Yeah, well fuck you too. Jokes, even dark ones, about people losing their livihoods at the hands of their own government are as funny as you getting cancer of the mouth. Ha ha ha. You're a laugh a minute...
A few things...
1.) Glib jerks who post jokes about this topic haven't had this happen to them... yet. If you're one of them, good luck to you when it happens, but I hope you recall joking about it when it eventually does. It won't be so funny then.
2.) This practice is old news, like coming up on 20 years old. The real story is that nobody fucking cares!!! See point 1. above: not even many in tech seem to care that this has been happening for years, so much so, it is a joke meme: H1-B's replace indiginous tech workers... LOL.
3.) Go ahead and look into it: There are no laws with actual teeth in them to prevent this or even discourge it: doing so would piss off rich political donors, like Bill Gates, Larry Ellison, etc. Why do that? Enforcement falls to the US DOL, which couldn't give a shit that local tech workers are displaced. The DOL also have no real idea about how many foreign workers are actually in the country working. This is fact. They don't track them. The only governanace is in how many new H1-B's are issued each year (they are allocated usually on the first day of issue).
4.) The issued H1-B slots are almost all claimed by job shops who only employ H1-B's. This is why, when a foreign worker is fired or laid off from a local job they are not deported: they are never employed by the "employer" but by a job shop, so on paper they are still employed, even though they've been terminated by the "employer". The job shop them moves them to another company, perhaps lowering the rate they charge for that worker to make them more marketable. Wash, rinse, repeat.
I almost skipped posting this because its been done and done so much its old. But people who joke about this are assholes and, at least, deserve to be informed assholes.
I spent 20 years contracting in Silicon Valley after working for Apple in the late 80's. I could tell lots of stories relative to the OP's question, but I am going to boil this down for you young whippersnappers who are going to down-vote this post no matter what. I found a few reasons why OP would ask these questions:
1. Some managers, particularly under age 40, are assholes who, even in this connected age, if they can't see you typing away all day, right under their noses, believe you are "not productive", a term others seem to toss around in their answers. What is productive? 100 lines of code a day, or 20 lines that actually work? What proof? Well how about the silly ass religious adoption of "agile" methodologies. How can everybody look over each other's shoulders if they aren't all in the "hive"? Clearly, these managers have never worked with someone with serious experience. The mania for groupthink management has always originated in academia, where the rubber meets the sky when it comes to shipping anything more than research projects, not real commercial work.
2. Managers hiring "older workers" object to paying them nearly as much (or more) than they themselves make. The younger the manager, the worse this is an issue. They prefer to hire people younger (and cheaper) than themselves.
3. Younger managers don't possess the life experience to appreciate hiring people who are smarter or more experienced than themselves. They feel threatened by experience, not appreciative of it. And they are naively convinced that hiring two younger, cheaper guys is a better bet than hiring one, more expensive, more experienced one. They end up with crap code that maybe works and rarely scales or is resource efficient. I made lots of money mopping up after exactly these kinds of failures.
4. And lest I come off as a "young manager hater", most older managers suffer from some of the same issues, particularly the "I don't want to pay you as much as me" and "I don't believe you are working unless I can see you". But they are even less likely to hire offsite workers, frequently being utterly ignorant of the collaboration technologies that are in common use today.
So I don't believe there is any misconception about there being age discrimination in the business of software development. I have seen it first hand. But being old or having 30 years' experience does not give anybody a right to a job. You have to have relevant experience. I figure everything in this business is obsolete in about 3 years, so anybody who has more than 3 years of experience has to have learned new technologies in order to remain relevant. This cycle never stops and it gets shorter every year. But even if you have the latest tech under your belt, there are still age and location to consider. I beat them by remaining current, networking constantly, and living where the work is. Anything less will make it harder. But that doesn't invalidate the points above. Of course, YMMV.
The hilarity of this is that other California cities didn't think of it first and make their own pitch to Amazon. Now you hear them crying "boo hoo". Other tax grabbing wankers are pouting, "Oooh, that's not how sales taxes are supposed to be used!". Winers! Taxation is corrupt in the first place, so you want to object to how that particular sales tax money will be used? Sounds like sour grapes! One local goobermint screwing another over money!: I'm LMFAO... Where's the popcorn?
Hogwash. I've lived in CA for 25 years and the only thing I expect is the roads to be maintained and for public schools to be operated. Everything else I get is fee for service (utilities, trash pickup, etc). The only Californians I know of demanding services are people who don't pay jack shit into the system in the first place, just like everywhere else in this bankrupt country.
The article title reads: "Steve Jobs Questioned In iTunes Monopoly Suit". QUESTIONED??? This hasn't happened yet, so Jobs has not been questionED. Bullshit troll article title.
This is easily misleading. If Mr. Crupnick means "album buyers", he is more likely to be correct than if by "buyers" he meant total number of customers buying music. The fact that people can now easily purchase single songs when they previously were forced to buy entire albums in order to get only one or two songs they really wanted might have something to do with this. In fact, it might have everything to do with such a typically misleading music industry claim.
One thing is for sure: If they drop the URL bar, it will increase the use of search and, thus, increase the click through to ad-words sites. Nothing like a pretty fucking obvious money-making move on their part, eh?
It should come as no surprise that the Wall Street Journal would publish an article asserting that publishing the Pentagon Papers is "different" than what Wikileaks is doing. Why? To help set the stage for justifying the government resurrecting the Espionage Act of 1917 to prosecute Assange, and killing all dissent since we are supposedly "at war" (Iraq, Afghanistan, War on Terrorism, War on Drugs, etc. ad nauseum). Of course, there has been no formal Declaration of War by Congress, as required by Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution. But since the U.S. Government doesn't actually seem to protect and enforce the Constitution any longer, WTF matters?
Companies don't trust their employees and Chrome is a sandbox within a sandbox. This is a good thing in the corporate world where centralized control is valuable.
Chrome is a very thin client that really works.
And you need a whole new OS for this? What about using *nix machines, setting the login shell to/usr/bin/firefox and limiting the network accessibility to the corporate LAN? You could have done this many years ago and wouldn't need a new OS to do it. As for thin client, ChromeOS is nothing more than what I just described with a specialized browser with customized hooks for Google's proprietary app world/framework. Bletch.
This makes perfect sense once you understand that the majority of the people working on ChromeOS (in Google's Kirkland offices) are Microsoft refugees. Since most people psychologically try to solve problems in their new jobs they were unable to solve at their previous ones, what better way to keep from having the most virus infested OS on the planet than to prevent anybody from ever installing or changing anything! I bet the colleagues they left behind at Microsoft are envious beyond belief.
So Google is appointing a Director of Privacy, Alma Whitten, from the UK, the country with more surveilance cammeras per person than any other country on the planet. She assures us that, "We are now strengthening our internal privacy and security practices with more people, more training and better procedures and compliance." Oh just wonderful! With all the Chinese programmers at Google, it really makes me feel really much more secure. China is such a bastion of personal privacy, what could possibly go wrong?
It does seem that they were very focused on being able to extract the oil rather than just stopping the leak. Now, I'm not an engineer, but could their desire for continued extraction of oil have delayed their plans, made the stack more complex?
I thought the same thing, but I have consistently read in the last several weeks that the well that blew up was an exploration well not a production well. So there was no plan to take that well, as it was, into production.
A teacher friend of mine told me the real reason why public schools push potential ADHD kids into Ritalin treatment, and its not about behavior. Its that once a child is diagnosed as ADHD and on medication, they are categorized as having a "learning disability" and the school gets more Federal funding.
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Courses and lessons like music, art, dance and drama are being removed from schools as they continue to focus more on academic performance and (for those kids who show talent) performance on the football pitch or the basketball court or whatever.
Here in California, they've gotten rid of all that and the sports as well. The reason isn't to focus on teaching to the test (though, for sure, they do just that), but because the teachers' unions have maximized their pay rates and consumed what little public money existed for teaching only the basics. Its all about money, as usual. I volunteered as an art teacher in elementary school for 3 years just so my kids would have some art in school. And to be fair, more than half of the money spent on "teachers salaries" actually goes to administrators who never set foot in the classroom. Teachers are underpaid and a real minority in the "teachers union". The rest are paper pushers who suck the system dry of money for their salaries, health benefits, and pensions. The kids get screwed. California public schools are rated 46th in the nation today.
Pretty brutal. I searched to see if there was follow-up to the police beating. The person who was beaten, Duanna Johnson, was shot to death later the same year in Memphis. I wonder where the two cops in the beating video were on the night Johnson was shot? Here is a link to a follow-up story on the homicide.
Pretty brutal. I searched to see if there was follow-up to the police beating. The person who was beaten, Duanna Johnson, was shot to death later the same year in Memphis. I wonder where the two cops in the beating video were on the night Johnson was shot? Here is a link to a follow-up story on the homicide.
If anybody is laughing their ass off about this story, it would be Steve Jobs. If the apps removed were more or less harmless, what did Google really accomplish by deciding to "exercise our remote application removal feature", other than to teach users once again, that Google really can't be trusted?
I recently joined Google; I'm pushing 40, with almost 20 years of experience when I joined. There's a lot of new grads around here, but a lot of older engineers as well.
Pushing 40, meaning you are what? 38? You are barely older than the most senior guy who interviewed me. All but one were less than half my age.
Maybe they thought you were being condescending to them. I never asked my interviewers about their experience; it hardly mattered.
Nope. I have been self employed for 20 years. I am interviewed every time I get a contract, which is at least a few times a year. I am very experienced talking (politely) with both technical and business professionals. The interviews, all six of them, were entirely civil. All were interesting, and a couple of them were even fun. But Google's hiring process is the screwiest I have ever seen. The interviewers do not know whether you will be a co-worker of theirs or not. And you, the interviewee, do not know who would be your prospective co-workers. If you think this hardly matters, I heartily disagree with you. It matters a lot to me whom I will be working with. Despite Google's broken attitude about this, programmers are not interchangeable components, like light bulbs.
I work in an office; shared, true, with two other engineers. But few companies have private offices for engineers.
I don't mind a small shared office too much. But what I witnessed were large rooms with 10+ people and no partitions or privacy of any kind. Yuck!
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Yeah, well fuck you too. Jokes, even dark ones, about people losing their livihoods at the hands of their own government are as funny as you getting cancer of the mouth. Ha ha ha. You're a laugh a minute...
A few things... 1.) Glib jerks who post jokes about this topic haven't had this happen to them... yet. If you're one of them, good luck to you when it happens, but I hope you recall joking about it when it eventually does. It won't be so funny then. 2.) This practice is old news, like coming up on 20 years old. The real story is that nobody fucking cares!!! See point 1. above: not even many in tech seem to care that this has been happening for years, so much so, it is a joke meme: H1-B's replace indiginous tech workers... LOL. 3.) Go ahead and look into it: There are no laws with actual teeth in them to prevent this or even discourge it: doing so would piss off rich political donors, like Bill Gates, Larry Ellison, etc. Why do that? Enforcement falls to the US DOL, which couldn't give a shit that local tech workers are displaced. The DOL also have no real idea about how many foreign workers are actually in the country working. This is fact. They don't track them. The only governanace is in how many new H1-B's are issued each year (they are allocated usually on the first day of issue). 4.) The issued H1-B slots are almost all claimed by job shops who only employ H1-B's. This is why, when a foreign worker is fired or laid off from a local job they are not deported: they are never employed by the "employer" but by a job shop, so on paper they are still employed, even though they've been terminated by the "employer". The job shop them moves them to another company, perhaps lowering the rate they charge for that worker to make them more marketable. Wash, rinse, repeat. I almost skipped posting this because its been done and done so much its old. But people who joke about this are assholes and, at least, deserve to be informed assholes.
I spent 20 years contracting in Silicon Valley after working for Apple in the late 80's. I could tell lots of stories relative to the OP's question, but I am going to boil this down for you young whippersnappers who are going to down-vote this post no matter what. I found a few reasons why OP would ask these questions: 1. Some managers, particularly under age 40, are assholes who, even in this connected age, if they can't see you typing away all day, right under their noses, believe you are "not productive", a term others seem to toss around in their answers. What is productive? 100 lines of code a day, or 20 lines that actually work? What proof? Well how about the silly ass religious adoption of "agile" methodologies. How can everybody look over each other's shoulders if they aren't all in the "hive"? Clearly, these managers have never worked with someone with serious experience. The mania for groupthink management has always originated in academia, where the rubber meets the sky when it comes to shipping anything more than research projects, not real commercial work. 2. Managers hiring "older workers" object to paying them nearly as much (or more) than they themselves make. The younger the manager, the worse this is an issue. They prefer to hire people younger (and cheaper) than themselves. 3. Younger managers don't possess the life experience to appreciate hiring people who are smarter or more experienced than themselves. They feel threatened by experience, not appreciative of it. And they are naively convinced that hiring two younger, cheaper guys is a better bet than hiring one, more expensive, more experienced one. They end up with crap code that maybe works and rarely scales or is resource efficient. I made lots of money mopping up after exactly these kinds of failures. 4. And lest I come off as a "young manager hater", most older managers suffer from some of the same issues, particularly the "I don't want to pay you as much as me" and "I don't believe you are working unless I can see you". But they are even less likely to hire offsite workers, frequently being utterly ignorant of the collaboration technologies that are in common use today. So I don't believe there is any misconception about there being age discrimination in the business of software development. I have seen it first hand. But being old or having 30 years' experience does not give anybody a right to a job. You have to have relevant experience. I figure everything in this business is obsolete in about 3 years, so anybody who has more than 3 years of experience has to have learned new technologies in order to remain relevant. This cycle never stops and it gets shorter every year. But even if you have the latest tech under your belt, there are still age and location to consider. I beat them by remaining current, networking constantly, and living where the work is. Anything less will make it harder. But that doesn't invalidate the points above. Of course, YMMV.
The hilarity of this is that other California cities didn't think of it first and make their own pitch to Amazon. Now you hear them crying "boo hoo". Other tax grabbing wankers are pouting, "Oooh, that's not how sales taxes are supposed to be used!". Winers! Taxation is corrupt in the first place, so you want to object to how that particular sales tax money will be used? Sounds like sour grapes! One local goobermint screwing another over money!: I'm LMFAO... Where's the popcorn?
Of course, they still demand all the services.
Hogwash. I've lived in CA for 25 years and the only thing I expect is the roads to be maintained and for public schools to be operated. Everything else I get is fee for service (utilities, trash pickup, etc). The only Californians I know of demanding services are people who don't pay jack shit into the system in the first place, just like everywhere else in this bankrupt country.
The article title reads: "Steve Jobs Questioned In iTunes Monopoly Suit". QUESTIONED??? This hasn't happened yet, so Jobs has not been questionED. Bullshit troll article title.
“A generation which ignores history has no past -- and no future.” - Robert Heinlein
We have lost 20 million buyers in just five years
This is easily misleading. If Mr. Crupnick means "album buyers", he is more likely to be correct than if by "buyers" he meant total number of customers buying music. The fact that people can now easily purchase single songs when they previously were forced to buy entire albums in order to get only one or two songs they really wanted might have something to do with this. In fact, it might have everything to do with such a typically misleading music industry claim.
One thing is for sure: If they drop the URL bar, it will increase the use of search and, thus, increase the click through to ad-words sites. Nothing like a pretty fucking obvious money-making move on their part, eh?
This sounds like more zero tolerance police state crap. Have a look at this: http://www.lewrockwell.com/whitehead/whitehead26.1.html
Thanks. But you should have told me that 10 years ago.
No 30 years ago, damn it.
It should come as no surprise that the Wall Street Journal would publish an article asserting that publishing the Pentagon Papers is "different" than what Wikileaks is doing. Why? To help set the stage for justifying the government resurrecting the Espionage Act of 1917 to prosecute Assange, and killing all dissent since we are supposedly "at war" (Iraq, Afghanistan, War on Terrorism, War on Drugs, etc. ad nauseum). Of course, there has been no formal Declaration of War by Congress, as required by Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution. But since the U.S. Government doesn't actually seem to protect and enforce the Constitution any longer, WTF matters?
Companies don't trust their employees and Chrome is a sandbox within a sandbox. This is a good thing in the corporate world where centralized control is valuable.
Chrome is a very thin client that really works.
And you need a whole new OS for this? What about using *nix machines, setting the login shell to /usr/bin/firefox and limiting the network accessibility to the corporate LAN? You could have done this many years ago and wouldn't need a new OS to do it. As for thin client, ChromeOS is nothing more than what I just described with a specialized browser with customized hooks for Google's proprietary app world/framework. Bletch.
This makes perfect sense once you understand that the majority of the people working on ChromeOS (in Google's Kirkland offices) are Microsoft refugees. Since most people psychologically try to solve problems in their new jobs they were unable to solve at their previous ones, what better way to keep from having the most virus infested OS on the planet than to prevent anybody from ever installing or changing anything! I bet the colleagues they left behind at Microsoft are envious beyond belief.
So Google is appointing a Director of Privacy, Alma Whitten, from the UK, the country with more surveilance cammeras per person than any other country on the planet. She assures us that, "We are now strengthening our internal privacy and security practices with more people, more training and better procedures and compliance." Oh just wonderful! With all the Chinese programmers at Google, it really makes me feel really much more secure. China is such a bastion of personal privacy, what could possibly go wrong?
This story is old fucking news. Things must be pretty slow at Slashdot to stoop to posting this story again...
It does seem that they were very focused on being able to extract the oil rather than just stopping the leak. Now, I'm not an engineer, but could their desire for continued extraction of oil have delayed their plans, made the stack more complex?
I thought the same thing, but I have consistently read in the last several weeks that the well that blew up was an exploration well not a production well. So there was no plan to take that well, as it was, into production.
Any chance they could use this stupidity to outlaw advertising? I mean, sound and lights that affect human behavior and all...
The amount of Ritalin consumed in America from 1990 to 1998 almost quadrupled (link to chart). Might that have something to do with it?
A teacher friend of mine told me the real reason why public schools push potential ADHD kids into Ritalin treatment, and its not about behavior. Its that once a child is diagnosed as ADHD and on medication, they are categorized as having a "learning disability" and the school gets more Federal funding.
Courses and lessons like music, art, dance and drama are being removed from schools as they continue to focus more on academic performance and (for those kids who show talent) performance on the football pitch or the basketball court or whatever.
Here in California, they've gotten rid of all that and the sports as well. The reason isn't to focus on teaching to the test (though, for sure, they do just that), but because the teachers' unions have maximized their pay rates and consumed what little public money existed for teaching only the basics. Its all about money, as usual. I volunteered as an art teacher in elementary school for 3 years just so my kids would have some art in school. And to be fair, more than half of the money spent on "teachers salaries" actually goes to administrators who never set foot in the classroom. Teachers are underpaid and a real minority in the "teachers union". The rest are paper pushers who suck the system dry of money for their salaries, health benefits, and pensions. The kids get screwed. California public schools are rated 46th in the nation today.
Pretty brutal. I searched to see if there was follow-up to the police beating. The person who was beaten, Duanna Johnson, was shot to death later the same year in Memphis. I wonder where the two cops in the beating video were on the night Johnson was shot? Here is a link to a follow-up story on the homicide.
Pretty brutal. I searched to see if there was follow-up to the police beating. The person who was beaten, Duanna Johnson, was shot to death later the same year in Memphis. I wonder where the two cops in the beating video were on the night Johnson was shot? Here is a link to a follow-up story on the homicide.
If anybody is laughing their ass off about this story, it would be Steve Jobs. If the apps removed were more or less harmless, what did Google really accomplish by deciding to "exercise our remote application removal feature", other than to teach users once again, that Google really can't be trusted?
I recently joined Google; I'm pushing 40, with almost 20 years of experience when I joined. There's a lot of new grads around here, but a lot of older engineers as well.
Pushing 40, meaning you are what? 38? You are barely older than the most senior guy who interviewed me. All but one were less than half my age.
Maybe they thought you were being condescending to them. I never asked my interviewers about their experience; it hardly mattered.
Nope. I have been self employed for 20 years. I am interviewed every time I get a contract, which is at least a few times a year. I am very experienced talking (politely) with both technical and business professionals. The interviews, all six of them, were entirely civil. All were interesting, and a couple of them were even fun. But Google's hiring process is the screwiest I have ever seen. The interviewers do not know whether you will be a co-worker of theirs or not. And you, the interviewee, do not know who would be your prospective co-workers. If you think this hardly matters, I heartily disagree with you. It matters a lot to me whom I will be working with. Despite Google's broken attitude about this, programmers are not interchangeable components, like light bulbs.
I work in an office; shared, true, with two other engineers. But few companies have private offices for engineers.
I don't mind a small shared office too much. But what I witnessed were large rooms with 10+ people and no partitions or privacy of any kind. Yuck!