Zoe: Preacher, don't the Bible have some pretty specific things to say about killin'?
Book: Quite specific. It is, however, somewhat fuzzier on the subject of kneecaps.
How else is he supposed to take someone saying 'can't we just drone him'?
Sarcastically? Ironically? Hyperbole? With a sense of humor?
Few sociopaths understand humor.
If the United States had held the moral high ground on assassination tactics outside of declared war, then yeah, maybe it could be taken as a joke. OTOH government agents have a differing duty when it comes to such important use of words. Even if Assange rationally accepted that it was 97% likely to be a joke, he might estimate that under that probability umbrella he might expected to be treated with all the respect that Manning has been given. In which case, same difference. I'd do to you what Hillary would do to Assange if she could if I could. Sweet Dreams.
They didn't come standard with the schematics, but you could buy technical reference manuals from IBM which included both the schematics and the BIOS source code for the systems.
Well... I'm sure you can buy them today too. It matters a lot what the pricetag is however. And even if you quote me an affordable number from the 80's, I still contend that was for a vanishingly small percentage of the population at large. Compared to probably multiple more powerful devices owned at less than 1/10th the price by just about everyone today.
Hillary established a precedent that high-placed officials do not have to follow any rules. Does not prosecuting her still sound like a marvellous idea now?
Not prosecuting her never sounded like a marvellous idea to me, but then again I was never privy to all the details, classified and otherwise of the case. However were she prosecuted, it sure sounds like they would have had to also prosecute Colin Powell, and the secret service agents that were familiar with the existence of the home email server. I never really expected to see that, though it would have been interesting to watch. As far as those sorts of precedents go, I would only direct your attention to the multitude of controversies around the W administration. From funds diverted from an Afghanistan war that congress knew about and was involved with, to the early stages of an Iraq war that congress was in the dark about, to waterboarding and torture and 'collateral murder'. Tens of thousands of uncounted civilian casualties in the aforementioned wars until Manning and Assange revealed the secret counts kept from the public. Sure, lets talk about precedents and presidents a bit more. Obama sure did seem to do pretty well with the economy on fire he inherited from W/Cheney.
A raspberry pi or less lol you really have absolutely no idea do you. A Raspberry Pi CPU is hundreds of times more complex than what you could etch out in your garage.
Call it a 'trumpesque quasi troll'. Realistically I would expect it to be several years before a workable Atari-400 level analog was readily accessible. Multiple aspects of this problem can be worked on in parallel, so during the years that the physical processes are being developed (and coming down in price in various ways due to various innovations and evolutions of existing tech) to get to the A400 level, whatever hurdles would then be encountered subsequently scaling up to the firstgen rpi could have been seen far ahead of time and preemptively optomized for speediest development. This isn't just analagous to the efforts it took to build and engineer this stuff the first time around. We have tons of factors helping us out at this stage in the game. I would be overjoyed with a sega-dreamcast level 3D performance in a 100% FOSS(and hardware) incarnation.
This will get really fun the day someone manages to make an CPU on his own garage.
That day is in the past, not the future. Some early cpus were taped out, etched, and metallized by hand. Today, you need nano-scale photolithography and a multi-billion dollar fab. You can load this CPU into an FPGA, but if you want it directly in silicon, you ain't gonna do that in no garage.
Today, you need to set your expectations and hopes realistically. If it could be done in the past, it can be done today. You will just have to have expectations of utility more in line with what the folks in the past had, rather than what you might wish for with knowledge of today's commercial tech.
Set your sights towards a raspberry pi or less, not towards modern high performance products. At least for the start. It may well be that once you get the thin end of the wedge / foot in the door, you can scale up a bit (but still nowhere near that multi-billion dollar fab level).
Don't discourage people. There is a metric F-ton of things you could do with an Atari-400 and a cellular modem. Probably you could get enough to implement GPG soon thereafter.
The real question is whether or not the combination of Edward Snowden and Donald Trump will provide the necessary impetus for critical mass to finally be achieved.
It is hard for me to see why that is in any sense a "real question" in regards to open hardware.
s/real/most important from my perspective/, whatever. To help you to see I'll walk you through my reasoning- A) Snowden reveals just how serious security is at all levels, in ways that the public didn't seem to be concerned much about prior. B) Trump represents the kind of literal reality persona that more overtly conflicts with the good ol' "Trust your establishment industry overlords, you have nothing to fear. Why would you ever want to trouble yourself with that cumbersome GPG geekery". And finally C) The importance I see of open hardware is giving people a reasonable chance at having 'ownership' style power over the devices they purchase that are capable of so thoroughly spying on them even against their desire and consent. I'm not expecting you to agree with that thought flow, but I hope it isn't so hard for you to see what sense of concern I was expressing.
This sounds like a good early step towards a more technologically free future.
Momentum has been building in the open source hardware space since way back. Opencores.org [wikipedia.org] started in 1999[...]
I was vaguely aware of these things (as I've been reading/. since 1999). The real question is whether or not the combination of Edward Snowden and Donald Trump will provide the necessary impetus for critical mass to finally be achieved. Or whether or not the powers that be are aware enough of how much of a threat this is to certain spycraft, and how successful they are in running interference to prevent it from becoming a viable solution for the masses for another few decades.
This sounds like a good early step towards a more technologically free future. It may not be enough to prevent the Skynet apocalypse, but it's nice to see at least a few people making the effort. Personally I only trust product manufacturers that don't behave as though not trusting them is a bad thing.
He "installed a forbidden internet connection" in the FUCKING PENTAGON? Excuse me? Either he had his very own cat6 ran through the building just for him, in secret (fucking impossible) or he tethered his fucking smartphone (big fucking deal.) Talk about a tempest in a teapot.
Actually tethering smart phones is one of the biggest fucking deals there is. There's some real power politic going on there if you hadn't noticed over the last couple decades. That's a powerful way to use the internet. It's heavily taxed.
Hillary using e-mail wasn't the problem. It was her setting up an insecure private MS Exchange server in order to avoid oversight from the government or public (via FOIA requests) and to make her willful destruction of evidence so much easier.
That would be a sensible perception if it weren't for the fact that you left out the hugely relevant fact that the United States Secret Service was involved with this (at least knowledgeable of it) every step of the way. If you really believe you can prosecute (even if only in some fantasy of a non-corrupt court) those SS agents that were aware of the server as well as Hillary...
If in fact the SS made no efforts to ensure the server was as secure as anything else she would have used, then yeah, we've got even more problems with the SS than those drunk driving incidents.
I do wonder, though--does anyone know if they bothered to report on the doc showing Colin Powell doing this?
I seem to recall the FBI releasing evidence from an investigation that included Colin Powel being directly quoted in statements telling Clinton "here's how I got away with it".
But that was a crazy election, I can almost understand how you might have missed that. Almost. Troll.
Sure, and it was pretty clear in the first place. Mainly I was giving you flak about the word 'everyone'. There are a lot of 'ones' that would probably take offense at being put into that category by you, in that context especially. I'm sure you grok.
Otherwise, your clarification did reiterate your consideration of the tax<->llc issue being secondary- Though my entry into the discussion was really a result of pondering the idea of it being a primary thing. You presented a good counter-narrative to that. Thanks. However I'm still going to ponder it some more. I have this hunch that the tax/llc angle is a ripe ground for corruption, which you alluded to as well, though no, i'm not in the mood to debate specifics here and now. Though I will add that in the absence of the tax/llc angle, I have a differing vision of the intractability of scaling that you described. Computers can manage such things pretty well once you program in the rules.
According to... according to... apparently... doesn't provide a clear picture as to why... It's likely... or possibly... If... It's also possible...
Everything else in the summary is conjecture.
Good stuff. I'd only try to cast a little more light toward the squirrelly quotes around "forbidden". That was when I knew this must be top quality journalism (sarcasm).
Democrats have not only recently rediscovered the virtues of limit government, but also the virtues of following rules?
There are some serious machiavellian games afoot to prevent people from understanding how powerful technology is. The situation is this- Neither this instance (as far as I can tell from the summary), nor Hillary Clinton's home email server were things that surprised anyone with any technical proficiency. The powers that be understand better than the masses just how powerful each and every mobile phone and personal computer are along with the internet. Hillary blew it I think when it was discovered that amongst the thousands of emails she was reluctant to release for records keeping purposes, were thousands related to her work that were legally required to be archived by the state, and not withheld. If she had done a more perfect job of seperating the two sets, she wouldn't have been as damaged by the issue. This case however (again, just from the summary) doesn't appear to have any justifiable corner case for the existence of this non-organizational IT subversion. However just as Trump gets away with 'post-truth' flip-flops and such, I don't see his support base as being terribly bothered by this style breach of national IT security by 'one of their own'. Hypocrisy- Jesus taught me to get used to it.
Electronic voting as a whole is a gigantic boondoggle. There are only three reasons for it to exist: People who are too impatient to wait for manual counting, people who are looking to make a tidy profit selling a broken solution to a problem that doesn't need solving, and people who are interested in a way to fuck with the polls without getting caught.
Next thing you know somebody will advocate that people note and organize the aspects of their life that are benefited by confidential security with pen and paper pads that fit in a pocket instead of a cloud connected supercomputer with a (potentially hot) live microphone. Anarchy would surely result. </sarcasm>
I can see it now, Snowden doing a little dance on the border. Taunting Trump. Imagine how little the Trump presidency would make sense to us if it weren't for Snowden. What a World.
But Getty shouldn't be getting away scott free, as the images are in the public domain they have no standing to sue anyone for using the images without a license.
This is not an area the legal system is setup to handle very well.
Perhaps Trump will Make America Great Again. I'm sure our founding fathers just weren't smart enough to figure out a legal situation like this. Trump can complete their divine plan.
I would support 0 tax for corporations if directors of corporations become personally liable for all decisions made by a corporation including bankruptcy so if a corporation like Trump Hotels declares bankruptcy then Donald Trump loses his right to vote and right to stand for elections.
You kind of lost me here, as I would hope the terms in such a concise discussion would expand the scope beyond the rare corner-cases that involve whacky president elect billionaires. But thanks for the answer, I'll ponder it some.
I think it matters a lot in this situation that Trump beat Clinton instead of vice-versa as most of the world expected would happen. Especially with the way Trump won, even if he's seemed to dial it back since the election. Personally I'm not at all certain the differential is quite that significant, but I suspect the rest of the world including Germany is more concerned with the scale and direction of state surveillance under Trump than they would have been with the same apparatus under Clinton.
Myself I think Clinton deserved more flak over the fingerprints and credit card numbers taken from UN diplomats in NY revealed by Wikileaks/Manning (that was cablegate right?). But somehow even after that, I get the impression that the world is more willing to give Hillary the benefit of the doubt there than they are to Trump. For very good reasons of course.
I am very liberal, and very much a Democrat. Yet, I completely agree. It makes no sense to tax a corporation. Tax personal income. Tax sales of goods and services. Allow a business to invest all its money in itself and it's employees.
If only there were more of us who feel this way. I'm really so old I've forgotten all of my thinking process on this, but is corporate taxation in addition to the taxation of investment profits/dividends simply a kind of double dipping for no clearly valuable reason? Am I just so old I've forgotten the clearly valuable reason? Somebody from the non-alt-left want to try and remind me?
We can't look to Trump to ask for a recount, as he has nothing to gain from it (i.e. he lost nothing) and thus may lack legal standing.
He, like all U.S. citizens lost the legitimately elected leader of their nation, thus he has as much standing as we all do. If in fact that was the case. However the Hillary email server controversy still doesn't make sense to me. Dunno...
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(at least, that's how he perceived it)
How else is he supposed to take someone saying 'can't we just drone him'?
Sarcastically? Ironically? Hyperbole? With a sense of humor?
Few sociopaths understand humor.
If the United States had held the moral high ground on assassination tactics outside of declared war, then yeah, maybe it could be taken as a joke. OTOH government agents have a differing duty when it comes to such important use of words. Even if Assange rationally accepted that it was 97% likely to be a joke, he might estimate that under that probability umbrella he might expected to be treated with all the respect that Manning has been given. In which case, same difference. I'd do to you what Hillary would do to Assange if she could if I could. Sweet Dreams.
There is no innovation or evolution in tech that is going to let you fab a 6502 in your garage. Ever.
You sound confident in your long term prediction. Time will tell.
Well... I'm sure you can buy them today too. It matters a lot what the pricetag is however. And even if you quote me an affordable number from the 80's, I still contend that was for a vanishingly small percentage of the population at large. Compared to probably multiple more powerful devices owned at less than 1/10th the price by just about everyone today.
Hillary established a precedent that high-placed officials do not have to follow any rules. Does not prosecuting her still sound like a marvellous idea now?
Not prosecuting her never sounded like a marvellous idea to me, but then again I was never privy to all the details, classified and otherwise of the case. However were she prosecuted, it sure sounds like they would have had to also prosecute Colin Powell, and the secret service agents that were familiar with the existence of the home email server. I never really expected to see that, though it would have been interesting to watch. As far as those sorts of precedents go, I would only direct your attention to the multitude of controversies around the W administration. From funds diverted from an Afghanistan war that congress knew about and was involved with, to the early stages of an Iraq war that congress was in the dark about, to waterboarding and torture and 'collateral murder'. Tens of thousands of uncounted civilian casualties in the aforementioned wars until Manning and Assange revealed the secret counts kept from the public. Sure, lets talk about precedents and presidents a bit more. Obama sure did seem to do pretty well with the economy on fire he inherited from W/Cheney.
A raspberry pi or less lol you really have absolutely no idea do you. A Raspberry Pi CPU is hundreds of times more complex than what you could etch out in your garage.
Call it a 'trumpesque quasi troll'. Realistically I would expect it to be several years before a workable Atari-400 level analog was readily accessible. Multiple aspects of this problem can be worked on in parallel, so during the years that the physical processes are being developed (and coming down in price in various ways due to various innovations and evolutions of existing tech) to get to the A400 level, whatever hurdles would then be encountered subsequently scaling up to the firstgen rpi could have been seen far ahead of time and preemptively optomized for speediest development. This isn't just analagous to the efforts it took to build and engineer this stuff the first time around. We have tons of factors helping us out at this stage in the game. I would be overjoyed with a sega-dreamcast level 3D performance in a 100% FOSS(and hardware) incarnation.
This will get really fun the day someone manages to make an CPU on his own garage.
That day is in the past, not the future. Some early cpus were taped out, etched, and metallized by hand. Today, you need nano-scale photolithography and a multi-billion dollar fab. You can load this CPU into an FPGA, but if you want it directly in silicon, you ain't gonna do that in no garage.
Today, you need to set your expectations and hopes realistically. If it could be done in the past, it can be done today. You will just have to have expectations of utility more in line with what the folks in the past had, rather than what you might wish for with knowledge of today's commercial tech.
Set your sights towards a raspberry pi or less, not towards modern high performance products. At least for the start. It may well be that once you get the thin end of the wedge / foot in the door, you can scale up a bit (but still nowhere near that multi-billion dollar fab level).
Don't discourage people. There is a metric F-ton of things you could do with an Atari-400 and a cellular modem. Probably you could get enough to implement GPG soon thereafter.
The real question is whether or not the combination of Edward Snowden and Donald Trump will provide the necessary impetus for critical mass to finally be achieved.
It is hard for me to see why that is in any sense a "real question" in regards to open hardware.
s/real/most important from my perspective/, whatever. To help you to see I'll walk you through my reasoning- A) Snowden reveals just how serious security is at all levels, in ways that the public didn't seem to be concerned much about prior. B) Trump represents the kind of literal reality persona that more overtly conflicts with the good ol' "Trust your establishment industry overlords, you have nothing to fear. Why would you ever want to trouble yourself with that cumbersome GPG geekery". And finally C) The importance I see of open hardware is giving people a reasonable chance at having 'ownership' style power over the devices they purchase that are capable of so thoroughly spying on them even against their desire and consent. I'm not expecting you to agree with that thought flow, but I hope it isn't so hard for you to see what sense of concern I was expressing.
I was vaguely aware of these things (as I've been reading /. since 1999). The real question is whether or not the combination of Edward Snowden and Donald Trump will provide the necessary impetus for critical mass to finally be achieved. Or whether or not the powers that be are aware enough of how much of a threat this is to certain spycraft, and how successful they are in running interference to prevent it from becoming a viable solution for the masses for another few decades.
This sounds like a good early step towards a more technologically free future. It may not be enough to prevent the Skynet apocalypse, but it's nice to see at least a few people making the effort. Personally I only trust product manufacturers that don't behave as though not trusting them is a bad thing.
He "installed a forbidden internet connection" in the FUCKING PENTAGON? Excuse me? Either he had his very own cat6 ran through the building just for him, in secret (fucking impossible) or he tethered his fucking smartphone (big fucking deal.) Talk about a tempest in a teapot.
Actually tethering smart phones is one of the biggest fucking deals there is. There's some real power politic going on there if you hadn't noticed over the last couple decades. That's a powerful way to use the internet. It's heavily taxed.
That would be a sensible perception if it weren't for the fact that you left out the hugely relevant fact that the United States Secret Service was involved with this (at least knowledgeable of it) every step of the way. If you really believe you can prosecute (even if only in some fantasy of a non-corrupt court) those SS agents that were aware of the server as well as Hillary...
If in fact the SS made no efforts to ensure the server was as secure as anything else she would have used, then yeah, we've got even more problems with the SS than those drunk driving incidents.
I seem to recall the FBI releasing evidence from an investigation that included Colin Powel being directly quoted in statements telling Clinton "here's how I got away with it".
But that was a crazy election, I can almost understand how you might have missed that. Almost. Troll.
Sure, and it was pretty clear in the first place. Mainly I was giving you flak about the word 'everyone'. There are a lot of 'ones' that would probably take offense at being put into that category by you, in that context especially. I'm sure you grok.
Otherwise, your clarification did reiterate your consideration of the tax<->llc issue being secondary- Though my entry into the discussion was really a result of pondering the idea of it being a primary thing. You presented a good counter-narrative to that. Thanks. However I'm still going to ponder it some more. I have this hunch that the tax/llc angle is a ripe ground for corruption, which you alluded to as well, though no, i'm not in the mood to debate specifics here and now. Though I will add that in the absence of the tax/llc angle, I have a differing vision of the intractability of scaling that you described. Computers can manage such things pretty well once you program in the rules.
Here's the relevant parts of the summary.
According to ... according to ... apparently ... doesn't provide a clear picture as to why... It's likely ... or possibly ... If ... It's also possible ...
Everything else in the summary is conjecture.
Good stuff. I'd only try to cast a little more light toward the squirrelly quotes around "forbidden". That was when I knew this must be top quality journalism (sarcasm).
Democrats have not only recently rediscovered the virtues of limit government, but also the virtues of following rules?
There are some serious machiavellian games afoot to prevent people from understanding how powerful technology is. The situation is this- Neither this instance (as far as I can tell from the summary), nor Hillary Clinton's home email server were things that surprised anyone with any technical proficiency. The powers that be understand better than the masses just how powerful each and every mobile phone and personal computer are along with the internet. Hillary blew it I think when it was discovered that amongst the thousands of emails she was reluctant to release for records keeping purposes, were thousands related to her work that were legally required to be archived by the state, and not withheld. If she had done a more perfect job of seperating the two sets, she wouldn't have been as damaged by the issue. This case however (again, just from the summary) doesn't appear to have any justifiable corner case for the existence of this non-organizational IT subversion. However just as Trump gets away with 'post-truth' flip-flops and such, I don't see his support base as being terribly bothered by this style breach of national IT security by 'one of their own'. Hypocrisy- Jesus taught me to get used to it.
Next thing you know somebody will advocate that people note and organize the aspects of their life that are benefited by confidential security with pen and paper pads that fit in a pocket instead of a cloud connected supercomputer with a (potentially hot) live microphone. Anarchy would surely result. </sarcasm>
I can see it now, Snowden doing a little dance on the border. Taunting Trump. Imagine how little the Trump presidency would make sense to us if it weren't for Snowden. What a World.
Perhaps Trump will Make America Great Again. I'm sure our founding fathers just weren't smart enough to figure out a legal situation like this. Trump can complete their divine plan.
Somebody sure drank some good flavored sugar water.
You kind of lost me here, as I would hope the terms in such a concise discussion would expand the scope beyond the rare corner-cases that involve whacky president elect billionaires. But thanks for the answer, I'll ponder it some.
The first point is not a fact. Once you assign motivations you are engaging in supposition and are no longer dealing with facts.
Very unflawed legal analysis
I think it matters a lot in this situation that Trump beat Clinton instead of vice-versa as most of the world expected would happen. Especially with the way Trump won, even if he's seemed to dial it back since the election. Personally I'm not at all certain the differential is quite that significant, but I suspect the rest of the world including Germany is more concerned with the scale and direction of state surveillance under Trump than they would have been with the same apparatus under Clinton.
Myself I think Clinton deserved more flak over the fingerprints and credit card numbers taken from UN diplomats in NY revealed by Wikileaks/Manning (that was cablegate right?). But somehow even after that, I get the impression that the world is more willing to give Hillary the benefit of the doubt there than they are to Trump. For very good reasons of course.
I am very liberal, and very much a Democrat. Yet, I completely agree. It makes no sense to tax a corporation. Tax personal income. Tax sales of goods and services. Allow a business to invest all its money in itself and it's employees.
If only there were more of us who feel this way. I'm really so old I've forgotten all of my thinking process on this, but is corporate taxation in addition to the taxation of investment profits/dividends simply a kind of double dipping for no clearly valuable reason? Am I just so old I've forgotten the clearly valuable reason? Somebody from the non-alt-left want to try and remind me?
He, like all U.S. citizens lost the legitimately elected leader of their nation, thus he has as much standing as we all do. If in fact that was the case. However the Hillary email server controversy still doesn't make sense to me. Dunno...