If that is what you're implying then no you're wrong. They should have gone to OUCS straight away and would have been politely shown that their "research" was utterly redundant and they'd not have bothered. The CCTV thing might have been noted though.
Well quite. The Oxford Uni Computing Service has been heavily prmoting more secure ways of accessing email, ones that can'tbe sniffed by errant journalists. This was already in hand when this article was published - but talking to OUCS and getting the real deal was obviously too simple and they didn't find this out. So they ran, illegally, software designed to get passwords and now they pay the price.
Like you I grew up there too so I know how long it would take to run around it all. I was meaning going around all the roads obviously.:-) You're walking quick if it takes you 90 minutes to cross on foot. That's assuming Trumpington P&R to, say, Milton.
Yeah but in this case the university IT authorities already knew how to fix it - because they has alreadt put in place (and were heavily promoting) replacement, more secure, services.
Yes but what they did was so obvious, so simplistic and so redundant (as it turns out) thayt they'c not have been granted permission. The CCTV thing has some merit but the other stuff...
Sniffing TCP/IP connections is "white hat hacking" is it? Even when you print an inaccurate article about how you can sniff webmail passwords (not using HTTPS you can't) in the student newspaper?
These students are not heroes they're terminally stupid. Here's the article you have failed to read:http://www.oxfordstudent.com/2004-05-27/news/ 1
If you don't know how the network has been arranged then why criticise how it is setup? Do you know how the webmail system works at Oxford? What about the HTTPS provision? Oh hang on that would stop people from sniffing passwords...
The article was crap! I read it - it was really terribly written. Hardly excellent investigative jounalism. Hope they get the book thrown at them for being idiots.
Were they around before 1990? This web site only goes up to then. Steinberg were ve influential before 1990 hence they clearly deserve to be mentioned.
The charts are a commercial entity. Radio One broadcasts them but the Official UK Chart Company Ltd runs the chart as it is. The BBC certainly have no commercial interest in the charts as they make no money from the broadcast. Rather someone might wish to complain that the OUCC has a commercial interest in a BBC broadcast.
And if someone shipped a version of Linux that had, say, a one-click install on lots of software, came with decent Office clones and also came with decent user-friendly email and browser programs then you'd be pretty happy I suppose? Well someone has already done this, and it's just down to you to find it, install it and use it. And you can still install 50 different IRC clients if you really want to, and you can still get the source for them all if you really want it. But you don't have to, that's the power of a system such as Linux - flexibility through freedom of choice.
For the record MP3 works by removing frequencies that have been masked. If you get two similar frequencies and one is much louder than the other, the quieter one is not really heard by the ear. This is why you can remove most of the sound data and still have it sound pretty much the same. Where you do find there is a problem is when you miss out on the frequencies you hear when two similar frequencies are produced at the same time.
Mitnick is not a great hacker/cracker when it came to computer systems, but a great social engineer. He had more balls than a lot of people. When it came to breaking in he...knew how to compile programs and move files about certainly. Frankly he was a pain in the rear to loads of people with his pointless activities. He advanced hacking zilch, he gave nothing to anyone, except a bad name.
Absolutely. This mission can only be considered an unqualified success. What is most pleasing is the fact that they now have a better idea of how to make future missions work this well too.
The same feelings do stil exist but they're not so much driven underground as just lessened hugely. We're all a bit more grown-up about this sort of thing these days thank god.
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No....the sites blocked are specifically child porn sites.
They've been seen by the Internet Watch Foundation and classified.
If that is what you're implying then no you're wrong.
They should have gone to OUCS straight away and would have been politely shown that their "research" was utterly redundant and they'd not have bothered.
The CCTV thing might have been noted though.
Well quite. The Oxford Uni Computing Service has been heavily prmoting more secure ways of accessing email, ones that can'tbe sniffed by errant journalists.
This was already in hand when this article was published - but talking to OUCS and getting the real deal was obviously too simple and they didn't find this out.
So they ran, illegally, software designed to get passwords and now they pay the price.
Like you I grew up there too so I know how long it would take to run around it all. I was meaning going around all the roads obviously. :-)
You're walking quick if it takes you 90 minutes to cross on foot. That's assuming Trumpington P&R to, say, Milton.
Yeah but in this case the university IT authorities already knew how to fix it - because they has alreadt put in place (and were heavily promoting) replacement, more secure, services.
They did do harm. They gave a misleading account of security at the university and probably encouraged more people to try their luck.
Yes but what they did was so obvious, so simplistic and so redundant (as it turns out) thayt they'c not have been granted permission.
The CCTV thing has some merit but the other stuff...
Sniffing TCP/IP connections is "white hat hacking" is it? Even when you print an inaccurate article about how you can sniff webmail passwords (not using HTTPS you can't) in the student newspaper?
These students are not heroes they're terminally stupid./ 1
Here's the article you have failed to read:http://www.oxfordstudent.com/2004-05-27/news
If you don't know how the network has been arranged then why criticise how it is setup? Do you know how the webmail system works at Oxford? What about the HTTPS provision? Oh hang on that would stop people from sniffing passwords...
The article was crap! I read it - it was really terribly written.
Hardly excellent investigative jounalism.
Hope they get the book thrown at them for being idiots.
Cambridge isn't that big. Easy enough to streak through all of it in a day or two...
Were they around before 1990? This web site only goes up to then.
Steinberg were ve influential before 1990 hence they clearly deserve to be mentioned.
The charts are a commercial entity. Radio One broadcasts them but the Official UK Chart Company Ltd runs the chart as it is.
The BBC certainly have no commercial interest in the charts as they make no money from the broadcast.
Rather someone might wish to complain that the OUCC has a commercial interest in a BBC broadcast.
And if someone shipped a version of Linux that had, say, a one-click install on lots of software, came with decent Office clones and also came with decent user-friendly email and browser programs then you'd be pretty happy I suppose?
Well someone has already done this, and it's just down to you to find it, install it and use it.
And you can still install 50 different IRC clients if you really want to, and you can still get the source for them all if you really want it. But you don't have to, that's the power of a system such as Linux - flexibility through freedom of choice.
Pointless. You could just enter in all the characters in the character set...
For the record MP3 works by removing frequencies that have been masked. If you get two similar frequencies and one is much louder than the other, the quieter one is not really heard by the ear. This is why you can remove most of the sound data and still have it sound pretty much the same.
Where you do find there is a problem is when you miss out on the frequencies you hear when two similar frequencies are produced at the same time.
They claim you can get more songs on it using ATRAC instead of mp3.
Mitnick is not a great hacker/cracker when it came to computer systems, but a great social engineer. He had more balls than a lot of people.
When it came to breaking in he...knew how to compile programs and move files about certainly.
Frankly he was a pain in the rear to loads of people with his pointless activities. He advanced hacking zilch, he gave nothing to anyone, except a bad name.
That book must really suck...
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Absolutely. This mission can only be considered an unqualified success. What is most pleasing is the fact that they now have a better idea of how to make future missions work this well too.
The same feelings do stil exist but they're not so much driven underground as just lessened hugely.
We're all a bit more grown-up about this sort of thing these days thank god.
I give a shit about minor bugfixes and splash screens are a total waste of my time. Who cares about pointless crap like splash screens?
So, in fact, this is not cool at all then.
Well he won a Nobel Prize for it so I suppose it does sort of matter yeah...