Yeah right, like they are going to sign their name on a Trojan. No one could be that stupid.
However, what you have just done is published the address of the 'victim', which is possibly what the original author of the trojan wanted.
Now Melbourne slashdotters who think like you will be paying a visit to this address, the next time I'm walking along Bourke I'll look out for any damage they may have caused.
Yeah, chances are you an ignorant type and have only sampled the exported Australian beers, not only that, but perhaps it doesn't taste close enough to water?
2. Crime
errr next one - Americans also invented the Second Amendment - what a great invention that was!
I'm sure I've posted this before, but it's worth another mention. It seems Hop-on have promised other 'great' things as well.
In Australia, for months their was advertising for Hop-On - free Internet access on the back of taxi's. The website was www.hop-on.com.au, and you had to go there to register. (URL is now broken).
It seems to be the same hop-on as the website uses the same style and advertising mascot as the one in the US.
The free internet never came, and was never heard of again.
a while back I was looking for info on the Melbourne (that's in Australia for you Americans;-) meetup, but I forgot about it completely.
I guess a lot of people weren't aware of the meetup, I think if there were perhaps a reminder of some kind for upcoming meets on the main page the turn out would have been a lot bigger.
I know there is a website with all these details, the problem is if you don't know about this website (as a lot of slashdot readers don't see every article) then you still don't know about the events.
20-30 is quite small for a city the size of Melbourne (about 4 million I think), and I definitely know there are heaps of slashdotters here.
Actually I think it would be feasible in Melbourne or Sydney - their populations are reasonable on an International scale...
The broadband telecommunications infrastructure in urban Melbourne/Sydney is actually quite good - it's just that it has a lack of accessibility to the average customer.
The Melbourne Exhibition Centre has successfully hosted large geek events before - there is a 3500 person LAN planned for next year apparently. So I disagree with your comments about population and transport and to a certain extent infrastructure.
in which case you'll need to do some type of monitoring in case the cops show up investigating a possible crime
What kind of monitoring? If I were his neighbours I would *not* be comfortable with a neighbour monitoring my Internet traffic, other than of course the amount of data I transfer.
"Above all we need to have a proper public transport infrastructure before a congestion charging scheme can be introduced"
I thought London had a developed underground railway and train network? Pardon my ignorance, I've never been there - can anyone comment on what this comment meant?
Yeah we used to do that at my school that recently bumped the soft drink can prices up to 1.2 AUD. In value packs, you can get cans each (Coke and Pepsi varieties - eg fanta, Dew, etc) for 0.4 AUD which is like a 1/3rd of the price. Then sold it to people for 0.8-1.0 AUD and made a fair profit - enough to keep drinks for yourself and friends free. Pissed off the school administration though.
That's a nifty 'solution' but it doesn't prevent someone from spoofing the traffic from that particular IP address. So someone could pretend to be 204.179.120.93
I'll agree with that - I don't understand why more movies aren't filmed in Melbourne. In the US both LA and NYC are used to film movies - usually with a distinct genre, so I don't see why Melbourne and Sydney could be used. The problem is Melbourne is too un-American I guess as you said.
That doesn't suddenly make charging to RECEIVE a call on a wireless device alright - I think it's INSANE. No wonder the wireless penetration in the US is so low.
So what you have fixed rate local calls - in Australia we pay like 0.15AUD (8c US) for local calls no matter how long they go for and we have a decent cellular charging system as well...
So if we can have the best of both worlds, I don't see why other countries can't.
And this is exactly what the article is talking about. This is the reason why the US is behind in this technology.
There is nothing wrong with this attitude at all, however in other countries this attitude is generally not accepted, and that is the reason they adopt wireless technology more quickly.
No this is not flamebait, I'm just pointing out the obvious.
This technology might have been useful a few years ago, but in the last couple years I haven't heard any phones go off in the cinema (which I do frequent).
It seems everyone (including myself) knows the drill of switching their phone into a silent profile - or if they can't figure that out they turn it off.
And the problem has been solved - without losing any contact with the GSM network (so phones can still register missed calls/SMSes/etc).
I don't know what the situation is like in the US - obviously it's still a problem I gather based on the posts I have seen - but educating people - friendly reminders etc, does seem to work
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know what you are talking about. The censorship was to score political points and does not actually change anything..
As for broadband, DSL is widespread here and becoming reasonably priced - eg US$25-40 a month - hardly unreasonable.
It's the cable that sucks, but that's only in Melbourne & Sydney.
--JQuirke
Sorry, it's late and I'm not thinking straight.
Mod my post down please.
Yeah right, like they are going to sign their name on a Trojan. No one could be that stupid.
However, what you have just done is published the address of the 'victim', which is possibly what the original author of the trojan wanted.
Now Melbourne slashdotters who think like you will be paying a visit to this address, the next time I'm walking along Bourke I'll look out for any damage they may have caused.
--jquirke
FreeBSD != OpenBSD
--jquirke
DISCLAIMER: I am not an expert in radio nor do I know a great deal about it.
But from what I do know, radio is the most complicated, unpredictable phenomenenon around... my wireless LAN is a classic example of this!
Expert shrug their shoulders when asked how a particular antenna design works "hey, I don't know how it works, it just does".
I pray that you are not American...
Because if you are:
1. Shitty beer
Yeah, chances are you an ignorant type and have only sampled the exported Australian beers, not only that, but perhaps it doesn't taste close enough to water?
2. Crime
errr next one - Americans also invented the Second Amendment - what a great invention that was!
3. Stupidty
Yes you australias are very cool lol
--jquirke
I'm sure I've posted this before, but it's worth another mention. It seems Hop-on have promised other 'great' things as well.
In Australia, for months their was advertising for Hop-On - free Internet access on the back of taxi's. The website was www.hop-on.com.au, and you had to go there to register. (URL is now broken).
It seems to be the same hop-on as the website uses the same style and advertising mascot as the one in the US.
The free internet never came, and was never heard of again.
So I would be very skeptical of this company.
--jquirke
a while back I was looking for info on the Melbourne (that's in Australia for you Americans ;-) meetup, but I forgot about it completely.
I guess a lot of people weren't aware of the meetup, I think if there were perhaps a reminder of some kind for upcoming meets on the main page the turn out would have been a lot bigger.
I know there is a website with all these details, the problem is if you don't know about this website (as a lot of slashdot readers don't see every article) then you still don't know about the events.
20-30 is quite small for a city the size of Melbourne (about 4 million I think), and I definitely know there are heaps of slashdotters here.
--jquirke
Actually I think it would be feasible in Melbourne or Sydney - their populations are reasonable on an International scale...
The broadband telecommunications infrastructure in urban Melbourne/Sydney is actually quite good - it's just that it has a lack of accessibility to the average customer.
The Melbourne Exhibition Centre has successfully hosted large geek events before - there is a 3500 person LAN planned for next year apparently. So I disagree with your comments about population and transport and to a certain extent infrastructure.
--JQuirke
in which case you'll need to do some type of monitoring in case the cops show up investigating a possible crime
What kind of monitoring? If I were his neighbours I would *not* be comfortable with a neighbour monitoring my Internet traffic, other than of course the amount of data I transfer.
--JQuirke
Yeah and remember all those problems they had with the "eTag" transponders that resulted in the freeway been free for several extra months?
--jquirke
"Above all we need to have a proper public transport infrastructure before a congestion charging scheme can be introduced"
I thought London had a developed underground railway and train network? Pardon my ignorance, I've never been there - can anyone comment on what this comment meant?
--jquirke
This is supposed to be moderated as Funny right...? I hope so...
Yeah we used to do that at my school that recently bumped the soft drink can prices up to 1.2 AUD. In value packs, you can get cans each (Coke and Pepsi varieties - eg fanta, Dew, etc) for 0.4 AUD which is like a 1/3rd of the price. Then sold it to people for 0.8-1.0 AUD and made a fair profit - enough to keep drinks for yourself and friends free. Pissed off the school administration though.
My original post was taken the wrong way.
It was not an attack on your idea, sir.
I was merely pointing out to others who may have interpreted it as a solution and felt they were safe that this did not eliminate the vulnerability.
--jquirke
That's a nifty 'solution' but it doesn't prevent someone from spoofing the traffic from that particular IP address. So someone could pretend to be 204.179.120.93
Do you think that if this was something dodgey going on it would show up in WinXP's netstat command?
I don't think so.
I'll agree with that - I don't understand why more movies aren't filmed in Melbourne. In the US both LA and NYC are used to film movies - usually with a distinct genre, so I don't see why Melbourne and Sydney could be used. The problem is Melbourne is too un-American I guess as you said.
No, but I'm pretty sure I saw the World Trade Centre a couple of times.
Newton's Law of Gravitation:
Force between two objects is proportional to product of masses divided by square of the distance.
F = GMm/r^2 (where G is constant of gravitation)
Newton's Second Law of Motion:
Force is proportional to mass multiplied by acceleration (ma)
Therefore ma = GMm/r^2
a = GM/r^2.
rotational velocity = sqrt(GM/r)
Therefore rotational velocity is independent of the Earth's mass.
That doesn't suddenly make charging to RECEIVE a call on a wireless device alright - I think it's INSANE. No wonder the wireless penetration in the US is so low.
So what you have fixed rate local calls - in Australia we pay like 0.15AUD (8c US) for local calls no matter how long they go for and we have a decent cellular charging system as well...
So if we can have the best of both worlds, I don't see why other countries can't.
No, I live in Melbourne, Australia, where people generally are considerate.
And this is exactly what the article is talking about. This is the reason why the US is behind in this technology.
There is nothing wrong with this attitude at all, however in other countries this attitude is generally not accepted, and that is the reason they adopt wireless technology more quickly.
No this is not flamebait, I'm just pointing out the obvious.
This technology might have been useful a few years ago, but in the last couple years I haven't heard any phones go off in the cinema (which I do frequent).
/SMSes/etc).
It seems everyone (including myself) knows the drill of switching their phone into a silent profile - or if they can't figure that out they turn it off.
And the problem has been solved - without losing any contact with the GSM network (so phones can still register missed calls
I don't know what the situation is like in the US - obviously it's still a problem I gather based on the posts I have seen - but educating people - friendly reminders etc, does seem to work
You don't get it. I've seen CD-copying machines here for ages but now the issue is about the fair use of them.
--jquirke