Yep, 140 is right, and making notches too! (Worked on some IBM XTs as well, as far as I can remember!:) ).
Paul B.
P.S. Your.signature reminded me to put something alond the lines of ronpaulrevolution.org into mine...
Yeah, UCSD p-code Pascal! :)
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My first real computer (not to count my very dear hex-codes programmable calculator, though at that time I did not know it was hex codes, just some numbers and first couple letters, in 4th or 5th grade:) ) was a Bulgarian clone of Apple ][. Yes, with (equally pirated) p-code system written in that strange unknown place called UCSD, had something to do with mythical California... I still do not understand how did they fit p-code interpreter, compiler, libraries (including graphics), editor and file browser runnable on 32K and loadable from a 5" floppy (it was not 360K, more like 128K, right?)... Eat THAT, JVM!:)
Moscow, 1984, I think... (Hmm, interesting year...;) ).
Yep, good analogy. To me, it sounded like a digital equivalent of (analog) spread-spectrum communications. Or, as another poster replying to you, a version of distributed ECC. Sounds cool, will have to read the actual paper...:)
Except that FSF has nothing to do with "Linux", while something to do with "GNU/Linux". I'm not making fun of them, but they can not go to court to protect something copyright to which was not transferred to them (read their plentiful "Hot to properly GPL your software" HOWTOs for some discussion of this exact issue) -- and I doubt that MSFT is after gcc or emacs, they are after "Linux" in general.
besides former Stasi collabporators/agents/etc. (as pointed out by several posts above mine), I bet (if East Germany intelligence was as good as it was supposed to be) there might be some Western leaders as well who would not like their secret files to be made public...
1) It got some Federal money 2) It got some State money 3) It got some private money 4) It actually captured some CO2 5) It captured more carbon than sending all the waste paper to the landfill rather than recycling it would do?
It's a pity you posted as AC -- thus, most likely will not see this:) -- but thanks for refreshing my memory!
Yes, it was a bit confusing, first I had to find out that POWER!=PowerPC, pretty soon after that that there is almost a seamless transition between the two... I guess I stopped following that story between POWER3 and POWER4, which left me in a bit confused state!:)
But I still stand by me recollection that one of the original goals was to make all x86 programs (including Windows of that time) efficiently runnable on them -- but maybe I have (after some Wikipedia digging) PowerPC 615 in mind...
As far as I remember one of the original goals of PPC architecture in the times of original IBM/Moto/Apple consortium 15 years ago was to be able to emulate "other" (x86, maybe?;-) ) processors efficiently. Strangely I have not heard about something like this being actually used up until today! (Yes, I know that POWER != PPC, but I think the parts are still there).
... otherwise I can go to the lab tomorrow and drop a whopping *palm-sized* mirrow in a dewar of liquid He to get within a factor of 4 to their achievement! And then. if keep being nice to other guys around, I can sneak a dime-sized object to cool to, like, some mK...:)
Yep, I did read the whole thread, and yep, Kenny is an interesting characted of c.l.l., often a troll, but often quite insightful (and his lisp advice is useful).
Me? Proud user of Linux as my primary desktop since kernel version ~0.91 and big fan of lisp since even before then, but do not assume that seeing a picture of a boot-up sequence, even from the first-class seat is necessarily a good thing!:)
If you seriously consider "being happy but unemployed" -- by all means, please be! You do not have too much time until such a choice is no longer an option, seriosuly!
Paul B.
P.S. Upstate NY is not too bad though, if you were posting from some middle of nowhere I might've given a less cynical advice!:)
Of course there is some selection bias—the very fact of their being here implies that. Thanks for the kind words about our bunch of people (I am Soviet-educated dude working in North America for the last, like, 13 years myself) -- but I would suggest that your bias is not as slight as you think. You are most probably dealing with equivalents of Ivy League school graduates! The actual disparity in everything (including education) was much worse in Soviet Union than here -- I've worked with American professionals who grew up in the middle of nowhere; my co-worker and friend described himself like this: "You've heard of Amish, right? -- Well, my family was like that, except that we did have a refrigerator...:) ". Someone like him in former Soviet Union would have much worse chances of any kind of success.
Just ask your former Soviet Union guys where they grew up and which college they went to -- you will be surprized how little "diversity" there will be!
If I was pro-choice, pro-decriminalisation of heroin, anti-war, economically liberal but anti-welfare, an anarchist and a Randian Objectivist (I *think* I could be all of those at once) would that make me left- or right-wing?
Why, you would be a libertarian (US)/true liberal (old world).
it can reduce longer-term costs (that might arise if those people aren't helped: crime, etc)
Paying someone off a little bit to reduce probability of crime being commited against you?... Hmm, is not it called "protection racket"? I've heard that in certain Italian cities or Hell's Angels' -- controlled American towns it is quite effective in bringing you some peace of mind (and, some libertarians would argue, if there is enough competition in that market it is somewhat better than having a single (probably corrupt) Sheriff in town) -- but it is surely not what you had in mind, right?
I agree with both of your other points though -- yes, I think that a judge signing for a punishment for someone later found innocent should be subject to the same punishment for that; and do not get me started on the whole "hate crime" idea!
They're investigating a violent protest - a policeman (apparently) had his skull cracked, for goodness sake. I don't care how pure your protest motives are, that sort of thing is never appropriate.
As much as I disagree with the whole anti-globalization violent-protesting punks (not to be confused with level-headed anarchists like myself:-) ) -- why do you accept the notion that "policemen" have some special rights, while "journalists" do not? (Mind the quotes!). Either there is the same set of laws for all the people -- or not, and then I'd rather live in a country which grants more rights to the eyewitness (~journalist) than agents of the State (~police).
Paul B.
P.S. Tilde above refers to "approximately", not "not"!
... it will give more voice to people who are tech savvy - not exactly the ideal in a democratic republic (or whatever Britain is).
And why would you say that? I guess we would both agree that in our time it is, in some sense, better when people going to polls are literate (as in, able to actually read something about an issue) -- not that I would advocate taking the right to vote from illiterate people, that would be wrong.
The same slight bias towards "tech--" (and probably something else) -- savvy individuals might be healthy as well.
For processing what matters is EM wave propagation speed (if done right) or -- agreed -- RC time constant/your "voltage difference" if I parse it right (if done wrong, but in the most common way for now).
And then, individual electrons do not really move that far that fast... Lumping all three into "electricy" is a source of too common misunderstanding that somehow "light" is faster that "electricity"...
Just a thought, but doesn't that mean that you could use superposition to your advantage.
I'm no expert on the intricacies of microprocessor design, but it seems to me that being able to re-use the most frequently used elements would be quite beneficial.
Congratulations, you've just re-invented a quantum computer, really! Put a bunch of bits into quantum superposition state (starting calling them qubits from now on) and perform some operations on all at once.
Things like this do work well with (a couple of) photons, as a matter of fact they were shown to work -- though other techniques still work better (NMR, superconductor stuff -- but I can not talk about the latter:) ).
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Yep, 140 is right, and making notches too! (Worked on some IBM XTs as well, as far as I can remember! :) ).
.signature reminded me to put something alond the lines of ronpaulrevolution.org into mine...
Paul B.
P.S. Your
My first real computer (not to count my very dear hex-codes programmable calculator, though at that time I did not know it was hex codes, just some numbers and first couple letters, in 4th or 5th grade :) ) was a Bulgarian clone of Apple ][. Yes, with (equally pirated) p-code system written in that strange unknown place called UCSD, had something to do with mythical California... I still do not understand how did they fit p-code interpreter, compiler, libraries (including graphics), editor and file browser runnable on 32K and loadable from a 5" floppy (it was not 360K, more like 128K, right?)... Eat THAT, JVM! :)
;) ).
Moscow, 1984, I think... (Hmm, interesting year...
Paul B.
Yep, good analogy. To me, it sounded like a digital equivalent of (analog) spread-spectrum communications. Or, as another poster replying to you, a version of distributed ECC. Sounds cool, will have to read the actual paper... :)
Paul B.
Except that FSF has nothing to do with "Linux", while something to do with "GNU/Linux". I'm not making fun of them, but they can not go to court to protect something copyright to which was not transferred to them (read their plentiful "Hot to properly GPL your software" HOWTOs for some discussion of this exact issue) -- and I doubt that MSFT is after gcc or emacs, they are after "Linux" in general.
Paul B.
besides former Stasi collabporators/agents/etc. (as pointed out by several posts above mine), I bet (if East Germany intelligence was as good as it was supposed to be) there might be some Western leaders as well who would not like their secret files to be made public...
Paul B.
1) It got some Federal money
2) It got some State money
3) It got some private money
4) It actually captured some CO2
5) It captured more carbon than sending all the waste paper to the landfill rather than recycling it would do?
Paul B.
... can I get some of the search terms you were typing in? ;-)
Paul B.
It's a pity you posted as AC -- thus, most likely will not see this :) -- but thanks for refreshing my memory!
:)
Yes, it was a bit confusing, first I had to find out that POWER!=PowerPC, pretty soon after that that there is almost a seamless transition between the two... I guess I stopped following that story between POWER3 and POWER4, which left me in a bit confused state!
But I still stand by me recollection that one of the original goals was to make all x86 programs (including Windows of that time) efficiently runnable on them -- but maybe I have (after some Wikipedia digging) PowerPC 615 in mind...
Paul B.
Paul B.
As far as I remember one of the original goals of PPC architecture in the times of original IBM/Moto/Apple consortium 15 years ago was to be able to emulate "other" (x86, maybe? ;-) ) processors efficiently. Strangely I have not heard about something like this being actually used up until today! (Yes, I know that POWER != PPC, but I think the parts are still there).
Paul B.
... SKUNKWORKS! :)
Really, this is why these kinds of settings work.
Paul B.
... otherwise I can go to the lab tomorrow and drop a whopping *palm-sized* mirrow in a dewar of liquid He to get within a factor of 4 to their achievement! And then. if keep being nice to other guys around, I can sneak a dime-sized object to cool to, like, some mK... :)
Paul B.
Yep, I did read the whole thread, and yep, Kenny is an interesting characted of c.l.l., often a troll, but often quite insightful (and his lisp advice is useful).
Paul B.
;-)
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:)
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.lisp/bro
Me? Proud user of Linux as my primary desktop since kernel version ~0.91 and big fan of lisp since even before then, but do not assume that seeing a picture of a boot-up sequence, even from the first-class seat is necessarily a good thing!
If you seriously consider "being happy but unemployed" -- by all means, please be! You do not have too much time until such a choice is no longer an option, seriosuly!
:)
Paul B.
P.S. Upstate NY is not too bad though, if you were posting from some middle of nowhere I might've given a less cynical advice!
Just ask your former Soviet Union guys where they grew up and which college they went to -- you will be surprized how little "diversity" there will be!
Paul B.
If I was pro-choice, pro-decriminalisation of heroin, anti-war, economically liberal but anti-welfare, an anarchist and a Randian Objectivist (I *think* I could be all of those at once) would that make me left- or right-wing?
Why, you would be a libertarian (US)/true liberal (old world).
See also: http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html for more 2-D view of politics, rather than traditional 1-D left/right view...
Paul B.
it can reduce longer-term costs (that might arise if those people aren't helped: crime, etc)
Paying someone off a little bit to reduce probability of crime being commited against you?... Hmm, is not it called "protection racket"? I've heard that in certain Italian cities or Hell's Angels' -- controlled American towns it is quite effective in bringing you some peace of mind (and, some libertarians would argue, if there is enough competition in that market it is somewhat better than having a single (probably corrupt) Sheriff in town) -- but it is surely not what you had in mind, right?
Paul B.
... YES!
Paul B.
P.S. This should also put to rest the "Does it play well with Linux?" thread...
http://www.constitution.org/lrev/roots/cops.htm
I agree with both of your other points though -- yes, I think that a judge signing for a punishment for someone later found innocent should be subject to the same punishment for that; and do not get me started on the whole "hate crime" idea!
Paul B.
They're investigating a violent protest - a policeman (apparently) had his skull cracked, for goodness sake. I don't care how pure your protest motives are, that sort of thing is never appropriate.
:-) ) -- why do you accept the notion that "policemen" have some special rights, while "journalists" do not? (Mind the quotes!). Either there is the same set of laws for all the people -- or not, and then I'd rather live in a country which grants more rights to the eyewitness (~journalist) than agents of the State (~police).
As much as I disagree with the whole anti-globalization violent-protesting punks (not to be confused with level-headed anarchists like myself
Paul B.
P.S. Tilde above refers to "approximately", not "not"!
... did not it?
:-/
/.-er respects Bruce Schneier, who has this http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2007/02/nont errorist_em.html to say...
Oh, irony...
Paul B.
P.S. Reason has some good coverage of the incident: http://reason.com/news/show/118476.html and the aftermath: http://reason.com/blog/show/118625.html .
And of course any self-respecting
And everyone knows that bombs have blinking lights on 'em. Every single movie bomb you've ever seen has a blinking light.
... it will give more voice to people who are tech savvy - not exactly the ideal in a democratic republic (or whatever Britain is).
And why would you say that? I guess we would both agree that in our time it is, in some sense, better when people going to polls are literate (as in, able to actually read something about an issue) -- not that I would advocate taking the right to vote from illiterate people, that would be wrong.
The same slight bias towards "tech--" (and probably something else) -- savvy individuals might be healthy as well.
Paul B.
P.S. Yes, I do like the idea too!
http://dwave.wordpress.com/2007/01/24/on-its-way-t o-5mk/
I bet they use something similar...
Paul B.
Yeah, but THAT was the pun in GGP joke! :)
For processing what matters is EM wave propagation speed (if done right) or -- agreed -- RC time constant/your "voltage difference" if I parse it right (if done wrong, but in the most common way for now).
And then, individual electrons do not really move that far that fast... Lumping all three into "electricy" is a source of too common misunderstanding that somehow "light" is faster that "electricity"...
Paul B.
Just a thought, but doesn't that mean that you could use superposition to your advantage.
:) ).
I'm no expert on the intricacies of microprocessor design, but it seems to me that being able to re-use the most frequently used elements would be quite beneficial.
Congratulations, you've just re-invented a quantum computer, really! Put a bunch of bits into quantum superposition state (starting calling them qubits from now on) and perform some operations on all at once.
Things like this do work well with (a couple of) photons, as a matter of fact they were shown to work -- though other techniques still work better (NMR, superconductor stuff -- but I can not talk about the latter
For fun, check this out: http://dwave.wordpress.com/
Paul B.