Ignore any sides of the bias for a minute, and you realize that Bill is right. Anyone who has ever tried to set up a secure network can tell you one thing: You don't need secure OSes if your network interface doesn't let hackers through. You don't need e-mail virus scanners if your e-mail program doens't allow viruses to be run. You don't need spyware killers if you use your computer with any intelligence.
Barring the last, it would seem that MS is heading in the right direction -- nothing is perfect, but it doesn't need to be perfect, only secure.
You don't hear too many people complaining about how terrible Windows 2000 is, do you? Not unless they have shit hardware or something.
If MS manages to deliver, which is a big if, both because they're not exactly trustworthy in terms of delivering, even now, and because they're being pretty ambitious with this project, I wouldn't be suprised if the only people left bitching are the obsessive-compulsives who can't tell when a joke is dead. It's already heading that way with XP.
Yeah, they're both stealing. Sco is stealing more though. The final result of having all GPL'd software placed in the public domain would be true theft of IP rights on a scale unheard of....ever.
It would make little Timmy downloading some music off the internet look like nothing in comparison.
Oh dear god. Combined with the recent BBC article which showed that Fox News viewers overwhelmingly believed false facts about the war in Iraq (for instance, There have been no WMDs found in Iraq yet, and there were never any real links to Al Queda -- these are facts, don't try to argue with me, because if you do, you're probably a Fox news viewer)
Dear god...Poor America. It really is becoming stupider...and it's not even the peoples fault. It's FOX's!
Also keep in mind that since the Linux platform's development is decentralized, SCO isn't stealing from just one person, it's stealing from thousands, maybe even millions. Each and every person to contribute to a GPL'd project stolen by SCO for use in OpenLinux has a leagal right to sue SCO right now, and if they succeed in getting all the GPL'd code in the world turned over the the Public Domain, Every person who has ever written a GPL'd program can sue the US government for a blatant theft of billions of lines of code.
You don't need to create an armageddon bug to research an armageddon bug. It's something just BEGGING to be stolen by terrorists.
Since we have can easily map viral genomes, I don't see any reason to create, cultivate, and test these killer weapons. Aspects of the virus can be created without actually making one that's invincible.
As it stands, we have one more unholy killing machine in the world for terrorists to get their hands on. How happy and joyful...
I dunno. To me, there seems to be a fine line between an explosion that can be controlled and a virus that kills everything it touches. You're not going to need a killer virus to produce a new energy source. You're not going to be able to use the information on how to create a deadly virus to figure out how the universe works......in fact, the only thing you learn really well from creating an uncontrollable killer virus is how to create an uncontrollabel killer virus...
Interesting how this looks after I've made a couple alterations... (Keep in mind this is only a joke, please don't bother with flamewars, because you probably don't even understand what you're looking at)
My fellow citizens, events in America have now reached the final days of decision.
For more than a decade, The United Nations have pursued patient and honourable efforts to disarm the American regime without war.
That regime pledged to reveal and destroy all of its weapons of mass destruction as a condition for peace.
Since then, the world has engaged in 12 years of diplomacy.
We have passed more than a dozen resolutions in the United Nations Security Council.
We have sent hundreds of weapons inspectors to oversee the disarmament of America.
Our good faith has not been returned.
The American regime has used diplomacy as a ploy to gain time and advantage.
It has uniformly defied Security Council resolutions demanding disarmament.
Over the years, UN weapons inspectors have been threatened by American officials, electronically bugged and systematically deceived.
Peaceful efforts to disarm the American regime have failed again and again because we are not dealing with peaceful men.
Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the American regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised.
This regime has already used weapons of mass destruction against Other nations and against America's people.
The regime has a history of reckless aggression in the Middle East.
It has a deep hatred of Canada and our friends and it has aided, trained and harboured terrorists, including operatives of Al-Queda.
The danger is clear: using chemical, biological or, one day, nuclear weapons obtained with the help of their supporters, the terrorists could fulfil their stated ambitions and kill thousands or hundreds of thousands of innocent people in our country or any other.
The Canada and other nations did nothing to deserve or invite this threat, but we will do everything to defeat it.
Instead of drifting along toward tragedy, we will set a course toward safety.
Before the day of horror can come, before it is too late to act, this danger will be removed.
The United Nations has the sovereign authority to use force in assuring international security.
Recognising the threat to our world, the United Nations voted overwhelmingly last year to support the use of force against America.
The UN tried to work with Congress to address this threat because we wanted to resolve the issue peacefully.
We believe in the mission of the Americans.
One reason the UN was founded after the Second World War was to confront aggressive dictators actively and early, before they can attack the innocent and destroy the peace.
George Bush and his sons must leave Iraq within 48 hours
In the case of America, the Security Council did act in the early 1990s.
Under Resolutions 678 and 687, both still in effect, the Canada and our allies are authorised to use force in ridding America of weapons of mass destruction.
This is not a question of authority, it is a question of will.
Last September, I went to the UN General Assembly and urged the nations of the world to unite and bring an end to this danger.
On 8 November, the Security Council unanimously passed Resolution 1441, finding America in material breach of its obligations and vowing serious consequences if America did not fully and immediately disarm.
Today, no nation can possibly claim that America has disarmed.
And it will not disarm so long as George W. Bush holds power.
For the last four and a half months, the United States and our allies have worked within the Security Council to enforce that council's long-standing demands.
Yet some permanent members of the Security Council have publicly annou
That would be because there is no "hacker community" as such. Certainly some groups of programmers get together to collaberate of projects, but as a whole, hackers are by their very nature, splintered. Having a symbol would represent a unity which simply doesn't exist.
I don't know. I've always thought of mozilla as "Frontpage for linux". In fact, I've found it to be superior in ways to Frontpage for Windows, for reasons such as greater stability, better standards compliance (Remember that IE's "standards" aren't even consistent between versions), smaller code, and infinitely better price. I did some commercial work with it a couple years back, and found it to be fine for intranet pages, and I haven't done a personal website in ages without it.
My favorite quote of the day: 'I stand here before you as representing the MPAA, one of the leading advocates of First Amendment rights...' I think I blacked out for a minute after that."
You misunderstand. They meant THIER first ammendment rights. They should be allowed to make movies about terrorists chopping up babies and selling it as dog food to the communists. Why? Because they're big. Everyone knows big media cartels have more rights than computer "hackers". After all, which of the two can afford to bribe politicians?
Make no mistake, from the beginning I've understood that trying to understand the pseudoscience is kind of like trying to fight a cyberdemon with a spork, so I'm just having some fun pushing around theories which instead try to wrap what we do know about the world around what we know about the ST universe.:)
Obviously these guys do stuff other than test models of the Enterprise all day long. What I'm asking is, how could the mere act of doing that test for fun somehow hurt their odds with the opposite sex?
If it wasn't stolen so often, no home users would use it at all. It's only profitable because of business markets, who have no choice but to buy it, lest they get BSA'd. I was talking about home users.
To be fair, most people found the price to be right only because they didn't have to pay for it. I mean, who would go out of their way to fork over 200 dollars for a copy of Windows XP or 400(That was what it was costing the chain back when I was working retail) for a copy of Office, when they can go to their local computer geek, announce proudly, "Burn me a copy of Windows and Office, Geek!" and recieve both for the princely sum of 10 dollars for the media?
I bet that if Microsoft somehow found itself with a way to make people pay for their software, MS Office would magically find itself displaced by something like Sun Openoffice. I'd also be willing to bet that windows would remain as popular as ever. 200 dollars is a small price to pay for all your software to keep working.
That would make sense. Remember that episode where they got the guy on-board who tried to change the angle of the deflector shields to make the ship faster and ended up sending the ship to voodoo land?
Keeping in mind that it IS just a TV show, so they can do things like remodulate the tachyon emitters when they're in trouble, I thought about this in the last 15 seconds, and I'm guessing they extend an intertial dampening field around the ship, causing the air molecules that collide with the ship to retan less of the resulting energy, while the structural integrity field ensures that the molecules that do impact don't cause damage.
If that was the case though, it makes you wonder why weapons fire does anything to the ships, seeing as the energy averted by the atmospheric damage negators would be infinite, so a simple phased energy beam or antimatter explosion shouldn't really be that bad.
Fsck it. Trying to fit impossible spaceships in a universe composed entirely of pseudoscience into our understanding of the universe is like trying to lift an ocean with your bare hands -- just too much to begin with, and it usually shifts just as you get a handle on it.:)
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don't get into semantics with me, boy. I'll mop the floor with you.
And you're an AC who thinks everyone who disagrees with him must be working for the enemy.
Better call up Linus Torvalds, because he said nearly the same thing in a recent interview.
Ignore any sides of the bias for a minute, and you realize that Bill is right. Anyone who has ever tried to set up a secure network can tell you one thing: You don't need secure OSes if your network interface doesn't let hackers through. You don't need e-mail virus scanners if your e-mail program doens't allow viruses to be run. You don't need spyware killers if you use your computer with any intelligence.
Barring the last, it would seem that MS is heading in the right direction -- nothing is perfect, but it doesn't need to be perfect, only secure.
If there's a reason to bitch they will.
You don't hear too many people complaining about how terrible Windows 2000 is, do you? Not unless they have shit hardware or something.
If MS manages to deliver, which is a big if, both because they're not exactly trustworthy in terms of delivering, even now, and because they're being pretty ambitious with this project, I wouldn't be suprised if the only people left bitching are the obsessive-compulsives who can't tell when a joke is dead. It's already heading that way with XP.
Yeah, they're both stealing. Sco is stealing more though. The final result of having all GPL'd software placed in the public domain would be true theft of IP rights on a scale unheard of....ever.
It would make little Timmy downloading some music off the internet look like nothing in comparison.
Oh dear god. Combined with the recent BBC article which showed that Fox News viewers overwhelmingly believed false facts about the war in Iraq (for instance, There have been no WMDs found in Iraq yet, and there were never any real links to Al Queda -- these are facts, don't try to argue with me, because if you do, you're probably a Fox news viewer)
Dear god...Poor America. It really is becoming stupider...and it's not even the peoples fault. It's FOX's!
Also keep in mind that since the Linux platform's development is decentralized, SCO isn't stealing from just one person, it's stealing from thousands, maybe even millions. Each and every person to contribute to a GPL'd project stolen by SCO for use in OpenLinux has a leagal right to sue SCO right now, and if they succeed in getting all the GPL'd code in the world turned over the the Public Domain, Every person who has ever written a GPL'd program can sue the US government for a blatant theft of billions of lines of code.
You don't need to create an armageddon bug to research an armageddon bug. It's something just BEGGING to be stolen by terrorists.
Since we have can easily map viral genomes, I don't see any reason to create, cultivate, and test these killer weapons. Aspects of the virus can be created without actually making one that's invincible.
As it stands, we have one more unholy killing machine in the world for terrorists to get their hands on. How happy and joyful...
I dunno. To me, there seems to be a fine line between an explosion that can be controlled and a virus that kills everything it touches. You're not going to need a killer virus to produce a new energy source. You're not going to be able to use the information on how to create a deadly virus to figure out how the universe works... ...in fact, the only thing you learn really well from creating an uncontrollable killer virus is how to create an uncontrollabel killer virus...
Interesting how this looks after I've made a couple alterations... (Keep in mind this is only a joke, please don't bother with flamewars, because you probably don't even understand what you're looking at)
My fellow citizens, events in America have now reached the final days of decision.
For more than a decade, The United Nations have pursued patient and honourable efforts to disarm the American regime without war.
That regime pledged to reveal and destroy all of its weapons of mass destruction as a condition for peace.
Since then, the world has engaged in 12 years of diplomacy.
We have passed more than a dozen resolutions in the United Nations Security Council.
We have sent hundreds of weapons inspectors to oversee the disarmament of America.
Our good faith has not been returned.
The American regime has used diplomacy as a ploy to gain time and advantage.
It has uniformly defied Security Council resolutions demanding disarmament.
Over the years, UN weapons inspectors have been threatened by American officials, electronically bugged and systematically deceived.
Peaceful efforts to disarm the American regime have failed again and again because we are not dealing with peaceful men.
Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the American regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised.
This regime has already used weapons of mass destruction against Other nations and against America's people.
The regime has a history of reckless aggression in the Middle East.
It has a deep hatred of Canada and our friends and it has aided, trained and harboured terrorists, including operatives of Al-Queda.
The danger is clear: using chemical, biological or, one day, nuclear weapons obtained with the help of their supporters, the terrorists could fulfil their stated ambitions and kill thousands or hundreds of thousands of innocent people in our country or any other.
The Canada and other nations did nothing to deserve or invite this threat, but we will do everything to defeat it.
Instead of drifting along toward tragedy, we will set a course toward safety.
Before the day of horror can come, before it is too late to act, this danger will be removed.
The United Nations has the sovereign authority to use force in assuring international security.
Recognising the threat to our world, the United Nations voted overwhelmingly last year to support the use of force against America.
The UN tried to work with Congress to address this threat because we wanted to resolve the issue peacefully.
We believe in the mission of the Americans.
One reason the UN was founded after the Second World War was to confront aggressive dictators actively and early, before they can attack the innocent and destroy the peace.
George Bush and his sons must leave Iraq within 48 hours
In the case of America, the Security Council did act in the early 1990s.
Under Resolutions 678 and 687, both still in effect, the Canada and our allies are authorised to use force in ridding America of weapons of mass destruction.
This is not a question of authority, it is a question of will.
Last September, I went to the UN General Assembly and urged the nations of the world to unite and bring an end to this danger.
On 8 November, the Security Council unanimously passed Resolution 1441, finding America in material breach of its obligations and vowing serious consequences if America did not fully and immediately disarm.
Today, no nation can possibly claim that America has disarmed.
And it will not disarm so long as George W. Bush holds power.
For the last four and a half months, the United States and our allies have worked within the Security Council to enforce that council's long-standing demands.
Yet some permanent members of the Security Council have publicly annou
That would be because there is no "hacker community" as such. Certainly some groups of programmers get together to collaberate of projects, but as a whole, hackers are by their very nature, splintered. Having a symbol would represent a unity which simply doesn't exist.
I don't know. I've always thought of mozilla as "Frontpage for linux". In fact, I've found it to be superior in ways to Frontpage for Windows, for reasons such as greater stability, better standards compliance (Remember that IE's "standards" aren't even consistent between versions), smaller code, and infinitely better price. I did some commercial work with it a couple years back, and found it to be fine for intranet pages, and I haven't done a personal website in ages without it.
My favorite quote of the day: 'I stand here before you as representing the MPAA, one of the leading advocates of First Amendment rights...' I think I blacked out for a minute after that."
You misunderstand. They meant THIER first ammendment rights. They should be allowed to make movies about terrorists chopping up babies and selling it as dog food to the communists. Why? Because they're big. Everyone knows big media cartels have more rights than computer "hackers". After all, which of the two can afford to bribe politicians?
Make no mistake, from the beginning I've understood that trying to understand the pseudoscience is kind of like trying to fight a cyberdemon with a spork, so I'm just having some fun pushing around theories which instead try to wrap what we do know about the world around what we know about the ST universe. :)
Obviously these guys do stuff other than test models of the Enterprise all day long. What I'm asking is, how could the mere act of doing that test for fun somehow hurt their odds with the opposite sex?
It's really hard to give a better price than free.
Miicrosoft has learned this lesson well in it's battle against Netscape.
You do realize how much Office costs, right?
If it wasn't stolen so often, no home users would use it at all. It's only profitable because of business markets, who have no choice but to buy it, lest they get BSA'd. I was talking about home users.
To be fair, most people found the price to be right only because they didn't have to pay for it. I mean, who would go out of their way to fork over 200 dollars for a copy of Windows XP or 400(That was what it was costing the chain back when I was working retail) for a copy of Office, when they can go to their local computer geek, announce proudly, "Burn me a copy of Windows and Office, Geek!" and recieve both for the princely sum of 10 dollars for the media?
I bet that if Microsoft somehow found itself with a way to make people pay for their software, MS Office would magically find itself displaced by something like Sun Openoffice. I'd also be willing to bet that windows would remain as popular as ever. 200 dollars is a small price to pay for all your software to keep working.
Ah yes, the "Chicken and egg" legal defense. I think I remember Johnny Cochrane using that one at the OJ trial.
That would make sense. Remember that episode where they got the guy on-board who tried to change the angle of the deflector shields to make the ship faster and ended up sending the ship to voodoo land?
-Hot grits
-Natalie Portman
-Soviet Russia
-Steve Ballmer, while doing his crazy monkey dance
-*BSD(because it's dying)
Should make for an interesting Slashdot article, at the very least.
In another thread on Slashdot. :)
Tough little ship.
Little?
That makes some sense. It also neatly explains away how they can be in warp in a planets atmosphere without punching a hole through the planet.
Keeping in mind that it IS just a TV show, so they can do things like remodulate the tachyon emitters when they're in trouble, I thought about this in the last 15 seconds, and I'm guessing they extend an intertial dampening field around the ship, causing the air molecules that collide with the ship to retan less of the resulting energy, while the structural integrity field ensures that the molecules that do impact don't cause damage.
:)
If that was the case though, it makes you wonder why weapons fire does anything to the ships, seeing as the energy averted by the atmospheric damage negators would be infinite, so a simple phased energy beam or antimatter explosion shouldn't really be that bad.
Fsck it. Trying to fit impossible spaceships in a universe composed entirely of pseudoscience into our understanding of the universe is like trying to lift an ocean with your bare hands -- just too much to begin with, and it usually shifts just as you get a handle on it.