This is not a question to Joseph Cheek, but to the linux community reading/..
It said in the article about Lindows: LindowsOS is based on a distribution of Linux, which is covered by a license that requires it to be made freely available for modification and redistribution. However, a system designer who used an unlicensed version of LindowsOS would not be able to use Lindows.com's logo or join the LindowsOS Certification program, and would receive no technical support.
So, where can I download a free Lindows ISO without the logo?
Do you think it is possible that "The Knowlege Tree" in the garden of eden may have been an actually metafor for knowlege itslef, i.e. christanity didn't want us to question our exsitance, and we are paying in suffering for trying to find out? That is why we lost the bliss of living in Eden? (Man, did that one get me in trouble in CCD class) If not, what does that mean, don't tell me God just really really liked them apples.
You say logic is important to you. How logical is it that when Jesus and friends went into the un-human bareing desert, with no or little food, and it just rained fish? I think it is more likeing that that the "manna" was really man. They cut up the courpes of the people that died form stavation and such, and served them to the sourvivors. Do you think that is more logical? (A friend and I used to say to each other "Jesus says you smell like fish." We thought that was funny.)
If all of the humans on earth come from two ansestors, Adam and Eve, then wouldn't there be a lot of imbreeding and genetic problems resulting from that? Why would the church have a stance against inbreeding if that was the case? I thought I heard somewhere that Adam and Eve only had girls, does that mean that Adam had sex with one of his daughters?
I have read in an oldern, non "translated to the common language" bible that Noah sacurficed some animals to God after landing. What do you think of that?
I don't know how the universe is created, we are too primative of a species right now to find out, but the easy answser of the bible is quit unlogical. There are millions, possible more, plants, why spend a whole "day" on earth? It is also mathmatically logical that life exsits on other plants, why not mention that in the bible? Why is there no mention of the Dinosars (oh, please please awnser that one, my imdiate family took my grandpa on my dad's side to a Dino dig near our house, and afterwards he said 'that's great, but you know it's all fake. I thought that was funny.)
Why should one want to go to heaven? There will just be people better then me there. I like to paint, but I won't get attention when Picso and Rembrant are up there. I would feel worthless.
What do you think that people have to do to get into heaven, and why do you think that is fair/logical/understandable? What about the perfect person that dosn't believe and the rottenest person that does. Who gets in?
Does God grant wishes or help out his followers? Does he for his nonfollowers? Why/why not.
If life begins at conception, at which part of conception does it begain at? Conception is not an event, it is a process involving many steps. If any one the steps goes wrong, the mother naturally aborts the cells during her next period. This happens a lot even if the process goes right. Why does God do this? Why is He killing babies? He does make the baby, right? He is making a mistake in the process of making the baby? I thought God didn't make mistakes.
Why did god let do thouse things (let satan do thouse things if you fall for the motern version of the text) to Job just to prove a bet with the devil? Doesn't god have better things to do then make wagers with the devel?
If evolution donsn't exsist, then why do we constinally find neanderthal skulls and bones? Don't say it is a conspiricy (there have been some fakes made for attention, yes) because the scientists are too busy producing Dinasour bones to be doing that too.
If God is perfect, why is there bad stuff in the world, stuff that is out of human control? Why can't he just perfectly get rid of it and that devel guy too. Is the devel stronger or equal in power to God?
If I follow God, what's in it for me, besdies his magical after life and three wishes?
When Jesus died on the cross, where did he go?
Why does pictures and statues always so Jesus with nails in his hands, when obviously nails in the palms would not support the weight of a body?
Is it possible that Jesus just fained on the cross from a lack of water? I read in the bible that he asked for water, which is kind of strange request since when someone is in that position they should almost imedatly choke to death, like a hanging.
Why did the roman guard need to cut Jesus with a soward to make sure he was dead? From history I read that this is not common. Why would they do that to a guy who's was claming to be the son of god, and not the rapists/murders in the crosses beside him. Is it really more important ot make sure taht someone who thinks they are chosen by god is really dead next to a rapist/killer? Well, see my pervious post I guess.
If Jesus forgave the apposile (forogot his name) for touching his wondes because he didn't belive, why should I convert when I am a nonbeliver? When we meet, he should forgive me right away just like that apposile guy.
Why does one have to go to church once a week? What's up with that? Just because our creator reasted for a day, I can't rest on the couch watching Football, and I have to go worship him?
Why does god hurt the inocent people and babies with diseases? Is he really less powerful then evil? If he is less powerful then evil, shouldn't we worship evil for forgiveness?
That tight roper anology, what evidence do you have that Jesus/god exstists and helps? (By the way, useing anologies is like spreeding jelly on toliet paper)
If you enjoy hell, think people who like S&M, does god put you in heaven? Wouldn't that piss off the people in heaven, having thouse types around? Then does it become their hell so they have to go somewhere else?
What percent (about of course) of people who lived when to heaven? Did only people after Jesus' time go? What about people that are living now, percent wise?
I heard that "Jesus died for our sins" but I never heard "Jesus died for the sins of the people that belive in him". Doesn't that mean that I'm a-ok for the afterlife?
How could you find it logical that a little wafer craker could be the body of Jesus?
Why does gossiping with a priest, at least for catholics, get rid of my sins?
If the wine is truly the blood of Jesus, wouldn't that be a little gross, drinking blood? Catholics do take both literally, the cracker and the jin.
Why didn't Jesus save himself and use his superhuman powers and make the romans understand? Like some Yoda mind trick or something.
Does god like it that we are making impovments in medicine and chaning the aveage life span of 45, when Jesus was around, to 80 today? What about fucking with genes and stuff?
Why did Jesus decent into heaven after he rose from the dead? Why didn't he continue to do his goodness on earth? What good can he do in heaven, it's already perfect there. I would have a little more faith in him if he was around earth 2000 years after he was born. Maybe he dosn't want people following him?
Why didn't Jesus write any of the bible, or any other writtings, by himself? Was he inliterate?
Why did it take so many authors to write the bible? You probably belive that god wrote it through this people, then why didn't he just choose a prolific writter, like the Steven King of 0AD, and just tell him what to write?
Why does that bible controdict itself in many places? Just do a google search on "bible controdictions" if you need evidence. Did god mess up? Isn't he perfect? If it was the writter's fault, why didn't he chouse better ones? If it was their fault, does that means that the writters could interpreate how they wanted too? Wouldn't this open a very large can of worms?
If god does good things for his followers, why does he help the non-folowers? Is that a repeat question?
What does God think of computers and that we are/are going to make/ ones that are smarter then humans in many ways. Humans are his prized work right? Arn't we fucking with him by saying we could do better?
If no one belive in god, would there be any motivation for people to go on buses and blow each other up or slam jets into sky scrapers? The bombers/pilots arn't doing to for polical reason, they are doing it for their god. Osama Bin-Laden is doing it for polical reason. If there was no god, he would have had to learn to fly himself.
Well, I should get back to work. That was a nice long and fun break though. I'm studying some mammography images of breast cancer and trying to use some software to have it detect cancer spots useing histograms and graphifical data. Aww, the life a BioChemist, the church's worst enemey:-) . (We were the ones that truely disproved creatism)
I abanded it for many reasons. I never liked the idea that a lot of people of that faith had that if you do something good, you will be rewarded in the afterlife. I always felt that people should do good things to do good things, not to be rewarded. I hated the idea of 'only they people that know and accept Jesus will go to heaven.' That bothered me on serval levels. What about the people that never hear of him? Do they go to hell (or puratory)? Why would doing something that simple, and in my eye's silly, grant you enternal happiness in the afterlife?
I also didn't like the whole money thing. My parents were giving around $20,000 a year to the church every year. I always felt that their money could be more wisely spent on more deserving things then building new church buildings in my town.
I never really found any satisfaction in the bible. There is a memoriable qoute here and there, but I didn't get the whole fulfilment that others did when I read it all the way through. The Chinese Tao, now that book left me with a feeling a feeling of enlightment. I have problems with Taoism, but at least they based their principals on some good writting.
I lissen to my elders a lot more then most people my age do. I volenteer at a nursing home when I find myself with some free time and I try to listen to their advise except when it comes to relgion. I find a WHOLE LOT of them seemed to magically discover or rediscover it when they became close to their termal age. That kind of 'just in case' logical in humans is something I disagree with.
I don't know if I really 'abandoned' my Catholic upbringing. I, for the most part, have always felt the way I do. I was a straight A student in grade school and Jr. High, but when I took my forced evening CCD religious classes, I somehow became the 'trouble maker.' I always quested things that the poor volenteer teachers couldn't answer and that would get me in constant trouble. I was even put in a 'special class' with four other boys who did things like throw stuff in class and start physical fights. That wasn't fun. There were brief times when I became spirtical, but then I would question someting without getting a good answer and that would make me change my mind.
Will someone with more 1337 programing skills then I please make an open audio glaxey server? There is already an open clinet, and IIRC the user interface is already open, could someone please just start up a non-centeralized server that dosn't block songs?
I don't think shipping jobs over seas is a bad thing. It creats jobs for people who really need them, and the money (less of, no dought) would go a lot further in their contury then ours.
The workers in the US should start their own company, go back to school (student loans are abundent), or apply for a better job then a factory worker. This incurages the US to become a stronger country, while helping other countries.
The enviromental concerns are at par with any other company that causes a lot of traffic. This should be handled by good city planners. The thing about them storing pesticides and stuff outside should be taken care of. You think they could find some room inside, they are a WAREHOUSE.
As for closeing of local shops. If they sell unique items, they should still be able to attract business. I don't feel so sorry for the ones that are offering the same old crap and higher prices (I know they charge more because they pay more for lower quenities of items)
So, what else am I missing? Why shouldn't I shop for 'Always low prices, always.'?
You are an atheist I presume, so what do you know about the truth of Christianity?
I studyed Christanity in school for nine years as a Catholic. My parents were relgious at the time and made me go to through type of enviroment. I learned a lot about your faith and, most importaintly, the many holes in that always came up in the teachings.
And since when did me believe that I was chosen by God suddenly mean that I am going to kill everyone?
A lot of people in the past with your mental condion, probably some kind of Atypical psychosis (DSM #298.90), have done a lot of harm to this world. I recomend seeing a good psychologist as soon as posible (give them that DSM code).
In case you didn't get enough posts saying this already, I started out in college at 16 and it was one of the best choices of my life.
I went to college where everyone started out when they were 15 or 16. It's called Simon's Rock. Anyone who is still reading this old thread and is thinking about starting college early, go check it out.
You really think your chosen by god? You make me sick. Why don't you get a bunch of guns and start a commune in Texas. Or, better yet, why don't you do like the last powerful man that thought he was chosen by god and start a polical party that kills 6,000,000 Jews.
um, that comment I made was under hoowee. Unless you have acess to thats account's user profile, you are coming back to this thread every hour to see what I wrote. If that is the case, I'm glad I'm not the only one without a life.
It is strange that booth hoowee and bahtama use the same rarely used Simpson's reference: "Comic Book Guy: "There is no Groening in my store". It is used by hoowee in his sig, and bahtama in this comment. Kind of makes you wonder why this guy likes to have conversation with himself.
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This is not a question to Joseph Cheek, but to the linux community reading /..
It said in the article about Lindows:
LindowsOS is based on a distribution of Linux, which is covered by a license that requires it to be made freely available for modification and redistribution. However, a system designer who used an unlicensed version of LindowsOS would not be able to use Lindows.com's logo or join the LindowsOS Certification program, and would receive no technical support.
So, where can I download a free Lindows ISO without the logo?
The Earth Simulator Project will create a "virtual earth" on a supercomputer...
Hmmm, now where have I heard of an idea like that?
Alright then, though questions. Let's see.
:-) . (We were the ones that truely disproved creatism)
Do you think it is possible that "The Knowlege Tree" in the garden of eden may have been an actually metafor for knowlege itslef, i.e. christanity didn't want us to question our exsitance, and we are paying in suffering for trying to find out? That is why we lost the bliss of living in Eden? (Man, did that one get me in trouble in CCD class) If not, what does that mean, don't tell me God just really really liked them apples.
You say logic is important to you. How logical is it that when Jesus and friends went into the un-human bareing desert, with no or little food, and it just rained fish? I think it is more likeing that that the "manna" was really man. They cut up the courpes of the people that died form stavation and such, and served them to the sourvivors. Do you think that is more logical? (A friend and I used to say to each other "Jesus says you smell like fish." We thought that was funny.)
If all of the humans on earth come from two ansestors, Adam and Eve, then wouldn't there be a lot of imbreeding and genetic problems resulting from that? Why would the church have a stance against inbreeding if that was the case? I thought I heard somewhere that Adam and Eve only had girls, does that mean that Adam had sex with one of his daughters?
I have read in an oldern, non "translated to the common language" bible that Noah sacurficed some animals to God after landing. What do you think of that?
I don't know how the universe is created, we are too primative of a species right now to find out, but the easy answser of the bible is quit unlogical. There are millions, possible more, plants, why spend a whole "day" on earth? It is also mathmatically logical that life exsits on other plants, why not mention that in the bible? Why is there no mention of the Dinosars (oh, please please awnser that one, my imdiate family took my grandpa on my dad's side to a Dino dig near our house, and afterwards he said 'that's great, but you know it's all fake. I thought that was funny.)
Why should one want to go to heaven? There will just be people better then me there. I like to paint, but I won't get attention when Picso and Rembrant are up there. I would feel worthless.
What do you think that people have to do to get into heaven, and why do you think that is fair/logical/understandable? What about the perfect person that dosn't believe and the rottenest person that does. Who gets in?
Does God grant wishes or help out his followers? Does he for his nonfollowers? Why/why not.
If life begins at conception, at which part of conception does it begain at? Conception is not an event, it is a process involving many steps. If any one the steps goes wrong, the mother naturally aborts the cells during her next period. This happens a lot even if the process goes right. Why does God do this? Why is He killing babies? He does make the baby, right? He is making a mistake in the process of making the baby? I thought God didn't make mistakes.
Why did god let do thouse things (let satan do thouse things if you fall for the motern version of the text) to Job just to prove a bet with the devil? Doesn't god have better things to do then make wagers with the devel?
If evolution donsn't exsist, then why do we constinally find neanderthal skulls and bones? Don't say it is a conspiricy (there have been some fakes made for attention, yes) because the scientists are too busy producing Dinasour bones to be doing that too.
If God is perfect, why is there bad stuff in the world, stuff that is out of human control? Why can't he just perfectly get rid of it and that devel guy too. Is the devel stronger or equal in power to God?
If I follow God, what's in it for me, besdies his magical after life and three wishes?
When Jesus died on the cross, where did he go?
Why does pictures and statues always so Jesus with nails in his hands, when obviously nails in the palms would not support the weight of a body?
Is it possible that Jesus just fained on the cross from a lack of water? I read in the bible that he asked for water, which is kind of strange request since when someone is in that position they should almost imedatly choke to death, like a hanging.
Why did the roman guard need to cut Jesus with a soward to make sure he was dead? From history I read that this is not common. Why would they do that to a guy who's was claming to be the son of god, and not the rapists/murders in the crosses beside him. Is it really more important ot make sure taht someone who thinks they are chosen by god is really dead next to a rapist/killer? Well, see my pervious post I guess.
If Jesus forgave the apposile (forogot his name) for touching his wondes because he didn't belive, why should I convert when I am a nonbeliver? When we meet, he should forgive me right away just like that apposile guy.
Why does one have to go to church once a week? What's up with that? Just because our creator reasted for a day, I can't rest on the couch watching Football, and I have to go worship him?
Why does god hurt the inocent people and babies with diseases? Is he really less powerful then evil? If he is less powerful then evil, shouldn't we worship evil for forgiveness?
That tight roper anology, what evidence do you have that Jesus/god exstists and helps? (By the way, useing anologies is like spreeding jelly on toliet paper)
If you enjoy hell, think people who like S&M, does god put you in heaven? Wouldn't that piss off the people in heaven, having thouse types around? Then does it become their hell so they have to go somewhere else?
What percent (about of course) of people who lived when to heaven? Did only people after Jesus' time go? What about people that are living now, percent wise?
I heard that "Jesus died for our sins" but I never heard "Jesus died for the sins of the people that belive in him". Doesn't that mean that I'm a-ok for the afterlife?
How could you find it logical that a little wafer craker could be the body of Jesus?
Why does gossiping with a priest, at least for catholics, get rid of my sins?
If the wine is truly the blood of Jesus, wouldn't that be a little gross, drinking blood? Catholics do take both literally, the cracker and the jin.
Why didn't Jesus save himself and use his superhuman powers and make the romans understand? Like some Yoda mind trick or something.
Does god like it that we are making impovments in medicine and chaning the aveage life span of 45, when Jesus was around, to 80 today? What about fucking with genes and stuff?
Why did Jesus decent into heaven after he rose from the dead? Why didn't he continue to do his goodness on earth? What good can he do in heaven, it's already perfect there. I would have a little more faith in him if he was around earth 2000 years after he was born. Maybe he dosn't want people following him?
Why didn't Jesus write any of the bible, or any other writtings, by himself? Was he inliterate?
Why did it take so many authors to write the bible? You probably belive that god wrote it through this people, then why didn't he just choose a prolific writter, like the Steven King of 0AD, and just tell him what to write?
Why does that bible controdict itself in many places? Just do a google search on "bible controdictions" if you need evidence. Did god mess up? Isn't he perfect? If it was the writter's fault, why didn't he chouse better ones? If it was their fault, does that means that the writters could interpreate how they wanted too? Wouldn't this open a very large can of worms?
If god does good things for his followers, why does he help the non-folowers? Is that a repeat question?
What does God think of computers and that we are/are going to make/ ones that are smarter then humans in many ways. Humans are his prized work right? Arn't we fucking with him by saying we could do better?
If no one belive in god, would there be any motivation for people to go on buses and blow each other up or slam jets into sky scrapers? The bombers/pilots arn't doing to for polical reason, they are doing it for their god. Osama Bin-Laden is doing it for polical reason. If there was no god, he would have had to learn to fly himself.
Well, I should get back to work. That was a nice long and fun break though. I'm studying some mammography images of breast cancer and trying to use some software to have it detect cancer spots useing histograms and graphifical data. Aww, the life a BioChemist, the church's worst enemey
Performance Fee
(per performance)
If by performace they mean per song, then we are going to be hearing a lot of "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida" by webcasters.
I abanded it for many reasons. I never liked the idea that a lot of people of that faith had that if you do something good, you will be rewarded in the afterlife. I always felt that people should do good things to do good things, not to be rewarded. I hated the idea of 'only they people that know and accept Jesus will go to heaven.' That bothered me on serval levels. What about the people that never hear of him? Do they go to hell (or puratory)? Why would doing something that simple, and in my eye's silly, grant you enternal happiness in the afterlife?
I also didn't like the whole money thing. My parents were giving around $20,000 a year to the church every year. I always felt that their money could be more wisely spent on more deserving things then building new church buildings in my town.
I never really found any satisfaction in the bible. There is a memoriable qoute here and there, but I didn't get the whole fulfilment that others did when I read it all the way through. The Chinese Tao, now that book left me with a feeling a feeling of enlightment. I have problems with Taoism, but at least they based their principals on some good writting.
I lissen to my elders a lot more then most people my age do. I volenteer at a nursing home when I find myself with some free time and I try to listen to their advise except when it comes to relgion. I find a WHOLE LOT of them seemed to magically discover or rediscover it when they became close to their termal age. That kind of 'just in case' logical in humans is something I disagree with.
I don't know if I really 'abandoned' my Catholic upbringing. I, for the most part, have always felt the way I do. I was a straight A student in grade school and Jr. High, but when I took my forced evening CCD religious classes, I somehow became the 'trouble maker.' I always quested things that the poor volenteer teachers couldn't answer and that would get me in constant trouble. I was even put in a 'special class' with four other boys who did things like throw stuff in class and start physical fights. That wasn't fun. There were brief times when I became spirtical, but then I would question someting without getting a good answer and that would make me change my mind.
Will someone with more 1337 programing skills then I please make an open audio glaxey server? There is already an open clinet, and IIRC the user interface is already open, could someone please just start up a non-centeralized server that dosn't block songs?
That would be sooo damn cool.
Hey, your bringing down the Catholic Church. I might grow to like you after all.
Wern't some PCs "free" a couple of years ago? (with long term dail-up accounts) That didn't kill Windows.
MS office runs great with regular WINE.
I don't think shipping jobs over seas is a bad thing. It creats jobs for people who really need them, and the money (less of, no dought) would go a lot further in their contury then ours.
The workers in the US should start their own company, go back to school (student loans are abundent), or apply for a better job then a factory worker. This incurages the US to become a stronger country, while helping other countries.
The enviromental concerns are at par with any other company that causes a lot of traffic. This should be handled by good city planners. The thing about them storing pesticides and stuff outside should be taken care of. You think they could find some room inside, they are a WAREHOUSE.
As for closeing of local shops. If they sell unique items, they should still be able to attract business. I don't feel so sorry for the ones that are offering the same old crap and higher prices (I know they charge more because they pay more for lower quenities of items)
So, what else am I missing? Why shouldn't I shop for 'Always low prices, always.'?
Sam Walton graduated from the University of Missouri, Columbia in 1940.
Guess what school I go to.
i was under the impression sam had a less than adiquate education.
Haha, that is the funniest flame bait and subtle insult I have read in awhile.
You are an atheist I presume, so what do you know about the truth of Christianity?
I studyed Christanity in school for nine years as a Catholic. My parents were relgious at the time and made me go to through type of enviroment. I learned a lot about your faith and, most importaintly, the many holes in that always came up in the teachings.
And since when did me believe that I was chosen by God suddenly mean that I am going to kill everyone?
A lot of people in the past with your mental condion, probably some kind of Atypical psychosis (DSM #298.90), have done a lot of harm to this world. I recomend seeing a good psychologist as soon as posible (give them that DSM code).
In case you didn't get enough posts saying this already, I started out in college at 16 and it was one of the best choices of my life.
I went to college where everyone started out when they were 15 or 16. It's called Simon's Rock. Anyone who is still reading this old thread and is thinking about starting college early, go check it out.
You really think your chosen by god? You make me sick. Why don't you get a bunch of guns and start a commune in Texas. Or, better yet, why don't you do like the last powerful man that thought he was chosen by god and start a polical party that kills 6,000,000 Jews.
1.0 is finally here!
This is higher then the number of working mirrors I found.
errr, I mean the stupid Gummi Bears.
um, that comment I made was under hoowee. Unless you have acess to thats account's user profile, you are coming back to this thread every hour to see what I wrote. If that is the case, I'm glad I'm not the only one without a life.
James Herriot and the Care Bares suck.
It is strange that booth hoowee and bahtama use the same rarely used Simpson's reference: "Comic Book Guy: "There is no Groening in my store". It is used by hoowee in his sig, and bahtama in this comment. Kind of makes you wonder why this guy likes to have conversation with himself.
asshole
ohhhhhhh....thank you
And bahtama writes "The latest IE gopher hole patch is out! :) ... Check the release notes and then grab it from here."
Why did they attach a comment that should have been mentioned in slashback and put it in such an historic post?
New study reveals studies aren't that reliable.
Crack a password, save history.
Get a cable modem, go to jail..
What kind of crazy backwards world are we living in?
I'm sorry, I should have said 'why didn't they go to SuSE DIRECTLY. Thanks for your non-assholeish second paragraph though.
Why did Germany go with IBM? I mean, if they wanted to go with Linux to save money or for other reasons, why didn't they just contact SuSE?