Its kind of sad that they're going about things this way. On the otherhand, I think that opensource is usually better applied to infrastructure than entertainment. Opensource is the bread that all the butter manufacturers get together to make because they want to make money selling butter. Unfortunately alot of them forget that they're in the butter business or at least to market themselves as such. And some just start out backwards and try and right themselves later.
All that being said, transgaming has a huge bit of a problem. There has yet to be a successful hybrid model between opensource and traditional. Up to now every attempt has been a failure. Often because of backlash or confusion.
Personally I think they'd do better selling their services/expertise to game manufacturers.
since the moderators generally vote down things they don't agree with. However against half the provisions of this bill I am, I do agree with one thing: wiretapping an individual not a line. Before you hit that downgrade button, listen up. If I have email, a phone, a cell phone, wireless network access and all, I can easily just alternate or use one, none or all. In the old day, wiretapping your phone was sufficient. Now, its not. However, the protection is not gone... they still need a warrant, there is still a line of defense.
I do think voting down the amendments was a bad thing. Please read the bill or at least the summations before commenting. Overall this is a bad bill, but that provision should be passsed (with the amendments attached)!
Unfortunately, this is an issue that's not going away. On one hand we need to fund works of intellectuals and artisans, on the other hand we need to have them available equally to all and keep them able to be built on.
The current thinking on intellectual rights is preventing the next wave of thriving for humanity. Its based on the single provider model. Basically a single author (be it an entity or person) provides and benefits a piece of work (or component of a larger work). This has been somewhat successful although the new era of the internet and mobile technology makes this more challenging. The best example of this is UNIX. It would be very hard to put together a UNIX without paying a large number of organizations for rights to their code. (Putting aside open source, GPL, BSD and the "new wave" for the moment)
Although, it will seem like a cliché that this would be advocated on Slashdot, I think the open source model provides the answer. Many big names in computing have invested in both single and multiple authors of technology. Linux, Apache web server and Apache's Tomcat are great examples of this success. The idea is that important information or artistry will be funded and developed by several groups who share in the reward. This is enforced by what has been called a virus clause in the license.
Rather than toll gating, use contribution as the principle currency.
So this is great when applied to technology but how about music or other works. The current record industry is based upon an old system of market and return that may one day become irrelevant. I'm not saying this should be done away with, but the works it produces are most suited for a teenage or intellectually disabled population (the backstreet-nsynch-98-degree-town-boys and Britney spears -- disregarding her appearance). New works would be heavily contributed to.
So how could someone make money this way? Performances for one, higher quality distribution (mp3s aren't CDs, and copies don't go very far). Support and assistance, (so you want to add some riffs to that new matchbox 20 cd, rob Thomas calls you up and helps you with the fingering). It sounds a little far fetched but so did the open source movement.
With all this said, it will be along time before the powerful interests can be taken on. In the end they'll surrender to the unavoidable trends and reap more profits and rewards than ever before.
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I'm certainly sad to see them go, but I get all my news from slashdot anyhow *g*... There are plenty of other news sources and lots about linux (hence part of their problem). So not a huge deal that this one didn't make it. Besides that, its highly probable someone else will pick it up.
He's not competing and doesn't care what other people are doing, he's just working on the linux kernel. Why would he care? I don't think thats cocky, just focused.
I've not yet gotten the release but I'd have to say OpenOffice is a big improvement in many ways over StarOffice. Unfortunately, the build I got a month ago didn't allow conversion between html docs and swd (or whatever its called now), which really annoyed me. Its a toss up whether loosing that horrid desktop thing is worth it. (I like to publish everything I document as HTML).
It does seem to load substantially faster and run a tad more stable than Star Office did.
All in all I have pretty good luck converting to and from M$ Word. The changes are usually the same types of things that happen when switching the printer settings around on M$ Word.
Unfortunately, I've less luck with the Spreadsheet piece. It writes XLS files in a really weird format (I looked at it via biff view and via my project sourceforge.net/projects/poi) it doesn't always load properly and sometimes crashes excel.
(long story on the differences, too boring for here)...
So can you ditch Office and use OpenOffice -- not if you're a big spreadsheet user that needs to talk to Excel, but for most people -- definately!
(In open office's defence, they use glibole2 which is some of the nastiest looking C code I've ever seen -- see www.gnome.org. You have to expand about 20 layers of macros to even understand one line of code! Its a miracle they can write anything)
This looks mostly like a giant ad to me. I thought the picture of the cellphone/tv was kinda cool, but this is just a bunch of pictures and the primary drive of the site (from what I could tell) is to sell their phones or to get US folks to use their app translation services.
Not sure this was worthy front page material for slashdot.
I just found out about this to my dismay. I'll be reading the draft very closely. My first read of it was like reading a steven king book.
What I really don't understand is why do these companies need the W3C for this? Go about and embrace and extend and let us opt to use them or not. I don't understand why they should go through the W3C.
Ironically in its current form this could very well end the W3C. Who will want to make something compliant to a W3C standard if it involves liscensing a bunch of other software?
Someone in my lug (trilug dot org) quoted this W3C spokeperson quote:
"we really want your feedback, but it's
no good sending us e-mail that just says 'DON'T!'. that doesn't give
us anything to work with in terms of constructive critisism."
For my feedback I'll recommend removing every reference and clause related to RAND liscened material and only permitting RFE (royalty free). Add "Only royalty-free liscensed submissions are permitted".
I think the W3C is about to experience the slashdot effect firsthand!
Actually, in the case of Windoze for instance. The softare producer (Micro$oft) has agreed to take it back. The store has not. So basically its M$ that has to agree to take it back.
I've run token ring on linux with no problems. I've had some problems with hubs that messed up the token ring network, but that is another story.
While I was contracting at IBM a number of people were using linux on the token ring. (IBM is switching to ethernet at the NC location btw)
You should really provide more information on this problem. It might be a configuration issue of some sort.
All in all, token ring is a bad standard, even IBM has come to realize this. If one little laptop can bring down the network just by booting, you've got problems.
The attributing the "first" to provide comprehensive wysiwyg tools and such is a historical revision. The author should further research his articles before posting them
Is there a DCMA defense fund setup for helping people arrested (such as this guy)? If so I'd gladly donate (provided they had documentation that they actually used the money for the stated purpose).
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Its kind of sad that they're going about things this way. On the otherhand, I think that opensource is usually better applied to infrastructure than entertainment. Opensource is the bread that all the butter manufacturers get together to make because they want to make money selling butter. Unfortunately alot of them forget that they're in the butter business or at least to market themselves as such. And some just start out backwards and try and right themselves later.
All that being said, transgaming has a huge bit of a problem. There has yet to be a successful hybrid model between opensource and traditional. Up to now every attempt has been a failure. Often because of backlash or confusion.
Personally I think they'd do better selling their services/expertise to game manufacturers.
since the moderators generally vote down things they don't agree with. However against half the provisions of this bill I am, I do agree with one thing: wiretapping an individual not a line. Before you hit that downgrade button, listen up. If I have email, a phone, a cell phone, wireless network access and all, I can easily just alternate or use one, none or all. In the old day, wiretapping your phone was sufficient. Now, its not. However, the protection is not gone... they still need a warrant, there is still a line of defense.
I do think voting down the amendments was a bad thing. Please read the bill or at least the summations before commenting. Overall this is a bad bill, but that provision should be passsed (with the amendments attached)!
Unfortunately, this is an issue that's not going away. On one hand we need to fund works of intellectuals and artisans, on the other hand we need to have them available equally to all and keep them able to be built on.
The current thinking on intellectual rights is preventing the next wave of thriving for humanity. Its based on the single provider model. Basically a single author (be it an entity or person) provides and benefits a piece of work (or component of a larger work). This has been somewhat successful although the new era of the internet and mobile technology makes this more challenging. The best example of this is UNIX. It would be very hard to put together a UNIX without paying a large number of organizations for rights to their code. (Putting aside open source, GPL, BSD and the "new wave" for the moment)
Although, it will seem like a cliché that this would be advocated on Slashdot, I think the open source model provides the answer. Many big names in computing have invested in both single and multiple authors of technology. Linux, Apache web server and Apache's Tomcat are great examples of this success. The idea is that important information or artistry will be funded and developed by several groups who share in the reward. This is enforced by what has been called a virus clause in the license.
Rather than toll gating, use contribution as the principle currency.
So this is great when applied to technology but how about music or other works. The current record industry is based upon an old system of market and return that may one day become irrelevant. I'm not saying this should be done away with, but the works it produces are most suited for a teenage or intellectually disabled population (the backstreet-nsynch-98-degree-town-boys and Britney spears -- disregarding her appearance). New works would be heavily contributed to.
So how could someone make money this way? Performances for one, higher quality distribution (mp3s aren't CDs, and copies don't go very far). Support and assistance, (so you want to add some riffs to that new matchbox 20 cd, rob Thomas calls you up and helps you with the fingering). It sounds a little far fetched but so did the open source movement.
With all this said, it will be along time before the powerful interests can be taken on. In the end they'll surrender to the unavoidable trends and reap more profits and rewards than ever before.
I was kidding.
I'm certainly sad to see them go, but I get all my news from slashdot anyhow *g*... There are plenty of other news sources and lots about linux (hence part of their problem). So not a huge deal that this one didn't make it. Besides that, its highly probable someone else will pick it up.
I don't share that perception. Not caring about BSD=cocky. There are billions of cocky people in the world. I must be one of them.
If someone asked you the same stupid questions in every interview too you'd probably come off tired.
How many times does he have to say "I just work on the kernel and don't care what MS does" and "I don't care what you call Linux"..etc.
I mean why should he care?
-Andy
He's not competing and doesn't care what other people are doing, he's just working on the linux kernel. Why would he care? I don't think thats cocky, just focused.
"Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence." -- Napoleon Bonaparte.
-Andy
I've not yet gotten the release but I'd have to say OpenOffice is a big improvement in many ways over StarOffice. Unfortunately, the build I got a month ago didn't allow conversion between html docs and swd (or whatever its called now), which really annoyed me. Its a toss up whether loosing that horrid desktop thing is worth it. (I like to publish everything I document as HTML).
It does seem to load substantially faster and run a tad more stable than Star Office did.
All in all I have pretty good luck converting to and from M$ Word. The changes are usually the same types of things that happen when switching the printer settings around on M$ Word.
Unfortunately, I've less luck with the Spreadsheet piece. It writes XLS files in a really weird format (I looked at it via biff view and via my project sourceforge.net/projects/poi) it doesn't always load properly and sometimes crashes excel.
(long story on the differences, too boring for here)...
So can you ditch Office and use OpenOffice -- not if you're a big spreadsheet user that needs to talk to Excel, but for most people -- definately!
(In open office's defence, they use glibole2 which is some of the nastiest looking C code I've ever seen -- see www.gnome.org. You have to expand about 20 layers of macros to even understand one line of code! Its a miracle they can write anything)
This looks mostly like a giant ad to me. I thought the picture of the cellphone/tv was kinda cool, but this is just a bunch of pictures and the primary drive of the site (from what I could tell) is to sell their phones or to get US folks to use their app translation services.
Not sure this was worthy front page material for slashdot.
I just found out about this to my dismay. I'll be reading the draft very closely. My first read of it was like reading a steven king book.
What I really don't understand is why do these companies need the W3C for this? Go about and embrace and extend and let us opt to use them or not. I don't understand why they should go through the W3C.
Ironically in its current form this could very well end the W3C. Who will want to make something compliant to a W3C standard if it involves liscensing a bunch of other software?
Someone in my lug (trilug dot org) quoted this W3C spokeperson quote:
"we really want your feedback, but it's
no good sending us e-mail that just says 'DON'T!'. that doesn't give
us anything to work with in terms of constructive critisism."
For my feedback I'll recommend removing every reference and clause related to RAND liscened material and only permitting RFE (royalty free). Add "Only royalty-free liscensed submissions are permitted".
I think the W3C is about to experience the slashdot effect firsthand!
Actually, in the case of Windoze for instance. The softare producer (Micro$oft) has agreed to take it back. The store has not. So basically its M$ that has to agree to take it back.
I've run token ring on linux with no problems. I've had some problems with hubs that messed up the token ring network, but that is another story.
While I was contracting at IBM a number of people were using linux on the token ring. (IBM is switching to ethernet at the NC location btw)
You should really provide more information on this problem. It might be a configuration issue of some sort.
All in all, token ring is a bad standard, even IBM has come to realize this. If one little laptop can bring down the network just by booting, you've got problems.
The attributing the "first" to provide comprehensive wysiwyg tools and such is a historical revision. The author should further research his articles before posting them
larry should change his liscense.
Is there a DCMA defense fund setup for helping people arrested (such as this guy)? If so I'd gladly donate (provided they had documentation that they actually used the money for the stated purpose).