Or somebody who is not Chinese attempted to put the blame on China but accidentally mispelled the name?
Maybe it was written by a Chinese with a little more sense, trying to make everyone think that a Chinese person with the wherewithal to author a virus wouldn't mix up the acronym for his country's name.
You can check what R.P. might stand for at www.acronymfinder.com.
bin Laden is the heir to Saudi construction fortune
Not THE heir. He happens to have 50-60 siblings (His father has 10 or so "wives") and was excommunicated his family years ago. His position among his brothers - before he became the mound of dung that he now is - was also reportedly low, since his mother was among the least regarded in the group. In spite of this, cornholio got $250M when his dad died in '67.
"Reason" with them? Dude. Life is too short to spend getting f****d up the butt by a bunch of religious psychos.
Do you think there is some "rationale" behind the attacks? That I doubt. They (including the suicidal hijackers) were/are most likely thinking "let's hurt the Americans as much as we can in the service of Allah, Islam, etc, or for eternal paradise after death, whatever) They knew that they would only earn the hatred and vengeance of the US and its allies. While they've earned the admiration of a certain portion of the muslim world, this they know will not bring them or their people any earthly benefit.
Air traffic controllers got drunk and accidentally happened to direct large airplanes simultaneoulsly into the most prominent symbols of American power.
It's pretty clear that only a extremely small minority of/. posters (of which FFFish is not a member) know the first thing about biomedical research. I happen to be a member of that minority and can say without reservation, that no other region/country/union on this planet comes close to equaling the US in either basic or applied biological research.
Try visiting www.sciencemag.org, www.nature.com, www.cell.com and see for yourself.
(oh, yeah, those are sites of the top 3 journals publishing biological research - yes, on the planet)
Yep, mammalian cells normally divide only a fixed number of times - called the Hayflick limit. But if you take a bunch of cells from a tissue (particularly tumor tissue) and grow them in dishes, a very very small number of them will survive beyond this limit and will propagate indefinitely. They call these cells immortal because they will continue dividing for a long time - at least relative to normal mammalian cells. HeLa cells just happened to be the first such cell line. There are thousands of others now. As far as I know, there is no reason to expect that these cells will EVER stop dividing, given the appropriate growth conditions - although they might evolve into something pretty different from what they were originally.
And like you said, bacteria are the same - immortal. Doesn't mean they'll never die though, just that there's no inherent limit to their replication.
You're making it sound as if these cells are actually viable in the real (outside-the-lab) world. Mammalian cell lines would never ever ever ever survive outside the petri dish. A single average bacterium in healthy dish of HeLa cells could wipe out an entire dish out one day - and that's in the best possible environment for HeLa cells. Imagine what pond water or garden soil would do in one hour!
Additionally, a relatively high rate of mutation would tend to be beneficial to the survival of a cell line, and not detrimental as you suggest. This is one reason why cancer cells (or entire new species, or drug-resistant strains of HIV) arise in the first place (known to some as 'evolution')
The dramatic points about this story are that
1. Henrietta Lacks died of cancer 50 years ago.
2. Cells from her fatal tumor are still growing.
3. The biomass of those surviving cells is much greater than Ms. Lacks herself ever represented.
4. The cells are well known among medical researchers, but she herself remains much less reknowned.
5. Neither she nor her family ever received money for the use of the cells.
Check out www.atcc.org and do a search for "human" cell lines. At least half of the resulting 2000+ cell lines came from a people with nearly identical stories (just most most of them died more recently).
I work with a cell line from a white man who died from prostate cancer. Poor guy! No movie either!
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Or somebody who is not Chinese attempted to put the blame on China but accidentally mispelled the name?
Maybe it was written by a Chinese with a little more sense, trying to make everyone think that a Chinese person with the wherewithal to author a virus wouldn't mix up the acronym for his country's name.
You can check what R.P. might stand for at www.acronymfinder.com.
bin Laden is the heir to Saudi construction fortune Not THE heir. He happens to have 50-60 siblings (His father has 10 or so "wives") and was excommunicated his family years ago. His position among his brothers - before he became the mound of dung that he now is - was also reportedly low, since his mother was among the least regarded in the group. In spite of this, cornholio got $250M when his dad died in '67.
Yes you are a dork, aren't you.
"Reason" with them? Dude. Life is too short to spend getting f****d up the butt by a bunch of religious psychos.
Do you think there is some "rationale" behind the attacks? That I doubt. They (including the suicidal hijackers) were/are most likely thinking "let's hurt the Americans as much as we can in the service of Allah, Islam, etc, or for eternal paradise after death, whatever) They knew that they would only earn the hatred and vengeance of the US and its allies. While they've earned the admiration of a certain portion of the muslim world, this they know will not bring them or their people any earthly benefit.
Reason. God you sound dumb.
"fuck Allah." Rather it must have been someone with some sense in him.
Very well put.
They've invited us into the animal world.
She sure needs a rim job.
That's ridiculous.
Air traffic controllers got drunk and accidentally happened to direct large airplanes simultaneoulsly into the most prominent symbols of American power.
It's headquartered in Atlanta.
Weren't certain of your comments (eg, Looks like it's about to be the same in biotechnology) in reference to the stem cell issue?
NZ does no important scientific research, but we've got a million great microbrews.
Sorry.
I'd like to set things straight.
/. posters (of which FFFish is not a member) know the first thing about biomedical research. I happen to be a member of that minority and can say without reservation, that no other region/country/union on this planet comes close to equaling the US in either basic or applied biological research.
It's pretty clear that only a extremely small minority of
Try visiting www.sciencemag.org, www.nature.com, www.cell.com and see for yourself.
(oh, yeah, those are sites of the top 3 journals publishing biological research - yes, on the planet)
...the private sector inevitably picks up the slack for anything worthwhile.
Only if by "worthwhile" you mean "with a fairly clear likelihood of producing profit in the relatively near future."
Yep, mammalian cells normally divide only a fixed number of times - called the Hayflick limit. But if you take a bunch of cells from a tissue (particularly tumor tissue) and grow them in dishes, a very very small number of them will survive beyond this limit and will propagate indefinitely. They call these cells immortal because they will continue dividing for a long time - at least relative to normal mammalian cells. HeLa cells just happened to be the first such cell line. There are thousands of others now. As far as I know, there is no reason to expect that these cells will EVER stop dividing, given the appropriate growth conditions - although they might evolve into something pretty different from what they were originally.
And like you said, bacteria are the same - immortal. Doesn't mean they'll never die though, just that there's no inherent limit to their replication.
You're making it sound as if these cells are actually viable in the real (outside-the-lab) world. Mammalian cell lines would never ever ever ever survive outside the petri dish. A single average bacterium in healthy dish of HeLa cells could wipe out an entire dish out one day - and that's in the best possible environment for HeLa cells. Imagine what pond water or garden soil would do in one hour! Additionally, a relatively high rate of mutation would tend to be beneficial to the survival of a cell line, and not detrimental as you suggest. This is one reason why cancer cells (or entire new species, or drug-resistant strains of HIV) arise in the first place (known to some as 'evolution')
The dramatic points about this story are that 1. Henrietta Lacks died of cancer 50 years ago. 2. Cells from her fatal tumor are still growing. 3. The biomass of those surviving cells is much greater than Ms. Lacks herself ever represented. 4. The cells are well known among medical researchers, but she herself remains much less reknowned. 5. Neither she nor her family ever received money for the use of the cells. Check out www.atcc.org and do a search for "human" cell lines. At least half of the resulting 2000+ cell lines came from a people with nearly identical stories (just most most of them died more recently). I work with a cell line from a white man who died from prostate cancer. Poor guy! No movie either!