Re:ACLU Acts on Principles, Not Popular Perception
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Now answer me this question: Why does the ACLU insist on enforcing Atheism in my schools, in my government, and in my courts? Why are they trying to force the hand of government to respect one religions (Atheism, Islam) over another (Christianity, Judaism)? Why am I not allowed to pray in schools, whether it be to God, Eloheim, or to Allah?
Please cite evidence as to when the ACLU has tried to stop someone from praying in school. What they try to stop is people in positions of authority from leading prayers in schools. Private prayer is your own business, and the ACLU I believe has worked to get people the right to have private prayer time in school if they want it.
Why is it that (in this country) Christian conservatives feel they are being discriminated against if they are not allowed to impose their religion on others?
ASL (and other sign languages) aren't just word-for-word translations of Englis (and other spoken languages); they are true languages with their own unique grammar. Any attempt at an on-the-fly translation would, it seems to me, result in a muddle that would make the Babelfish sound like Shakespeare.
I used to love Axis and Allies so much as a kid... it seems that it would be relatively easy to translate to a computer game (w/out all the bells and whistles of a "real" simulation). Anyone know if anyone's done this?
IE for Mac is being made, just not as a standalone browser. If you sign up for MSN for OS X, you get an integrated AOL-style browser app whose user agent identifies it as IE 6.
I know, the worry is here, too. A lot of FUD is being spread deliberately by anti-gay ministers to their congregations. I'm just saying that the worry has no grounds in legal reality, at least in the US. There is simply no way a court in the US can force a religious body to perform a ceremony or alter its beliefs.
The problem is the worry that churches will lose the right to not marry gays.
This just isn't true. The Catholic Church doesn't permit the remarriage of divorcees with living spouses. The US government does. Yet the Catholic Church cannot be forced to perform a wedding involving a divorced person.
Religious and civil mariages are entirely separate institutions in the US, a fact masked by the fact that the vast majority of married people have both done. My mother and my stepfather were married in judge's chambers (as it happens, because he is a divorced Catholic). They are married in the eyes of the law. A man I worked with was married to his male partner by a very liberal Episcopal church in San Francisco. They are not married in the eyes of the law.
The gay marriage debate, in the US anyway, is about whether civil marriage and its legal benefits should apply to a same-sex couple. Religion is a smokescreen. Any religious group is welcome to refuse to recognize any marriage that the state sanctions - and to sanction a marriage that the state refuses to recognize.
OK, though it seems impossible based on the near-daily SCO coverage here, I feel like I've missed something major here.
I thought the beef was that SCO claims to know for sure that some of its code got into the Linux kernel, and claims to believe that IBM is the company that contributed this code to said Linux kernel.
So, now SCO demands that IBM stop selling AIX. Buh? By their own logic, shouldn't they demand that IBM (and everyone else, for that matter, but let's start big) stop using the SCO-code-stealing Linux? What the hell does AIX have to do with anything?
A question: If this ever gets to court, will SCO have to reveal its proprietary code in open court in order to prove that Linux has ripped it off? If so, won't that just disseminate their code further ?
Read the last paragraph of the article, it is pretty telling. Airbus expects the majority of the orders for the A380 to go to Pacific rim carriers. The same carriers that use 747s for all flights all day long now. In that market it is well suited. (hundreds of people flying 8-12 hours on average, most all flights direct). For trans-Atlantic flights it is overkill.
A (non Concorde) flight from NY to Heathrow takes just about as long as a flight from NY to LA. The only really long flight out of the US is LA to Hawaii, but there's not enough demand on that route to make replacing 747s with A380s feasible.
There are plenty of flights to Europe from the US West Coast. I've flown San Francisco-Frankfurt and San Francisco-London routes -- both 12+ hour flights.
I currently have Earthlink DSL. Will this ruling mean that the local phone companies here won't have to offer Earthlink access to their lines? In other words, does this mean that the only company you'll be able to get DSL through is your phone provider?
>Well, yes, but from what I understand this pile of >junk mail supports the post office. Now spam >supports no one and steals resources from >everybody's networks.
Actually, junk mail is sent at bulk mailing rates so low that in fact it costs the post office money, which they then pass on in the form of 1st class mail stamps. All postal rate increases have to be set by congress, and the direct mailing industry has a powerful lobby, so it is very difficult to get those bulk rates increased.
My former CEO said all the ludicrous things listed here, plus a couple others. At one point, he referred to the process of revealing to our investors the (sorry) state of our finances as "opening the kimono". He also referred to the Website that was his personal baby as our "dollars and eyeballs" site. (This site was neither the most visited nor the most profitable, by the way, but it was one that he developed rather than inheriting it from a previous version of the company, so it was what he cared about.)
Neither of the images generated by these phrases were pleasant.
The UK is the only country in the world that, by dispensation of the international postal union, doesn't have to put its name on its postage stamps. This is because the UK was the first country to have postage stamps, so when they were introduced obviously there was no need to differentiate them from anyone else's.
You can think of the US's disregard for the.us domain in the same way.
my parents divorced in August 1977, when I was 3 years and 1 month old. I have one distinct memory of them living together: I got up out of my bed walked into the room where my mom was; she said "Hi, twerp" (her pet name for me). I then turned and saw my dad at the top of the stairs; he had just come out of the shower and had a towel around his waist. He said "Hi bozo!"
I have to suspect that this memory is real because it's not the sort of anecdote that a grownup would tell a child later (I recently mentioned it to both parents and they don't have any memory of it). Maybe the immediate juxtaposition of the two nicknames made it memorable to me at the time.
mmmkay, didn't know that. sametime *does* interoperate with aim clients though (i can use aim to communicate w/my friends using their sametime clients), which is why i thought this might be the same thing. i imagine the new product will work very much like sametime, at any rate.
AOL will NOT be monitoring AIM communications -- what this product essentially does is set up a private network WITHIN a company, based on the AIM protocols. It is that internal communication that is being monitored -- and not by AOL but by the company that buys the software from AOL. I imagine that the users will be able to use their clients to communicate with other AIM users outside their network, but if they don't want to be monitored, they can just download the standard free AIM client and use that instead.
Several of my friends work for IBM, and they have been using something like this software, called Sametime, for a couple years. Sametime may have been a beta of this product.
as a peacenik myself, this is not a flame. i've often thought that a politician with a more doveish line would have more clout if s/he was a former military officer or enlistee. the current president and most of his top policy makers don't have real backgrounds in the regular military (the exceptions being colin powell, who is not thought to have bush's ear on policy issues, and donald rumsfeld, who served a brief stint in the air force). a liberal like john kerry with real combat experience can serve as a contrast to the stay-at-home, daddy-got-me-a-national-guard slot like bush or quayle.
How can we possibly not know anything about the Great White Shark? The Discovery Channel does endless TV specials on them!
Maybe we need to do spend more time studying their reproductive systems and less time poking them in the testicles until they lunge at the poor steak-sauce covered cameraman in the cage in order to scare the folks at home.
Is Slashdot wonky? Right now this story comes up as having been posted by CowboyNeal -- I can't remember ever seeing him as an author before. Except now a bunch of recent stories are also CowboyNeal posted. Am I losing my mind or is the slashcode on the fritz?
jf
Re:[Slightly OT] nitpick time...
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latin is "word poor" one verbum has many english translations
"you should have" may be the most literal version of poor habeas
but to render it most idiomatically: "bring forth the body"
I can see that abortion is not something that is explicitly in the constitution, but I can't understand why people think that teacher- or administrator-led school prayer can be constitutional. The logic goes like this:
1) The 1st amendment says that Congress can't establish (that is, make official) a religion in the US. 2) Numerous court rulings have held that the bill of rights applies to state and local governments in addition to Congress. (If you disagree with that we'd all be pretty screwed, rights-wise, as the state gov's could suppress free speech, establish offical state churches, etc.) 3) Public schools are funded by the state and have their policies and agendas set by elected school boards (which are government bodies). 4) If a school official leads a prayer, then the government is telling citizens (students) that the religion associated with that prayer is correct, and therefore is establishing an official state religion.
Of course, nothing in the constitution or court precedent prevents a student from praying quietly to him/her self, or requesting accommodation to pray on his/her own outside of class.
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Now answer me this question: Why does the ACLU insist on enforcing Atheism in my schools, in my government, and in my courts? Why are they trying to force the hand of government to respect one religions (Atheism, Islam) over another (Christianity, Judaism)? Why am I not allowed to pray in schools, whether it be to God, Eloheim, or to Allah?
Please cite evidence as to when the ACLU has tried to stop someone from praying in school. What they try to stop is people in positions of authority from leading prayers in schools. Private prayer is your own business, and the ACLU I believe has worked to get people the right to have private prayer time in school if they want it.
Why is it that (in this country) Christian conservatives feel they are being discriminated against if they are not allowed to impose their religion on others?
jf
I would just add that:
I really fail to see how you can draw a line between "click-thru license" and "indentured servitude" unless...
You have no idea what actual indentured servitude was like. Sheesh.
jf
ASL (and other sign languages) aren't just word-for-word translations of Englis (and other spoken languages); they are true languages with their own unique grammar. Any attempt at an on-the-fly translation would, it seems to me, result in a muddle that would make the Babelfish sound like Shakespeare.
jf
ditto "hooterzzz".
jf
I used to love Axis and Allies so much as a kid ... it seems that it would be relatively easy to translate to a computer game (w/out all the bells and whistles of a "real" simulation). Anyone know if anyone's done this?
jf
IE for Mac is being made, just not as a standalone browser. If you sign up for MSN for OS X, you get an integrated AOL-style browser app whose user agent identifies it as IE 6.
jf
I know, the worry is here, too. A lot of FUD is being spread deliberately by anti-gay ministers to their congregations. I'm just saying that the worry has no grounds in legal reality, at least in the US. There is simply no way a court in the US can force a religious body to perform a ceremony or alter its beliefs.
The problem is the worry that churches will lose the right to not marry gays.
This just isn't true. The Catholic Church doesn't permit the remarriage of divorcees with living spouses. The US government does. Yet the Catholic Church cannot be forced to perform a wedding involving a divorced person.
Religious and civil mariages are entirely separate institutions in the US, a fact masked by the fact that the vast majority of married people have both done. My mother and my stepfather were married in judge's chambers (as it happens, because he is a divorced Catholic). They are married in the eyes of the law. A man I worked with was married to his male partner by a very liberal Episcopal church in San Francisco. They are not married in the eyes of the law.
The gay marriage debate, in the US anyway, is about whether civil marriage and its legal benefits should apply to a same-sex couple. Religion is a smokescreen. Any religious group is welcome to refuse to recognize any marriage that the state sanctions - and to sanction a marriage that the state refuses to recognize.
jf
Maybe that's a good short term strategy, but in the long term, our French and German friends may be wishing they had more offensive weapons some day.
Did you just say you wanted Germany to start building offensive weapons? Makes sense, I guess. Sure can't see how that would be a bad idea.
jf
OK, though it seems impossible based on the near-daily SCO coverage here, I feel like I've missed something major here.
I thought the beef was that SCO claims to know for sure that some of its code got into the Linux kernel, and claims to believe that IBM is the company that contributed this code to said Linux kernel.
So, now SCO demands that IBM stop selling AIX. Buh? By their own logic, shouldn't they demand that IBM (and everyone else, for that matter, but let's start big) stop using the SCO-code-stealing Linux? What the hell does AIX have to do with anything?
jf
A question: If this ever gets to court, will SCO have to reveal its proprietary code in open court in order to prove that Linux has ripped it off? If so, won't that just disseminate their code further ?
jf
since this set of ISS crewmen went up in the shuttle...
and since when they went up they assumed that they were going back down in the shuttle...
and since there was a different set up people in that soyuz capsule when it was launched...
and since that soyuz capsule was originally going to be the return trip for the people who brought up the *next* soyuz...
how did this trio get custom-built seats?
jf
Read the last paragraph of the article, it is pretty telling. Airbus expects the majority of the orders for the A380 to go to Pacific rim carriers. The same carriers that use 747s for all flights all day long now. In that market it is well suited. (hundreds of people flying 8-12 hours on average, most all flights direct). For trans-Atlantic flights it is overkill.
A (non Concorde) flight from NY to Heathrow takes just about as long as a flight from NY to LA. The only really long flight out of the US is LA to Hawaii, but there's not enough demand on that route to make replacing 747s with A380s feasible.
There are plenty of flights to Europe from the US West Coast. I've flown San Francisco-Frankfurt and San Francisco-London routes -- both 12+ hour flights.
jf
I currently have Earthlink DSL. Will this ruling mean that the local phone companies here won't have to offer Earthlink access to their lines? In other words, does this mean that the only company you'll be able to get DSL through is your phone provider?
jf
>Well, yes, but from what I understand this pile of >junk mail supports the post office. Now spam >supports no one and steals resources from >everybody's networks.
Actually, junk mail is sent at bulk mailing rates so low that in fact it costs the post office money, which they then pass on in the form of 1st class mail stamps. All postal rate increases have to be set by congress, and the direct mailing industry has a powerful lobby, so it is very difficult to get those bulk rates increased.
My former CEO said all the ludicrous things listed here, plus a couple others. At one point, he referred to the process of revealing to our investors the (sorry) state of our finances as "opening the kimono". He also referred to the Website that was his personal baby as our "dollars and eyeballs" site. (This site was neither the most visited nor the most profitable, by the way, but it was one that he developed rather than inheriting it from a previous version of the company, so it was what he cared about.)
Neither of the images generated by these phrases were pleasant.
jf
The UK is the only country in the world that, by dispensation of the international postal union, doesn't have to put its name on its postage stamps. This is because the UK was the first country to have postage stamps, so when they were introduced obviously there was no need to differentiate them from anyone else's.
.us domain in the same way.
You can think of the US's disregard for the
my parents divorced in August 1977, when I was 3 years and 1 month old. I have one distinct memory of them living together: I got up out of my bed walked into the room where my mom was; she said "Hi, twerp" (her pet name for me). I then turned and saw my dad at the top of the stairs; he had just come out of the shower and had a towel around his waist. He said "Hi bozo!"
I have to suspect that this memory is real because it's not the sort of anecdote that a grownup would tell a child later (I recently mentioned it to both parents and they don't have any memory of it). Maybe the immediate juxtaposition of the two nicknames made it memorable to me at the time.
jf
mmmkay, didn't know that. sametime *does* interoperate with aim clients though (i can use aim to communicate w/my friends using their sametime clients), which is why i thought this might be the same thing. i imagine the new product will work very much like sametime, at any rate.
jf
AOL will NOT be monitoring AIM communications -- what this product essentially does is set up a private network WITHIN a company, based on the AIM protocols. It is that internal communication that is being monitored -- and not by AOL but by the company that buys the software from AOL. I imagine that the users will be able to use their clients to communicate with other AIM users outside their network, but if they don't want to be monitored, they can just download the standard free AIM client and use that instead.
Several of my friends work for IBM, and they have been using something like this software, called Sametime, for a couple years. Sametime may have been a beta of this product.
jf
as a peacenik myself, this is not a flame. i've often thought that a politician with a more doveish line would have more clout if s/he was a former military officer or enlistee. the current president and most of his top policy makers don't have real backgrounds in the regular military (the exceptions being colin powell, who is not thought to have bush's ear on policy issues, and donald rumsfeld, who served a brief stint in the air force). a liberal like john kerry with real combat experience can serve as a contrast to the stay-at-home, daddy-got-me-a-national-guard slot like bush or quayle.
jf
How can we possibly not know anything about the Great White Shark? The Discovery Channel does endless TV specials on them!
Maybe we need to do spend more time studying their reproductive systems and less time poking them in the testicles until they lunge at the poor steak-sauce covered cameraman in the cage in order to scare the folks at home.
jf
Is Slashdot wonky? Right now this story comes up as having been posted by CowboyNeal -- I can't remember ever seeing him as an author before. Except now a bunch of recent stories are also CowboyNeal posted. Am I losing my mind or is the slashcode on the fritz?
jf
latin is "word poor"
one verbum has many
english translations
"you should have" may be
the most literal version
of poor habeas
but to render it
most idiomatically:
"bring forth the body"
look at a flower
from every angle
see it uniquely
I can see that abortion is not something that is explicitly in the constitution, but I can't understand why people think that teacher- or administrator-led school prayer can be constitutional. The logic goes like this:
1) The 1st amendment says that Congress can't establish (that is, make official) a religion in the US.
2) Numerous court rulings have held that the bill of rights applies to state and local governments in addition to Congress. (If you disagree with that we'd all be pretty screwed, rights-wise, as the state gov's could suppress free speech, establish offical state churches, etc.)
3) Public schools are funded by the state and have their policies and agendas set by elected school boards (which are government bodies).
4) If a school official leads a prayer, then the government is telling citizens (students) that the religion associated with that prayer is correct, and therefore is establishing an official state religion.
Of course, nothing in the constitution or court precedent prevents a student from praying quietly to him/her self, or requesting accommodation to pray on his/her own outside of class.
jf