There is a difference. If you have a PBX with ten trunk lines, then you have ten telephone numbers going into them. Its like having unique IP addresses on unique ten interfaces.
But VIOP is more like a router with a subnet. They have a whole set of telephone numbers behind there. They don't have one line for each number they manage. So in theory, they could be taxed by number rather than by line. That makes a big difference.
The difference really is that they represent a pool of numbers rather than a simple set of lines. It is a similar interface to how cellular networks tie into land based networks. They interface with a switch that allows all of those numbers to be switched by address rather than by line. Its a lot different interface than a PBX.
It's not about carrying voice traffic over TCP/IP, though that is what the name implies. What these VOIP companies are doing is tying their internet operations into local REAL telephone connections. They are using normal, dialable 7/10 digit numbers to identify destinations, and they are crossing traffic over between internet and telephone networks.
AOL Talk, MS Netmeeting, heck even Battlecom allow you to carry voice over IP. But the difference is you can't dial up you phone number from Battlecom and make your phone ring.
The VOIP in these cases are companies that tie into real telephone networks. They issue real telephone numbers to their customers. You can use a normal telephone to reach them. That means they are regulatable by the same standards as normal telephone. The regulators own the address space, not just the service standards.
The easiest way to avoid this regulation and fees is not to tie into the telephone network, don't use the same 7/10 digit address space and don't claim you can call normal telephones. You do that and there's no fees and no regulation.
I have to observe that this all sounds familiar. Techies are responding to this type of news with some of the same arguements that Microsoft was using when they were first hit by customers using Linux.
Microsoft couldn't understand that people would abandon their "high quality" but expensive software for that cheap home grown linux stuff. It just didn't make since. TCO and compatibility was the arguement of the day. For some reason that arguement didn't work for them.
Now the table is turned. Techies are arguing that abandoning good old US (or other expensive techies in developed countries) for cheap labor in India or wherever wont work. we say they lack the knowledge and experience. But after a while, India will develop, mature, and have the real experience to handle most of the complex tasks involved.
Business is business, and what comes around goes around. We should learn from what is happening rather than go into denial.
(For the record, the company I work for just had a 30% purge and is planning a major offshore push. Yes, I'm deeply affected.)
I read about this a while back on Ed Foster's Gripe Line. It says both there and here that you have to opt out. But it doesn't say either place HOW to opt out.
I've been poking around the Register.com site and can't find anything about the settlement or the opt out. Has anyone else found it yet?
To Mr Raymond's partial credit, he asked the attacker to stop. However, he has yet to disclose the identity of the perpetrator so that justice can be done.
They'll get the name of the DDOSers when SCO turns over their Executives to the proper authorities for fraud investigation. Then we will see some justice done.
No one can tolerate DDoS attacks and other kinds of attacks in this Information Age economy that relies so heavily on the Internet.
... and yet, That is basically what SCO is trying to do to Linux. They are trying to execute a legal DOS against Open Source (and by legal, I mean "using legal tools", not that what they are doing is itself legal) That has to be one of their better super-hypocritical statements of the month (not that they don't have plenty of those either)
VoIP lets people talk at a great distance and travels over telco lines. And does not get taxed.
Well, mostly. But that is not what the real fight is about. You can use any number of internet voice communication tools to transmit voice communication across the internet. (BattleCom, AIM Talk,...). It's not just "voice" that is at issue.
These VOIP carriers do more than just carry data. They also interface with the currenty telephone system. AIM has an address range of all AOL member names and AIM names. The person on the other end has to be on AOL/AIM.
On the other hand, the telephone system has 7 digit or 10 digit addresses that cover almost every house/office/location in the country. It is a much larger address space and includes many more people. VOIP companies cross networks. They take calls from Computers, cross network into the telephone system and allow you to call someone using the other technology. Once you do that, you automatically fall under that jurisdiction and regulation. Most of the problem is about where and how that crossover occures. Data carriers want to crossover in the place that will cost them the least. Local Telephone providers want that crossover to occure in the place that gives them more revenue. Hence the conflict.
If the voice call stays entirely in internet address space, then there is not a problem. No crossover, no fee, no tax, no problem.
But it seems that the need is for reliable communication channels, and that need can be fulfilled as much by reliable internet technology as it can by reliable copper wire technology. I would be inclined to shift those elements of regulation (availibility, reliability) to data carriers, rather than try to reclassify certain types of data as copper wire technology for the sake of regulation.
The country needs that reliability. But it does not necessarily need it in its current form.
Red Hat doesn't have to win. Heck, they don't even have to fight for very long. The most important thing that will happen is that SCO will be forced to place all of their evidence in the public record. No more of the "we have evidence but will not show anyone" crap. Once the evidence is in public record, Red Hat can do almost anything, settle, bail, license or persuit. But once it IS in public record, you can bet that it will be corrected in the source code in every way necessary. Then SCO won't have a case any more, no matter what happens to Red Hat.
If you are refering to address space, AMDs first implementation has 40 bit physical address space, 48 bit virtual address space. Their spec states that later implementations will have up to 52 bit physical address, 64 bit virtual address.
I can't speak for G5 or IA64, but they probably have similar limitations, either specific implementation or general design.
The blurb is wrong. In the auction item, it states that the helmet was made for the second season, but was not used. It does not say anything about the second season not being filmed.
This sounds like it is prone to the same sort of problems that other open forums can suffer when money is applied: When information on certain topics becomes valuable enough to cost/win money, then information exchange breaks down.
Right now, everyone and their dog is spouting off about what will or will not happen. So a lot of general information, facts and basic analysis is flowing fairly freely. A lot of otherwise good analyst who do not happen to have personal access to basic facts/history/information can get it by searching or reading forums. When analysis becomes valuable enough to merit money, then that "free" information will dry up. Noone will want to give other people any advantage. The end result is a decrease in the flow if general information.
This same problem was described before when the idea of Bounties for Spammers was introduced. It was suggested that Anti-spammer info would suddenly dry up because anti-spamers would hoard it in search of their own prize rather than share.
My wife has a sewing machine that has a computer port. You can download embroidery patterns into it using various embroidery file formats. It can then "print out" these patterns on whatever clothing you want.
I ran across this last year when I wanted to make a jacket that had all sorts of Open Source project logos on it. I went to a sports shop that did custom embroidery to get info. They said they could take a bitmap image and convert it to an appropriate file format "for just a few hundred dollars", then duplicate it to as many shirts/jackets/hats as I wanted for a few bucks each. So apparently the file is everything and the duplication is negligible.
So two points here:
1. How much is that embroidery file worth when creating it is hundreds of dollars and printing is almost free?
2. Where can I get embroidery files for all sorts of Open Source project logos (Like Tux, *BSD Deamon, GNU Gnu, Apache feather, PostgreSQL elephant, KDE Gears, Gnome paw print...)?
And I would presume appropriate trademark/copyright protection would apply to such logos in the same sort of way as patent/copyright would apply to other manufacturing file formats.
Yeah, Berman and Bragga together are the touch of death. How many shows have you seen where nothing actually happens that weren't wrtten by Bragga? Who the hell are these guys sucking off to keep their jobs?
The best thing Viacom could do to revive the franchise is get rid of Berman and Bragga! There have to be plenty of good idea people around the Star Trek universe who can bring in and produce more fresh ideas. You have the Star Trek book lines, plenty of fan fiction, Game writers, alternate universes (Galaxy Quest,...). Bring in some fresh talent and submit Berman and Bragga to the Pit of Dispare.
Hormel does not care if they use the word "SPAM".(or at one point did not care. They may have changed their minds.) The problem is that a lot of sites/groups (Slashdot included) use a picture of the Hormel Spam Can as a symbol of the email spam. That's what they are mad about. That is very much Hormel's property and is definitely not something that can be confused with email.
(This couresy of NRP this morning. The article seems a bit thin on the subject. YMMV)
I've heard of strange theories where a rapidly spinning Black Hole might separate enough to form a torus, and the event horizon would follow it. Thus, if you flew through the hole but still outside the horizon, you go to strange places.
Note: this post is intended to advocate the violent overthrow of the US or any other government.
With a motto like that, you're going in the right direction. Applying the descriptions "obsolete" and "useless" to something with the initials GWB is likely to stir up some trouble.
As soon as I read this, I thought of Mission of Gravity, a book about a flattened planet, Jupiter size, 18 minute rotation, Surface gravity at the equator was about 3 Earth G, while at the pole was more like 600+ Earth G, flat just like this. It was written in 1953 I believe, and included some detailed physics in the back of the book covering how the planet maintains it shape.
The story is about natives on the planet, but the physics alone is worth the read. It's quite a strange place.
Actually, that is very interesting. Any bets you've stunbled onto an entirely different cheat?
Let's say Microsoft wanted Outlook to have some special capabilities in the operating system. So the OS recognizes it and gives it special treatment. Another app comes along with the same name and triggers the "special treatment" but can't handle it. Ka-Boom.
This also brings up the possibility of really screwing with these drivers. Go get another game program (QUAKE.EXE or whatever) and rename it to the name of the benchmark. What does the driver do to it?
You would think the easiest way to eliminate this type of cheating is to make it a standard practice to RENAME THE PROGRAM before running any type of benchmark, game, utility, application or whatever. Once you do that, you are running just like any other applicaton, and you see what the drivers really do.
Testing sites should make it standard practice to rename the EXE to some random name before ANY testing is done, and declare such up front on every test just so the manufacturers know it.
It won't prevent all cheating. Manufacturers will find other ways to identify to source app (data profiling, other EXE file signatures) but those are harder to do, take more time to write, and to execute.
Up the anti and see who plays fair and who cheats harder.
But gravity is not the only force involved. The shuttle was moving up at 1000 miles an hour.... through the air and the wind.
When the foam broke away, it immediately became subject to wind resistance, and slowed down due to wind. A 2 pound piece of foam in 1000 mile an hour wind can change velocity quite a lot in 200 feet. It was able to slow down (relative to the ground/wind) by 500 miles an hour due strictly to wind resistance.
I can just see Balmer banging on his desk yelling "We have to make them believe what we say, not watch what we do. Say it Louder! Louder! Louder! Louder!..."
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But VIOP is more like a router with a subnet. They have a whole set of telephone numbers behind there. They don't have one line for each number they manage. So in theory, they could be taxed by number rather than by line. That makes a big difference.
The difference really is that they represent a pool of numbers rather than a simple set of lines. It is a similar interface to how cellular networks tie into land based networks. They interface with a switch that allows all of those numbers to be switched by address rather than by line. Its a lot different interface than a PBX.
AOL Talk, MS Netmeeting, heck even Battlecom allow you to carry voice over IP. But the difference is you can't dial up you phone number from Battlecom and make your phone ring.
The VOIP in these cases are companies that tie into real telephone networks. They issue real telephone numbers to their customers. You can use a normal telephone to reach them. That means they are regulatable by the same standards as normal telephone. The regulators own the address space, not just the service standards.
The easiest way to avoid this regulation and fees is not to tie into the telephone network, don't use the same 7/10 digit address space and don't claim you can call normal telephones. You do that and there's no fees and no regulation.
Yes, but it the couch detects your weight going up, will it order you a salad instead?
Microsoft couldn't understand that people would abandon their "high quality" but expensive software for that cheap home grown linux stuff. It just didn't make since. TCO and compatibility was the arguement of the day. For some reason that arguement didn't work for them.
Now the table is turned. Techies are arguing that abandoning good old US (or other expensive techies in developed countries) for cheap labor in India or wherever wont work. we say they lack the knowledge and experience. But after a while, India will develop, mature, and have the real experience to handle most of the complex tasks involved.
Business is business, and what comes around goes around. We should learn from what is happening rather than go into denial.
(For the record, the company I work for just had a 30% purge and is planning a major offshore push. Yes, I'm deeply affected.)
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That is causing the following horizintal rule and "buy it here" line to expand the page. How rude.
I've been poking around the Register.com site and can't find anything about the settlement or the opt out. Has anyone else found it yet?
They'll get the name of the DDOSers when SCO turns over their Executives to the proper authorities for fraud investigation. Then we will see some justice done.
... and yet, That is basically what SCO is trying to do to Linux. They are trying to execute a legal DOS against Open Source (and by legal, I mean "using legal tools", not that what they are doing is itself legal) That has to be one of their better super-hypocritical statements of the month (not that they don't have plenty of those either)
Well, mostly. But that is not what the real fight is about. You can use any number of internet voice communication tools to transmit voice communication across the internet. (BattleCom, AIM Talk, ...). It's not just "voice" that is at issue.
These VOIP carriers do more than just carry data. They also interface with the currenty telephone system. AIM has an address range of all AOL member names and AIM names. The person on the other end has to be on AOL/AIM.
On the other hand, the telephone system has 7 digit or 10 digit addresses that cover almost every house/office/location in the country. It is a much larger address space and includes many more people. VOIP companies cross networks. They take calls from Computers, cross network into the telephone system and allow you to call someone using the other technology. Once you do that, you automatically fall under that jurisdiction and regulation. Most of the problem is about where and how that crossover occures. Data carriers want to crossover in the place that will cost them the least. Local Telephone providers want that crossover to occure in the place that gives them more revenue. Hence the conflict.
If the voice call stays entirely in internet address space, then there is not a problem. No crossover, no fee, no tax, no problem.
But it seems that the need is for reliable communication channels, and that need can be fulfilled as much by reliable internet technology as it can by reliable copper wire technology. I would be inclined to shift those elements of regulation (availibility, reliability) to data carriers, rather than try to reclassify certain types of data as copper wire technology for the sake of regulation.
The country needs that reliability. But it does not necessarily need it in its current form.
Red Hat doesn't have to win. Heck, they don't even have to fight for very long. The most important thing that will happen is that SCO will be forced to place all of their evidence in the public record. No more of the "we have evidence but will not show anyone" crap. Once the evidence is in public record, Red Hat can do almost anything, settle, bail, license or persuit. But once it IS in public record, you can bet that it will be corrected in the source code in every way necessary. Then SCO won't have a case any more, no matter what happens to Red Hat.
I can't speak for G5 or IA64, but they probably have similar limitations, either specific implementation or general design.
The blurb is wrong. In the auction item, it states that the helmet was made for the second season, but was not used. It does not say anything about the second season not being filmed.
Right now, everyone and their dog is spouting off about what will or will not happen. So a lot of general information, facts and basic analysis is flowing fairly freely. A lot of otherwise good analyst who do not happen to have personal access to basic facts/history/information can get it by searching or reading forums. When analysis becomes valuable enough to merit money, then that "free" information will dry up. Noone will want to give other people any advantage. The end result is a decrease in the flow if general information.
This same problem was described before when the idea of Bounties for Spammers was introduced. It was suggested that Anti-spammer info would suddenly dry up because anti-spamers would hoard it in search of their own prize rather than share.
I ran across this last year when I wanted to make a jacket that had all sorts of Open Source project logos on it. I went to a sports shop that did custom embroidery to get info. They said they could take a bitmap image and convert it to an appropriate file format "for just a few hundred dollars", then duplicate it to as many shirts/jackets/hats as I wanted for a few bucks each. So apparently the file is everything and the duplication is negligible.
So two points here:
1. How much is that embroidery file worth when creating it is hundreds of dollars and printing is almost free?
2. Where can I get embroidery files for all sorts of Open Source project logos (Like Tux, *BSD Deamon, GNU Gnu, Apache feather, PostgreSQL elephant, KDE Gears, Gnome paw print...)?
And I would presume appropriate trademark/copyright protection would apply to such logos in the same sort of way as patent/copyright would apply to other manufacturing file formats.
Yeah, Berman and Bragga together are the touch of death. How many shows have you seen where nothing actually happens that weren't wrtten by Bragga? Who the hell are these guys sucking off to keep their jobs?
The best thing Viacom could do to revive the franchise is get rid of Berman and Bragga! There have to be plenty of good idea people around the Star Trek universe who can bring in and produce more fresh ideas. You have the Star Trek book lines, plenty of fan fiction, Game writers, alternate universes (Galaxy Quest, ...). Bring in some fresh talent and submit Berman and Bragga to the Pit of Dispare.
Hormel does not care if they use the word "SPAM".(or at one point did not care. They may have changed their minds.) The problem is that a lot of sites/groups (Slashdot included) use a picture of the Hormel Spam Can as a symbol of the email spam. That's what they are mad about. That is very much Hormel's property and is definitely not something that can be confused with email.
(This couresy of NRP this morning. The article seems a bit thin on the subject. YMMV)
Any more insite on that, or is it complete wash?
With a motto like that, you're going in the right direction. Applying the descriptions "obsolete" and "useless" to something with the initials GWB is likely to stir up some trouble.
The story is about natives on the planet, but the physics alone is worth the read. It's quite a strange place.
Actually, that is very interesting. Any bets you've stunbled onto an entirely different cheat?
Let's say Microsoft wanted Outlook to have some special capabilities in the operating system. So the OS recognizes it and gives it special treatment. Another app comes along with the same name and triggers the "special treatment" but can't handle it. Ka-Boom.
This also brings up the possibility of really screwing with these drivers. Go get another game program (QUAKE.EXE or whatever) and rename it to the name of the benchmark. What does the driver do to it?
Testing sites should make it standard practice to rename the EXE to some random name before ANY testing is done, and declare such up front on every test just so the manufacturers know it.
It won't prevent all cheating. Manufacturers will find other ways to identify to source app (data profiling, other EXE file signatures) but those are harder to do, take more time to write, and to execute.
Up the anti and see who plays fair and who cheats harder.
But gravity is not the only force involved. The shuttle was moving up at 1000 miles an hour.... through the air and the wind. When the foam broke away, it immediately became subject to wind resistance, and slowed down due to wind. A 2 pound piece of foam in 1000 mile an hour wind can change velocity quite a lot in 200 feet. It was able to slow down (relative to the ground/wind) by 500 miles an hour due strictly to wind resistance.
The math is left as an excercise for the viewer.
I can just see Balmer banging on his desk yelling "We have to make them believe what we say, not watch what we do. Say it Louder! Louder! Louder! Louder! ..."
It sounds more like they've been knifed.
Maybe they'll get lucky and get spooned too.