Using the taskbar makes a mess when you are doing more than just browsing the web. All of your websites get mixed in with your regular programs.
Your desktop environment must not have the ability to have virtual desktops. I usually have 6 virtual desktops and use the "task bar" as my tab bar for most applications and it keeps everything in order. The virtual desktops have themes that I come up with dynamically as I work and run my applications within the context of my defined themed virtual desktops.
I've been using this technique for years - since 1998 I believe. The first application that I used it on was a kiosk. The kiosk application was done using IE and some ActiveX controls to read magcard from a reader and print to a serial port. Well, every time the page loaded, these ActiveX controls would take an eternity to init the serials ports and so on. So I put all that code into another hidden frame and used this hidden frame to control the display frame. Works great.
Sorry, but something really extraordinary is needed to even threaten Microsofts dominance, much less overtake it
Yes and that something extraordinary is the tipping point. When this point has been reached, nothing will be able to stop the market adoption of Linux on the desktop. I predict the tipping at 30%. When Linux runs on 30% of desktops, most of the support that Microsoft is getting from the hardware and software vendors will exist for Linux. In other words, all the commercial software available for Windows will be or become available for Linux, including hardware drivers.
Who's going for pay Windows then? No one and Microsoft knows it. That is why they have developed.NET. Microsoft is trying to make.NET the succeeding platform because that they can control it.
Eerie. I felt like I was reading my own diary. The dates, the computers the mags, everything matches up quite nicely with my life, right down to the very close Slashdot Id. You must have read Chips n Dips in the good ole Rob Malda blogging days? How about Slackware, was that your first distribution? Don't tell me you installed it from 12 floppies. You probably played Space Quest but that's too easy. How about Bard's Tale? You're probably familiar with AT&V, AT&Z and the whole AT command set. How about the demo scene, where you into that? It always seemed like the Finnish guys ruled. Ok enough of that reminiscence, I need to complete my PHP/MySQL project and start my new Ruby app.
Shhhhh. Don't tell them. Let them figure it out on their own. Then again, they'll probably ignore anything you say here because the're not into the FOSS thing yet so any contributions such as the one you have just made will probably be ignored. Now, any constructive criticism for the Moz guys would be alright, they'll probably listen. If not, you could always patch your own version or write an extension.
First, cool your jets. Firefox only went 1.0 yesterday, and before then there hasn't been a free, production-level browser that appealed to IE users. Windows techies have been trying various versions of Mozilla/Netscape for the last 3-4 years, and up to recently they haven't liked them.
Nope. The ones that I'm referring to have not tried Mozilla/Netscape in the last 3-4 years. They have not tried Mozilla ever and the last time they tried Netscape was at version 3.
Second, wrap your mind around the fact that "IE works just fine..." really is true for most users (except for some corner-cases).
I have, Just like I have with the Commodore 64. The ongoing security problems affect everyone and it is not a corner case.
I never said that IE sucks. Re-read parent post. I use IE for what it is good at - kiosk applications because of it's ability to use ActiveX controls. It's very good at running a single application running kiosk. Firefox is a better general purpose browser.
(Anyway, you must be a hoot, pushing "bad advocacy" on people and then blaming your victims when they tune you out.)
Wow, I don't know where you got that from my post but it is an interesting deduction. You're creative ability is definitly commendable. As much as you think that you found a "bad advocate", you haven't.
Finally, I see the exact same attitude almost daily in the Mozilla Lovers community. People complained for years about how bloated the AppSuite is, and the response was basically "Is Not".
I don't care what side the poor attitude is coming from. It's not my point. I'm looking for ideas to entice someone who is so deeply in love with Microsoft to try Firefox. I don't care if they ditch it afterwards for whatever reason. I would just like them to try it
Actually, I find converting the non techies easy. They trust that I know more than they do and let me install it for them or they install it themselves.
My problem is with the Microsoft lovers. They simply can't see the value of using anything but Microsoft products. I get "IE works just fine..." Hmmm, so does my Commodore 64, but you don't see me using it much these days. They have the attitude that it works and can't (don't want to?) understand the reasons to switch. They can't seem to be able to wrap their brains arround the fact that a community developed web browser could ever be better than what the mighty Microsoft has produced.
Any ideas on how to talk to these people? Has anyone out there ever been able to get a Microsoft Lover to switch? Please speakup, I'm running out of ideas.
I'm just waiting for the day that I can just bring in my keychain into a movie rental store or heck a self serve kiosk at the local convenience store, download the movie onto my keychain and plug it directly into my TV to watch.
No DVD player
No discs
No late fees
No damage insurance
Ya, I know, soon we'll be able to download the movies instead of going to the video store but this would be a nice feature for those who don't have broadband or need the movie to be portable.
Such thing should be implemented at kernel level to be transparent for *any* aplication.
Yes, you're right and the best way it can be done at the moment without breaking every app out there is with Reiser4 and it's plugin infrastucture.
I'm looking forward the the FOSS desktop with all the innovative development happening on all fronts like freedesktop.org, reiser4, gnome, openoffice.org, mozilla... The list just goes on and on.
The current packaging systems are not granular enough. A package should contain exactly 2 files, 1 for meta and the other for content - content being text, image, library, whatever. The system should be more like a relational database where it is properly normalised. That way the same data is not replicated all over the place like it is done now with the GPL licence on my Debian system and I would have the ability to update 1 file at a time which would be huge bandwith saver.
Another nice feature to the package manager would be a Reiser4 plugin. This plugin would take the package's meta information and store it as meta files on the filesystem.
Technology is supposed to be fun too. I think that most people who read this site got into technology because they found it interesting and fun. Looking Glass is a technology with a high fun factor and I welcome it. I can't wait to see what kind of cool stuff will come out of it when it is GPLd.
You're comparing the amount of money that you make to the amount that the actors make. That doesn't make any sense. Instead, compare what the actors make to the amount the show makes and you'll begin to see who the greedy ones really are.
Reveal Codes is the feature that I miss the most when using OOo. The OOo file format is xml and showing the xml should not be too difficult to implement, especially for Corel. Any killer feature that WordPerfect currently has could be intergrated into a custom version of OpenOffice as long as Corel agrees to share it's source of course.
I think the answer to Corel's problem is simple. Corel should sell their own version of OpenOffice as Sun does. Corel could include features such as grammar checking, templates, images, sounds, WordPerfect file format support, WordPerfect shortcuts, tutorials and technical support. That's how other companies are making money from free software but I guess Corel just doesn't get the concept yet.
If anyone knows more about what happened to MIT, I would be interested to know. MIT's score is higher than the other competitors so I wonder which of the problems they struggled on.
Actually, I find that most X11 GUIs are good at learning how you work and not the other way around. I tell my Window Manager the keys that are associated with the actions instead of learning the keys associated with those actions. I would rather teach my GUI how to work than have the GUI tell me how to work. It is a small investment for me that pays off because I spend over 8 hours a day staring at a monitor.
The problem is that most non-power users believe that it is more difficult to come up with ways to work. It is less effort for them to use their memory then their cognitive and creative abilities.
The parent's point isn't that the video is inaccessible. The point is that it is only accessible in a proprietary format. The whole thing is dripping with irony - Sun pushing openness in a video that isn't.
Isn't a rat's skull much thinner than a human's? Wouldn't a thicker skull protect your brain better than a thinner one? If they really wanted to compare the effects on humans, they should have put helmets on the rats.
You just don't get it. In the free software world, you never depend on a single company for support because you don't need to. The software that RedHat distributes is the same software that hundreds of other companies distribute. The nice thing about Redhat 7.3 is that I can download a new kernel if I want to without depending on Redhat. In fact, any part of Redhat can be updated without depending on Redhat or any other company. The game rules in the free software world are different, stop trying to play with the old rules.
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I've been using this technique for years - since 1998 I believe. The first application that I used it on was a kiosk. The kiosk application was done using IE and some ActiveX controls to read magcard from a reader and print to a serial port. Well, every time the page loaded, these ActiveX controls would take an eternity to init the serials ports and so on. So I put all that code into another hidden frame and used this hidden frame to control the display frame. Works great.
Yes and that something extraordinary is the tipping point. When this point has been reached, nothing will be able to stop the market adoption of Linux on the desktop. I predict the tipping at 30%. When Linux runs on 30% of desktops, most of the support that Microsoft is getting from the hardware and software vendors will exist for Linux. In other words, all the commercial software available for Windows will be or become available for Linux, including hardware drivers.
Who's going for pay Windows then? No one and Microsoft knows it. That is why they have developed .NET. Microsoft is trying to make .NET the succeeding platform because that they can control it.
Eerie. I felt like I was reading my own diary. The dates, the computers the mags, everything matches up quite nicely with my life, right down to the very close Slashdot Id. You must have read Chips n Dips in the good ole Rob Malda blogging days? How about Slackware, was that your first distribution? Don't tell me you installed it from 12 floppies. You probably played Space Quest but that's too easy. How about Bard's Tale? You're probably familiar with AT&V, AT&Z and the whole AT command set. How about the demo scene, where you into that? It always seemed like the Finnish guys ruled. Ok enough of that reminiscence, I need to complete my PHP/MySQL project and start my new Ruby app.
Shhhhh. Don't tell them. Let them figure it out on their own. Then again, they'll probably ignore anything you say here because the're not into the FOSS thing yet so any contributions such as the one you have just made will probably be ignored. Now, any constructive criticism for the Moz guys would be alright, they'll probably listen. If not, you could always patch your own version or write an extension.
LOL!
If I had mod points left I'd rate this funny.
Branding is important so I think that they should perhaps promote both project by naming it Netscpae Firefox.
Nope. The ones that I'm referring to have not tried Mozilla/Netscape in the last 3-4 years. They have not tried Mozilla ever and the last time they tried Netscape was at version 3.
I have, Just like I have with the Commodore 64. The ongoing security problems affect everyone and it is not a corner case.
I never said that IE sucks. Re-read parent post. I use IE for what it is good at - kiosk applications because of it's ability to use ActiveX controls. It's very good at running a single application running kiosk. Firefox is a better general purpose browser.
Wow, I don't know where you got that from my post but it is an interesting deduction. You're creative ability is definitly commendable. As much as you think that you found a "bad advocate", you haven't.
I don't care what side the poor attitude is coming from. It's not my point. I'm looking for ideas to entice someone who is so deeply in love with Microsoft to try Firefox. I don't care if they ditch it afterwards for whatever reason. I would just like them to try it
Actually, I find converting the non techies easy. They trust that I know more than they do and let me install it for them or they install it themselves.
My problem is with the Microsoft lovers. They simply can't see the value of using anything but Microsoft products. I get "IE works just fine..." Hmmm, so does my Commodore 64, but you don't see me using it much these days. They have the attitude that it works and can't (don't want to?) understand the reasons to switch. They can't seem to be able to wrap their brains arround the fact that a community developed web browser could ever be better than what the mighty Microsoft has produced.
Any ideas on how to talk to these people? Has anyone out there ever been able to get a Microsoft Lover to switch? Please speakup, I'm running out of ideas.
I'm just waiting for the day that I can just bring in my keychain into a movie rental store or heck a self serve kiosk at the local convenience store, download the movie onto my keychain and plug it directly into my TV to watch.
Ya, I know, soon we'll be able to download the movies instead of going to the video store but this would be a nice feature for those who don't have broadband or need the movie to be portable.
Yes, you're right and the best way it can be done at the moment without breaking every app out there is with Reiser4 and it's plugin infrastucture.
I'm looking forward the the FOSS desktop with all the innovative development happening on all fronts like freedesktop.org, reiser4, gnome, openoffice.org, mozilla... The list just goes on and on.
The current packaging systems are not granular enough. A package should contain exactly 2 files, 1 for meta and the other for content - content being text, image, library, whatever. The system should be more like a relational database where it is properly normalised. That way the same data is not replicated all over the place like it is done now with the GPL licence on my Debian system and I would have the ability to update 1 file at a time which would be huge bandwith saver.
Another nice feature to the package manager would be a Reiser4 plugin. This plugin would take the package's meta information and store it as meta files on the filesystem.
I've got an ATI Radeon 9000 PRO and using I'm using the ATI binary drivers. It crashes my system all the time when I start delving into GL apps.
Check the ATI Petition for Adequate Drivers in Linux to see how happy the current ATI users are with ATI. Last time I checked, there were 9919 Total Signatures which have been added in the last week.
Technology is supposed to be fun too. I think that most people who read this site got into technology because they found it interesting and fun. Looking Glass is a technology with a high fun factor and I welcome it. I can't wait to see what kind of cool stuff will come out of it when it is GPLd.
That might be true but you seem to be newer by about 143698 accounts.
Reveal Codes is the feature that I miss the most when using OOo. The OOo file format is xml and showing the xml should not be too difficult to implement, especially for Corel. Any killer feature that WordPerfect currently has could be intergrated into a custom version of OpenOffice as long as Corel agrees to share it's source of course.
I think the answer to Corel's problem is simple. Corel should sell their own version of OpenOffice as Sun does. Corel could include features such as grammar checking, templates, images, sounds, WordPerfect file format support, WordPerfect shortcuts, tutorials and technical support. That's how other companies are making money from free software but I guess Corel just doesn't get the concept yet.
If anyone knows more about what happened to MIT, I would be interested to know. MIT's score is higher than the other competitors so I wonder which of the problems they struggled on.
Actually, I find that most X11 GUIs are good at learning how you work and not the other way around. I tell my Window Manager the keys that are associated with the actions instead of learning the keys associated with those actions. I would rather teach my GUI how to work than have the GUI tell me how to work. It is a small investment for me that pays off because I spend over 8 hours a day staring at a monitor.
The problem is that most non-power users believe that it is more difficult to come up with ways to work. It is less effort for them to use their memory then their cognitive and creative abilities.
The parent's point isn't that the video is inaccessible. The point is that it is only accessible in a proprietary format. The whole thing is dripping with irony - Sun pushing openness in a video that isn't.
Isn't a rat's skull much thinner than a human's? Wouldn't a thicker skull protect your brain better than a thinner one? If they really wanted to compare the effects on humans, they should have put helmets on the rats.
The pathes for Windows are unavailble. Did you read the article? How can you pay for something that does not exists?
You just don't get it. In the free software world, you never depend on a single company for support because you don't need to. The software that RedHat distributes is the same software that hundreds of other companies distribute. The nice thing about Redhat 7.3 is that I can download a new kernel if I want to without depending on Redhat. In fact, any part of Redhat can be updated without depending on Redhat or any other company. The game rules in the free software world are different, stop trying to play with the old rules.
You could waste a bunch of paper or you could just write to a CD. You'll run out of paper way before you run out of space on the CD.