Apple has been so intent on totally locking the iPhone that you *have* to use iTunes just to use the damn thing. They through the anti-DRM a small bone with DRM free iTunes, but in almost every other area they show an almost manic desire to maintain total control over their hardware and software.
This surprises me just a little. How hard could it be to port iTunes to Vista x64?
The list of reasons I didn't and won't buy an iPhone anytime soon keep growing. No, not this one specifically as I'm not running Vista x64, but the overall arrogance Apple shows routinely plays a part.
This isn't anwhere near as evil as collecting user's browsing data or cooperating with Chinese censorship. They are offering companies a PR service. I hope you're not saying that it's wrong to counter propaganda? That's all Moore's 'documentaries' are really, even when he makes good points (which isn't all that often).
If I were still an AT&T customer that would acutally anger me, since it shows that they had the capability to offer more bandwidth and just didn't until the iPhone was about to hit. I'm glad I'm not though, AT&T/Cingular has the worst service out of all the major providers. I still can't fathom why Apple chose to go exclusively with one provider. The lack of 3G and the fact that the only provider carrying it is one I'll never, ever do business with again are both dealbreakers for me.
How did you get modded up for that troll? My Q lasts many hours with EVDO usage, and automatically falls back in areas where it's not supported. Seriously, 45 minutes? And people believed you and modded you up?
We had different experiences then, because I ran all of my DOS and Windows stuff just fine with very, very few exceptions. You sound like you are either trolling or you didn't really understand the system. You also didn't read what many analysts at the time said about the good Windows compatability hurting OS/2 native application development.
Bad marketing killed it but lack of applications helped, and Win-OS2 was a part of that total equation.
OS/2's great Windows 3.1 (and Win 32s) support was one of the reasons it died. There was little incentive for developers at the time to write native OS/2 applications. Of course, shoddy marketing by IBM was the main culprit, but Win-OS/2 was considered to be a big reason that no real killer apps were made for OS/2.
No, they got that attitude because parents in my generation don't parent anymore. Most of the coddle and spoil, rather than discipline, their kids because it's 'easier'. It has nothing to do with the 'digital world' and everything to do with bad parenting.
I'd mod you insightful if I had points. It has little to do with growing up with digital technology, and everything to do with the 'me want it NOW' mentality that a large number of today's youth have.
I'm 40 and started messing with home computers and BBS's when I was around ten. I guess that makes me a naturalized digital citizen and not a digital native, but still...
Population growth in 'developed' nations is at or near zero, in some cases declining. Prosperity seems to be one of the best measures ever found for population control. It's mostly in the 'third world' areas that populations are still exploding. Read what he wrote again. He didn't say our world, he said the developed world.
Because the submitter was pedantic like a large number of slashdotters. This wasn't even good pedantry in this case though.
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My local ATM was never down when they had the old text mode OS/2 version running. They replaced it two years ago with a CE embedded (I think) Diebold machine and that one is down at least once a week.
They used to use SNA (LU 6.2 as I recall, but it's been a long time). That was when most ATM's, at least here in the States, ran OS/2 and talked to Mainframes. Now most of them run embedded CE or other OSes, and I'm not sure if they are still using SNA or have switched to IP.
The affliction is called 'addiction' and can be caused by or fixated on any number of things. There is absolutely no reason for yet another flavor of addiction to be spelled out.
This does remind me of a funny thing I read years ago. It was an article about Internet addction written by a psych professor. The punch line was the link to the online support group. Online support group...for Internet addicts. Isn't that like having an AA meeting at a keg party?
If I run a website I'll put content out any damn way I please. This is a load of crap, regardless of who they are and what format they are objecting to.
Actually your analogy is what is asinine. A plaintext email is inside an easy to open envelope, but opening that envelope if you're not the intended recipient should still be against the law just as it is with snail mail.
That being said I agree that people should use encryption. It just makes sense. You however need to get off that high horse you're riding.
I read that review too and that was my first thought until I used my Q for a few weeks. I have Exchange pushing email, I do some web browsing (amazingly fast with EVDO by the way!) and use a couple of POP 3 mailboxes. I get over 4 hours talk time most days, and given my routine use I have no problem making it through the average workday. No, it's not 8, but I'll also believe that figure when I see real world numbers.
I notice their chart doesn't compare the bandwidth of the various phones. That and the need to use 2 hands is why I won't touch an iPhone in it's current incarnation.
Still, I would expect a chart put out by Nokia to target things that make their phones look good, or a chart from Samsung to be tailored in favor of Samsung. This is just marketing fluff at this point. The proof will be when people actually have the things in their hands and start using them.
I can't use wi-fi in many of the places that I travel, yet EVDO provided by Sprint via my Motorola Q gets really good data rates at rest areas and many of the places I travel where I cannot use wi-fi.
If anyone tries to tell me that wi-fi coverage is somehow more complete in the US than 'wireless broadband' then I'd love to sell them a bridge.
Crippled data rates do not a revolutionary device make. Apple would have been *far* better off making the initial iPhone a 3G phone and forgoing the wi-fi if necessary. That's just my opinion, but it's the main reason I won't buy one. The second reason is I can use my Q with one hand, doesn't look like that's an easy thing to do with the iPhone.
I'm not predicting the downfall and failure of the iPhone, but I don't think it will be a smashing success in it's initial offering.
Yes, and unfortunately both major political parties are in the pocket of business interests who want to keep it that way. I will and do pay more for things made in the US or in countries I consider more friendly to us, but by and large people will continue to buy at the lowest price point they can find, and our Government is willingly selling away the store, so to speak.
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Apple has been so intent on totally locking the iPhone that you *have* to use iTunes just to use the damn thing. They through the anti-DRM a small bone with DRM free iTunes, but in almost every other area they show an almost manic desire to maintain total control over their hardware and software.
This surprises me just a little. How hard could it be to port iTunes to Vista x64?
The list of reasons I didn't and won't buy an iPhone anytime soon keep growing. No, not this one specifically as I'm not running Vista x64, but the overall arrogance Apple shows routinely plays a part.
Except in this case you'd be wrong. Perhaps adding something substantive to the conversation next time instead of trolling would be in order.
This isn't anwhere near as evil as collecting user's browsing data or cooperating with Chinese censorship. They are offering companies a PR service. I hope you're not saying that it's wrong to counter propaganda? That's all Moore's 'documentaries' are really, even when he makes good points (which isn't all that often).
If I were still an AT&T customer that would acutally anger me, since it shows that they had the capability to offer more bandwidth and just didn't until the iPhone was about to hit. I'm glad I'm not though, AT&T/Cingular has the worst service out of all the major providers. I still can't fathom why Apple chose to go exclusively with one provider. The lack of 3G and the fact that the only provider carrying it is one I'll never, ever do business with again are both dealbreakers for me.
How did you get modded up for that troll? My Q lasts many hours with EVDO usage, and automatically falls back in areas where it's not supported. Seriously, 45 minutes? And people believed you and modded you up?
Thank you. I was about to post this. You should be +5 Insightful.
These numbers tell us exactly nothing. The sample group is WAY too small.
We had different experiences then, because I ran all of my DOS and Windows stuff just fine with very, very few exceptions. You sound like you are either trolling or you didn't really understand the system. You also didn't read what many analysts at the time said about the good Windows compatability hurting OS/2 native application development.
Bad marketing killed it but lack of applications helped, and Win-OS2 was a part of that total equation.
According to Netcraft it's running Linux ;)
64.28.79.84 Linux Apache/2.0.46 Unix PHP/4.3.3 13-Mar-2007
OS/2's great Windows 3.1 (and Win 32s) support was one of the reasons it died. There was little incentive for developers at the time to write native OS/2 applications. Of course, shoddy marketing by IBM was the main culprit, but Win-OS/2 was considered to be a big reason that no real killer apps were made for OS/2.
Penguins *are* predators you know, but maybe 'waddled the plains of Peru' would have been more apt.
No, they got that attitude because parents in my generation don't parent anymore. Most of the coddle and spoil, rather than discipline, their kids because it's 'easier'. It has nothing to do with the 'digital world' and everything to do with bad parenting.
I'd mod you insightful if I had points. It has little to do with growing up with digital technology, and everything to do with the 'me want it NOW' mentality that a large number of today's youth have.
I'm 40 and started messing with home computers and BBS's when I was around ten. I guess that makes me a naturalized digital citizen and not a digital native, but still...
Population growth in 'developed' nations is at or near zero, in some cases declining. Prosperity seems to be one of the best measures ever found for population control. It's mostly in the 'third world' areas that populations are still exploding. Read what he wrote again. He didn't say our world, he said the developed world.
Because the submitter was pedantic like a large number of slashdotters. This wasn't even good pedantry in this case though.
My local ATM was never down when they had the old text mode OS/2 version running. They replaced it two years ago with a CE embedded (I think) Diebold machine and that one is down at least once a week.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
They used to use SNA (LU 6.2 as I recall, but it's been a long time). That was when most ATM's, at least here in the States, ran OS/2 and talked to Mainframes. Now most of them run embedded CE or other OSes, and I'm not sure if they are still using SNA or have switched to IP.
The affliction is called 'addiction' and can be caused by or fixated on any number of things. There is absolutely no reason for yet another flavor of addiction to be spelled out.
This does remind me of a funny thing I read years ago. It was an article about Internet addction written by a psych professor. The punch line was the link to the online support group. Online support group...for Internet addicts. Isn't that like having an AA meeting at a keg party?
If I run a website I'll put content out any damn way I please. This is a load of crap, regardless of who they are and what format they are objecting to.
Here I thought P2P was a class of applications, you know, ones that communicate peer to peer.
WTF. We can't even blame editors for this crap anymore, because they gave us the Firehose.
Actually your analogy is what is asinine. A plaintext email is inside an easy to open envelope, but opening that envelope if you're not the intended recipient should still be against the law just as it is with snail mail.
That being said I agree that people should use encryption. It just makes sense. You however need to get off that high horse you're riding.
Show us the patents. Enough said.
I read that review too and that was my first thought until I used my Q for a few weeks. I have Exchange pushing email, I do some web browsing (amazingly fast with EVDO by the way!) and use a couple of POP 3 mailboxes. I get over 4 hours talk time most days, and given my routine use I have no problem making it through the average workday. No, it's not 8, but I'll also believe that figure when I see real world numbers.
I notice their chart doesn't compare the bandwidth of the various phones. That and the need to use 2 hands is why I won't touch an iPhone in it's current incarnation.
Still, I would expect a chart put out by Nokia to target things that make their phones look good, or a chart from Samsung to be tailored in favor of Samsung. This is just marketing fluff at this point. The proof will be when people actually have the things in their hands and start using them.
Currently laughable != Impossible
My money is on Hawking.
I can't use wi-fi in many of the places that I travel, yet EVDO provided by Sprint via my Motorola Q gets really good data rates at rest areas and many of the places I travel where I cannot use wi-fi.
If anyone tries to tell me that wi-fi coverage is somehow more complete in the US than 'wireless broadband' then I'd love to sell them a bridge.
Crippled data rates do not a revolutionary device make. Apple would have been *far* better off making the initial iPhone a 3G phone and forgoing the wi-fi if necessary. That's just my opinion, but it's the main reason I won't buy one. The second reason is I can use my Q with one hand, doesn't look like that's an easy thing to do with the iPhone.
I'm not predicting the downfall and failure of the iPhone, but I don't think it will be a smashing success in it's initial offering.
Yes, and unfortunately both major political parties are in the pocket of business interests who want to keep it that way. I will and do pay more for things made in the US or in countries I consider more friendly to us, but by and large people will continue to buy at the lowest price point they can find, and our Government is willingly selling away the store, so to speak.