Elections have consequences. If the people chose to vote for people that will do this to them then that is their choice. If the people who live in Fla fail to go out and vote for the people that wants to do something about this rather than the people who calls it a hoax and refuse to deal with the miners then that is their choice. In all circumstances it's the people's choice. Bottom line people vote or refuse to vote and they get what they get.
You are seriously trying to convince me that Samsung recalling millions of phones because they explode and a few incompetent repair people and a guy in China biting a battery made iPhones explode is the same thing because what?... because Apple == Satan?... because, well... uuuuuhhhhh....Android is better and that's gospel? Now that's classic.
I could keep going down the google search results, but I'm sure you get the point.
Really? did you read those articles? The first one looks like a 3rd party fixit shop who may or may not have installed a new battery incorrectly. Here are some of the shinier nuggets from the other two:
In all the weird ways people destroy their phones, O’Neal said, he’s yet to come across someone whose battery blew up in their pocket.
“We’ve definitely seen phones that have been shot with BB guns, phones ran over and ones severely bent,” O’Neal says. “Even in all those cases, the battery did not explode or ignite.”
While phone-battery explosions are rare, they do occur. In January, an Apple store in Zurich, Switzerland, had to be evacuated after a worker at the store attempted to extract a battery from an iPhone, according to a CNN story.
I positively love this one, a classic case of 'replace user':
Also in January, an iPhone battery blew up in a man’s face when he bit into it in an electronics store in China. Newsweek reported on the incident.
Thanks for those links, I laughed my ass off while reading the last one.
If normal, why did bending not appear on older models?
I've owned well over a dozen aluminium chassis devices from laptops to tablets and phones but I've never bothered to check one for absolute straightness and as-advertised dimensions with a ruler and calipers. Have you?
No but I do regularly put my devices on hard flat surfaces which would clearly reveal any slight bends.
If normal, why did bending not appear on older models?
I've owned well over a dozen aluminium chassis devices from laptops to tablets and phones but I've never bothered to check one for absolute straightness and as-advertised dimensions with a ruler and calipers. Have you?
No but I do regularly put my devices on hard flat surfaces which would clearly reveal any slight bends.
...and I follow the philosophy of putting my devices into a $20 cover to keep the $800 tablet from being damaged by falling or getting knocked into things so I tend not to notice (or care) whether there is a 0.5 mm bend in the device when I lay it down on a perfectly flat table top.
If normal, why did bending not appear on older models?
Who says it didn't appear on older models? I've owned well over a dozen aluminium chassis devices from laptops to tablets and phones but I've never bothered to check one for absolute straightness and as-advertised dimensions with a ruler and calipers. Have you?
It's a violation of debians CoCk?
Why are debian allowed cock jokes but these guys aren't allowed boob jokes?
Because only Americans could become concerned about the potential for harassment in Debian software package names and Americans are a strange people who get psychologically scarred for life if they see a nipple on TV but have no problems taking their kids to see a movie about a Jewish guy being tortured and then nailed to a cross?
I don't really care whose plastic this is, it is affecting my life
No, it is not affecting your life. News about far away places is not about you. You aren't the center of the universe.
Oh all knowing one I must beg to differ. Numerous studies have shown that micro and nano plastics are present in every major food group consumed in my neck of the woods so, this really is a problem that affects me even if the vast majority of the plastic in my food comes from other countries.
I'm in favour of doing something about this problem
Bullying people in the US and Europe doesn't affect "this problem" in any way.
WTF are you talking about? Are you one of those whiny little Trumpist bitches that can't shut up about how 'unfairly' 'persecuted' they are by every body and every thing? Don't you people ever get tired of being a victim?
We re losing jobs because China and other countries tolerate working conditions, environmental transgressions, and things that would never fly in the US.
You CANNOT pick up a Chinese steel plant, drop it in Ohio, and operate it at the same level of profit as you can in China, even taking into account the wages and cost of materials. THAT is why US manufacturers go there.
Some people say we have outsourced jobs. What we really outsourced was the pollution and working conditions that would never be tolerated in the U.S.
Which begs the question: If it's not OK to manufacture things in the US under these conditions, then why is it OK to do so in China? If we import these items, are we not even a little bit morally responsible for the misery and pollution inflicted while creating these things?
Wrong, we are losing jobs because they are gone. Today it takes 20 hours of human labor to build a car, in 1980 it was over 100. So most of the auto workers are gone. Not coming back. Ever.
No, in actual fact you are both right. There are fewer jobs of US auto workers today than there were in the 1980s because of increasing automation. Come to think of it there were fewer jobs for auto workers in the US in 1980 than there were in 1950 because of automation, so, nothing new there. However,US companies are also outsourcing work to places like China because in China you can treat workers like crap and pollute at will. I know it is really tempting to simplify your world view by pointing at one factor as the driving force behind complex changes driven by multiple factors and proclaim that you have somehow solved the problem and you are certainly free to cling to that delusion if it floats your boat but there is no reason to be a dick about it.
Something useful to know when assholes want to ban things in the US and Europe: it's not your plastic.
Say no to zealots and totalitarians.
I don't really care whose plastic this is, it is affecting my life so I'm in favour of doing something about this problem. Nobody ever put out a forest fire threatening to burn down his house by sitting on his ass and thinking: "I don't care, I didn't light this fire".
do you really think China wants to get into a war with the US? all of the money they generate making stuff will go away. that would be cutting their hands off to spite their face
What makes you think that all the players on the Chinese are rational actors who make rational decisions and that there are no war hawks on the Chinese side? Or as Eisenhower pointed out: "Wars are stupid and they can start stupidly,"... and that stupidity is usually born of nationalism and patriotic fever.
A tax on a corporation is a tax on its customers, not on its owners. The costs are always passed along. Not that I cry any tears for marketeers buying ads, either.
Fortunately for us in the US, bills of attainder are unconstitutional. You can't just tax someone you don't like, or because they have money. That was one of the specific things that led to the Revolutionary War (though the event that kicked it off was attempted confiscation of "assault weapons", as we'd call them today).
They are not going after Google because Google is an American company that they don’t like. They are going after these corporations because they use public services but contribute next to nothing in return and what little they do pay in taxes they pay iin tax shelters and not the county where the profit is made. Critics of corporate taxation in the US have the exact same complaints of these same corporations over the same shenanigans.
Only 23% in Europe? My company in the netherlands has to pay around 40% in taxes on profit, only foreign companies that wish to setup a company in the netherlands get to pay less taxes.
I think the 23% is an average after all loop holes and tax avoidance schemes have been taken into account. Another thing to consider is that the large majority of companies are smaller companies who do not have the resources to avoid taxes like Google/Amazon/Facebook/Apple and the likes can so they pull this average up. The big players pay way less taxes than small to medium businesses because they, unlike the little guys, can afford to hire entire financial services companies who dedicate themselves 24/7 to help the likes of Google to dodge taxes. I've heard figures of Google and friends paying as little as 2-3% effective taxes in the US.
France seem to be literally broke, first carbon tax, that didn't work because people started yellow vest moment, well lets tax google and wholesale has money. Some serious desperation, Macrone and his grandma are marching to the guillotine
Google and the rest of these digital giants pay a 9.5 percent effective tax in the EU compared to 23.2 percent for traditional businesses. They can squeal all they want but a hike of 3% is not going to make me cry any rivers over Google's pain. I pay way more than a measly 9.5% of my income into the state's coffers. Counting indirect taxes, tolls and fees the state takes around half of my income in one form or another.
The dinosaurs died out roughly 70 million years ago (except for birds).
I was watching this documentary about feathered dinosaurs. It had an interview with a Chinese Palaeontologist who has done a lot of work on feathered dinosaurs and specifically the feathered raptors that evolved into birds. At the end he terminated the film by excusing himself to the interviewer because his wife had asked him to buy a dinosaur for dinner on his way home. The documentary ended with a shot of him heading home from the market carrying a chicken. It puts a whole new perspective on going to Kentucky Fried if you realise that you are munching on a bucket of dinosaur drumsticks.
And the Soviets showcase the glorious first, satellite, animal, human in space and there is no fraud under capitalism.
Go to a supermarket and look at the freezer with bottled water in it. Pay special attention to the imported brands. In most of the developed world tap water is of similar or better quality as bottled water, and yet people pay for imported bottled water. The only difference is that the Capitalists were usually better at swindling you that the Soviets.
Where the Soviets showcase the glorious developments of Russian ingenuity in an international display of new appliances, where they demo a potato peeling machine. Demonstrating it to the politburo, the inventor picks up a potato from a bucket, throws it into the machine and a few seconds of working very quietly later, a peeled potato is thrown out of the machine. An apparatchik is overwhelmed with joy, takes the bucket and dumps it into the machine, which prompts a rustling and a small door opens where an old babushka looks out and cries "Please, not so many, I'm alone this week".
There's lots of jokes like that: A Russian goes to a watchmaker and hands him a broken pocket watch. The watchmaker opens it up, peers into the watch with a magnifier and then pulls a dead flea out of the mechanism. The Russian lights up and says: "Ah! I understand, the engineer is dead!"
Slashdot Mirror
Elections have consequences. If the people chose to vote for people that will do this to them then that is their choice. If the people who live in Fla fail to go out and vote for the people that wants to do something about this rather than the people who calls it a hoax and refuse to deal with the miners then that is their choice. In all circumstances it's the people's choice. Bottom line people vote or refuse to vote and they get what they get.
...they get what they ask for.
The "blame anyone one but apple". Classic!
You are seriously trying to convince me that Samsung recalling millions of phones because they explode and a few incompetent repair people and a guy in China biting a battery made iPhones explode is the same thing because what? ... because Apple == Satan? ... because, well ... uuuuuhhhhh ....Android is better and that's gospel? Now that's classic.
Too late.
https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/iphone-explosion-las-vegas/
https://9to5mac.com/2018/11/14...
https://www.thestate.com/news/...
I could keep going down the google search results, but I'm sure you get the point.
Really? did you read those articles? The first one looks like a 3rd party fixit shop who may or may not have installed a new battery incorrectly. Here are some of the shinier nuggets from the other two:
In all the weird ways people destroy their phones, O’Neal said, he’s yet to come across someone whose battery blew up in their pocket.
“We’ve definitely seen phones that have been shot with BB guns, phones ran over and ones severely bent,” O’Neal says. “Even in all those cases, the battery did not explode or ignite.”
While phone-battery explosions are rare, they do occur. In January, an Apple store in Zurich, Switzerland, had to be evacuated after a worker at the store attempted to extract a battery from an iPhone, according to a CNN story.
I positively love this one, a classic case of 'replace user':
Also in January, an iPhone battery blew up in a man’s face when he bit into it in an electronics store in China. Newsweek reported on the incident.
Thanks for those links, I laughed my ass off while reading the last one.
Too late.
https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/iphone-explosion-las-vegas/ https://9to5mac.com/2018/11/14... https://www.thestate.com/news/...
I could keep going down the google search results, but I'm sure you get the point.
FAKE NEWS!!!!
There, you've revealed your strong bias. Your earlier comment left it uncertain that you are an Apple cultist.
There, you've revealed your strong bias. Your earlier comment left it uncertain that you are an Android cultist.
Well, Samsung did just demo a folding smartphone... Maybe Apple is just trying to get ahead of them.
So long as they don't copy Samsung's exploding smartphone I'm happy.
If normal, why did bending not appear on older models?
I've owned well over a dozen aluminium chassis devices from laptops to tablets and phones but I've never bothered to check one for absolute straightness and as-advertised dimensions with a ruler and calipers. Have you?
No but I do regularly put my devices on hard flat surfaces which would clearly reveal any slight bends.
If normal, why did bending not appear on older models?
I've owned well over a dozen aluminium chassis devices from laptops to tablets and phones but I've never bothered to check one for absolute straightness and as-advertised dimensions with a ruler and calipers. Have you?
No but I do regularly put my devices on hard flat surfaces which would clearly reveal any slight bends.
...and I follow the philosophy of putting my devices into a $20 cover to keep the $800 tablet from being damaged by falling or getting knocked into things so I tend not to notice (or care) whether there is a 0.5 mm bend in the device when I lay it down on a perfectly flat table top.
If normal, why did bending not appear on older models?
Who says it didn't appear on older models? I've owned well over a dozen aluminium chassis devices from laptops to tablets and phones but I've never bothered to check one for absolute straightness and as-advertised dimensions with a ruler and calipers. Have you?
Oh right. They wouldn't just throw you in fail for not paying taxes.
They can't throw everybody in 'fail'.
It's a violation of debians CoCk? Why are debian allowed cock jokes but these guys aren't allowed boob jokes?
Because only Americans could become concerned about the potential for harassment in Debian software package names and Americans are a strange people who get psychologically scarred for life if they see a nipple on TV but have no problems taking their kids to see a movie about a Jewish guy being tortured and then nailed to a cross?
I don't really care whose plastic this is, it is affecting my life
No, it is not affecting your life. News about far away places is not about you. You aren't the center of the universe.
Oh all knowing one I must beg to differ. Numerous studies have shown that micro and nano plastics are present in every major food group consumed in my neck of the woods so, this really is a problem that affects me even if the vast majority of the plastic in my food comes from other countries.
I'm in favour of doing something about this problem
Bullying people in the US and Europe doesn't affect "this problem" in any way.
WTF are you talking about? Are you one of those whiny little Trumpist bitches that can't shut up about how 'unfairly' 'persecuted' they are by every body and every thing? Don't you people ever get tired of being a victim?
Sure, but how much military strength is enough?
Of course this is like asking a billionaire how much wealth is enough. There is never enough!
Isn't it ironic that the supposedly anti-tax party is also the one that supports an expensive military?
You tell me, one US carrier task force and a couple of marine divisions have enough firepower to defeat something like 80-90% of the armies on earth.
We re losing jobs because China and other countries tolerate working conditions, environmental transgressions, and things that would never fly in the US. You CANNOT pick up a Chinese steel plant, drop it in Ohio, and operate it at the same level of profit as you can in China, even taking into account the wages and cost of materials. THAT is why US manufacturers go there. Some people say we have outsourced jobs. What we really outsourced was the pollution and working conditions that would never be tolerated in the U.S. Which begs the question: If it's not OK to manufacture things in the US under these conditions, then why is it OK to do so in China? If we import these items, are we not even a little bit morally responsible for the misery and pollution inflicted while creating these things?
Wrong, we are losing jobs because they are gone. Today it takes 20 hours of human labor to build a car, in 1980 it was over 100. So most of the auto workers are gone. Not coming back. Ever.
No, in actual fact you are both right. There are fewer jobs of US auto workers today than there were in the 1980s because of increasing automation. Come to think of it there were fewer jobs for auto workers in the US in 1980 than there were in 1950 because of automation, so, nothing new there. However,US companies are also outsourcing work to places like China because in China you can treat workers like crap and pollute at will. I know it is really tempting to simplify your world view by pointing at one factor as the driving force behind complex changes driven by multiple factors and proclaim that you have somehow solved the problem and you are certainly free to cling to that delusion if it floats your boat but there is no reason to be a dick about it.
Something useful to know when assholes want to ban things in the US and Europe: it's not your plastic.
Say no to zealots and totalitarians.
I don't really care whose plastic this is, it is affecting my life so I'm in favour of doing something about this problem. Nobody ever put out a forest fire threatening to burn down his house by sitting on his ass and thinking: "I don't care, I didn't light this fire".
do you really think China wants to get into a war with the US? all of the money they generate making stuff will go away. that would be cutting their hands off to spite their face
What makes you think that all the players on the Chinese are rational actors who make rational decisions and that there are no war hawks on the Chinese side? Or as Eisenhower pointed out: "Wars are stupid and they can start stupidly," ... and that stupidity is usually born of nationalism and patriotic fever.
A tax on a corporation is a tax on its customers, not on its owners. The costs are always passed along. Not that I cry any tears for marketeers buying ads, either.
Fortunately for us in the US, bills of attainder are unconstitutional. You can't just tax someone you don't like, or because they have money. That was one of the specific things that led to the Revolutionary War (though the event that kicked it off was attempted confiscation of "assault weapons", as we'd call them today).
They are not going after Google because Google is an American company that they don’t like. They are going after these corporations because they use public services but contribute next to nothing in return and what little they do pay in taxes they pay iin tax shelters and not the county where the profit is made. Critics of corporate taxation in the US have the exact same complaints of these same corporations over the same shenanigans.
Only 23% in Europe? My company in the netherlands has to pay around 40% in taxes on profit, only foreign companies that wish to setup a company in the netherlands get to pay less taxes.
I think the 23% is an average after all loop holes and tax avoidance schemes have been taken into account. Another thing to consider is that the large majority of companies are smaller companies who do not have the resources to avoid taxes like Google/Amazon/Facebook/Apple and the likes can so they pull this average up. The big players pay way less taxes than small to medium businesses because they, unlike the little guys, can afford to hire entire financial services companies who dedicate themselves 24/7 to help the likes of Google to dodge taxes. I've heard figures of Google and friends paying as little as 2-3% effective taxes in the US.
France seem to be literally broke, first carbon tax, that didn't work because people started yellow vest moment, well lets tax google and wholesale has money. Some serious desperation, Macrone and his grandma are marching to the guillotine
Google and the rest of these digital giants pay a 9.5 percent effective tax in the EU compared to 23.2 percent for traditional businesses. They can squeal all they want but a hike of 3% is not going to make me cry any rivers over Google's pain. I pay way more than a measly 9.5% of my income into the state's coffers. Counting indirect taxes, tolls and fees the state takes around half of my income in one form or another.
We may be seeing Microsoft getting a taste of its own medicine.
Satisfying as that may be, it still change Google into a bunch of hymn singing angels.
Chunk Norris was born in March 1940. By 1942, all dinosaurs besides birds were extinct[1].
[1] This is probably only because Chuck Norris wasn't able to fly yet at age 2.
Chuck Norris is a demigod: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
The dinosaurs died out roughly 70 million years ago (except for birds).
I was watching this documentary about feathered dinosaurs. It had an interview with a Chinese Palaeontologist who has done a lot of work on feathered dinosaurs and specifically the feathered raptors that evolved into birds. At the end he terminated the film by excusing himself to the interviewer because his wife had asked him to buy a dinosaur for dinner on his way home. The documentary ended with a shot of him heading home from the market carrying a chicken. It puts a whole new perspective on going to Kentucky Fried if you realise that you are munching on a bucket of dinosaur drumsticks.
That is a nasty slash to the throat of America's credibility, and the blood sprays onto Canada.
How long until Trump starts calling himself the Generalissimo and wearing ridiculous outfits?
Feast your eyes: https://imincorrigible.files.w...
And the Soviets showcase the glorious first, satellite, animal, human in space and there is no fraud under capitalism.
Go to a supermarket and look at the freezer with bottled water in it. Pay special attention to the imported brands. In most of the developed world tap water is of similar or better quality as bottled water, and yet people pay for imported bottled water. The only difference is that the Capitalists were usually better at swindling you that the Soviets.
Where the Soviets showcase the glorious developments of Russian ingenuity in an international display of new appliances, where they demo a potato peeling machine. Demonstrating it to the politburo, the inventor picks up a potato from a bucket, throws it into the machine and a few seconds of working very quietly later, a peeled potato is thrown out of the machine. An apparatchik is overwhelmed with joy, takes the bucket and dumps it into the machine, which prompts a rustling and a small door opens where an old babushka looks out and cries "Please, not so many, I'm alone this week".
There's lots of jokes like that: A Russian goes to a watchmaker and hands him a broken pocket watch. The watchmaker opens it up, peers into the watch with a magnifier and then pulls a dead flea out of the mechanism. The Russian lights up and says: "Ah! I understand, the engineer is dead!"
Can he spread fake news, like a real Russian bot?
Yes and he has a built-in money laundering machine.