And what if the song you like isn't a single? There are plenty of albums where I like one tune, but it's never played on the radio. It isn't profitable to sell it as a single, so I can never listen to it.
Every album that I own (and I own a large number) is full of songs that I DO like. I just don't buy those that have one good song. I never did before mp3's existed either. So basically, it comes down to whether the artist is really an artist, or is in it for the money.
That's normally not a problem, because those that are in it for the money suck anyway. Why should I support someone who can't write 10 good songs? Maybe they should quit their day job.
commodity (k-md-t) n., Something useful that can be turned to commercial or other advantage.
Last time I checked, using Napster was free. Metallica is the party making the work into a commodity, as they are selling it. Art, historically, is something that is meant to bring enjoyment to the masses.
Personally, I love it when my fans copy my tapes and CD's. I look at it as a compliment. Granted, I don't sell them in the first place. I do think that someone wanting to hear my music is more important than money.
ok, where did that article come from?! To me, it's obviously a joke. I couldn't find anything on the page showing that it would be a conspiracy theory type magazine though. Family Digest? Huh? What up with this?
No doubt! I for one am looking forward to it. It's a much better idea than terraserver. I'm wondering exactly how much will be available though. I'm assuming all the pictures will be pretty sterile. I wonder if we'll actually be able to see high quality nebula photos and such. Now that would be cool.
Actually, not necessarily. You could discover something new just by comparing the images to current star charts. If the *current* charts don't show it, it's possible that you've found something new. Of course, I don't know how often publicly available charts are updated.
The method you're referring to, AFAICT, is what one would use to find moving objects. For instance, that is the way they found the Shoemaker-Levy comet. It involves taking three frames of red blue and green and overlaying them on top of each other. Stationary objects will show up as white, moving objects will show up as three colors.
ok, I do agree with most everything that Jon said above. I especially like the reference to The Wave. But something struck me as odd. Jon, you said you don't understand the reasoning in having students report their fellow students.
This is one thing that does make sense. When you were a kid, how often did you talk to you parents about your life? I was reasonably close to my parents, but they still didn't know anything about me. The same goes for teachers, etc. My friends were the only ones who knew I was a pyro at heart. My friends were the only ones who knew about my depression. And don't underestimate a young person's abilities to see psychological warning signs. My friends, the ones who knew, were the reason that I didn't do anything really wrong. They noticed that I had a need, and helped.
Don't get me wrong, I completely agree that WAVE is a horrible idea. To accept anonymous reporting and not take resposibility for the disemination of that information is just stupid.
Actually, I think the dramatic drop in child violence has to do more with kids helping kids than anything. Whether we like it or not, kids will not seriously go to adults for most of their problems. They will talk about it with close friends, and get over it. Maybe we shouldn't concentrate so much on identifying these kids as we should on helping all kids understand basic psychology.
Not only will they be able to help fellow students, but they will lead more fullfilling lives.
Just becasue you have an "instant-on" PC doesn't mean your OS has to be stupid. Just leave in the normal boot-up ability.
Why not just make MRAM a boot option in your BIOS? It knows to look for anything in MRAM that isn't 0. If there are any 1's, it boots from memory. Then, just implement a button on the front of the case, similar to reset. When you push it, after a crash, it resets all bits in MRAM to 0. When you power on your system, the thing can't boot straight from memory, so it defaults to your first IDE device.
um, as many have pointed out, this isn't entrapment. Your 'firm' could even be a law enforcement agency and the cracker STILL couldn't claim entrapment. The reason being: you aren't openly trying to get anyone to break the law. Your server is there, it's the cracker's choice whether to target it or not.
Don't let the AC get to you about Tesla. You're exactly right, IMHO.
The 'electricity pump' worked off of some wierd chain reaction that it set up in the earth. I required an enormous amount of current, but it did work. He was even able to control the points around the globe that this energy got most concentrated. Basically, to get power, you need to tune your system to work on the same frequency of the geo-power system. Seems a lot like networking to me.:)
I don't know.. maybe not, but it would really be an interesting experiment.
maybe you should actually know what you're talking about before you make such sweeping assumptions.
Tesla was looked at as a "crazy man" in later life because of his genius. Just like many of the other genius minds of the world, he wasn't appreciated. When his money holders found out that he wanted to make a free energy source for the world, they withdrew the money. When his money ran out, he had to pursuade his workers to stay and work in spite of not getting paid. This, of course, didn't last long.
Personally, if I was working on an invention with such far reaching capabilities, and my money ran out short of being able to demonstrate it's use... I think I'd go a bit "crazy" too. How about you?
The point is, he wasn't actually "crazy", he was simply stretched to breaking point. It can happen to anyone, and it's a tragedy that it happens most to strong minds.
I'm quite deeply into BEAM robotics. You probably know, but it has to do with using a simplistic approach to circuits in order to form a kind of neural network that processes can propogate across. It's also based heavily on analog circuits.
Do you see AI and simple analog circuits as being the way to go? Basically, the brain is an enormous analog system, and it's the analog processing that partly causes creative thinking. I'm dealing with simple circuits that consist of a few transistors forming neurons which are linked together to form very complex behavior based on their nervous system. It is all reliant on the external stimuli that is connected in to the circuit.
If thousands or even millions of these neurons could be connected to form an even larger network, wouldn't you get a higher form of AI than you would using digital circuits?
See, I agree.. but I'm not sure about your analogy.
The reason this works with students is that they can give each other dirty looks until those responsible start changing. But on IRC things are just too anon. Somebody in #meaninglesschat isn't going to care about, much less pressure, some kiddie in the adjacent room.
I do think it'll annoy the kiddies, but I'm not sure what the outcome will be. They might see the error of their ways (ya, that could happen) or they could retaliate.
Well, take that scenario, and insert club instead of house. Someone comes to town who regulars your club but also hurts it. Your club is one of the best in the world. They could go somewhere else, but don't want to. So close your doors.
Well.. ya. I mean, the kiddies responsible for DDoS use IRC. They probably use it more than me. So it kinda sends them a message about what they're doing.
They have this facination with annoying and causing others inconvenience. So why not give it right back? I know it affects others too, but 1 day isn't that bad. Personally, I hope it happens some more.
DDoS is really a stupid thing to do. The kiddies need to grow up. I wish this would help... I tend to think it won't have a huge impact though.
I realize that the main idea is to make a network that's kind of anonymous in location... but where are you actually physically locating the servers?
I'm just curious about what laws you are actually under. I mean, we DID have the comments the other day about using Mir for a location out of international laws... but unless you have some major contributions in hand, that's not an option. So how can you legally get around having lawyers knock down your door?
Don't get me wrong, I think freenet is a great idea. It's just hard to see how it could possibly get off the ground with all of the laws it's going against.
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This is a little late, but I wanted to say it anyway. The others touched on your false reasoning about Microsoft's 'public service', but something else bothered me.
You compared Cisco and Intel to Microsoft. Intel, yes, I understand. Cisco? Hardly. While Cisco has an absolutely enormous share of the world's network traffic, they have a major difference from MS. When was the last time you had a Cisco router lock-up? I did once... turned out it was the telco's fault. The obvious reason I say this is because Cisco make *very* good equipment. Yes, they are huge. But they don't use that as an excuse to hike up prices and scrimp on reliability.
Simply, Cisco is where it is because of reputation. Microsoft is where it is because of wrongful business practices.
You can't justify their actions, no matter how hard you try.
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Whether they did something bad or not doesn't change the fact that you, me, the businesses we work for, the schools we go to, and just about everything around us is effected by Microsoft.
So you're saying we should all just roll over and accept this kind of behavior?
If Microsoft closed it's doors, I don't think we'd have another "great" depression. Just because they go away doesn't mean their software and all of their support people do. Companies would still run Windows for a while, and they'd still have support for it. (There are 250,000 MCSE's after all)
The thing is, if they in fact could cause a depression, there's something wrong. What does that say about our world? We rely THAT much on ONE company? That's a reason why there are now "baby-bells". To give one company that much power over the economy is just stupid. Hopefully, within a couple years, it'll be taken care of.
But I'm not even close to just closing my eyes and pretending they aren't doing anything wrong. And, well, maybe you shouldn't be either.
The Court has already found that the true impetus behind Microsoft's restrictions on OEMs was not its desire to maintain a somewhat amorphous quality it refers to as the "integrity" of the Windows platform, nor even to ensure that Windows afforded a uniform and stable platform for applications development. Microsoft itself engendered, or at least countenanced, instability and inconsistency by permitting Microsoft-friendly modifications to the desktop and boot sequence, and by releasing updates to Internet Explorer more frequently than it released new versions of Windows.
Oh yeah. You gotta love that. He almost sounds sarcastic!
ok, so Microsoft keeps saying they intend to appeal, but to where? From all that I've read, the judge's "Findings of Fact" was pretty far reaching... right? Not to mention, that his decision will be based on those facts. So if they appeal, couldn't the next court up just agree with the FoF and throw the case out?
I'm hoping someone with legal knowledge could answer this. It just seems like this case is to open to stay in appeals for 5 years.
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So I take it that you don't believe in God. Why?
Do you just find it too unlikely that a God exists? Do you assume that since you can't see God, God must be something that someone made up?
If this is the case, then you have no case. You are defending a 'scientific' belief on the basis of a very unlikely event. But you are at the same time condemning religion because of how unlikely the existence of a God is.
btw, you are missing the point of a miracle. It isn't the event that makes it a miracle... it's the timing.
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the truth may be hard to accept.
And the truth is..?
You are making the same mistake that many others are. You say that those who believe in God are blind to the "truth." But you have nothing to substantiate your truth. All you have are countless unproven theories.
I haven't read the book, but I think I understand where this guy is coming from. When you first delve into science, you are confronted with a lot of "proofs" against certain religious beliefs. You come to accept that if something can't be proven scientifically, it must not be. Either it doesn't exist, or a previous belief in it was wrong. But when you go farther than just basic scientific findings, you start seeing an order to things that doesn't make sense. You are then confronted with a huge array of odds. 'What are the chances that this thing I'm researching could come about without help?' If you are really honest with yourself, you realize that the odds are actually in favor of a consiousness being behind the universe.
Science has the basics down. But scientists are far from knowing everything. Just be careful not to go down the same road that you are busy condemning.
A blind belief in science is just as bad as a blind belief in religion.
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Gravitons are my choice for the most plausible. Everytime I hear the "bending space" theory, it just seems too cheesy.
I don't remember the name of it, but I read a book a couple years ago that made some awesome points. Basically, it just likened gravitons to magnetons. They work the same way.. the more mass an object has, the more gravitons are attracted to it and are flowing through it. But this also has something to do with string physics.
The thing is, if they mess up the ide header, how will they fix the machine when it's sent in for repair? The most reasonable use of the ide port is to hook up a drive with diag tools. This would also be the only way for them to reflash the bios. Well, short of removing it and replacing it, that is.
I ordered my i-opener on the 20th, and am still waiting for the order to get finished "processing". According to Netpliance, any unit shipped after the 20th will be a modified unit that is unhackable. The big question is, how have they modified it?
No customer service rep is talking. The general thought is that they have somehow sealed the case so that it isn't as easy to get into and attach an ide drive. There are *many* views about this. But I did hear that a sales rep said they haven't changed the unit at all.. just the company policies.
Still, considering the huge backlog on orders, I tend to think they must have done *something* to it besides modifying paperwork.
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And what if the song you like isn't a single? There are plenty of albums where I like one tune, but it's never played on the radio. It isn't profitable to sell it as a single, so I can never listen to it.
Every album that I own (and I own a large number) is full of songs that I DO like. I just don't buy those that have one good song. I never did before mp3's existed either. So basically, it comes down to whether the artist is really an artist, or is in it for the money.
That's normally not a problem, because those that are in it for the money suck anyway. Why should I support someone who can't write 10 good songs? Maybe they should quit their day job.
Don't commodities exact a price?
commodity (k-md-t) n., Something useful that can be turned to commercial or other advantage.
Last time I checked, using Napster was free. Metallica is the party making the work into a commodity, as they are selling it. Art, historically, is something that is meant to bring enjoyment to the masses.
Personally, I love it when my fans copy my tapes and CD's. I look at it as a compliment. Granted, I don't sell them in the first place. I do think that someone wanting to hear my music is more important than money.
ok, where did that article come from?! To me, it's obviously a joke. I couldn't find anything on the page showing that it would be a conspiracy theory type magazine though. Family Digest? Huh? What up with this?
No doubt! I for one am looking forward to it. It's a much better idea than terraserver. I'm wondering exactly how much will be available though. I'm assuming all the pictures will be pretty sterile. I wonder if we'll actually be able to see high quality nebula photos and such. Now that would be cool.
Actually, not necessarily. You could discover something new just by comparing the images to current star charts. If the *current* charts don't show it, it's possible that you've found something new. Of course, I don't know how often publicly available charts are updated.
The method you're referring to, AFAICT, is what one would use to find moving objects. For instance, that is the way they found the Shoemaker-Levy comet. It involves taking three frames of red blue and green and overlaying them on top of each other. Stationary objects will show up as white, moving objects will show up as three colors.
ok, I do agree with most everything that Jon said above. I especially like the reference to The Wave. But something struck me as odd. Jon, you said you don't understand the reasoning in having students report their fellow students.
This is one thing that does make sense. When you were a kid, how often did you talk to you parents about your life? I was reasonably close to my parents, but they still didn't know anything about me. The same goes for teachers, etc. My friends were the only ones who knew I was a pyro at heart. My friends were the only ones who knew about my depression. And don't underestimate a young person's abilities to see psychological warning signs. My friends, the ones who knew, were the reason that I didn't do anything really wrong. They noticed that I had a need, and helped.
Don't get me wrong, I completely agree that WAVE is a horrible idea. To accept anonymous reporting and not take resposibility for the disemination of that information is just stupid.
Actually, I think the dramatic drop in child violence has to do more with kids helping kids than anything. Whether we like it or not, kids will not seriously go to adults for most of their problems. They will talk about it with close friends, and get over it. Maybe we shouldn't concentrate so much on identifying these kids as we should on helping all kids understand basic psychology.
Not only will they be able to help fellow students, but they will lead more fullfilling lives.
Just becasue you have an "instant-on" PC doesn't mean your OS has to be stupid. Just leave in the normal boot-up ability.
Why not just make MRAM a boot option in your BIOS? It knows to look for anything in MRAM that isn't 0. If there are any 1's, it boots from memory. Then, just implement a button on the front of the case, similar to reset. When you push it, after a crash, it resets all bits in MRAM to 0. When you power on your system, the thing can't boot straight from memory, so it defaults to your first IDE device.
Makes sense to me.
um, as many have pointed out, this isn't entrapment. Your 'firm' could even be a law enforcement agency and the cracker STILL couldn't claim entrapment. The reason being: you aren't openly trying to get anyone to break the law. Your server is there, it's the cracker's choice whether to target it or not.
Don't let the AC get to you about Tesla. You're exactly right, IMHO.
:)
The 'electricity pump' worked off of some wierd chain reaction that it set up in the earth. I required an enormous amount of current, but it did work. He was even able to control the points around the globe that this energy got most concentrated. Basically, to get power, you need to tune your system to work on the same frequency of the geo-power system. Seems a lot like networking to me.
I don't know.. maybe not, but it would really be an interesting experiment.
maybe you should actually know what you're talking about before you make such sweeping assumptions.
Tesla was looked at as a "crazy man" in later life because of his genius. Just like many of the other genius minds of the world, he wasn't appreciated. When his money holders found out that he wanted to make a free energy source for the world, they withdrew the money. When his money ran out, he had to pursuade his workers to stay and work in spite of not getting paid. This, of course, didn't last long.
Personally, if I was working on an invention with such far reaching capabilities, and my money ran out short of being able to demonstrate it's use... I think I'd go a bit "crazy" too. How about you?
The point is, he wasn't actually "crazy", he was simply stretched to breaking point. It can happen to anyone, and it's a tragedy that it happens most to strong minds.
I'm quite deeply into BEAM robotics. You probably know, but it has to do with using a simplistic approach to circuits in order to form a kind of neural network that processes can propogate across. It's also based heavily on analog circuits.
Do you see AI and simple analog circuits as being the way to go? Basically, the brain is an enormous analog system, and it's the analog processing that partly causes creative thinking. I'm dealing with simple circuits that consist of a few transistors forming neurons which are linked together to form very complex behavior based on their nervous system. It is all reliant on the external stimuli that is connected in to the circuit.
If thousands or even millions of these neurons could be connected to form an even larger network, wouldn't you get a higher form of AI than you would using digital circuits?
See, I agree.. but I'm not sure about your analogy.
The reason this works with students is that they can give each other dirty looks until those responsible start changing. But on IRC things are just too anon. Somebody in #meaninglesschat isn't going to care about, much less pressure, some kiddie in the adjacent room.
I do think it'll annoy the kiddies, but I'm not sure what the outcome will be. They might see the error of their ways (ya, that could happen) or they could retaliate.
Well, take that scenario, and insert club instead of house. Someone comes to town who regulars your club but also hurts it. Your club is one of the best in the world. They could go somewhere else, but don't want to. So close your doors.
Well.. ya. I mean, the kiddies responsible for DDoS use IRC. They probably use it more than me. So it kinda sends them a message about what they're doing.
They have this facination with annoying and causing others inconvenience. So why not give it right back? I know it affects others too, but 1 day isn't that bad. Personally, I hope it happens some more.
DDoS is really a stupid thing to do. The kiddies need to grow up. I wish this would help... I tend to think it won't have a huge impact though.
I realize that the main idea is to make a network that's kind of anonymous in location... but where are you actually physically locating the servers?
I'm just curious about what laws you are actually under. I mean, we DID have the comments the other day about using Mir for a location out of international laws... but unless you have some major contributions in hand, that's not an option. So how can you legally get around having lawyers knock down your door?
Don't get me wrong, I think freenet is a great idea. It's just hard to see how it could possibly get off the ground with all of the laws it's going against.
This is a little late, but I wanted to say it anyway. The others touched on your false reasoning about Microsoft's 'public service', but something else bothered me.
You compared Cisco and Intel to Microsoft. Intel, yes, I understand. Cisco? Hardly. While Cisco has an absolutely enormous share of the world's network traffic, they have a major difference from MS. When was the last time you had a Cisco router lock-up? I did once... turned out it was the telco's fault. The obvious reason I say this is because Cisco make *very* good equipment. Yes, they are huge. But they don't use that as an excuse to hike up prices and scrimp on reliability.
Simply, Cisco is where it is because of reputation. Microsoft is where it is because of wrongful business practices.
You can't justify their actions, no matter how hard you try.
Whether they did something bad or not doesn't change the fact that you, me, the businesses we work for, the schools we go to, and just about everything around us is effected by Microsoft.
So you're saying we should all just roll over and accept this kind of behavior?
If Microsoft closed it's doors, I don't think we'd have another "great" depression. Just because they go away doesn't mean their software and all of their support people do. Companies would still run Windows for a while, and they'd still have support for it. (There are 250,000 MCSE's after all)
The thing is, if they in fact could cause a depression, there's something wrong. What does that say about our world? We rely THAT much on ONE company? That's a reason why there are now "baby-bells". To give one company that much power over the economy is just stupid. Hopefully, within a couple years, it'll be taken care of.
But I'm not even close to just closing my eyes and pretending they aren't doing anything wrong. And, well, maybe you shouldn't be either.
i. The OEM channel, paragraph 6.
The Court has already found that the true impetus behind Microsoft's restrictions on OEMs was not its desire to maintain a somewhat amorphous quality it refers to as the "integrity" of the Windows platform, nor even to ensure that Windows afforded a uniform and stable platform for applications development. Microsoft itself engendered, or at least countenanced, instability and inconsistency by permitting Microsoft-friendly modifications to the desktop and boot sequence, and by releasing updates to Internet Explorer more frequently than it released new versions of Windows.
Oh yeah. You gotta love that. He almost sounds sarcastic!
ok, so Microsoft keeps saying they intend to appeal, but to where? From all that I've read, the judge's "Findings of Fact" was pretty far reaching... right? Not to mention, that his decision will be based on those facts. So if they appeal, couldn't the next court up just agree with the FoF and throw the case out?
I'm hoping someone with legal knowledge could answer this. It just seems like this case is to open to stay in appeals for 5 years.
So I take it that you don't believe in God. Why?
Do you just find it too unlikely that a God exists? Do you assume that since you can't see God, God must be something that someone made up?
If this is the case, then you have no case. You are defending a 'scientific' belief on the basis of a very unlikely event. But you are at the same time condemning religion because of how unlikely the existence of a God is.
btw, you are missing the point of a miracle. It isn't the event that makes it a miracle... it's the timing.
the truth may be hard to accept.
And the truth is..?
You are making the same mistake that many others are. You say that those who believe in God are blind to the "truth." But you have nothing to substantiate your truth. All you have are countless unproven theories.
I haven't read the book, but I think I understand where this guy is coming from. When you first delve into science, you are confronted with a lot of "proofs" against certain religious beliefs. You come to accept that if something can't be proven scientifically, it must not be. Either it doesn't exist, or a previous belief in it was wrong. But when you go farther than just basic scientific findings, you start seeing an order to things that doesn't make sense. You are then confronted with a huge array of odds. 'What are the chances that this thing I'm researching could come about without help?' If you are really honest with yourself, you realize that the odds are actually in favor of a consiousness being behind the universe.
Science has the basics down. But scientists are far from knowing everything. Just be careful not to go down the same road that you are busy condemning.
A blind belief in science is just as bad as a blind belief in religion.
your loss.
Gravitons are my choice for the most plausible. Everytime I hear the "bending space" theory, it just seems too cheesy.
I don't remember the name of it, but I read a book a couple years ago that made some awesome points. Basically, it just likened gravitons to magnetons. They work the same way.. the more mass an object has, the more gravitons are attracted to it and are flowing through it. But this also has something to do with string physics.
Maybe someone else can clarify?
The thing is, if they mess up the ide header, how will they fix the machine when it's sent in for repair? The most reasonable use of the ide port is to hook up a drive with diag tools. This would also be the only way for them to reflash the bios. Well, short of removing it and replacing it, that is.
I ordered my i-opener on the 20th, and am still waiting for the order to get finished "processing". According to Netpliance, any unit shipped after the 20th will be a modified unit that is unhackable. The big question is, how have they modified it?
No customer service rep is talking. The general thought is that they have somehow sealed the case so that it isn't as easy to get into and attach an ide drive. There are *many* views about this. But I did hear that a sales rep said they haven't changed the unit at all.. just the company policies.
Still, considering the huge backlog on orders, I tend to think they must have done *something* to it besides modifying paperwork.