To the kids out there. This is a great time to be alive. You can build anything, learn anything, and talk to anyone. Do cool stuff. Learn everything. There are no limits and powerful hardware is cheap. Look around at how lucky you are to be alive right now. It is an amazing time!
Don't lie to the kids. There are limits. But it doesn't make the gist of your sentiment less worth noting. There is indeed a vast space of interesting things to do within those limits. The basic limit, beyond the less talked about ones, is that you need to somehow provide for yourself and get along in society. However aside from that, with your spare time, a raspberry pi and and a cheap hdtv and keyboard, you can do some pretty amazing things. Add a few things purchased relatively inexpensively from adafruit and amazon, and you can really do some pretty amazing things. It may be a ton of work, you may not cash in on it, but it doesn't take tens of thousands of dollars and a CS degree from a place with expensive big buildings. What was locked away from the masses of past generations in expensive ivory towers can now be burned on a dvd super cheap.
Trump is unfortunate. Keep your head down kids, the shit is going to get thick here for a few years.
I'd call it common sense to keep better tabs on visitors/new immigrants from such regions,
Your comment clearly willfully neglects the issues surrounding religious persecution and rivalry that is at the heart of this. I'd accuse you of being naive, but I doubt that is accurate.
Bush and Clinton tried to build one before, part of it eventually was used to become what we now know as the no-fly list. Obama had the chance to get rid of it and didn't. But I guess it's okay if the establishment does it.
Also, it's ridiculous to expect authorities to track down half a million victims and help them clean up their computers.
How about for a start posting a list of IP addresses, or possibly more nuanced evidential trace information, to a global database that anyone can check if they like? The early adopter power users might load the simple app that facilitates ensuring that they can at least pull such minimal notification if they are interested. That doesn't sound infeasible to me, though I invite comments explaining what is wrong with my theoretical reasonable solution.
Until I hear a much better story about why the authorities can get away with knowing computers are compromised with unauthorized accessors, while not notifying the owners so that they can remedy the situation including optionally exercising their right to prosecute the offender... Well, I'll assume something slightly less than fully above board policy is going on.
It seems to me that if the efforts were made to get the hacked victims notified, more effective and appropriate market pressures would travel upstream to the relevant insufficiently supported device manufacturers.
List of sovereign states: "193 member states, two observer states, and 11 other states." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
180 is covered AC. It just shows the reach of the "International Authorities" AC. If they can cooperate on this, how is any VPN secure in most nations?
The same way a VPN is secure generally? What you mean perhaps is- How is any VPN guaranteed to be reliable across national borders utilizing publicly available commercial infrastructure network interconnections even against a cooperating international community opposed to it? And the answer is that no such guarantee was ever implied or presumed by anyone who gave it much thought.
Thanks. I wasn't very aware of that history, nor the wikipedia snippet I'll post below when I made the comment, but I feel somewhat vindicated even though someone downmodded my already karmatically unenhanced comment. Jerk.
CyanogenMod grew in popularity, and a community of developers, called the CyanogenMod Team (and informally "Team Douche"[17])
So yes, I'll double down on my original comment that naming your product after a poison, or your development team after a term with sexist and/or derogatory connotations, might have clearly displayed an intent to repel a majority of potential users instead of attract them. What a disservice those branding choices did for the wider public's general ability to obtain viable alternatives to the open source android mobile phone OS.
And can we please get a name that doesn't sound like a well known poison associated with spies? Going with refined sugar based confections for branding does seem like a smarter tactic, sigh...
you're the one guilty of distortion, and really, simply trolling.
Bullshit. What part of "Trump is horrible. No doubt about that." did you not factor into your understanding of my position?
I'll reiterate and further clarify two points I was trying to make-
1) The Khan family may have been defamed, however if so it was subsequent to a very(*highest level*) overt provocation. As it happens, I agree with most of how you chose to portray the issue. If the Khan family had succeeded in preventing Trump from being the president-elect, and believed that their behavior had helped achieve that, I'd f'n love them for it. And think Trump got what he deserved. Unfortunately, we live in a different universe.
2) The media narrative on Trump seems IMO to have not included as much as I think is deserved, my other point that
But the way he wins is to be provocative and get poorly thought out overinflammatory responses from his political opponents to his provocations.
In other words "provocation and trolling- Trump gets it.". I think this is something everyone on the planet needs to get a generally better understanding of ASAP. I am very, very worried about the transition and coming years. I don't like what I think I see as far as the popular narratives of Trump misunderstanding what kind of player he is. Being misunderstood I think is how he has accumulated so much dangerous power.
The documents identified several technology companies as participants in the PRISM program, including Microsoft in 2007, Yahoo! in 2008, Google in 2009, Facebook in 2009, Paltalk in 2009, YouTube in 2010, AOL in 2011, Skype in 2011 and Apple in 2012.[23]
I think it would be very hard to believe that marijuana was good for you. You generally burn it and inhale it - that usually isn't a part of healthy living.
With that said, alcohol is your gold standard. It causes cancer, liver disease, thousands of deaths in the form of auto accidents. It's implicated in mental health disorders and causes plenty of other social ills.
I hope for your sake that was a troll. Alcohol is great as a disinfectant. In moderation for many people it is a great stress reliever and social lubricant. Hammers are great at building houses. Just because hammers can also be accidentally dropped on a foot or used as a murder weapon doesn't mean... I'm sure you catch my drift.
FYI- if you've ever experimented with burning either tobacco or cannabis, you really ought to try a modern vape. Just as alcohol's benefit to the field of medicine has been enhanced by synergistic advances, so too have the benefits of cannabis with the modern synergistic advances in paraphrenalia.
+1, keep up the good work using your brain regardless of how much bloodflow was required. Part of the pattern here is "non-normality implies negative results". Just because something is different doesn't necessarily mean it is bad. Especially when, as @limaxray pointed out- you can verify the false theory by simply looking outside and realizing the sky isn't in the process of falling (except when it literally is, not that that matters)
Sort of. When they're doing it all cloak and dagger, they have two fairly strong restrictions:
1) A slap on the wrist if anyone finds out.
2) Inadmissible in court.
When they're doing it in public, they only have the one restriction: That a judge sign off on it.
1) you seem to have some contradiction there between "fairly strong restriction" and "slap on the wrist if anyone finds out"
2) They invented "parallel construction" some time ago.
Countries like Russia, China, etc.. hell even friendly countries like Canada or the UK.. should be super annoyed with this though as the FBI is effectively claiming jurisdiction over their most-definitely-not-American computer systems (and the citizens operating them.)
I go back to my original point- They were going to do the hacking anyway. They have been doing the hacking anyway. The right answer for foreign governments and populations is the same right answer as for domestic citizens like myself- Don't leave my doors unlocked, my windows open, or my telecommunicated data unencrypted, or the devices i purchased and 'own' in a state where they can be hacked and used in ways I would not consent to.
So as you already indicated, they were all criminals because they were doing these things anyway, so now it's okay to just make it legal to do them?
Its illegal to tar and feather public officials, so should we do it anyway, and then see if we can get them to vote to make it legal?
That was almost coherent. My point, if indeed you are truly struggling to understand it, is that in the big picture, it matters less what the law is, and more how most people understand what is going on regardless of the legality. I think this issue is one of a set of issues that are very important to how human society is going to function for the next hundred years. If this potential-law had been stopped, *for the right reasons*, then sure, that would have been the better outcome. If it had been stopped *for the wrong reasons* (i.e. absent a better public understanding of what the real long term worst dangers are), then it may well have led to a worse outcome than the present situation.
Also, you appear to be what I would classify as a "criminal status fetishist". Have you ever exceeded the posted speed limit? If you can grok, please try to work more nuance into your sentiment in the future.
or defamed a military family whose son died defending this country,
I won't bother finding the youtube link for you, but go watch the Kahn family on the DNC nomination stage. You are just as guilty of Trumpesque distortion when you imply that Trump's behavior was not partially justified as defensive political reaction. If the Kahn family didn't *want* to provoke a very public response from a presidential candidate, they could have chosen a much less gauntlet-level initiation of their free speech. Trump is horrible. No doubt about that. But the way he wins is to be provocative and get poorly thought out overinflammatory responses from his political opponents to his provocations. What you did there was playing right into his game.
I consider twitter and reddit and *cough* usenet *cough* and *cough* the entire rest of the internet *cough* to be more significant competitors to facebook than the competitors to microsquish were back in the netscape navigator days.
Back in the day, without microsquish, ordinary folk couldn't reasonably *use a computer*. Apples and Oranges. Thank God for the relative - if not total world dominating - success FOSS has enjoyed since then.
This 'story' reads like an accidentally posted journal entry.
Like TV, social media now increasingly entertains us, and even more so than television it amplifies our existing beliefs and habits. It makes us feel more than think, and it comforts more than challenges
This second sentence is absurd, because it is functionally equal if you remove all words from the first sentence except 'TV'.
There's plenty Trump is actually doing that will have drastic consequences over the next few decades to be concerned about. Lets not start worrying about a power he hasn't abused yet, has made no comments that show he will abuse it, and if abused would be more an annoyance than a crisis. Priorities people.
Part of good priority utilization is in taking care of low hanging fruit when optimal. Hashtag (mobile phone) root matters (more than the general reaction of the public in recent history has suggested).
If this story directed at this audience could better achieve the critical mass of getting the vast minority of mobile phone users having root, versus the vast minority, then I would consider that something of a possibly forgivable quasi-Trumpian troll.
On the one hand this of course sounds bad for all the obvious reasons slashdot has focused on over the many many years. On the other hand however, better they are honest with the public about the torture and hacking they were going to be doing regardless of what their laws said.
i think you ought to also factor in that different data merits different levels of redundant backups. Not every bit of info ever scrapable from the web requires the same level of concern as far as archiving goes. Obviously this is no doubt part of the process already. Your back of the envelope calculations need to factor that in. I'm guessing you probably want to take the 1% most generally valuable data of that 23GB and have 10X more backups of it than of the rest. I'm thinking a globally distributed 'p2p' versioned filesystem is the right way to go about it. Same basic principle bittorrent uses IIRC- effectively the more accesses data gets, the more prominent it's position in the multi-level distributed effective caches. No central authority or copy. The potential for abuse of that central authority or copy is simply too high in my opinion.
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Don't lie to the kids. There are limits. But it doesn't make the gist of your sentiment less worth noting. There is indeed a vast space of interesting things to do within those limits. The basic limit, beyond the less talked about ones, is that you need to somehow provide for yourself and get along in society. However aside from that, with your spare time, a raspberry pi and and a cheap hdtv and keyboard, you can do some pretty amazing things. Add a few things purchased relatively inexpensively from adafruit and amazon, and you can really do some pretty amazing things. It may be a ton of work, you may not cash in on it, but it doesn't take tens of thousands of dollars and a CS degree from a place with expensive big buildings. What was locked away from the masses of past generations in expensive ivory towers can now be burned on a dvd super cheap.
Trump is unfortunate. Keep your head down kids, the shit is going to get thick here for a few years.
More to the point, the lawyers of 7 out of 8 companies advised their clients to STFU and hope the issue goes away.
That sounds like my rationalization for not giving any real consideration during the campaign to the contingency of Trump winning. Oops.
Your comment clearly willfully neglects the issues surrounding religious persecution and rivalry that is at the heart of this. I'd accuse you of being naive, but I doubt that is accurate.
Bush and Clinton tried to build one before, part of it eventually was used to become what we now know as the no-fly list. Obama had the chance to get rid of it and didn't. But I guess it's okay if the establishment does it.
Equal Protection Under The Law. Nice concept.
How about for a start posting a list of IP addresses, or possibly more nuanced evidential trace information, to a global database that anyone can check if they like? The early adopter power users might load the simple app that facilitates ensuring that they can at least pull such minimal notification if they are interested. That doesn't sound infeasible to me, though I invite comments explaining what is wrong with my theoretical reasonable solution.
Until I hear a much better story about why the authorities can get away with knowing computers are compromised with unauthorized accessors, while not notifying the owners so that they can remedy the situation including optionally exercising their right to prosecute the offender... Well, I'll assume something slightly less than fully above board policy is going on.
It seems to me that if the efforts were made to get the hacked victims notified, more effective and appropriate market pressures would travel upstream to the relevant insufficiently supported device manufacturers.
List of sovereign states: "193 member states, two observer states, and 11 other states." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... 180 is covered AC. It just shows the reach of the "International Authorities" AC. If they can cooperate on this, how is any VPN secure in most nations?
The same way a VPN is secure generally? What you mean perhaps is- How is any VPN guaranteed to be reliable across national borders utilizing publicly available commercial infrastructure network interconnections even against a cooperating international community opposed to it? And the answer is that no such guarantee was ever implied or presumed by anyone who gave it much thought.
So yes, I'll double down on my original comment that naming your product after a poison, or your development team after a term with sexist and/or derogatory connotations, might have clearly displayed an intent to repel a majority of potential users instead of attract them. What a disservice those branding choices did for the wider public's general ability to obtain viable alternatives to the open source android mobile phone OS.
And can we please get a name that doesn't sound like a well known poison associated with spies? Going with refined sugar based confections for branding does seem like a smarter tactic, sigh...
Bullshit. What part of "Trump is horrible. No doubt about that." did you not factor into your understanding of my position?
I'll reiterate and further clarify two points I was trying to make-
1) The Khan family may have been defamed, however if so it was subsequent to a very(*highest level*) overt provocation. As it happens, I agree with most of how you chose to portray the issue. If the Khan family had succeeded in preventing Trump from being the president-elect, and believed that their behavior had helped achieve that, I'd f'n love them for it. And think Trump got what he deserved. Unfortunately, we live in a different universe.
2) The media narrative on Trump seems IMO to have not included as much as I think is deserved, my other point that
In other words "provocation and trolling- Trump gets it.". I think this is something everyone on the planet needs to get a generally better understanding of ASAP. I am very, very worried about the transition and coming years. I don't like what I think I see as far as the popular narratives of Trump misunderstanding what kind of player he is. Being misunderstood I think is how he has accumulated so much dangerous power.
"How can we make users pay *US* for them to access their OWN content, on THEIR servers"...?
... utilizing Free and Open Source Software ...
Goodness.....
PLEASE powers that be....make sure this is one thing we do NOT import from China to the US.
I think the US already has it. It's called the No Fly List and they're trying to use it to take away some constitutional rights.
Second class citizenry. What could possibly go wrong. If only that was the basis of Trump's illegal immigration stance.
I think it would be very hard to believe that marijuana was good for you. You generally burn it and inhale it - that usually isn't a part of healthy living.
With that said, alcohol is your gold standard. It causes cancer, liver disease, thousands of deaths in the form of auto accidents. It's implicated in mental health disorders and causes plenty of other social ills.
I hope for your sake that was a troll. Alcohol is great as a disinfectant. In moderation for many people it is a great stress reliever and social lubricant. Hammers are great at building houses. Just because hammers can also be accidentally dropped on a foot or used as a murder weapon doesn't mean... I'm sure you catch my drift.
FYI- if you've ever experimented with burning either tobacco or cannabis, you really ought to try a modern vape. Just as alcohol's benefit to the field of medicine has been enhanced by synergistic advances, so too have the benefits of cannabis with the modern synergistic advances in paraphrenalia.
+1, keep up the good work using your brain regardless of how much bloodflow was required. Part of the pattern here is "non-normality implies negative results". Just because something is different doesn't necessarily mean it is bad. Especially when, as @limaxray pointed out- you can verify the false theory by simply looking outside and realizing the sky isn't in the process of falling (except when it literally is, not that that matters)
I nominate this for understatement of they year/decade/century/millenia (no offence to the other nominees)
Sort of. When they're doing it all cloak and dagger, they have two fairly strong restrictions: 1) A slap on the wrist if anyone finds out. 2) Inadmissible in court.
When they're doing it in public, they only have the one restriction: That a judge sign off on it.
1) you seem to have some contradiction there between "fairly strong restriction" and "slap on the wrist if anyone finds out"
2) They invented "parallel construction" some time ago.
Countries like Russia, China, etc.. hell even friendly countries like Canada or the UK.. should be super annoyed with this though as the FBI is effectively claiming jurisdiction over their most-definitely-not-American computer systems (and the citizens operating them.)
I go back to my original point- They were going to do the hacking anyway. They have been doing the hacking anyway. The right answer for foreign governments and populations is the same right answer as for domestic citizens like myself- Don't leave my doors unlocked, my windows open, or my telecommunicated data unencrypted, or the devices i purchased and 'own' in a state where they can be hacked and used in ways I would not consent to.
So as you already indicated, they were all criminals because they were doing these things anyway, so now it's okay to just make it legal to do them?
Its illegal to tar and feather public officials, so should we do it anyway, and then see if we can get them to vote to make it legal?
That was almost coherent. My point, if indeed you are truly struggling to understand it, is that in the big picture, it matters less what the law is, and more how most people understand what is going on regardless of the legality. I think this issue is one of a set of issues that are very important to how human society is going to function for the next hundred years. If this potential-law had been stopped, *for the right reasons*, then sure, that would have been the better outcome. If it had been stopped *for the wrong reasons* (i.e. absent a better public understanding of what the real long term worst dangers are), then it may well have led to a worse outcome than the present situation.
Also, you appear to be what I would classify as a "criminal status fetishist". Have you ever exceeded the posted speed limit? If you can grok, please try to work more nuance into your sentiment in the future.
You know you really want a pony too, don't lie.
I won't bother finding the youtube link for you, but go watch the Kahn family on the DNC nomination stage. You are just as guilty of Trumpesque distortion when you imply that Trump's behavior was not partially justified as defensive political reaction. If the Kahn family didn't *want* to provoke a very public response from a presidential candidate, they could have chosen a much less gauntlet-level initiation of their free speech. Trump is horrible. No doubt about that. But the way he wins is to be provocative and get poorly thought out overinflammatory responses from his political opponents to his provocations. What you did there was playing right into his game.
Any tor utilizing application's zero-day bugs can be used to unmask that tor utilizing app's users.
I consider twitter and reddit and *cough* usenet *cough* and *cough* the entire rest of the internet *cough* to be more significant competitors to facebook than the competitors to microsquish were back in the netscape navigator days.
Back in the day, without microsquish, ordinary folk couldn't reasonably *use a computer*. Apples and Oranges. Thank God for the relative - if not total world dominating - success FOSS has enjoyed since then.
This second sentence is absurd, because it is functionally equal if you remove all words from the first sentence except 'TV'.
There's plenty Trump is actually doing that will have drastic consequences over the next few decades to be concerned about. Lets not start worrying about a power he hasn't abused yet, has made no comments that show he will abuse it, and if abused would be more an annoyance than a crisis. Priorities people.
Part of good priority utilization is in taking care of low hanging fruit when optimal. Hashtag (mobile phone) root matters (more than the general reaction of the public in recent history has suggested). If this story directed at this audience could better achieve the critical mass of getting the vast minority of mobile phone users having root, versus the vast minority, then I would consider that something of a possibly forgivable quasi-Trumpian troll.
On the one hand this of course sounds bad for all the obvious reasons slashdot has focused on over the many many years. On the other hand however, better they are honest with the public about the torture and hacking they were going to be doing regardless of what their laws said.
i think you ought to also factor in that different data merits different levels of redundant backups. Not every bit of info ever scrapable from the web requires the same level of concern as far as archiving goes. Obviously this is no doubt part of the process already. Your back of the envelope calculations need to factor that in. I'm guessing you probably want to take the 1% most generally valuable data of that 23GB and have 10X more backups of it than of the rest. I'm thinking a globally distributed 'p2p' versioned filesystem is the right way to go about it. Same basic principle bittorrent uses IIRC- effectively the more accesses data gets, the more prominent it's position in the multi-level distributed effective caches. No central authority or copy. The potential for abuse of that central authority or copy is simply too high in my opinion.