You raise some good points. I guess in this case I'm not ready to attribute the misquote on malice and I'm willing to cut him a little slack.
It's not a very clearly worded way of stating his role. If he had made campaign posters with this quote, or he had repeated it in his speeches, that would definitely seem misleading to me. But, this was a sentence said in response to a question in an interview. While speaking well on ones feet should be a requirement of a presidential candidate, I'm not going to fault someone for not being precisely clear 100% of the time.
I know that I have said things that I wish I had stated in a different way after tha fact. I'm not sure I'll attribute malice in this case.
Let's try this... it's an example that is much less politically charged today.
From the Wikipedia article on the Sistene Chapel: "Michelangelo Buonarroti was commissioned by Pope Julius II della Rovere in 1508 to repaint the ceiling, originally representing golden stars on a blue sky; the work was completed between 1508 and November 1, 1512."
Clearly, Michealangelo "created" the paintings on the ceiling. But Pope Julius the II would not have been wrong to say, "I took the initiative in creating the paintings on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel." And even if he did say that, nobody would be believe that he was the one doing the painting.
Ummm... that he was a lawmaker, talking about his record, and among the things he worked on was getting support for creating the internet.
You have to either be intellectually dishonest, or dumb as a bag of hammers to assume he was inventing the internet.
Let's look at a hypothetical example. It's an example that may not have a basis in fact, but exhibits certain constraints that permit analysis, and possibly the finding of a solution.
Let's suppose I am the mayor of your town, and the streets in the town are very dirty. There's no city program for cleaning the streets. So, as mayor, I lobby the city council, dedicate resources, hire staff, and invest in street cleaning equipment.... all of this is dedicated to getting the streets clean. So, a year later, the streets are really clean, and I'm running for reelection. And I state in an interview, "During my service as your mayor, I took the initiative in cleaning the city streets."
Now... would you be a dufus and assume that statement meant I single-handedly went out and cleaned the streets? Or would you use some of your brainpower and figure out that I meant that I took the initiative in getting the streets cleaned.
Hell, I didn't like Gore, and I didn't vote for him. But it makes us all dumber when we cling to insipid arguments like, "he claimed he invented the internet".
It's the same idiocy with people saying Bush is stupid. Clearly, he's smart enough to get through grad school (even with a C average), be the governor of a large state, and become the president of the US. Not being able to speak elloquently does not make him stupid. On the other hand, I also believe he's been one of the most harmful presidents in recent history.
It's sad that we Americans have lowered the political discourse to "he claims he invented the internet", and "he's dumb". Really, it just makes us all dumber.
So taking "the initiative in creating" something isn't inventing it? Am I unreasonable in thinking otherwise?
If he were an inventor, that could make sense. But, he was a lawmaker, and he was referencing his work in the congress.
If Reagan had said, "I took the initiative in creating the Star Wars Missile Defense System", would you first assume that he was working in a lab, designing high-energy lasers? Or would you go with the more rational assumption that he provided some leadership in getting it done?
The problem is that we Americans are pretty much dumb, reactionary, rather uneducated. We approach a situation already with the answer we want and grasp onto "evidence" that supports it.
Here, non-Gore supporters don't like Gore and hear someone say he claimed to invent the internet. Hearing the whole statement in context, it's difficult to rationally come to the assumption that Al was slaving away in his basement inventing routers, network cards, fiber optics, and cat-5.
We'd rather be intellectually dishonest than concede a nifty soundbite that makes us sound so smart, clever, and in tune.
Wow, Americans must be politically astute people to nitpick over the phrasing of a failed presidential candidate!
No... sadly, we're just political asses... that toot a lot. It's a common misconception.
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Your answer points out that the problem definition is inadequate or ambiguous.
Maybe the people who start generating code without properly understanding and defining the problem to be solved don't get the job? Who wants a programmer who jumps into code-writing as the first step of design?
Wow! I had no idea that song was about a kid almost starting a nuclear war. I just thought it was a silly European song about balloons - those Europeans will make songs about anything, you know!
While I can't verify the temperature that the water was at, I had an incident this weekend that indicates this super-heating is not too difficult.
I put a 2 cup pyrex measuring cup in a microwave for about 2.5 minutes. The water appeared very calm and didn't have any bubbles. But as soon as I dropped my tea-bag into the cup, the water flared up and began to boil very vigorously for a few seconds.
The water was filtered drinking water from Walmart, and the pyrex was only cleaned with tap-water (rather "hard" water) and soap.
Of course you still have some kind of carriage returns/line breaks.
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I love how out of puritanical fear that people will get drunk (and probably have sex) we put something that will instead make them blind or dead. What a country.
But they're still talking about the stations being a mile apart. Which means an average of a one-mile hike and a max of a two mile hike if your starting location and destination are exactly between stations.
A whole two miles in one day? It's great to be an American!
But, actually, if the stations are one mile apart - say on a 1 mile x 1 mile grid, then you'll never be farther than sqrt(2)/2 miles (0.707 miles) from a station. Then again... you probably can't walk diagonally across the city blocks.
couldn't they ask you to report your vehicle's mileage on a yearly basis?
My state is toying with this too. The problem is that they don't have a legal right to tax you for time you drive on your private roads or more importantly, out of state. I live on the border of Washington & Oregon, so without either some kind of border crossing monitoring station, or a GPS system, they can't know when I'm actually driving in the state.
If this is such a grave issue, then we should just raise the gas tax overall. Or maybe a sliding tax can be used based on the model/year of car.
Right, but an H2 is much heavier than a Prius and will do more damage to the road. This is just a big grab for more money and more information on what people are doing.
You responded to: Is there a way to check for similar passwords in someone's history
by saying: You can check the hash value of the new password to the hash value of any old passwords
Now, I've only taken a few CS classes, but my understanding is that a *good* password hash should yield very different results for similar passwords. It seems that if you can see the similarities between "Password" and "pASSWORD" in your password hashing algorythm that it's not a very good hashing algorythm.
There was no overall direction and we were always in panic-mode. I made several suggestions on ways to improve this, even with working prototypes, and I was shot down.
As far as I saw it, I am pretty smart with a lot of experience, and several good ideas/philosophies for doing things. It's a waste of my talents to spend a whole summer removing spyware and viruses and then installing the same patches and software on identical machines - especially when I'd come up with a system to push an "image" to each machine that had everything the way we wanted it. Well, of course, the "standard build" kept getting changed all summer long. There's nothing like going back over all the machines I did the month before to add yet more software.
In fact, whenever our vendors said we had to upgrade (which happened several times in the summer), I always asked, "what does this upgrade give us, and what is the downside to not installing it now?", but we just marched ahead blindly.
So, no, I don't jump on command. I have better things to do with my time.
Where I most recently worked, XP-SP2 broke several important custom applications and there was no easy fix or work-around. So, it's not always possible to jump when Microsoft says jump. The IT folks are working on re-writing the apps, but that takes time.
Now they need ways to pay non-salary money, that comes from nowhere - print more stock!. And they may as well do things that keep you around longer as they do it. Luckily, printing more stock still doesn't cost the company any money, it's from the current investors that get diluted.
It doesn't cost them much today. But tomorrow, when they need to raise more capital, the market will not value their stock as highly because potential investors will be afraid of being dilluted again. If you can't get enough capital, you have to go for loans/bonds.
It's easy to cheat in a one-turn game. But it eventually catches up to you when you have to keep playing.
I've gone to the "usual" bar, and many times, the bartender tells me, "We just got this ____ in. You usually drink ____, but I think you'll like this one."
Same with the local library. I go there to pick up some books I've reserved online, and the librarian says, "Oh, I see you're reading a lot of ____. Have you read any ___? I think you'd enjoy it."
That's all this stupid thing is on Amazon or the idoits that are suing them.
In any case, the magnetic material was a certain color - kind of a golden brown, and the substance below was something else. We had to sand off any of the golden brown stuff so that only the underlying substance remained.
I think most platters today are made out of glass, but many years ago, they were made out of something that was very metal-like. This is back when the platters were more than a foot across. Physically, they were very large drives.
Customers and potential customers should complain to those banks and bill-pay services about these security problems.
I won't use a bank or financial service that requires IE.
> NT has roots in VMS.
Someone once told me to increment each letter in VMS to get WNT. Kind of like the IBM --> HAL.
You raise some good points. I guess in this case I'm not ready to attribute the misquote on malice and I'm willing to cut him a little slack.
It's not a very clearly worded way of stating his role. If he had made campaign posters with this quote, or he had repeated it in his speeches, that would definitely seem misleading to me. But, this was a sentence said in response to a question in an interview. While speaking well on ones feet should be a requirement of a presidential candidate, I'm not going to fault someone for not being precisely clear 100% of the time.
I know that I have said things that I wish I had stated in a different way after tha fact. I'm not sure I'll attribute malice in this case.
Let's try this... it's an example that is much less politically charged today.
From the Wikipedia article on the Sistene Chapel:
"Michelangelo Buonarroti was commissioned by Pope Julius II della Rovere in 1508 to repaint the ceiling, originally representing golden stars on a blue sky; the work was completed between 1508 and November 1, 1512."
Clearly, Michealangelo "created" the paintings on the ceiling. But Pope Julius the II would not have been wrong to say, "I took the initiative in creating the paintings on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel." And even if he did say that, nobody would be believe that he was the one doing the painting.
How else exactly would you interpret that?
Ummm... that he was a lawmaker, talking about his record, and among the things he worked on was getting support for creating the internet.
You have to either be intellectually dishonest, or dumb as a bag of hammers to assume he was inventing the internet.
Let's look at a hypothetical example. It's an example that may not have a basis in fact, but exhibits certain constraints that permit analysis, and possibly the finding of a solution.
Let's suppose I am the mayor of your town, and the streets in the town are very dirty. There's no city program for cleaning the streets. So, as mayor, I lobby the city council, dedicate resources, hire staff, and invest in street cleaning equipment.... all of this is dedicated to getting the streets clean. So, a year later, the streets are really clean, and I'm running for reelection. And I state in an interview, "During my service as your mayor, I took the initiative in cleaning the city streets."
Now... would you be a dufus and assume that statement meant I single-handedly went out and cleaned the streets? Or would you use some of your brainpower and figure out that I meant that I took the initiative in getting the streets cleaned.
Hell, I didn't like Gore, and I didn't vote for him. But it makes us all dumber when we cling to insipid arguments like, "he claimed he invented the internet".
It's the same idiocy with people saying Bush is stupid. Clearly, he's smart enough to get through grad school (even with a C average), be the governor of a large state, and become the president of the US. Not being able to speak elloquently does not make him stupid. On the other hand, I also believe he's been one of the most harmful presidents in recent history.
It's sad that we Americans have lowered the political discourse to "he claims he invented the internet", and "he's dumb". Really, it just makes us all dumber.
So taking "the initiative in creating" something isn't inventing it? Am I unreasonable in thinking otherwise?
If he were an inventor, that could make sense. But, he was a lawmaker, and he was referencing his work in the congress.
If Reagan had said, "I took the initiative in creating the Star Wars Missile Defense System", would you first assume that he was working in a lab, designing high-energy lasers? Or would you go with the more rational assumption that he provided some leadership in getting it done?
The problem is that we Americans are pretty much dumb, reactionary, rather uneducated. We approach a situation already with the answer we want and grasp onto "evidence" that supports it.
Here, non-Gore supporters don't like Gore and hear someone say he claimed to invent the internet. Hearing the whole statement in context, it's difficult to rationally come to the assumption that Al was slaving away in his basement inventing routers, network cards, fiber optics, and cat-5.
We'd rather be intellectually dishonest than concede a nifty soundbite that makes us sound so smart, clever, and in tune.
Wow, Americans must be politically astute people to nitpick over the phrasing of a failed presidential candidate!
No... sadly, we're just political asses... that toot a lot. It's a common misconception.
Your answer points out that the problem definition is inadequate or ambiguous.
Maybe the people who start generating code without properly understanding and defining the problem to be solved don't get the job? Who wants a programmer who jumps into code-writing as the first step of design?
Wow! I had no idea that song was about a kid almost starting a nuclear war. I just thought it was a silly European song about balloons - those Europeans will make songs about anything, you know!
I don't think it's that hard actually.
While I can't verify the temperature that the water was at, I had an incident this weekend that indicates this super-heating is not too difficult.
I put a 2 cup pyrex measuring cup in a microwave for about 2.5 minutes. The water appeared very calm and didn't have any bubbles. But as soon as I dropped my tea-bag into the cup, the water flared up and began to boil very vigorously for a few seconds.
The water was filtered drinking water from Walmart, and the pyrex was only cleaned with tap-water (rather "hard" water) and soap.
It's rather frightening that I could think of this:
$ echo "1 DIG:PICTURE:RUN"|wc -m
18
$echo "1 DIG 2 PICTURE 3 GOTO 1" | wc -m
25
Of course you still have some kind of carriage returns/line breaks.
I love how out of puritanical fear that people will get drunk (and probably have sex) we put something that will instead make them blind or dead. What a country.
But they're still talking about the stations being a mile apart. Which means an average of a one-mile hike and a max of a two mile hike if your starting location and destination are exactly between stations.
A whole two miles in one day? It's great to be an American!
But, actually, if the stations are one mile apart - say on a 1 mile x 1 mile grid, then you'll never be farther than sqrt(2)/2 miles (0.707 miles) from a station. Then again... you probably can't walk diagonally across the city blocks.
10.000 monkeys couldn't live on the top of Mount Sinai. What would they eat?
Don't you know? They would eat coconuts dropped by tired swallows.
Don't most modern train engines work on the same idea? The drive train is electric, powered by a diesel powered turbine that spins a generator?
The trains seem to have quite a range of speeds available to them. Gearing may be difficult, but it does not seem impossible.
couldn't they ask you to report your vehicle's mileage on a yearly basis?
My state is toying with this too. The problem is that they don't have a legal right to tax you for time you drive on your private roads or more importantly, out of state. I live on the border of Washington & Oregon, so without either some kind of border crossing monitoring station, or a GPS system, they can't know when I'm actually driving in the state.
If this is such a grave issue, then we should just raise the gas tax overall. Or maybe a sliding tax can be used based on the model/year of car.
Right, but an H2 is much heavier than a Prius and will do more damage to the road. This is just a big grab for more money and more information on what people are doing.
You responded to: Is there a way to check for similar passwords in someone's history
by saying: You can check the hash value of the new password to the hash value of any old passwords
Now, I've only taken a few CS classes, but my understanding is that a *good* password hash should yield very different results for similar passwords. It seems that if you can see the similarities between "Password" and "pASSWORD" in your password hashing algorythm that it's not a very good hashing algorythm.
Yeah, I thought they were called NIPRNet and SIPRNet.
Nah, I quit because the place was so chaotic.
There was no overall direction and we were always in panic-mode. I made several suggestions on ways to improve this, even with working prototypes, and I was shot down.
As far as I saw it, I am pretty smart with a lot of experience, and several good ideas/philosophies for doing things. It's a waste of my talents to spend a whole summer removing spyware and viruses and then installing the same patches and software on identical machines - especially when I'd come up with a system to push an "image" to each machine that had everything the way we wanted it. Well, of course, the "standard build" kept getting changed all summer long. There's nothing like going back over all the machines I did the month before to add yet more software.
In fact, whenever our vendors said we had to upgrade (which happened several times in the summer), I always asked, "what does this upgrade give us, and what is the downside to not installing it now?", but we just marched ahead blindly.
So, no, I don't jump on command. I have better things to do with my time.
Where I most recently worked, XP-SP2 broke several important custom applications and there was no easy fix or work-around. So, it's not always possible to jump when Microsoft says jump. The IT folks are working on re-writing the apps, but that takes time.
Now they need ways to pay non-salary money, that comes from nowhere - print more stock!. And they may as well do things that keep you around longer as they do it. Luckily, printing more stock still doesn't cost the company any money, it's from the current investors that get diluted.
It doesn't cost them much today. But tomorrow, when they need to raise more capital, the market will not value their stock as highly because potential investors will be afraid of being dilluted again. If you can't get enough capital, you have to go for loans/bonds.
It's easy to cheat in a one-turn game. But it eventually catches up to you when you have to keep playing.
Does it even have to be all that.
I've gone to the "usual" bar, and many times, the bartender tells me, "We just got this ____ in. You usually drink ____, but I think you'll like this one."
Same with the local library. I go there to pick up some books I've reserved online, and the librarian says, "Oh, I see you're reading a lot of ____. Have you read any ___? I think you'd enjoy it."
That's all this stupid thing is on Amazon or the idoits that are suing them.
It's really sad.
These were, or they appeared to be.
In any case, the magnetic material was a certain color - kind of a golden brown, and the substance below was something else. We had to sand off any of the golden brown stuff so that only the underlying substance remained.
I think most platters today are made out of glass, but many years ago, they were made out of something that was very metal-like. This is back when the platters were more than a foot across. Physically, they were very large drives.