Oh great. That really puts my mind at ease! </sarcasm>
So you admit Google is way worse than Apple - there is some hope for you. It should relieve you that they don't send data to either of those partners from devices with iPhone OS 3.2 or higher.
As far as I am aware, no other mobile manufacturer have put terms in that "Your location data will be stored and sold".
Neither does Apple.
From Apple's Terms; "Apple and our partners and licensees may collect, use, and share precise location data, including the real-time geographic location of your Apple computer or device. "
Oh yeah, of course they'll give it to their 'partners' for 'free'. That's so much 'better'.
Their "partners" being Skyhook and Google. All that is detailed in the letter, what data is transmitted and why. Didn't you repeatedly claim you read it? Oh, right, you also repeatedly proved you at least didn't understand what your average 8 year old would.
No, the differences is that Apple isn't doing what you claim they do,
Hang on; they're legally entitled to have your location data, but they're not doing it? Despite you agreeing to it? Where did you get this information?
Can't even remember what you claimed they do, ehh?
...See Footnote 8 on page 7, and Footnote 9 on pages 8 and 9. Which clearly states that "Apple does not retain this GPS Information in its database". Ohh, and "location-based services [has to be} toggled to "On"."
Nice try, though
Right, despite that on page 12 it says the total opposite? Did you actually bother to read it?
If he doesn't let third party apps, Apple won't get any data either. End of story.
WRONG. Read the PDF, top of page 12: "Anonymous Wi-Fi Access Point information and GPS co-ordinates may also be collected when an iPhone is using GPS to search for a cellular network.".
So even when not using an app, even if you have Location Services disabled, you might still be submitting your location to Apple.
... so they can tell you which channels the nearest cell towers use, so you connect faster. See Footnote 8 on page 7, and Footnote 9 on pages 8 and 9. Which clearly states that "Apple does not retain this GPS Information in its database". Ohh, and "location-based services [has to be} toggled to "On"."
It's so typical to see people like you with your 'Apple vs. the World' and 'Apple vs. whichever close competitor' mindset.
The resurgence of Anti-Apple fucktards is just staggering. Let me be the first to inform you that your type has been around since about 1976 when Mr. Jobs announced the Apple 1.
So the difference between Apple and Google is that Google are asking and making it clear that "Collection will occur even when no applications are running". Presumably you can also disable on Android?...whereas Apple are hiding it in their Terms and conditions, and making it unknown whether this functionality can be disabled by disabling Location Services.
No, the differences is that Apple isn't doing what you claim they do, while Google promised that their Street View cars only collected WiFi data needed for their location services, nothing else - until it turned out they did so much more. But a fanboy like you has probably already forgotten.
You seem to be missing the point. Apple specifically indicated to Congress that they anonymize location data by assigning a unique random ID every 24 hours.
Actually, Apple did not once mention any ID of an iPhone in their letter. TFA made that up. I repeat: that is not in the 13-page reply to questions from Congressmen Ed Markey of Massachusetts and Joe Barton of Texas. Again "Attached to the GPS data is a random identification number generated by the phone every 24 hours." is not backed up by anything in the information provided by Apple.
Not to mention that the Congressman apparently suffers from AADD if he can't read through a 13-page report written in more or less plain English. And, yes, I did read the linked PDF file. It wasn't exactly gripping but I had no problem getting though it.
Actually, I think he's talking about Apple's Privacy Policy - which is as long as it is due to requirements of the law.
Wow, a new ID every 24 hours, huh? Am I supposed to be impressed? What do you think, are they deliberately creating "anonymizing" measures they can circumvent, or are they just retarded?
Considering this "24 hour ID" is not mentioned anywhere in the information provided by Apple but only in the article - you'll have to ask the author of TFA.
why is it when I point to localised evidence of cooling as proof AGW is bullshit, AGW supporters give me a line about global temps being the only valid data. but when there's some local event like ice melting on a mountain, it's considered rockhard evidence by AGW supporters?!
Ohh, it isn't evidence for AGW - it just hints at the fact that your rantings about Himalayagate should result in an public excuse because the mistake was on your side after all.
Yaeh, I know, this is Slashdot, so we are going to have trolls like you who will drop off their load on anything remotely about Apple. So go ahead, poop your brains out. You still can't change facts though.
Either Apple has made a fake video, or RIM is lying - so what is it Herr Strawmonster? Fess up what your point actually was, or if you had one to begin with.
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That was sarcasm, by the way.
The partners are Google and Skyhook.
Oh great. That really puts my mind at ease! </sarcasm>
So you admit Google is way worse than Apple - there is some hope for you. It should relieve you that they don't send data to either of those partners from devices with iPhone OS 3.2 or higher.
As far as I am aware, no other mobile manufacturer have put terms in that "Your location data will be stored and sold".
Neither does Apple.
From Apple's Terms; "Apple and our partners and licensees may collect, use, and share precise location data, including the real-time geographic location of your Apple computer or device. " Oh yeah, of course they'll give it to their 'partners' for 'free'. That's so much 'better'.
Their "partners" being Skyhook and Google. All that is detailed in the letter, what data is transmitted and why. Didn't you repeatedly claim you read it? Oh, right, you also repeatedly proved you at least didn't understand what your average 8 year old would.
No, the differences is that Apple isn't doing what you claim they do,
Hang on; they're legally entitled to have your location data, but they're not doing it? Despite you agreeing to it? Where did you get this information?
Can't even remember what you claimed they do, ehh?
...See Footnote 8 on page 7, and Footnote 9 on pages 8 and 9. Which clearly states that "Apple does not retain this GPS Information in its database". Ohh, and "location-based services [has to be} toggled to "On"."
Nice try, though
Right, despite that on page 12 it says the total opposite? Did you actually bother to read it?
Unlike you, I understood it.
If he doesn't let third party apps, Apple won't get any data either. End of story.
WRONG. Read the PDF, top of page 12: "Anonymous Wi-Fi Access Point information and GPS co-ordinates may also be collected when an iPhone is using GPS to search for a cellular network.". So even when not using an app, even if you have Location Services disabled, you might still be submitting your location to Apple.
... so they can tell you which channels the nearest cell towers use, so you connect faster. See Footnote 8 on page 7, and Footnote 9 on pages 8 and 9. Which clearly states that "Apple does not retain this GPS Information in its database". Ohh, and "location-based services [has to be} toggled to "On"."
Nice try, though.
So, because I don't trust Apple, I should trust Apple's app to shut off the gps in Apple's hardware?
Oooo-kay!
Gee, why don't you buy an Android then - Google has shown over and over again that they can be trusted.
The resurgence of Anti-Apple fucktards is just staggering. Let me be the first to inform you that your type has been around since about 1976 when Mr. Jobs announced the Apple 1.
iAds collects the data unless the whole location service system is turned off, and it's on by default.
No it doesn't. Learn to read.
So the difference between Apple and Google is that Google are asking and making it clear that "Collection will occur even when no applications are running". Presumably you can also disable on Android? ...whereas Apple are hiding it in their Terms and conditions, and making it unknown whether this functionality can be disabled by disabling Location Services.
No, the differences is that Apple isn't doing what you claim they do, while Google promised that their Street View cars only collected WiFi data needed for their location services, nothing else - until it turned out they did so much more. But a fanboy like you has probably already forgotten.
As far as I am aware, no other mobile manufacturer have put terms in that "Your location data will be stored and sold".
Neither does Apple.
You seem to be missing the point. Apple specifically indicated to Congress that they anonymize location data by assigning a unique random ID every 24 hours.
Actually, Apple did not once mention any ID of an iPhone in their letter. TFA made that up. I repeat: that is not in the 13-page reply to questions from Congressmen Ed Markey of Massachusetts and Joe Barton of Texas. Again "Attached to the GPS data is a random identification number generated by the phone every 24 hours." is not backed up by anything in the information provided by Apple.
I don't need 13 pages of document to explain the location collection policies.
Neither does Apple. Did RTFA, hrmm?
Not to mention that the Congressman apparently suffers from AADD if he can't read through a 13-page report written in more or less plain English. And, yes, I did read the linked PDF file. It wasn't exactly gripping but I had no problem getting though it.
Actually, I think he's talking about Apple's Privacy Policy - which is as long as it is due to requirements of the law.
Wow, a new ID every 24 hours, huh? Am I supposed to be impressed? What do you think, are they deliberately creating "anonymizing" measures they can circumvent, or are they just retarded?
Considering this "24 hour ID" is not mentioned anywhere in the information provided by Apple but only in the article - you'll have to ask the author of TFA.
Yeah but what do they use the data for? It's nice that they admit they collect this info, but for what purpose.
RTFPDF.
why is it when I point to localised evidence of cooling as proof AGW is bullshit, AGW supporters give me a line about global temps being the only valid data. but when there's some local event like ice melting on a mountain, it's considered rockhard evidence by AGW supporters?!
Ohh, it isn't evidence for AGW - it just hints at the fact that your rantings about Himalayagate should result in an public excuse because the mistake was on your side after all.
So what does the Ice Age have to do with the drastic rise of temperatures in the last century (and the coming)?
http://crackberry.com/poll-can-you-replicated-apples-reported-bold-9700-antenna-issues-your-device-i-cant 14% is a fucking lot for problem that doesn't exist.
It's a well known fact that the RDF works best on guys like you - you are completely detached from reality.
Confimed my arse. A blackberry perhaps can maybe sometimes drop signal when you wrap your entire hand around it.
Look at the picture - hardly "wrapped your entire hand around it".
So what is the rate of dropped calls? And would your CrackBerry even have receptions where those calls were dropped?
Yaeh, I know, this is Slashdot, so we are going to have trolls like you who will drop off their load on anything remotely about Apple. So go ahead, poop your brains out. You still can't change facts though.
You are trying the strawman argument
Either Apple has made a fake video, or RIM is lying - so what is it Herr Strawmonster? Fess up what your point actually was, or if you had one to begin with.
Nope. Wrong. I have 1. Doesn't do it.
Others have already confirmed it - you are deep in denial.