors.
Not only that, but SPF also seems more flexible. Domainkeys seems limited to making sure that the from header was not forged and that the SMTP machine used is on that domain's approved sender's list. Don't forget that SPF allows you to say "any machine may send mail from my domain as long as the mail is digitally signed" - or "any machine with an MX record in my domain may send mail for that domain" (which you could update withoput having to regenerate keys, etc)
In short - SPF looks like the more elegant solution.
Nobody really expects a terrabyte of storage do they?
They do now.
Dont worry, the new eastern european EU member have ample supply of cheap workers than are fluent in german, french and other languages.
Not really accurate - these countries have an ample supply of relatively cheaper workers, some of whom are fluent in German, but relatively less in French or even English. In the short term, we're more likely to see them applying for jobs in western europe (where, btw, they still need a work permit) rather than have the jobs go to them. And for every job "lost" by a western european to an eastern european, a matching job will be destroyed in eastern europe to the profit of companies in western europe (like how are small family run dairy farms in poland going to compete with french or italian industrial dairies?) Finally, this gap will fill in much faster than the US/Indian gap will - look at how fast eastern germany was assimilated after reunification.
Spanish and Italian may not be required as these countries already have their own underpaid workers in the poorer parts of the country.
I haven't heard about the hordes of cheap programmers in spain and italy - heck, i know people working in IT in spain who make good money and enjoy a good life. Average income in southern europe has been lower than in northern europe for a long time, and yet the jobs (at least the IT jobs we're talking about) haven't moved south to date - why expect this to change?
Yeah, what about European jobs?
Not so many thus far (except the UK). Not a lot of people in India speak French, German, Spanish, Italian, etc etc. It's kind of ironic, given that the cost of hiring people in places like Belgium and Germany is HUGE - much much higher than in the US or UK. Probably a business opportunity there helping employers outsource these jobs.
I have never thought about that, so thanks for the brain jolt. In my job (contract developer for medium-large company), i'm more likely to wind up arguing with the marketing guy who thinks "free software" = "people working for you for free" or the development manager who still thinks "open source means no support" than the accounting guy.
Over the last year to eighteen months, i've seen the words "open source" become more buzzy around here, but no real understanding of what they mean. Like i like to say: "it's Internet all over again".
Forget the money, send the patches you had to write.
Open source shouldn't have to count on people "playing nice" - it's about enlightened self interest: sharing your patches decreases your costs in the long run, because you can apply other people's patches more easily.
Convincing MBA weilding bosses of this is more than half the fight.
Translation of your post: Waaah Waaah Waaah! I want movies for free! Waah Waaah Waaah!
Pay attention: i already HAVE movies for free, and i don't see that changing. In the fight between old economy dinosaurs and technology, my bet is on the technology: how many different programs for ripping audio and video have come out since 1998? How much easier to do these things has it gotten since 1998? How many as yet uncracked copy protection schemes have come out since 1998?
get the picture?
Saying that people making backup copies of their legaly bought DVDs is a clear and present danger to the content industry is like saying that the drug war's number one threat is people growing pot in their appartment for their own personal use.
My point is that the MPAA is trying to attack the can when they should be focusing on the may. Technology is not the problem. Even if the MPAA could have every DVD ripping and copying program in the world banned tomorrow, it would have absolutely NO effect on piracy, because the people who really pirate run off tens of thousands of copies using the exact same technology as legitimate publishers in countries where they are effectively beyond the reach of the law. In Russia, where nine out of ten copies of a DVD are pirates, the movie studios drop their prices to 10$ a DVD to compete, whereas in the US, where probably far less than one copy out of ten is pirated, the MPAA spends time and energy trying to stop people from making personal copies of the DVDs they BOUGHT for 20$ to 30$.
wtf?
The MPAA needs to stop running around like chicken little, crying about technology ennabling people to do things they don't approve of, because that's a given and they aren't going to get anywhere with it - instead, it's time to screw on the thinking caps and figure out how to make money in the new technology world.
Maybe if you understood basic copyright law you wouldn't look so retarded.
Hey there, Mr. Valenti, nice of you to join us!
Let's just go over some simple facts that you seem to be having a problem with: no matter what your lawyers say, you do not *control* anything - i have the technical means to copy your movies illegaly, either onto blank DVD discs or my HDD - at a cost of pennies. Not only that, but it gets easier and easier to do this every year: at the current state of the art, a ten year old could do it quite easily. Understand that i'm not talking about what i *may* do, i'm talking about what i *can* do - i'm sure your english teacher explained the difference in elementary school. Now play nice or we'll just take your toys away.
Well yes, except that you did not have the means to drive around the corner and get the car copied.
OTOH, these guys are competeing with 0.00$ per song. They want us to be customers instead of thieves, they'd better look up "customer friendly".
Porkchops. (Homer J. Simpson)
Gibson invented edgy, hip, and cool science fiction? And you can say this even though you have read Philip K. Dick? *shakes head*
Absolutely - but i'm talking from the other side. I was the kid reading "the game players of titan" and "the man in the high castle" and "Lies, Inc" during recess. Tell people you're reading "Do androids dream of electric sheep?" and they'll look at you funny - tell them it's "Blade Runner" and all of a sudden they get it. In a way, Philip K. Dick's science-fiction was about the day after tomorrow of yesterday. Gibson showed us the tomorrow of today.
Stephenson's Hiro Protagonist = Stephenson's Sangamon Taylor, in much the same way that Han Solo is Indiana Jones (yes yes, it's all true). Don't get me wrong - i loved Snow Crash. I still smile whenever somebody says "everybody listens to reason". I loved the whole sumerian neural hacking thing. And the guys with MAFIA written on their jackets. I can do a pretty good bit about the Deliverator's car from memory ("Starts like a bad day. Stops on a peseta.")
But by the time i read Snow Crash, a space had been made in my mind for it to fit into, and that space was made by Neuromancer and Count Zero. The short story collection Burning Chrome was very good as well - esp. The Winter Market and New Rose Hotel.
At the end of the day, this is just a discussion of personal preference, so what the hey: live and let live, right? I've got to say i must agree with one other poster in this thread: no matter how much i like both these authors, i think i'd run out of votes loooooong before their names came up.
heathen, prepare for flamewar!
ok, actually, no flamewar - but i can't agree with you. Don't get me wrong, i love Stephenson's work, i've read everything he's ever written - even the stuff that really wasn't that good like "Interface" and "The Big U". William Gibson invented a whole genre - or, if he didn't invent it, then he dragged it kicking and screaming into the light of day. After growing up on Asimov, Bradbury, Dick, Herbert, Heinlein, Simmons, and many more to numerous to mention, reading Gibson's "Neuromancer" woke me up to a whole new world of science-fiction - edgy, hip, cool. Personally i think his later work went from worse to worse (Idoru, All tomorrow's parties, Pattern recognition) but Snow Crash could not exist in a world without "Neuromancer". And, in my own very humble opinion: "Virtual Light" is a stroke of near genius: a book with almost no plot whatsoever that keeps you rivited through the descriptions of the author.
In fact, enough of this, i'm off to find my copy of Neuromancer and reread it right now.
paper... and faxes...
*shudders*
not to mention: what's the difference? Google already tweaks to penalize any abuse of their system. Their business depends on delivering the best links from the user's point of view.
Actually, Slashdot stuff usually winds up in the news section (this article is already there) rather than the web section of google. Guess they bought that "news for nerds" baloney.
true. then again, you can download the acrobat reader software for free - although i think there are also free excel and word "viewers" available from microsoft.
How, exactly, is he any more liable than the millions who run insecure, unpatched machines?
That's ridiculous - people who don't wear bullet proof vests aren't "as liable" as the people who shoot them.
If you leave the doors to your house open, and a large neon sign over the threshold saying 'WELCOME', you'll be *damned* lucky if your insurer would pay up.
No, but you could press charges for burglary if somebody came into your house and stole something. Insurance is a matter of commercial contracts - we're talking about the law here.
If he hadn't exploited it, someone else would have, and the result would have been the same.
No, if someone else had exploited it, then the gentleman under discussion here most probably wouldn't be in police custody facing criminal charges right now.
The reponsibility lies with microsoft, for creating shite software, with inherent vulnerabilities, and with the users, for not bothering to have any kind of protection.
What kind of a world do you live in where the people who write and send out a virus are not liable for the damage it causes?
If it's really possible to grab numbers from a crowd, this one could get expensive for them.
Just this once, let's give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that this thought may have crossed their minds, mkay? Otherwise, patent some kind of RFID blocking wallet and make a fortune. I can see this technology taking off - consumers will like the idea of "magic wand" payment methods. And it's good to see new technology like this, because it keeps things interesting for the crooks trying to abuse it - wouldn't want them to get too bored.
MS Office has suffered from compatibility problems in the past between versions - i remember having to ask customers/vendors to please "save as Word 6" because we hadn't upgraded to Office 98 yet. If there's one format that truely deserves the label of "a standard in the business community" then it's PDF: when business users exchange documents they're exchanging digitized paper meant for reading.
Once you start talking about exchanging the data in the document (like when you import that spreadsheet into your database) then you're not talking business users, you're talking developers (hopefully for you, or else prepare for the frustration of the guy who sends you a report that's "almost" in the right format).
As for this particular product: about time. They might not post on Slashdot, but there are hordes of people inside every medium to large company that spend their whole working day in front of Excel (and we call them Excel jockeys). Visicalc was a big factor in the early success of the Apple 2. Lotus 1-2-3 did the same for DOS based PCs.
Well, the problem is that if you live in the west and you are middle class or above, then you are already "at the top" when compared with a Pakistani kid who gets paid 4$/day to strip derelict supertankers by hand. One of the things about western culture is that we always look at the people who have more than us: the super rich, celebrities, etc. It's part opiate, part promise: if you work hard then you can have a little taste of that good life too. What it also does is make us less likely to not notice the people around us who have it less good than we do - and not just in far away countries.
You should check out a book called "Nickel and Dimed" by this woman who went "under cover" to work in minimum wage jobs around america. Deeply scary stuff.