Hey, that's all I'm saying. YMMV, but think about what you need instead of just using a rule of thumb which will, as a general rule, give anyone using linux as a desktop system may orders of magnitude more swap than they really need.
But here's the thing. You only had 3GB of combined RAM and swap before. Why would you need a juggernaught 16GB of swap (again, remember this is going to be 16GB transferring very slowly, so if you're using that much memory, you've probably already reached for the reset button) if you've got twice memory than you've ever used in your entire existence until now?
The whole idea is insane. You don't need swap at all. You wouldn't need swap with HALF the memory. with half the memory you've STILL got a gigabyte more memory than you had hard drive and swap before the upgrade. The reason I suggested the 256MB wasn't just in case you're a complete idiot and manage to accidentally use up three times more memory than you've never even filled up in the life of your computer.
You present several arguements, but none of them are really very good.
Honestly, why does the 2x RAM guideline make any sense? Why is it that when I upgrade my 1GB to 8GB, I suddenly need 16GB of swap space, even though my total RAM+SWAP was less than half of my current memory? That makes no sense. Why should I want to increase the amount of swap I'm using if I've never used half the RAM I've got in the life of the computer?
How about we practice some Engineering? I know, it's slashdot, it's a tough thing to do, but bear with me.
So you've got a computer, and you know what you do with it. Simply do what you'll do, and figure out the peak memory usage over a period of time. Add 50% or so to get a target memory value, and if your current memory exceeds that value and thus you've got more than enough to never have to hit swap, pick a small number like 256MB for your swap partition to satisfy applications which demand swap even when enough memory is available. If you don't have enough memory, then create a swap file to make up the memory shortfall.
Seriously, some of the suggestions for swap are impractical. If you're using 24GB of memory in my hypothetical, and your hard drive can only transfer 16MB of memory at once, you're not using your computer anyway because it's too slow.
Trust me, that's no so great an idea right now. Thanks to our fearless leader, new housing development is at a low we haven't seen since 1974. You can chop down the trees, but good luck finding someone who wants them.
I apologize. I overreacted. Forget I said anything. I went way past the line of decency in trying to get across a basically reasonable point.
My reaction was just caused by the fact that it's a generic joke on a site without any sense of community, so this incredibly personal massive post just isn't appropriate in response. There's no community here so any pathos will be fleeting.
My bet is either Alice, because she complains about sitting next to ANYONE because she's left handed, or Elroy, because incontinence suggests advanced age, and after a lifetime of using your dominant right hand, you'll actually switch because your main hand is too dilapidated to continue the task.(since natural lefties are extremely rare, it's more likely to see someone who "graduated" into the task)
So it's easy. Simply systematically observe the reactions in biology. Attempt to model each one using currently understood physics. If you find one reactions which don't fit into our current models, congratulations -- you're going to win a nobel prize, but more importantly you'll win an argument on Slashdot!
5. Will the economy go belly-up because the rate of increase of federal debt will cause the economy to become entirely dedicated to debt maintenance, requiring generations to pay high taxes and recieve few services to get the debt to managable levels?
Answer: Yes.
Don't worry, it's only 4 trillion dollars of new debt during Bush's presidency, more than the entire inflation adjusted federal debt after WWII!
The tradesman was at the same convention, in the same hotel, but didn't have a fire in his room because he kept the vendor swag from "spark throwing alarm clocks inc." and "oily rags inc." apart.
Helium only fuses into higher elements in red giants. It's a much less energetic reaction which requires much greater energy to start, which is why Red Giants are so much bigger and cooler than white giants.
Let me assuage your fears with a simple statement.
The big bang was caused by something that had enough energy to create all matter in existence. The LHC does NOT have enough energy to create all matter in existence.
No Engineer on the planet would design the helium containment so it either A) wasn't strong enough to keep helium liquid through pressurization in the event of a refrigeration failure, and/or B) hadn't any pressure relief valves to prevent it from blowing up like a cheap water heater.
I mean, even the CHINESE would keep PRVs in their design.
I know it's out of vogue, but I'd like to point out that if the LHC were to explode in a fireball whose energy exceeded the energy we put into it, it'd be a good thing for science -- imagine a new energy source we can use to power our further expansion into the universe?
The law of conservation of energy makes for some very unsexy conclusions, like the lhc is probably fairly safe from destroying the universe.
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Hey, that's all I'm saying. YMMV, but think about what you need instead of just using a rule of thumb which will, as a general rule, give anyone using linux as a desktop system may orders of magnitude more swap than they really need.
But here's the thing. You only had 3GB of combined RAM and swap before. Why would you need a juggernaught 16GB of swap (again, remember this is going to be 16GB transferring very slowly, so if you're using that much memory, you've probably already reached for the reset button) if you've got twice memory than you've ever used in your entire existence until now?
The whole idea is insane. You don't need swap at all. You wouldn't need swap with HALF the memory. with half the memory you've STILL got a gigabyte more memory than you had hard drive and swap before the upgrade. The reason I suggested the 256MB wasn't just in case you're a complete idiot and manage to accidentally use up three times more memory than you've never even filled up in the life of your computer.
You present several arguements, but none of them are really very good.
Honestly, why does the 2x RAM guideline make any sense? Why is it that when I upgrade my 1GB to 8GB, I suddenly need 16GB of swap space, even though my total RAM+SWAP was less than half of my current memory? That makes no sense. Why should I want to increase the amount of swap I'm using if I've never used half the RAM I've got in the life of the computer?
How about we practice some Engineering? I know, it's slashdot, it's a tough thing to do, but bear with me.
So you've got a computer, and you know what you do with it. Simply do what you'll do, and figure out the peak memory usage over a period of time. Add 50% or so to get a target memory value, and if your current memory exceeds that value and thus you've got more than enough to never have to hit swap, pick a small number like 256MB for your swap partition to satisfy applications which demand swap even when enough memory is available. If you don't have enough memory, then create a swap file to make up the memory shortfall.
Seriously, some of the suggestions for swap are impractical. If you're using 24GB of memory in my hypothetical, and your hard drive can only transfer 16MB of memory at once, you're not using your computer anyway because it's too slow.
The suffering pulp and paper industry would disagree with you.
Paperwork is SO 1929. Everyone does things electronically now. You can bankrupt the nation entirely over the Internet now!
One of the major problems with algae-based biofuel is a lack of easy to obtain concentrated carbon dioxide.
So desert + CO2 machine + solar panels + algae = self-powered biofuel engine
Ah, there's your problem, you're runnning your website on MS-DOS 6.22!
This is a bit unorthodox, but might I suggest...linux?
Some (including one which should be obvious to Canadians) produce more than one useful product.
That famous tree of course being the sycamore tree.
It creates wood AND poetry!
Trust me, that's no so great an idea right now. Thanks to our fearless leader, new housing development is at a low we haven't seen since 1974. You can chop down the trees, but good luck finding someone who wants them.
I apologize. I overreacted. Forget I said anything. I went way past the line of decency in trying to get across a basically reasonable point.
My reaction was just caused by the fact that it's a generic joke on a site without any sense of community, so this incredibly personal massive post just isn't appropriate in response. There's no community here so any pathos will be fleeting.
I'm going to go with mathematics. I want the catapult.
Wait. What?
Ok.
My bet is either Alice, because she complains about sitting next to ANYONE because she's left handed, or Elroy, because incontinence suggests advanced age, and after a lifetime of using your dominant right hand, you'll actually switch because your main hand is too dilapidated to continue the task.(since natural lefties are extremely rare, it's more likely to see someone who "graduated" into the task)
I'm sorry, could you repost that? My screen got covered in sand-nigger Iraqi blood and your original comment got covered up.
OH MY GOD! IT'S IRAN! THEY'RE COMING STRAIGHT FOR US!
Science is all about disproving a positive.
So it's easy. Simply systematically observe the reactions in biology. Attempt to model each one using currently understood physics. If you find one reactions which don't fit into our current models, congratulations -- you're going to win a nobel prize, but more importantly you'll win an argument on Slashdot!
Depends how much power we can generate, doesn't it?
No reason we can't live on Mars if we've got a cheap source of energy that'll let us mine the martian ice caps for water and CO2.
5. Will the economy go belly-up because the rate of increase of federal debt will cause the economy to become entirely dedicated to debt maintenance, requiring generations to pay high taxes and recieve few services to get the debt to managable levels?
Answer: Yes.
Don't worry, it's only 4 trillion dollars of new debt during Bush's presidency, more than the entire inflation adjusted federal debt after WWII!
Here's what they don't tell you in that joke:
The tradesman was at the same convention, in the same hotel, but didn't have a fire in his room because he kept the vendor swag from "spark throwing alarm clocks inc." and "oily rags inc." apart.
Helium only fuses into higher elements in red giants. It's a much less energetic reaction which requires much greater energy to start, which is why Red Giants are so much bigger and cooler than white giants.
Oh! For me? Thank you so much!
Hey, it's unlikely you live in the country I do, could you give me detailed instructions on how to do my taxes in your country?
I just want to devour all I can from the "KGill's masturbation is for my own good" trough.
Oh no! A guy on the Internets Mom died! I'll never make a 'Your Mom is a whore' joke again!
Oh wait. I thought the joke was hilarious, and after your gay little outburst, I actually sort of feel like doing it again.
Your Mom is a Hoare. lol.
Congratulations for your part in making the one life's endeavour she could've been proud of fruitless by growing up to be an emo idiot.
Let me assuage your fears with a simple statement.
The big bang was caused by something that had enough energy to create all matter in existence. The LHC does NOT have enough energy to create all matter in existence.
QED
No Engineer on the planet would design the helium containment so it either A) wasn't strong enough to keep helium liquid through pressurization in the event of a refrigeration failure, and/or B) hadn't any pressure relief valves to prevent it from blowing up like a cheap water heater.
I mean, even the CHINESE would keep PRVs in their design.
I know it's out of vogue, but I'd like to point out that if the LHC were to explode in a fireball whose energy exceeded the energy we put into it, it'd be a good thing for science -- imagine a new energy source we can use to power our further expansion into the universe?
The law of conservation of energy makes for some very unsexy conclusions, like the lhc is probably fairly safe from destroying the universe.
After my tour in Iraq, I was promoted to the Admiralty.
Admiral Obvious.
If you think QM and GR are anything close to similar, you either don't know enough QM, or you don't know enough GR.