Why would having two organizations instead of one commiting their business idea to open source Java enterprise development be a bad thing for the community?
It's not a bad thing for the community. But business competition rarely is. Better still, it sounds like the code base will remain intact (rather than split). The difficulty for JBoss Group is that the JBoss Group made their money by selling documentation on the JBoss product, and selling services such as training and support. You have to make money somehow.
What this split does is make another company that is also selling documentation, training and support. And this company has better connections with related projects (jetty, jakarta) and more specialization in the internals of JBoss itself. Now the same number of potential customers are split between two different companies. If JBoss Group is lucky, they will loose less than half of their customer base. If they are not, they could loose enough customer base and sponsership to force them out of business.
Of course, as with any open source project, the software will survive. But it will most likely be primarily developed and supported by Core Developers.
So, is this going to turn into another MySQL/NuSphere spat?
Where in the Constitution is your right to privacy codified, and what are the precise words?
That would be the tenth ammendment in the Bill of Rights. It states that all rights not explicitly granted to the Federal Government are denied to the federal government and granted to the states or the people.
So I guess the question now is "Where exactly in the constitution does it say that people do NOT have the right to privacy."
One thing I hate about many Constitutional arguements is that the authors of the Constitution specifically wanted to limit federal power, and added such elements as the tenth ammendment. This ammendment states that unless a right is explicitly granted to the Federal Government, then it is implicitly denied to the Federal Government, and in effect falls to the States or to the people. But so many power mongers and freedom killers try to turn around the arguement and say that unless a right is specifically granted to the people by the constitution, then it is not a right of the people and the government can take it away (effictively ignoring the tenth ammendment). We don't need people making up more irrational reasons to limits peoples "Life, liberty and persuit of happiness"... unless your "persuit of happiness" requires that you invade someone elses "life and liberty".
ganging up against Microsoft simply because they're American (or perhaps they just act "American"...)
Never attribute to idealism what can be addiquately explained by greed.
People are ganging up on Microsoft, American people as well as other nationalities, because Microsoft is wielding a great deal of power to control markets and extract money (i.e. They are a bunch of greedy bastards). It wouldn't matter if they were europian or not. If there was a europian comapany that acted the same way, they would be villified as well.
As far as they're being "American", It's more like "America" is viewed as Microsoftish, in that there is a high concentration of "greedy bastard" companies in America that are trying to wield similar power and control around the world (RIAA, MPAA, Pharmicuticals,...). Many people in many countries resent these companies, and by association the country from which they come.
When you hear someone complain about "America" doing something, take a deep breath, listen to exactly what they are talking about, and recognise that there is usually a specific entity within America, a company or group or agency, that is doing the dirty work. It is just the person complaining that is making the grander association. Don't get dragged into it too far.
So many of the drivers are special casing the test based on the executable name. It would seem that all you have to do is rename the EXE to test the true nature of the driver.
It would be easy enough for ALL of the testing labs to simply rename the benchmark and game application EXE to something random before starting the tests as a matter of course. If they state this fact up front for all to see, it would make special casing like this extinct overnight.
It wouldn't prevent cheating. Data profiling could probably be used also. But it would encourage the driver developers to concentrate on real improvements (just in case they can't identify the test app) rather than concentrate on fooling the test.
I think we need a new (or additional) definition for being "Slashdotted". It goes like this:
When someone on the Slashdot web site copies the entire contents of another sites article into the Slashdot website, violating all kinds of copyright laws along the way.
Now publishers and journalist have a new word for what happens to their IP as well as their web sites.
From her picture on IMDB, Maggie could be a stand in/replacement for Kirsten in the movie. Of course with both Jake and Maggie in there it would put a whole new twist on the kissing scenes.
I used to ride that subway. The city library is right next to Tandy Towers. I'd park out in the extended lots and ride the Tandy subway into the library.
Hate to see it go, but Fort Worth has grown up a lot in the last fifteen years. I guess they have better arrangements now. Anyone been there recently?
Also, if you read the article, you would have noticed that the song in question was not "sampled" in the since that a piece of the original recording was played back directly in the new song. Dr. Dre hired a musician to play a baseline that was similar to the original song.
Dre testified that before hiring a musician to play a bassline from the Fatback Band's 1980 song "Backstrokin'" for his 2001 track "Let's Get High," he consulted a musicologist who said the riff was commonplace.
The jury agreed, calling the rapper's actions innocent infringement, but fined him anyway.
There should be a clear distinction of the definition of sampling as in taking a direct segment of the original recording, vs. reproducing a particular phrase or melody with new musician/instrument/recording.
The question I have is this: Does London-based Minder Music Ltd. own the copyright of the recording that was "sampled" or the score, the music on paper? Typically the publisher takes the recording, but the artist owns the score. So are they claiming ownership of the score used by Dr. Dre because of their copyright of the recording?
Microsoft owns part of the copyright on the OS/2 codebase. They did everyting they could to suppress it, but IBM still had enough rights to keep it going. MS will never allow it to go open source, and they do have enough control over the code to prevent that.
Whether the image is solid, wireframe or just points, you will be able to see through it. The way you solve this in 3D projection to 2D surface is to use hidden surface removel methods to not draw the obscured surfaces, Z-buffer being the most common for 3D accelerated cards on PCs.
In true 3D like this, you do not necessarily know what direction the user is viewing from, so you do not know which surfaces should be obscured. When it draws the backside, you WILL be able to see it through the front side. There is nothing solid about the front side, it's just a light hanging in space.
If the viewing direction IS known in advance (as in a prepared movie) then you could use hidden surface removel methods to alter the displayed image and remove the backside, but just from that one angle. But in general, the spherical nature of this display makes no rules about the viewing angle.
I inherited an old Alpha 3000 Turbochannel box a while back. Linux refused to boot. Most of the forums on the topic said "Won't happen. Go get NetBSD". So I got it and installed it and I gotta say I like it. It's easy and very capable. It's a great server platform.
I read a Sci-Fi story a few decades ago (don't remember the name) along those lines.
A more advanced race was visiting a planet with a primitive culture, slightly pre-industrial age. They had rules of involvement based on the advancement of the culture they were contacting. One of the thresholds of the involvement levels was space travel capability.
So the locals tossed a man into what was the equivelant of a diving bell, set it on a powder keg and blew it into space. They then went to the representative of the more advanced race and said:
"We have space travel capabilities now. You can deal with us as spacefarers. Oh and by the way, could you please rescue our astronaut before he burns up on reentry?"
I hope these guys have a return plan. I don't think they're gonna get rescued.
I use Oracle all the time, and would switch to PostgreSQL before I'd go to MS SQL. But every once and a while Mr. Ellison needs a real good kick in the teeth. He's just got too much mouth for his own good.
So "bullying the world" is not a sufficient explanation
So, if a bully bullies twelve people, right up until one of them resists and fights back, then you assume that the other eleven were not bothered by being bullied? It's more like the rest balanced their options and decided that resisting the bully was more dangerous than accepting quietly. The one who did fight back had less to loose. That's your difference between the Middle East and the rest of the world. They have been bullied the longest by the most countries, and they are the poorest in terms of international power and influence, so they have the least to lose by resisting.
US has done far less with its superpower status than any predecessor
"Yeah, we used to have some bad bullies around here, but now there's just this one. And he's not as bad as the others were. We almost have all the bullies cleaned up. But heck, why not just let this one keep going rather than make the last effort and finish cleaning them all up."
I for one would love to see the corrupt, selfish, abusive elements in US government and business put up against the wall. There are plenty of good things in the USA. But we shouldn't use them to justify the bad things. We should keep supporting the good activiities, but always stay aware of the bad elements.
The worst mistake is to try to whitewash bad behavior be claiming that the good elements of the country justify it. Ther is NO justification for bad actions, but you must be able to specifically identify the bad actions, separate them from the good actions, and then eleminiate them without effecting the good actions.
Trying to defend the abuses of America by lumping EVERYTHING together and then pointing out the good elements in the mix is an excersise in self delusion.
Because it is a system which we plan to re-sell to clients. We are an application sofware company.
Some customers don't mind spending $100K on databases and application server software. So bring on the Oracle and BEA servers.
Other customers will likely want postgreSQL and JBoss, to knock the pricetag down a few dozen K.
Unlike Oracle, we don't want to loose the low end of the market to undercutters.
The company I work for is in the middle of porting some aging applications to modern architecture. Their old apps are mostly Oracle middleware and Oracle heavy database functionality.
The new architecture is J2EE web services. One of the goals is to make the new apps database neutral, which means nothing but the simplest SQL and DML. All the heavy work is in Java.
This is a common trend, being driven heavily by web services and J2ee, both technologies being touted by Oracle themselves.... all except the database neutral part. But when you're dealing with J2EE, there is little advantage in designing you app around a single DB vendor. It is so easy to make it neutral.
So depending on the size of the implementation, Postgres or even MySQL could prove to be a viable platform. It certainly isn't appropriate for all implemetations, but it is a choice. That was the point of the post wasn't it? Small needs can easily be put on small databases? Now it can.
Bush has personally not made any attempts to sieze power for himself
hunh? What planet?
First, congress posses the sole right to declare war... Up until Bush demanded thay give HIM the right to declare war, and they did.
The Patriot Act is also a fine example of how powers traditionally granted to the Judicial Branch have been taken into the Executive branch. Investigators of "terrorist activities" are not required to gain search warrents. They can hold people indefinitely without access to lawyers or hearings. This is only a small example of how the Patriot act consolidates power in the Executive branch.
Congress has the power of oversite into any action in the executive branch, but various departments in the executive branch have continually refused to give information to Congress when requested (Cheney on Power, Ashcroft on his held "suspects").
So, these are cases of how power has been moved from other branches of government to the Executive branch, or responsable action denied. But your claim was "sieze power for himself", not "sieze power for his office", so you probably won't count any of this.
We've seen how his elections tend to go (Brother, Florida, Supreme Court,...). Hopefully we get a shot at another election that at least manages to look clean on the outside.
You may be correct in stating that Bush has not rallied the populace by promising expansion of American territory, but that wasn't the point. Who's misquoting now.
The Goering quote was: All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the counrtry to danger.
Bush has very much performed actions like this. German leaders (Hitler) yelled long and loud about how much Poland was a threat to the German nation, even though Germany had much greater military and industrial power than Poland. It would have been suicide for Poland to take any action against Germany. Germany eventually used these claims as an excuse to invade Poland.
Bush is yelling long and loud about how much of a threat Iraq is a threat even though the US has much greater military and industrial power than Iraq. It would have been suicide for Iraq to take any action against the US. The US eventually used these claims as an excuse to invade Iraq.
Now, here's where I'm expecting plenty of people to jump in and say stuff like "But Hitler was lying about poland." and "But Iraq is a REAL threat." So when you do, fill it in with:
1. Exactly what dammage could Iraq do to the US if they really tried (before the war. real weapons, not made up stuff).
2. Exactly what would happen to them if they did?
3. Would it be worth it? (Claims of insanity will not be accepted. Saddam may be truely evil, but he's not crazy. You don't get to be absolute leader for twenty years by having anything short of a solid grasp of political and military threat and consequences. Invading Kuwait? He actually received US permission for that.)
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It's not a bad thing for the community. But business competition rarely is. Better still, it sounds like the code base will remain intact (rather than split). The difficulty for JBoss Group is that the JBoss Group made their money by selling documentation on the JBoss product, and selling services such as training and support. You have to make money somehow.
What this split does is make another company that is also selling documentation, training and support. And this company has better connections with related projects (jetty, jakarta) and more specialization in the internals of JBoss itself. Now the same number of potential customers are split between two different companies. If JBoss Group is lucky, they will loose less than half of their customer base. If they are not, they could loose enough customer base and sponsership to force them out of business.
Of course, as with any open source project, the software will survive. But it will most likely be primarily developed and supported by Core Developers.
So, is this going to turn into another MySQL/NuSphere spat?
It's a reference to Script Kiddies. I've never heard of Script Hippies, but that doesn't mean they don't exist.
That seems a bit more appropriate to the story, doesn't it.
That would be the tenth ammendment in the Bill of Rights. It states that all rights not explicitly granted to the Federal Government are denied to the federal government and granted to the states or the people.
So I guess the question now is "Where exactly in the constitution does it say that people do NOT have the right to privacy."
One thing I hate about many Constitutional arguements is that the authors of the Constitution specifically wanted to limit federal power, and added such elements as the tenth ammendment. This ammendment states that unless a right is explicitly granted to the Federal Government, then it is implicitly denied to the Federal Government, and in effect falls to the States or to the people. But so many power mongers and freedom killers try to turn around the arguement and say that unless a right is specifically granted to the people by the constitution, then it is not a right of the people and the government can take it away (effictively ignoring the tenth ammendment). We don't need people making up more irrational reasons to limits peoples "Life, liberty and persuit of happiness" ... unless your "persuit of happiness" requires that you invade someone elses "life and liberty".
Never attribute to idealism what can be addiquately explained by greed.
People are ganging up on Microsoft, American people as well as other nationalities, because Microsoft is wielding a great deal of power to control markets and extract money (i.e. They are a bunch of greedy bastards). It wouldn't matter if they were europian or not. If there was a europian comapany that acted the same way, they would be villified as well.
As far as they're being "American", It's more like "America" is viewed as Microsoftish, in that there is a high concentration of "greedy bastard" companies in America that are trying to wield similar power and control around the world (RIAA, MPAA, Pharmicuticals, ...). Many people in many countries resent these companies, and by association the country from which they come.
When you hear someone complain about "America" doing something, take a deep breath, listen to exactly what they are talking about, and recognise that there is usually a specific entity within America, a company or group or agency, that is doing the dirty work. It is just the person complaining that is making the grander association. Don't get dragged into it too far.
by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 29, @10:06AM (#6067180)
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Defending America abroad "the American Way", speaking from anonymity, calling for oppression.
It would be easy enough for ALL of the testing labs to simply rename the benchmark and game application EXE to something random before starting the tests as a matter of course. If they state this fact up front for all to see, it would make special casing like this extinct overnight.
It wouldn't prevent cheating. Data profiling could probably be used also. But it would encourage the driver developers to concentrate on real improvements (just in case they can't identify the test app) rather than concentrate on fooling the test.
All with names such as "I.P. Freely" and
Don't you dare, or I'll prosecute for identity theft and falsifying return address.
Now publishers and journalist have a new word for what happens to their IP as well as their web sites.
From her picture on IMDB, Maggie could be a stand in/replacement for Kirsten in the movie. Of course with both Jake and Maggie in there it would put a whole new twist on the kissing scenes.
I used to ride that subway. The city library is right next to Tandy Towers. I'd park out in the extended lots and ride the Tandy subway into the library.
Hate to see it go, but Fort Worth has grown up a lot in the last fifteen years. I guess they have better arrangements now. Anyone been there recently?
There should be a clear distinction of the definition of sampling as in taking a direct segment of the original recording, vs. reproducing a particular phrase or melody with new musician/instrument/recording.
The question I have is this: Does London-based Minder Music Ltd. own the copyright of the recording that was "sampled" or the score, the music on paper? Typically the publisher takes the recording, but the artist owns the score. So are they claiming ownership of the score used by Dr. Dre because of their copyright of the recording?
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Microsoft owns part of the copyright on the OS/2 codebase. They did everyting they could to suppress it, but IBM still had enough rights to keep it going. MS will never allow it to go open source, and they do have enough control over the code to prevent that.
Whether the image is solid, wireframe or just points, you will be able to see through it. The way you solve this in 3D projection to 2D surface is to use hidden surface removel methods to not draw the obscured surfaces, Z-buffer being the most common for 3D accelerated cards on PCs.
In true 3D like this, you do not necessarily know what direction the user is viewing from, so you do not know which surfaces should be obscured. When it draws the backside, you WILL be able to see it through the front side. There is nothing solid about the front side, it's just a light hanging in space.
If the viewing direction IS known in advance (as in a prepared movie) then you could use hidden surface removel methods to alter the displayed image and remove the backside, but just from that one angle. But in general, the spherical nature of this display makes no rules about the viewing angle.
I inherited an old Alpha 3000 Turbochannel box a while back. Linux refused to boot. Most of the forums on the topic said "Won't happen. Go get NetBSD". So I got it and installed it and I gotta say I like it. It's easy and very capable. It's a great server platform.
I liked H. G. Well's First Men In The Moon better. Anti-Gravity, Calvorite (sp?), moon ants.
Yep, That sounds familiar.
A more advanced race was visiting a planet with a primitive culture, slightly pre-industrial age. They had rules of involvement based on the advancement of the culture they were contacting. One of the thresholds of the involvement levels was space travel capability.
So the locals tossed a man into what was the equivelant of a diving bell, set it on a powder keg and blew it into space. They then went to the representative of the more advanced race and said:
"We have space travel capabilities now. You can deal with us as spacefarers. Oh and by the way, could you please rescue our astronaut before he burns up on reentry?"
I hope these guys have a return plan. I don't think they're gonna get rescued.
I use Oracle all the time, and would switch to PostgreSQL before I'd go to MS SQL. But every once and a while Mr. Ellison needs a real good kick in the teeth. He's just got too much mouth for his own good.
So, if a bully bullies twelve people, right up until one of them resists and fights back, then you assume that the other eleven were not bothered by being bullied? It's more like the rest balanced their options and decided that resisting the bully was more dangerous than accepting quietly. The one who did fight back had less to loose. That's your difference between the Middle East and the rest of the world. They have been bullied the longest by the most countries, and they are the poorest in terms of international power and influence, so they have the least to lose by resisting.
US has done far less with its superpower status than any predecessor
"Yeah, we used to have some bad bullies around here, but now there's just this one. And he's not as bad as the others were. We almost have all the bullies cleaned up. But heck, why not just let this one keep going rather than make the last effort and finish cleaning them all up."
I for one would love to see the corrupt, selfish, abusive elements in US government and business put up against the wall. There are plenty of good things in the USA. But we shouldn't use them to justify the bad things. We should keep supporting the good activiities, but always stay aware of the bad elements.
The worst mistake is to try to whitewash bad behavior be claiming that the good elements of the country justify it. Ther is NO justification for bad actions, but you must be able to specifically identify the bad actions, separate them from the good actions, and then eleminiate them without effecting the good actions.
Trying to defend the abuses of America by lumping EVERYTHING together and then pointing out the good elements in the mix is an excersise in self delusion.
Some customers don't mind spending $100K on databases and application server software. So bring on the Oracle and BEA servers.
Other customers will likely want postgreSQL and JBoss, to knock the pricetag down a few dozen K.
Unlike Oracle, we don't want to loose the low end of the market to undercutters.
The new architecture is J2EE web services. One of the goals is to make the new apps database neutral, which means nothing but the simplest SQL and DML. All the heavy work is in Java.
This is a common trend, being driven heavily by web services and J2ee, both technologies being touted by Oracle themselves.... all except the database neutral part. But when you're dealing with J2EE, there is little advantage in designing you app around a single DB vendor. It is so easy to make it neutral.
So depending on the size of the implementation, Postgres or even MySQL could prove to be a viable platform. It certainly isn't appropriate for all implemetations, but it is a choice. That was the point of the post wasn't it? Small needs can easily be put on small databases? Now it can.
It's an Isreali tank in the West Bank.
hunh? What planet?
First, congress posses the sole right to declare war... Up until Bush demanded thay give HIM the right to declare war, and they did.
The Patriot Act is also a fine example of how powers traditionally granted to the Judicial Branch have been taken into the Executive branch. Investigators of "terrorist activities" are not required to gain search warrents. They can hold people indefinitely without access to lawyers or hearings. This is only a small example of how the Patriot act consolidates power in the Executive branch.
Congress has the power of oversite into any action in the executive branch, but various departments in the executive branch have continually refused to give information to Congress when requested (Cheney on Power, Ashcroft on his held "suspects").
So, these are cases of how power has been moved from other branches of government to the Executive branch, or responsable action denied. But your claim was "sieze power for himself", not "sieze power for his office", so you probably won't count any of this.
We've seen how his elections tend to go (Brother, Florida, Supreme Court, ...). Hopefully we get a shot at another election that at least manages to look clean on the outside.
The Goering quote was: All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the counrtry to danger.
Bush has very much performed actions like this. German leaders (Hitler) yelled long and loud about how much Poland was a threat to the German nation, even though Germany had much greater military and industrial power than Poland. It would have been suicide for Poland to take any action against Germany. Germany eventually used these claims as an excuse to invade Poland.
Bush is yelling long and loud about how much of a threat Iraq is a threat even though the US has much greater military and industrial power than Iraq. It would have been suicide for Iraq to take any action against the US. The US eventually used these claims as an excuse to invade Iraq.
Now, here's where I'm expecting plenty of people to jump in and say stuff like "But Hitler was lying about poland." and "But Iraq is a REAL threat." So when you do, fill it in with:
1. Exactly what dammage could Iraq do to the US if they really tried (before the war. real weapons, not made up stuff).
2. Exactly what would happen to them if they did?
3. Would it be worth it? (Claims of insanity will not be accepted. Saddam may be truely evil, but he's not crazy. You don't get to be absolute leader for twenty years by having anything short of a solid grasp of political and military threat and consequences. Invading Kuwait? He actually received US permission for that.)