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ApharmdB writes "The BBC has a story about the possibility of performing face transplants within the year. Obviously, people are worried about the ethical ramifications, but would someone with your transplanted face actually look like you? Either way, everyone better be careful, or Nicolas Cage may try to steal their family."

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  1. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1, Funny

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  2. Another link by TeknoHog · · Score: 5, Informative
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  3. Bleh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How could you mention the old movie face-off when the newest James Bond has the new tech of using DNA injections to change your face?!?!

    1. Re:Bleh by Nevermore-Spoon · · Score: 0

      maybe because the parallel is more true to Face Off, since it's a surgery, and not a spy gimic?

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  4. I'll keep mine, thank you by L.+VeGas · · Score: 4, Funny

    It took a long time to mold my nose into the shape of my boss's rectum.

  5. new Skins by muyuubyou · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Now that we have that nice IE skin for Mozilla. Do you know of any Bill skin for download?

    Yes, my dad is uglier.

    1. Re:new Skins by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's alright as long as you keep away from MichaelJackson.skn.

    2. Re:new Skins by mark_lybarger · · Score: 1

      money can't buy happieness, but it sure as hell can buy ugliness. gawd that's horrid.

    3. Re:new Skins by tomhudson · · Score: 2
      Man, that is SO nasty!

      Looks like monkey boy's (Microsoft CEO Ballmer's) next of kin.

      So much for him trying to be the next Dianah Ross.

  6. Good Guy / Bad Guy actors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Travolta's the thief! Cage is a good guy.

    Heh heh, some things are so predictable. I would have known that even not having seen the movie.

  7. Cage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    He can _have_ my family, especially for thanksgiving. I don't know if it's because grandpa stopped wearing pants or uncle ed gets loopy on pernod, but holidays just aren't what they used to be.

    Maybe if they're lucky he'll bring those tripped-out alka-seltzer tablets that did him right in the movie.

    bleh.

  8. Forget transplants... by cyt0plas · · Score: 3, Funny

    How about modular faces you can switch out at will?
    Tom Cruise on Monday...
    Brad Pitt on Tuesday...
    Weird Al on Wednsday...

    Ebay won't let you sell body parts, but maybe you can sell your face on uBid :)

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    1. Re:Forget transplants... by daeley · · Score: 2
      Oooh! I'm getting Six Million Dollar Man Maskatron flashbacks! [shiver]

      Add new realistic competition to your bionic adventures. Shrewd! Strong! He can fool your friends with mask disguises. His robot body is full of electronic pretend gadgetry-two "weapon" arms make him ALMOST invincible! Only you and Steve Austin know where to strike MASKATRON and "pow"-arms, legs-even his head flies off! Dressed in civilian clothes.

      MASKATRON has two special weapon arms. Vice grip arm, and super suction arm make him an almost invincible foe of Steve Austin.

      MASKATRON face masks make him look like Steve Austin or Oscar."
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    2. Re:Forget transplants... by DuckDuckBOOM! · · Score: 1
      Tom Cruise on Monday...
      Brad Pitt on Tuesday...
      Weird Al on Wednsday...
      ...and, of course, Jack Webb on Friday.

      DDB

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  9. Jacko by red_dragon · · Score: 5, Funny

    Uh... well, I don't know where Michael Jackson got his face from, but the nose is obviously from another planet.

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    1. Re:Jacko by unicron · · Score: 4, Funny

      After seeing him at that trial, I was half-expecting him to summon the power of Greyskull.

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    2. Re:Jacko by bytesmythe · · Score: 4, Funny

      Can Skeletor do that?

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    3. Re:Jacko by raistlinjones · · Score: 1, Insightful

      And it's been said, repeatedly.

    4. Re:Jacko by Master+Bait · · Score: 3, Insightful

      With this new technology, Jacko can finally be a white woman (above the waist).

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    5. Re:Jacko by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    6. Re:Jacko by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No... well he could, but that would mean he won and He-Man was destroyed. And we all know THAT isn't scientifically feasible.

  10. Why do I imagine that Michael Jackson ... by burgburgburg · · Score: 5, Funny

    was the tragically unsuccessful guinea pig for most of this experimentation? It would explain so much. Trying to give that poor man the face of some long dead woman.

    1. Re:Why do I imagine that Michael Jackson ... by hosebee · · Score: 3, Funny

      I beg to differ. I think Michael Jackson funded much of the research in this area so that he can enter what he calls 'Phase 2'.

    2. Re:Why do I imagine that Michael Jackson ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I saw a shot the other day of him with facial stubble. Looked so out of place - kind of like a chia pet...

    3. Re:Why do I imagine that Michael Jackson ... by Openadvocate · · Score: 1

      Yes, I wrote a letter to a national newspaper that they should stop putting his face on the front of the web edition of their paper. It's way too scary these days.

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    4. Re:Why do I imagine that Michael Jackson ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Heal the world.
      Make me a better face...

  11. Face-Off II.... by Dark+Paladin · · Score: 5, Funny

    Inside a dark room, the man who calls himself Linux Torvalds awakes.

    Linus: What...what has happened to me?

    Stands up, groggily making his way to the mirror - but what looks back at him isn't his face, it's...Steve Balmer!

    Linus: Nooooooo!

    Meanwhile, thousands of miles away at Linuxworld....

    Hacker (in crowd): Hey, is it just me, but did Linus gain like 300 pounds?

    Hacker2: Totally. The guy needs to go back on his mac n' cheese diet.

    On the stage, a man who's face looks like Linus's is jumping about the stage, clapping his hands.

    Steve: Developers, developers, developers....!

    1. Re:Face-Off II.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ROFL hahaha can't stop laughing, thank you :)

    2. Re:Face-Off II.... by ENOENT · · Score: 1

      Dude, stop it. Now there's coffee sprayed all over my monitor.

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  12. I support this by Uhh_Duh · · Score: 3, Funny

    Due to the fact that parents are now 34% more likely to have ugly children, I fully support this. (If that statistic sounds wrong, it's because I made it up).

    I wrote an editorial on a topic similar to this right here. It makes a strong case for the right to choose what humans should look like. (Note to those with no sense of humor: Clicking this link will ruin your day).

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    1. Re:I support this by stratjakt · · Score: 2, Interesting

      actually, due to natural selection, the human race is getting prettier.. There's been legitimate research to back this up, I was watching about it on TLC.

      Basically, good looking people get laid more than the ugly ones.

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    2. Re:I support this by kin_korn_karn · · Score: 1

      so what happens when everyone is beautiful? a planet-wide orgy? COOL!!! Can I have a face transplant now, can I can I can I??

    3. Re:I support this by archeopterix · · Score: 2
      actually, due to natural selection, the human race is getting prettier.. There's been legitimate research to back this up, I was watching about it on TLC.
      Basically, good looking people get laid more than the ugly ones.
      I find this counterintuitive. Of course, good looking people get laid more than the ugly ones, but that's exactly the reason I'd expect them to be less willing to spoil their fun with having kids/wives/husbands.
    4. Re:I support this by Psmylie · · Score: 2

      Since ugly people can only get laid by other ugly people, what we are looking at is not so much a case of the human race getting prettier as it is a case of there being a widening gap between the beautiful and the ugly... a sort of "Beauty Divide" if you will.
      If that sounds innacurate, then... well, okay, I just made it up.

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    5. Re:I support this by burts_here · · Score: 1

      "actually, due to natural selection, the human race is getting prettier.. There's been legitimate research to back this up, I was watching about it on TLC."
      "Basically, good looking people get laid more than the ugly ones"

      we are going to end up a planet of bimbos *sigh* somone pass me my peroxide...

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    6. Re:I support this by tomhudson · · Score: 3, Funny
      Since ugly people can only get laid by other ugly people ,,, <quote>

      That's why beer was invented.

      Example marketing slogan: "(insert brand of beer) - helping ugly people have sex since 1863"

      If it wasn't for the effects of beer and most males' penchant for indiscriminately fucking anything remotely female with a pulse, the human race would probably have fallen below its' replacement level long ago.

    7. Re:I support this by sys$manager · · Score: 2

      Of course, good looking people get laid more than the ugly ones, but that's exactly the reason I'd expect them to be less willing to spoil their fun with having kids/wives/husbands.

      Because on average the traditionally "attractive"* girls act like stupid bimbos and get knocked up.

      * My idea of "attractive" and societies idea of the same don't exactly line up.

    8. Re:I support this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      If that statistic sounds wrong, it's because I made it up
      85% of statistics are made up by people as a way of substantiating their ideas.
    9. Re:I support this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You say that like it's a bad thing.

    10. Re:I support this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Be honest here. How many MILFs do you see in a day? It seems to me like there are still plenty more less good looking people with kids than good looking people.

    11. Re:I support this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      If it wasn't for the effects of beer and most males' penchant for indiscriminately fucking anything remotely female with a pulse [...]

      wait, wait... they have to have a PULSE now too!? Damn, I'll never get laid!

    12. Re:I support this by theNeophile · · Score: 1

      Aw, people can come up with statistics to prove anything, Kent. Forty percent of all people know that

  13. Re:Nicolas Cage. by the_Upsetter · · Score: 1

    or WAS HE?!

  14. eewwww..... by cybermace5 · · Score: 5, Funny


    Imagine your body deciding to reject the transplant, on the bus to work, in the morning....

    Most people would try to hold the face on with one hand and grope for the cell phone to call up a doctor. The typical Slashdot reader would stand up and bellow something about stealing souls.

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  15. Reconstructible faces by seangw · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This would go great in conjunction with growing human organs and tissue from human DNA.

    Imagine having a backup of your own face, just in case you get into a facially disfiguring accident. Instantly, you have your "old" face back.

    1. Re:Reconstructible faces by stoolpigeon · · Score: 2

      I'd rather just be dumped in Cryo and live a dream life w/my face all better and the love of my life at my side.

      .

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    2. Re:Reconstructible faces by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      could this lead to a RAID option? possibly combine the mirroring with some sort of striping?

    3. Re:Reconstructible faces by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      possibly combine the mirroring with some sort of striping?

      like zebra stripes?

    4. Re:Reconstructible faces by timster · · Score: 2

      Don't you think you wouldn't need a "backup face" since your DNA wouldn't change in an accident (if it did, you have more serious problems). So you could just grow the face on an as-needed basis.

      Of course if they manage to start growing human organs from human DNA, being able to replace faces would be the least of the boons.

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  16. No, think it through by burgburgburg · · Score: 3, Informative

    Travolta was the hero, the FBI agent. Cage was the villianous terrorist. But they switched faces. So Cage, wearing Travolta's face, tried to steal Travolta's life/family. Travolta, wearing Cage's face, was the good guy.

    1. Re:No, think it through by DMBoyd · · Score: 1

      meh, travolta is the villain anyway. trying to subvert the minds of the depressed with scientology!

  17. new face by r0xah · · Score: 1

    Imagine if you got a facetransplant from somebody you and your friends knew... then you'd have to change your name because people would recognize you as "Bill" instead of who you really are. Or if you are really good you could hook up with "Bill's" exgirlfriend saying that you really didn't die, just staged your death.

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  18. Not the story by mfago · · Score: 4, Funny

    that one should forward to one's spouse...

    1. Re:Not the story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hey you moderator! Mod that up. It's really good!

      Artaxerxes

    2. Re:Not the story by carpe_noctem · · Score: 2

      too late!

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    3. Re:Not the story by Sensitive_Clod · · Score: 1

      you'll definitely be getting less face.

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  19. I want by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I want to look like the current sitting president.

    Try to make money on talk shows and such.

    1. Re:I want by tomhudson · · Score: 2
      I want to look like the current sitting president. Try to make money on talk shows and such. </quote>

      Nah, you'd make more money as Bubba, your previous prez. Except on Hallowe'en, when Nixon would be the big thing.

  20. How long before... by CommieLib · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The insurance claims start rolling in for the "facially challenged"...

    Seriously though. This seems to take plastic surgery to an entirely new level. If my old face was destroyed in an accident, I might think for a few moments about getting Mel Gibson's face as a bolt-on.

    Of course, without quite a few hours on the treadmill it's not exactly going to have the desired effect, but doesn't this open up a Pandora's Box for copyright issues...

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    1. Re:How long before... by mark_lybarger · · Score: 2

      good luck getting Mel to give his up. doesn't there have to be a donor to do a transplant?

    2. Re:How long before... by carlos_benj · · Score: 1

      According to a ring of kidney thieves I know, Mel has already been through this.

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    3. Re:How long before... by mark_lybarger · · Score: 1

      yeah, and i've got some herbal viagra to sell you to. or a way to pay off all your debt. perhaps you're intersted in enlarging certain body parts?

    4. Re:How long before... by CommieLib · · Score: 2

      Ideally, I suppose, but like another poster noted, it's mostly the bone structure that determines what someone's face looks like.

      What the story really relates is that surgery has advanced to the degree that all of the fine nerve and blood vessel work that is necessary to make a face more than a "skin mask" is in place. To get "Mel Gibson", all I really need is an intact face, heavy :( maxillofacial surgery / facial implants and a surgeon that has done some facial transplants.

      Oh, and the aforementioned hours on the treadmill ;).

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    5. Re:How long before... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's why they want human cloning: replacement parts.

    6. Re:How long before... by Reziac · · Score: 2

      As a serious observation.. since your own face (however damaged or disfigured it may be) must be entirely REMOVED before a new face can be transplanted... if a face transplant fails, you're left quite literally without a face -- all you'd have is a raw gaping wound over the front half of your face, with assorted holes for eyes and mouth. Strikes me as a great deal more risk than it's worth.

      Elli Quinn is still a ways in the future, methinks.

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  21. Rejection by redfiche · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I have to think it would be pretty ugly if the recipient rejected the transplant. If that happened, what could be done? With what remained of your original face gone, you'd be left with a collection of grafts and prostheses. I wouldn't take that chance. I certainly wouldn't take the chance for aesthetic reasons.

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    1. Re:Rejection by GT_Alias · · Score: 3, Insightful
      That's what I was thinking. The article stated:

      At the same time, the recipient would have to have their face, facial muscles, skin and subcutaneous fat removed.

      So you're basically left with bone. And if that new face doesn't quite settle in? Man, wouldn't that be gross? You'd be like Skeletor.

    2. Re:Rejection by DickScratcher · · Score: 1

      Did you read the article?

      These transplants are for severely disfigured people. People who have lost large parts of the face: one or both jaws, tongue, nose, cheek bones etc.. People who eat through a tube inserted straight into the stomach. In such circumstances, wouldn't you brave the risks?

    3. Re:Rejection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What do you think happened to Michael Jackson?

    4. Re:rejection by Varkoth · · Score: 1

      My body already DID reject my face. So did everyone else. Jeez, I didn't even need a transplant for that!

  22. Re:Idiot. Its Travolta. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jesus, I would think the face/off wasn't that complicated. But now, you're the second in this topic, who shows that he didn't understand...

  23. there's hope yet... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...for all you ugly slashdotters out there! a tummy tuck and a new face! wooloohoo!

  24. Re:Nicolas Cage. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    "I want to take his face... off. Eyes, nose, skin, teeth... It's coming off!"

    His acting, expression and everything in this scene is just priceless :-)

  25. I don't know about you ... by fudgefactor7 · · Score: 2

    but I don't know anyone who wants to look like me, including me! So, I doubt my puss will be stolen any time soon.

  26. Face lift, squared by seangw · · Score: 2, Funny

    If a generic face were available as a "loaner", could we go in, have our faces removed, and get them "serviced" to be younger. then after a few weeks/months/years of work, could it be put back on with 15 years taken off?

    Disturbingly enough I find the options here to be limitless.

  27. Gaaaaaa! by Anthony+Boyd · · Score: 3, Interesting

    From the article:

    In addition, advances in suppressing the immune system's response to foreign tissue would give the procedure a better chance of success.

    So what happens if your body rejects your face?!?

    1. Re:Gaaaaaa! by tomhudson · · Score: 2
      So what happens if your body rejects your face?!? </quote>

      I dunno, in many cases (couch potatoes, typical slashdot readers, for example), I think it will be the face rejecting the body!

    2. Re:Gaaaaaa! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      In my experience going to bars, most bodies reject my face.

    3. Re:Gaaaaaa! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can't go to the prom.

    4. Re:Gaaaaaa! by falzer · · Score: 2

      So what happens if your body rejects your face?!?

      You scream out "raarrgghh!! I must find another soul!" in your best demon voice.

    5. Re:Gaaaaaa! by Timothy+Chu · · Score: 1

      Then you'd tell everybody, "Talk to the hand".

      <tim><

  28. It's not just the flesh... by NFNNMIDATA · · Score: 5, Interesting

    it's the bone that shapes your face for the most part. That's why they can make those clay facial recreations when they find an unidentified skeleton. And that's also why Face/Off was so ridiculous...

    1. Re:It's not just the flesh... by IndependentVik · · Score: 1

      And that's also why Face/Off was so ridiculous...

      Well, one reason why Face Off was so ridiculous.

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    2. Re:It's not just the flesh... by donutz · · Score: 5, Funny

      And that's also why Face/Off was so ridiculous...

      No, I think the rediculous part is the suctiony *pop* noise the faces make when they come off...

    3. Re:It's not just the flesh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's ridiculous...learn to spell, g00b3r!

    4. Re:It's not just the flesh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As far as I remember, they made some plastic thingy that would mimic the bone structure... but i'm not sure.

    5. Re:It's not just the flesh... by hpulley · · Score: 1

      "The microsurgical procedure, a technique already used by doctors, could involve a patient being given new lips, chin, ears, nose, skin and bone from a recently deceased person." It sure sounds to me like they are considering transplating bone as well. Bone transplants are not new. I don't know that it can be done perfectly as there is only so much you can add and remove to the basic shape of a person's skull but with the right match it would be fairly close.

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    6. Re:It's not just the flesh... by TheWickedKingJeremy · · Score: 2

      And that's also why Face/Off was so ridiculous...

      No, I think the rediculous part is the suctiony *pop* noise the faces make when they come off...


      Gentleman, gentleman... Lets not bicker and argue over which scene is more ridiculous. Each and every scene is stupid for its own reasons... to single out any one or two scenes would be to deny the truly terrible whole that is Face Off.

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  29. Trademark violation! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I can see rich phuck suing some poor people that have similar faces for face squating.

    "They are devaluing my face! I want them to have those faces REMOVED NOW!"

  30. Help! by Openadvocate · · Score: 2

    I am trying to come up with a obligatory Simpsons reference(and possible link to snpp.com), but I am blank.
    Help

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    1. Re:Help! by Ctrl-Z · · Score: 2


      How about this one?

      "Hibbert: Hmmmm. Through the midst of all the killing and skin-eating, somehow we forgot the looovvve." :-)

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    2. Re:Help! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about the one with Sideshow Luke Perry flying out of the cannon through the Acid display at the Kwik-E-Mart?

      Ahhhhhhhhh... My face, my valuable face!

      Krusty Gets Kancelled

    3. Re:Help! by masterkool · · Score: 1

      What about the entire episode where Moe got a new face...?

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    4. Re:Help! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd say the obvious one would be Pygmoelian.

  31. Issues by stoolpigeon · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There are a couple issues that come to mind rather quickly--

    The first being that I believe they may be able to start trying to do this in a year but it would take time to get it to work. And I would hate to see what the failures will look like. I would think that rejection would be a major issue. And the bottom line is they've never done this before- there will be bugs to work out.

    The second- is what if they could do the whole deal perfectly? What if you could have some dead persons face?

    I picture someone walking in a mall and they see their son who committed suicide a bit back walking by. Or bumping into a lost spouse.

    This is a much less than ideal solution. I'm not saying they shouldn't do it- but it does need to be really thought out.

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    1. Re:Issues by Dark+Paladin · · Score: 2

      I would agree.

      I think the main benefit to this surgury would be for those who have either been in accidents (fire, etc - one case comes to mind of a man who had to have 60% of his face removed because of a fungal infection), or those with certain birth defects at birth.

      But there would have to be some caution here. I think the last thing we want is something out of "The Man With Two Brains" - somebody kills Antonio Banderas, and next thing you know his face has been transplanted.

      Makes you wonder if cremations for famous people will become more popular. Hm.

    2. Re:Issues by sys$manager · · Score: 5, Funny

      or those with certain birth defects at birth.

      I'd like to meet someone who got a birth defect after birth.

    3. Re:Issues by 5KVGhost · · Score: 2

      It's not just for fun, of course. This is for people who's faces have been pretty much destroyed. Someone who's been in a terrible fire, for example, and who's face is essentially gone. I don't mean to sound insensitive, but it's probably intended for patients where things can't get much worse than they already are.

      Also, as others have said, deep bone structure is as much a part of your face as the flesh on top. By the time they finished reconnecting everything and making the necessary adjustments someone with a transplanted face probably wouldn't look much like the original donor.

    4. Re:Issues by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Yet another reason why you should wash behind your ears... your face might have to be scraped off if you don't.

    5. Re:Issues by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "There are a couple issues that come to mind rather quickly"

      All I can think about is his soon to be ex-wife Preslie having nightmares that it might happen in real life now too!

    6. Re:Issues by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you insensitive clod!

    7. Re:Issues by fishbowl · · Score: 2

      "[O]ne case comes to mind of a man who had to have 60% of his face removed because of a fungal infection), or those with certain birth defects at birth."

      That story really freaked me out. It also made me wonder whether the same treatment would have been given to someone with a lot of money, or famous. They "removed" the guy's eyes, eye sockets, nose, teeth, lips, sinus cavities, and cheek bones. Different strokes I suppose, but I cannot relate to the opinion that this is a better outcome than death.

      I mean, if I had to choose between a month to live or that, I'd take the month. In the woods somewhere. Provided euthenasia isn't an option.

      Anyway I've tried to find a follow-up to the story, but found nothing. Lots of interesting info about Mucormycosis though.

      Original article is here:

      http://www.cnn.com/2002/HEALTH/02/03/prosthetic. fa ce/

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  32. This has already happened.. by kbewley · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think this face transplanting has been going on for quite some time. Why, as a student I would go out to a bar and go home with a beautiful stunner. But, next day her face had been 'transplanted' leaving the stunner with the face of a munter. ;-)

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  33. See... by craenor · · Score: 1, Redundant

    There's hope for Michael Jackson's face even still...

  34. Face Scanners by All+Names+Have+Been · · Score: 5, Funny

    Take that biometrics!

    1. Re:Face Scanners by drinkypoo · · Score: 2
      I think in order to defeat biometrics we should all run around wearing masks of former presidents.

      When the biometric systems start showing reagan walking into starbucks in every state at the same time, they'll be forced to take action!

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      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
  35. the Sheeple don't like the idea, apparently by cryofan2 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The article said 120 people were surveyed and asked whether they would allow their own face to be used for a transplant after they died. All 120 said they would not allow it.


    WTF?! I think it is disgusting that people would not allow this to happen, or even that they would not allow their own faces to be used. What are they, superstitious? WHat idiots....


    I would GLADLY allow my face to be used after my death, except for the fact that my entire head will be resting in a liquid-nitrogen filled dewar soon after my death.

    1. Re:the Sheeple don't like the idea, apparently by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unless you are talking about people dying young or something. I don't see a lot people want the face of a 75 years old.

    2. Re:the Sheeple don't like the idea, apparently by archeopterix · · Score: 2
      I would GLADLY allow my face to be used after my death, except for the fact that my entire head will be resting in a liquid-nitrogen filled dewar soon after my death.
      Me too, I'd just stipulate that the guy who gets my face scares some of the people I don't like by knocking at their windows at night, heh heh.
  36. Eddie Murphy by istartedi · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Eddie Murphy did an SNL skit on face transplants that was pretty funny. IIRC, it was like a pitch to encourage people to donate their face, and they had an interview with a white woman who had received a black face. It was a riot at the time... not sure how well it would hold up.

    OK, so science fiction becomes real life alot; but Eddie Murphy jokes? Too unreal.

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    For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
  37. The Evil Dead by IndependentVik · · Score: 1, Funny

    "Swallow your soul!"

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    I'd suggest you don't use Slashdot as your only news source, or you will suffer permanent brain damage.
    1. Re:The Evil Dead by DigitalCrackPipe · · Score: 2, Funny

      Come get some.

  38. The masked man by Jon+Abbott · · Score: 2

    Perhaps Tom Cruise would like a face transplant... He has worn a mask in four recent movies -- Mission Impossible, Minority Report, Eyes Wide Shut, and Vanilla Sky. Something out of the ordinary is afoot...

    Seriously though, I think this will be a great breakthrough for people with facial scarring that is not reparable by conventional means.

    1. Re:The masked man by Tackhead · · Score: 2
      > Perhaps Tom Cruise would like a face transplant... He has worn a mask [tvguide.com] in four recent movies -- Mission Impossible [imdb.com], Minority Report [imdb.com], Eyes Wide Shut [imdb.com], and Vanilla Sky [imdb.com]. Something out of the ordinary is afoot...

      Yeah, I don't get it. I mean, all the money in the world won't get your own body thetans removed, I can only imagine how many of the little buggers come attached to some random wog's face.

      Leading theory: What if they extracted a few chunks of DNA on some Kool's cigarettebutts smoked by L. Ron Hubbard, wedged 'em into some stem cells, and 20 years later, there's Cruise's face transplant. Cruise then runs for President as the reincarnated Source, and fills HomeSec with OSA employees, and starts executing everyone on the Pacific and Atlantic seabord who's ever eaten clam chowder...

  39. Idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Travolta wearing Cage's face" was played by actor *Cage*. They didn't use Travolta plus special effects.

  40. I have a sense of humor by BurKaZoiD · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    but your linked article was about as funny as hammered shit...

  41. You'd still look mostly like you. by arloguthrie · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's not as much about the skin, fat, and muscle on your face as much as it is how the bones shape the face. The size of your nose comes from that piece of cartilidge. Cheekbones, size of head, location and depth of eyes, jawline, and smile have nothing to do with what this doctor is talking about transplanting. The only unethical problem would be giving face transplants so you can look like someone else, and I'm sure some Columbian drug cartel's retained plastic surgeon can already pull that off. I don't think this is anything to worry about...yet.

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    1. Re:You'd still look mostly like you. by redfiche · · Score: 2, Insightful
      The article did mention bone as part of what would be transplanted. Chances are if your face is destroyed, the bone is destroyed with it. IMO the recipient of a transplant would look neither like the donor nor his old self, but something in between.

      I think the biggest ethical problem is someone having this done for aesthetic reasons, regardless of who or what they will look like.

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      -- Polonius

  42. Face backup by No+Such+Agency · · Score: 3, Funny

    While I want my hard drive backup to be an exact copy, I'd prefer it if my face backup looked a little more like Bruce Campbell, thanks.

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    1. Re:Face backup by carlos_benj · · Score: 1

      While I want my hard drive backup to be an exact copy, I'd prefer it if my face backup looked a little more like Bruce Campbell, thanks.

      Boy, you'd be one funny looking chick....

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      As a matter of fact, I am a lawyer. But I play an actor on TV.

    2. Re:Face backup by dmatos · · Score: 2

      Would that be with or without the scars?

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  43. I could just see it now by codeonezero · · Score: 1

    All these Britney and NSync, and [your list of crap boy bands here] kids going under the knife just to look like their favorite pop stars.

    I wouldn't be surprised. Be prepared for the next American Idol to have 1,000 singers look like any of the before mentioned people.

    People are that insane.

    Heh, maybe it'll be like tatoos and people will say "it seemed like a good idea when i was 17, but now i think WTF was i thinking!"

    Like Homer (after eating some cyberfudge) said once "What a horrible future we live in!"
    Lisa replied: "Don't you mean present?"

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  44. rejection by Dexter's+Laboratory · · Score: 1

    So what if your body rejects your new face? When not even you can stand your own face. Now that can't be good.

  45. New "organ" donation by Flamesplash · · Score: 2

    The face is probably one of the most unused body parts for organ donors, maybe now it will become a little more important.

    Wonder, where the money would go to buy one of these things, since organ donation is supposed to be non-profit.

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    "Not knowing when the dawn will come, I open every door." - Emily Dickinson
  46. HOW ABOUT NO FACE? by Eric_Cartman_South_P · · Score: 3, Funny
    Take my face off and keep it off. Just coat me with a thin blue plastic.

    Talk about loving the Aqua skin! Now you can have Aqua Skin(TM).

    1. Re:HOW ABOUT NO FACE? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What, like those bounty hunters in the Critters movies? Or one of those wierd Chaos Lords out of Moorcock?

    2. Re:HOW ABOUT NO FACE? by sharkey · · Score: 2

      Just coat me with a thin blue plastic.

      That is SOOOO Pentium!!!. Those guys are out with the bunny people now.

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    3. Re:HOW ABOUT NO FACE? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Typical PC dweeb.

  47. Woot! by grub · · Score: 3, Funny


    I want Ron Jeremy's face!He seems to get the chicks, I assume it's just because of his darn good facial features!

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    Trolling is a art,
    1. Re:Woot! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it's his six-pack abs that do it.

  48. Is it me........ by YAN3D · · Score: 1
    or does this guy look like he's up to something?

    Shady Character

    1. Re:Is it me........ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Candidate numero uno for face transplan surgery

  49. Missing the point... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can't get past the American paradigm of plastic surgery, where 300k breast augmentation surgeries occur each year.

    There are many people in this world who cannot particpate in society becuase they are stigmatized for deformation or disfigurement.

    Look at programs like operation smile where plastic surgeons go to 3rd world countries to do reconstructive surgery on children with facial deformities.

    This is what facial transplants are all about.

  50. Enough with the skins already! by seanmeister · · Score: 5, Funny

    Winamp, Mozilla, and now THIS?? You're gonna look might silly when your face doesn't match the remaining native widgets on the rest of your body.

  51. One Question... by Whatsthiswhatsthis · · Score: 1

    Why?

    Does the doctor come in and say, "I'm sorry, but the tests results were not good. Your face has 6 months to live. I'm truly sorry. Unless we find a donor, your face will shrivel up and die."

    But where do you find a face-donor? I think I'm going to go peel that sticker off my drivers license...

  52. Bone structure, anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, it's obvious: a face transplant recipient will NOT look like the donor unless the underlying skeletal structure matches. There may be some degree of similarity between the two.

  53. take'em away by Wouter+Van+Hemel · · Score: 1
    Either way, everyone better be careful, or Nicolas Cage may try to steal their family.

    Oh, please... I'll giftwrap them even.

  54. This is great but by zomB1kenoB · · Score: 1

    What I really want is to have some pockets grafted into my ass so I have someplace to put my wallet/change/keys when I'm at the nudist camp.

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    1. Re:This is great but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Get four barbell peircings on your ass cheek. You can connect the corners of a pouch to them.

  55. No doubt... by artemis67 · · Score: 1, Redundant

    Michael Jackson will have dibs on Diana Ross's face when she passes away...

  56. Re:Slow /. day by spazoid12 · · Score: 1

    Yep. I remember using some /. feature once to prune away Jon Katz crap. Time to find that feature again and add this michael boy.

  57. Tell me one thing... by whereiswaldo · · Score: 1, Redundant

    Who the fuck is Michael Jackson trying to look like?

    1. Re:Tell me one thing... by Fapestniegd · · Score: 2

      LaToya

  58. What I want for Christmas... by GeckoFood · · Score: 2

    So, if this face transplant stuff works, can you make me look like Cindy Crawford? (with the exception of having my hairy legs and spare tire, of course)

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    1. Re:What I want for Christmas... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Doesn't seem all that unlikely.

  59. There's still hope for Saddam/Bin Laden then? by kbewley · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Hey, these two guys could do with this technology - like now! I can just hear George W's speech.. "We've found that the faces of two international terrorists have been transplicated..."

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  60. id terrorists by BigGar' · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So much for facial identification technology at airports. Hell do the hands while you're at it for the finger prints, if you're not planning on living long who cares what the antirejection drugs do to you.

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  61. Copyright Violation? by limekiller4 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I was planning on mapping my own face in case I ever needed to replace it due to some unfortunate accident (and science could manage it), but I just got a cease and desist letter from my mother. Apparently she holds the copyright. =(

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    1. Re:Copyright Violation? by kmellis · · Score: 2
      " ...but I just got a cease and desist letter from my mother. Apparently she holds the copyright." -- limekiller4
      Did your dad give up his share of the copyright on your face for your mother's share of the trademark on your name? And don't these expire after eighteen years? Or is it twenty-one?
    2. Re:Copyright Violation? by limekiller4 · · Score: 1

      kmellis writes:
      "Did your dad give up his share of the copyright on your face for your mother's share of the trademark on your name? And don't these expire after eighteen years? Or is it twenty-one?"

      Apparently my parents made the deal; dad "got some" in exchange for giving up his half of the copyright. As for the second question, she's a congresswoman. Just my luck.

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      Limekiller
  62. Transplants can kill recipients by McSpew · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Of all the reasons to have a transplant, getting a new face might be the stupidest one I've ever heard.

    Recently, doctors have begun experimental arm transplants for amputees. The first ever recipient had to have the transplanted arm removed and has said on record that if he'd known then what he knows now, he would have decided against the transplant.

    In addition to the risk of rejection, there's the very real danger caused by anti-rejection drugs which suppress the immune system. Scientists believe that immune-suppressing drugs that keep transplant recipients from rejecting their new organs or other items increase their risks of dying from infection significantly. I can't remember the exact statistic, but ISTR that a transplant recipient has something like a one in ten chance of dying within 7 years. Is it worth it to risk your life over a new face? I realize that patients with severe facial damage may want to take that risk, but overall, I'd say it's not worth the risk. Transplants should be reserved for life-saving operations, otherwise the risks are too high.

    1. Re:Transplants can kill recipients by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "1/10 chance of dying in 7 years"
      How bout a stat for those who decline a transplant? A non-vital and a vital transplant will probably have far different risk factors. That said, the faulty silicon boob-implants were apparently life threatening (source: the boobalicious MTV documentary on implants), so there's as much chance of a new face being life threatening.

    2. Re:Transplants can kill recipients by MsWillow · · Score: 2
      Scientists believe that immune-suppressing drugs that keep transplant recipients from rejecting their new organs or other items increase their risks of dying from infection significantly. I can't remember the exact statistic, but ISTR that a transplant recipient has something like a one in ten chance of dying within 7 years


      I had a cornea transplant over a decade ago. I was given some prednisolone acetate (I think) drops to use for several weeks, but after that was over, I had no further drugs.


      I'm still alive. Maybe it's not *all* transplants, or *all* drugs, that might have the problem? Though I'd rather suspect that a full face transplant would likely be major enough to need major drugs.

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    3. Re:Transplants can kill recipients by jred · · Score: 2

      Is prednisolone acetate an immune-supressing drug?

      The whole idea of immune-supression drugs freaks me out. Surely they aren't persistent. If they were, what's the difference between that & AIDS?

      I'll just keep my old face & whatever, thanks anyway.

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    4. Re:Transplants can kill recipients by Idarubicin · · Score: 2
      Prednisolone is a steroid; it's used as an anti-inflammatory.

      Immunosuppressants have long been a part of most transplant operations. And yes, for many transplants, a lifelong regimen of immunosuppressants is necessary. Patients are at increased risk of infection, but through carefully monitored doses and drug mixtures physicians try to strike a balance between preventing rejection and maintaining immune activity.

      Immunosuppressants aren't necessary for corneal transplants because unlike nearly all other tissues that may be transplanted, there are no blood vessels through the cornea. The cornea is never exposed to the ravages of the recipient's immune system.

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  63. Supply and Demand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I predict in the not-to-distant future, you'll be much better off ugly and rich, than beautiful and poorly protected.

    Sometimes my brain scares me.

  64. Mask Britannica by scotay · · Score: 1

    I think I'll pass on the British face transplant.

    Remember the Big Book of British Smiles? Perhaps England might not be the best place to find acceptable source material for potential facial transplants.

    Does England have the fashion sense to give me the face of Cage or Travolta?

    Britain might have better quality control, but I suspect the most stylish faces will come from the Italian transplants.

    1. Re:Mask Britannica by Drakin · · Score: 1

      I think you might have hit on just why the birtish have developed this...

      (kidding of course... now how long before someone hits me with a troll mod)

    2. Re:Mask Britannica by danamania · · Score: 2

      'cos those of us with brit skin don't tan, we go near a window and if we're lucky we'll come away with just a few freckles. Dare to venture outside and we're burnt raw. Swapping for skin about 3 shades darker would be a nice fix!

      (of course being ugly as sin is a... uhhh secondary reason :)

      a grrl & her server

  65. How much of a face is in soft-tissue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The issue of how close you'd look to the new face, and how much you'd retain of your old is one which has been discussed regarding a procedure of this level, and while there's a lot of character in the skin tone and fat/muscle distribution, the bony underneath of your skull does hold quite a lot of your features. Surgery on transsexuals to change facial features gives some stunning results - it's playing with the features we have most of our ability to recognise - the sex of a person judged by the face. Simply changing the eyebrow ridge from male to female shaped, and chin/jaw resculpting can drastically alter features, as much as any soft tissue.

    For examples, see the photos at;

    authentikate.com

    cinematter.com

    and

    genderpeace.com

    all who have had this facial feminisation surgery. This is not an example of surgery to make anyone particularly attractive by changing tiny features such as nose size, or a facelift, or lip-plumping, but drastic facial reconstruction, mainly only on the bony features.

    Just some info.

    1. Re:How much of a face is in soft-tissue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've had surgery with Doug Ousterhout (the surgeon who performed all the examples you listed) and I'll agree, he does stunning work. To everyone else except those who know me well I am a completely different person. From my point of view, there are a lot of similarities to my old 'male' looking face, one I spent so many years with, which I put down to being the skin which hasn't changed. To me, I still look like me because of the small moles on my jaw, a little scar above my lip, and a retarded eyebrow that kinda grows a few hairs off in the wrong direction :)

      Relatives who I see only occasionally can't believe the change, sometimes literally, My grandmother refused to accept that I could have possibly ever been her grandson, and that the rest of the family must be playing a trick on her!.

  66. ok, seriously by kin_korn_karn · · Score: 4, Informative

    the article (you DID read it, didn't you) seems to indicate that it's being pursued due to the unique nature of facial tissue than about the actual structure.

    For example, burn victims can have skin grafts, but skin from other areas of the body doesn't have the same properties as the skin that naturally develops on the face. Facial skin in particular has a much higher concentration of nerve endings than that on your upper back.

  67. "Better get yourself a new face, they know..... by longduckdong · · Score: 2, Informative

    ....what you look like now," Logan's Run.

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  68. I don't see the ethical concerns, really by raistlinjones · · Score: 1, Interesting

    As everyone else already noted, you wouldn't look all that much like the person donating anyway. Your facial bone structure would largely determine what it looks like. However, it would help people with scars, or bad acne, burns, or for any other reason that the actual skin on the face is damaged. I see absolutely no ethical problem with this procedure outside of the realm of ethical concerns about transplants in general.

  69. The 'Dead by ajlitt · · Score: 0

    Gives new meaning to "Steal Your Face", eh?

  70. Jacko may be the opposition's poster child by _Sambo · · Score: 2, Funny
    I can see it now: Support Oposition on Facial Transplants


    Under the above statement, a picture of Michael Jackson taken that day in court.


    Under the Picture: Don't let THIS happen.

    1. Re:Jacko may be the opposition's poster child by dandelion_wine · · Score: 1

      "Temple University psychiatrist Dr. Edward Volkman said Michael is not nuts. Volkman says we all care about our appearance, but Michael's behavior is an extreme version of normal." An extreme version of normal!! Is that as funny on its own as I think it is, or do I need to add something?

    2. Re:Jacko may be the opposition's poster child by Afrosheen · · Score: 2

      Let's break it down here. We're talking an extreme version of normal. Can you name 5 people that:

      1. Sleep in a hyperbaric chamber because they're paranoid about getting diseases?
      2. Lives in a gigantic mansion and invites children over to 'spend the night'?
      3. Wears a paper mask in public to avoid disease (actually so people won't see their rotten prosthetic nose-tip)?
      4. Purchased the bones to the Elephant Man for millions of dollars?
      5. Changes the underlying structure of their face as often as you and I change socks?
      6. Has a complete farce of a marriage that involves zero emotion? Ok well we'll let this one slide.

      I'd say he's pretty far from normal, downright insane actually. I liked him better when he was black and somewhat more sane. I kinda wish he'd overdose on pills or something now.

  71. Consequences by joebp · · Score: 1

    If they can get this to a decent level of authenticity, this could be cool for witness protection.

    Not to mention the possiblities to those who want to disappear.

  72. Jacko by Gyorg_Lavode · · Score: 5, Funny

    I know there's a Michael Jackson joke here somewhere...

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  73. Scalp Transplants? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If we take this idea any further will we see scalp transplants down the line?

  74. copyright issues by Damek · · Score: 2

    Hmm, who holds the copyright for my face? Me, my parents, or God? Or do we all hold copyright together? What about other members of society for various amendments and adjustments, like scars, etc?

    1. Re:copyright issues by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm one step ahead of you...I've GPL'ed my face.

    2. Re:copyright issues by Cruciform · · Score: 2

      How long before someone patents an "epidermal layer, provided for medical or aesthetic purposes, to provide coverage for the skull and aid in social interaction for individuals with severe facial deformity."...

  75. Oh, please by burgburgburg · · Score: 4, Funny

    He's at least six faces past "Phase 2".

    1. Re:Oh, please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      umm... don't you mean face 2?

  76. There's not a whole lot of danger to this by Chastitina · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Facial transplants could help so many, from folks who've survived car accidents to (as mentioned in one article) cancer patients to kids with birth defects. The surgery at best would provide the image of a normal, healthy, whole face, which is how we get a lot of non-verbal information from people. It's not like there would be a strong resemblence to the deceased due to differences in not only bone struction, but also in habitual expressions and personality.

    There's really not much chance of any one person being able to "steal" another's family or life with this technology. The recipient would have to 1) have the same physical structure, 2) be one fantastic actor, and 3) manage to imitate body odor as well. While the third may seem trivial, there's a lot of research regarding pheromone-immune system links to mate selection. The transplanted party's significant others and pets would still recognize him or her via smell.

  77. This is not something new! by fain0v · · Score: 1

    This has been going on for years.
    http://anomalies-unlimited.com/Jackson.htm l

    1. Re:This is not something new! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Somebody, mod this guy up. The site is fricken hilarious.
      Why anybody would mess up their face like that is beyond me. Probably thought money could buy anything. Yeah.. sure.

  78. DMCA Takedown by stinkydog · · Score: 3, Funny

    Will the DMCA takedown provision extended to copyrighted faces? "Rip his face off, he looks just like me". Will the megacorps be able to sneak into our houses and look at our photo albums looking for infringment? Will Al Queida develop a f2f (face to face) network to fool Tom Ridge and his merry band? Can I go faceless for halloween?

    I think it might be time for my new invention:
    The DCMA razor!
    Takes a picture of your face and checks it against it's database
    Shaves Close
    Removes your features if you look like Tom Cruise
    (don't worry, the average /. reader has nothing to fear)

    Profit!?
    SD

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  79. This will save money on cloning. by Scratch-O-Matic · · Score: 2

    You could just have a standard model, and buy the face separately.

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  80. Celebrities? by SanLouBlues · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They could lotto off their faces after they die! That'd be the charity benefit to top all charity benefits.

    As for biometrics, unless they change the underlying bone structure, shouldn't they still work (Other than skin color of course)?

    1. Re:Celebrities? by BigGar' · · Score: 1

      Only if they die young, who the hell wants to look like a hundred year old Mel Gibson.

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  81. Nicolas Cage by bstadil · · Score: 1

    After the Lisa Maria Presley fiasco I think he is currently busy Saving Face.

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  82. Re: Issues (+1, Funny, -1, Sick) by Tackhead · · Score: 3, Funny
    > The second- is what if they could do the whole deal perfectly? What if you could have some dead persons face?

    Some kid'll walk up to you and say "I see dead people!" Someone'll probably make a movie about it :)

    >I picture someone walking in a mall and they see their son who committed suicide a bit back walking by.

    That's easy. Public Service Ads.

    "Hi! We're the band members from Nirvana, and this is our new friend Michael Jackson! We'd like to remind you that being a multi-platinum rock star sucks so fucking hard that not even a brand new face can cure that gnawing need for heroin, uh, happiness, that's deep down inside there, and you finally decide to end it all, you should be a responsible citizen! Make sure to do it right! Be like Kurt! Erase Your Face!"

  83. Wotta coincidence by r_j_prahad · · Score: 2

    Just last night, my wife was also asking me if she could get more face time. "Sure", I responded, "only if I get more head time."

  84. How would this affect natural healing? by SirTwitchALot · · Score: 1

    Anyone more knowledgeable than me care to explain how this might affect healing? Say someone with a transplant nicked themself shaving, would it heal naturally, even though the body would see the tissue as being foreign?

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  85. Wow. Peter Butler is a pioneer! by teamhasnoi · · Score: 2
    He's already got a face transplant from Matthew Sweet.

    Insert obligitory reason for Michael Jackson having kids here.

  86. Face Time? by A+Swing+Dancing+Dork · · Score: 1

    Well, at least the media is coveing a science story about faces, not just the same old, who is going down on who stories.

    Come to think of it, I could use some face time, in my lap tht is.

  87. Re:Idiot. Its Travolta. by GreggyBUIUC · · Score: 0

    Actually, Nick Cage was the bad guy... its just that he was wearing Travolta's face when he came home to meet the fam.

    Been a while since you've seen this cinematic masterpiece?

  88. Gibson thought of this in the 80's. by heikkih · · Score: 1

    As the visionary he was, William Gibson described this in his novel - Mona Lisa Overdrive.

    Mona, a young girl with a murky past, is transformed to look like Angie Mitchell, simstim-star and also one of the lead characters in Count Zero. All of course in a masterly created plot which involves Mona, Angie and all of humanity.

    Now, when will se that Sprawl-trilogy on the big screen :(

  89. Good Movie by IndoorCat · · Score: 1

    Face Off really was enjoyable. How can you go wrong with the world class acting abilities of John Travolta and Nicholas ... BWAHAHAHHAHAH! Not even I could say *that* with a straight 'face'.

  90. I would... by devphil · · Score: 2


    ...stand up, stagger backwards, and snarl, "I must find a new host body!"

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  91. Obligatory Douglas Adams tribute by crawdaddy · · Score: 1

    Visit the donor's family and right before leaving, don't forget to say "So long and thanks for all the face!"

  92. Something That HAS To Be Said by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Can you transplant anyone's face onto another's? Then you could say:

    All your FACE are belong to us.

  93. You can have mine, but you don't want to be me by ryochiji · · Score: 2

    Trust me. You can take my face if you want, but if you want to be me...well, no, you don't want to be me. Unlike other people, being me requires hell of a lot more than having my looks. You need to do stuff like code all night, run around in circles flapping your arms, eat all kinds of weird crap, not bathe very often, and also (perhaps as a result?) not get laid for months at a time.

    Being me ain't easy. You've been warned.

    1. Re:You can have mine, but you don't want to be me by Fnkmaster · · Score: 1
      You need to do stuff like code all night, run around in circles flapping your arms, eat all kinds of weird crap, not bathe very often, and also (perhaps as a result?) not get laid for months at a time.


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  94. Wait a minute... by H0NGK0NGPH00EY · · Score: 1

    You mean, they haven't been able to do this since the 1940's? I thought for sure I had heard of this somewhere, though...

    p.s.(no, this is not a lame face-off joke, but I doubt many people here have ever heard of "the man who looks like Boris Karloff." Oh well.)

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  95. For Some by Malicious · · Score: 1
    For the large number of you who don't actually read the articles before posting: Most of the article is about replacing Skin, Muscle, and Nerves, not bone structure (which defines how you look)

    So if you're oriental, and still you want to look like Bruce Campbell, you're still going to have to replace your hand with a chain saw, and get a chin implant, and fight off the evil dead 3 times. This isn't going to do it alone.

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  96. Face Replacement by Malicious · · Score: 2, Funny
    Face Transplant is a lot to say...

    I vote we call it a FacePlant instead.

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  97. I heard this story on NPR by bheerssen · · Score: 1

    and they talked some about the moral implications of such procedures, but I just don't get it. Think about that lady in recent anti-drunk-driving commercials - the one with her face burned beyond recognition. She is, unfortunately, not alone. Procedures such as this one could go a long way to repairing what must surely be a broken life. What we're talking about here is very complicated, drastic, and necessary. Nobody is going to have a new face put on because of a few wrinkles. Only those that truly need a new face would consider it. This is a very involved procedure and is not to be undertaken lightly.

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  98. IN SOVIET RUSSIA by $0.02 · · Score: 1

    Stalin would have taken Lenin's face - then Khrushchov would do the same. So Lenin would live forever.

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    1. Re:IN SOVIET RUSSIA by SunPin · · Score: 0

      Your face transplants YOU!

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  99. Science has caught up with Saturday Night Live by King+Louie · · Score: 1

    There was a Saturday Night Live skit about this back when John Belushi was still part of the cast (that is, back when it was funny). It had Garret Morris as a football player who was the recipient of a "donor" face that allowed him to live a normal life. The catch was that he received the face of a nine-year-old white girl. There were others, but his was the main character. So really, this is just a very old idea with a new audience.

    I'm glad to see that scientists have been spending my tax dollar trying to bring SNL to life. As if life weren't strange enough already.

    1. Re:Science has caught up with Saturday Night Live by cybermace5 · · Score: 2

      Except that it wasn't American scientists doing the research, so it would be your tax pound if you lived in England.

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  100. Re: Michael Jackson picture by tomhudson · · Score: 2

    See what happens when you pick your nose and the air-bag goes off!

  101. And you've found the ultimate solution... by BoomerSooner · · Score: 2

    to the eternal question, "How to get laid as a computer nerd?"

  102. Good for the transgendered community by blueskyred · · Score: 2
    Transgendered people can physically reshape their bodies, though you need a ton of time, money, and ability to cut through miles of red tape. Transwomen can get hormones to grow the chest they want, and Transmen can get their breasts removed with surgery. Sexual-reassignment surgery is long-documented as well. You can even get your Adam's Apple "shaved" down, if you want! (Ouch!)

    One persistent problem for Transpeople to "pass" as their inner gender is their face. Some women faces just can't "wear" a male gender. And in reverse, it can be even harder.

    I guess the Transgendered community can add this to the list of expensive surgeries that can't be afforded.

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  103. Cn't be sure by BoBaBrain · · Score: 1

    How do the boffins know this works? Presumably they have tested it on rabbits, but they all look the same anyway.

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  104. No Ethical Questions by yelligsc · · Score: 1

    If the person donating or selling the face concents, and the person recieveing the face concents there are no ethical issues.

    Scott.

  105. Darkman... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hope these things last more than 99 minutes

  106. Age old problem fixed by bace · · Score: 0
    This technology fixes the problem of the girl with a great body but ugly face
    (a prawn we like to call them, because you rip the head off and eat the rest):P
    Fit ugly people rejoice

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  107. I've got an idea! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Time to patent your face so that nobody else can use it.

  108. This has been done before by TheRealMunger · · Score: 0

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Hannibal Lecter pioneer this technique in 'Silence Of The Lambs'?

  109. Modular faces (Re:Forget transplants...) by kilroy_hau · · Score: 1

    Not exactly tom cruise, but here you go!

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  110. This is old news... by facelessnumber · · Score: 1

    I've already donated mine.

  111. Popular mechanics by aneiken · · Score: 1

    I was reading a couple months back that they had reconstructed the face of jesus sooo with this could some crazy preacher have someone reconstruct his face to look like jesus and run amuck. Just a thought

  112. Wouldn't that be trademark? by Zinho · · Score: 2

    If I recall correctly, clowns trademark their faces, and somewhere all the registered faces are stored, painted on egg shells. If a clown wears another clown's face without permission, the law suit is over trademark violation.

    Which brings up an interesting point; should actors trademark their own faces? I've heard that the actors from Cheers have already had problems with people using their likenesses without permission. The movie The Crow showed that it's possible to put an actor's face on a stunt double if there's budget for it. Having a trademark on your likeness could be an important part of acting in the future.

    Of course, if Hollywood were like the music industry, the studio would want to hold the trademark. It would sure suck if you quit, but your contract said you couldn't act anymore because the producers own your face. Even worse, they keep on making movies using your face a la S1m0ne.

    Pandora's box really opens up when you happen to look like Mel Gibson, and you want to go into acting, but you can't because your face infringes on his trademark. In a particularly barbaric world I could even see the ruling stipulate that if you want to act you must get a facial scar of some sort. Even in this (only semi-barbaric) world, I really don't think that I'd want, as a judge, to have to set precendent for facial infringement and how close the match needs to be to qualify. How would you even measure that?

    With any luck the courts would simply throw it out, but with the amount the Studios can afford to pay their lawyers, who knows...

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  113. ultimate and unique by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    once, at least, most probably (unless the chick's a brain-donor - slim, but still a chance) >:>

  114. now we have an answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    to what you will do when the monkey wants it's arse back

  115. CNC face production by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Medical technology today can make substrates sculpted to pratically any shape, to be infused with cells that take over, adopt the shape and absorb the substrate.

    Some guys are experimenting with "castless" fracture-healing. They inject a polymer into the damaged area (after reduction and "cleanup", I suppose) and wait until it sets. Bone cells migrate into the polymer, occupy, substitute, and the body then absorbs it. The patient could be walking normally in days instead of a month-and-a-half. Animal trials were mentioned.

    If you "3dfax" a face, infuse different parts with appriopriate "-trophics" and seed each with different base cells (muscle, nerve, fat, membranes, x), and then graft the mess onto the patient...

    Actually, reconstruction is just a beginning. Extension and "creative adornment" should'nt be much more difficult. Anthropomorphic - or not. Heavy-metal fans, just wait !

    On the other hand, imagine Carl Sagans - millions and millions of them !

    1. Re:CNC face production by treat · · Score: 2
      The patient could be walking normally in days instead of a month-and-a-half. Animal trials were mentioned.

      The person who breaks those cat legs for the trial must qualify for most brutal job in the world.

  116. Some guys trying out the Luna Skin by Jugalator · · Score: 2

    Damn Microsoft zealots changing their skin to the Luna Style. They have to be members of this network. :-P

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  117. New spin on identity theft. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    If you can transplant a face, a full set of fingertips ought not to be much of a challenge.

  118. scary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've seen pictures of breast implants gone wrong. This could plain be straight out of a horror movie.

    "At the same time, the recipient would have to have their face, facial muscles, skin and subcutaneous fat removed."

  119. So if you're handsome... by mtec · · Score: 2, Funny

    You might wake up in some cheap hotel in a bathtub full of ice ... *insert Psycho sound effects here* ...WITH NO FACE!!!!!

    Sounds like a great new Urban Myth!

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  120. Let's Analyze this: by luisdlc · · Score: 1

    I guess everybody here knows that 'transplanting' the SKIN of a face to another 'face' would never create what we recognize as a face.

    A face is the result of the bone configuration the muscle development (depending on the gestures a person does), fat, and less important: skin.

    This is why the explanation in 'face off' was not a good one.

    Ok I RTFA, and they don't talk about a skin transplant, they include everything, so now let's bite:

    In order for the face transplant to work, nerves that control feeling and movement would have to be attached to be successful.

    RIGHT! attach nerves? it could be done but not at a detailed level, for that you would need to 'attach' axons that are in fact part of a cell. And to attach each with the one the SHOULD be.
    Every 'nerve' is a pack of a LOT of axons. If this can be done I see much more important transplantations like, HAND transplants for example.
    If anyone knows of this kind of transplants please tell me.

    Thing is, that you wouldn't get a face, you would be getting an organic MASK. Bye bye proper face movement.

    In addition, advances in suppressing the immune system's response to foreign tissue would give the procedure a better chance of success. Ah! and of course, let's not forget that transplanting you something means giving you an AIDS gift. If you don't figure it out read again the SUPPRESSING IMMUNE SYSTEM again. This is why transplants are life/death case last option.

    I don't see this 'technology' coming in the next months as the article said, not at least at a desirable level.

  121. Nicolas Cage stealing my family? by bananahammock · · Score: 0

    No Sweat. It'll only be for four months before divorce proceedings sent the whole clan back.

  122. Re: Issues (+1, Funny, -1, Sick) by Reziac · · Score: 2

    And be sure to visit the New You Shop!!

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  123. Can't have an open casket? by dagg · · Score: 2
    People would be hesitant to donate their faces. You definitely could not have an open casket funeral if your face is gone. For many families... that is a big deal.
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