Like I said, not everyone wants to memorize useless formulas.
I guess we are debating over the utility of committing to memory a "formula" for tipping versus the inclusion of this sort of thing into a standard pocket reference or a PDA.
I cannot believe you are being so obstinate.
The original procedure that I gave for calculating a 15% tip is _more_ complicated than that of a 20% tip. Both of these theoretical calculations are more simple than the two examples I gave, more simple than accessing a PDA or reference book/table, and used many, many times over the course of many people's lives (especially those who are students in the US). This is the reason for educating the public about the utility of math. This is the point of tax dollars, to lubricate the machinery of the general populace.
Your two examples, "names" and "area codes", are completely different in scope.
MR. PINK: I don't tip because society says I gotta. I tip when somebody deserves a tip. When somebody really puts forth an effort, they deserve a little something extra. But this tipping automatically, that shit's for the birds. As far as I'm concerned, they're just doin their job.
Are you serious? I've tried to be accomodating but you are verging on ridiculous.
Is it complicated to both put on your shoe AND tie the laces?
Do you have a hard time closing the door to your car BEFORE starting the engine?
This is a two-step formula. One step is beyond trivial, the second is easy enough that a 6 year-old can perform it.
Why, oh why, are you continuing to discuss this as if it needs to be written into a book somewhere? It's simpler than calculating sales tax and that doesn't seem to be much of an issue as far as I know.
Well, that formula is very easy to "do" mentally for a given case. You just move the decimal point over one and add half again. It's not even worth digging into your pocket for the PDA.
If you don't look at it as a formula and rather a procedure then it becomes more apparent how easy it is. An example:
Dinner was $56.33
move the decimal over one to get: $5.63
add half again: $8.50
That's not what I intended. I just wanted to try and answer the question so that it wouldn't be asked of Alton Brown, since, for me, it seems that the answer would be predictable.
And if you do the system right...there are no leaks. I havent had a single leak in mine and its been running over a month.
I was going to say something stupid about your one month comment, then I remembered something.
The stupid part comes from me just recently (yesterday) coming back from a camping trip. After returning to my house and checking everything over for damages (and more and more) eventually I noticed that I had no idea how long my web/mail/ftp/etc server had been up for. I did an `uptime` on it and it was 6 months. That's pretty cool since I use that same machine for burning CD's, VNC, etc.
Your comment about 1 month without a "water leak" made me laugh because of this recent experience of mine.
Then I realized that we are talking about totally different things. Is a month a reasonable amount of time for a water-cooled system to not leak? I would want at least a couple of years, I'd think. The only reason I would buy water-cooling would be to use it with _multiple_ systems. This would mean that it would have to be air-tight past even the expected lifetime of a single processor.
In Kitchen Confidential, Bourdain spends a significant amount of time making the point that you can still cook fabulous food without having all of the accoutrements that one expects professional chefs to have access to. He explains in detail how much value can be wrought from a squeeze bottle, for example, as well as how often over the course of a day professional chefs rely on items which are easily accessible to the home chef. He also explains that the easiest way to make your home meals be like restaurant food is to not skimp on the fat in any way, shape, or form. Fat, added to recipes by butter, creams, etc, obviously, is not a piece of equipment.:)
Given this it would be surprising for him to then list all kinds of exotic equipment as necessary for the home kitchen.
It should be obvious that the main points which the two men are trying to express to the audience differ in their basic assumptions. Bourdain spends a lot of time and energy discounting overfancy preparations (apparently because he has been expected to do such things many times and feels it's all flash with little substance) whereas Brown aims to express novel things that you can try out at home while also teaching a bit about what cooking does (as far as affecting the ingredients and whatnot).
The differences in kitchen essentials is somewhat predictable from their different mottos, for Bourdain it's "All about the food." for Brown it's "All about the fun."
The most convincing reason that I've heard for not using hot water for consumption is that the water in the hot water plumbing is flushed less frequently. This, combined with the slightly warmer environment, allows for less sanitary conditions.
I don't hold too much stock in the hypothetical increased absorption rates of bad chemicals or whatever, it just seems to make more sense to me to take water from the line which is "running" as opposed to "stagnant".
I know that in my home, at least, we go through much more cold water than hot.
With a text config file you can go look at the files reported to be damaged, and it's pretty obvious if they're corrupt; they'd be truncated or garbled.
The apt package listing files can get pretty long. Usually one of the indicators of bad memory in our cheaper machines around where I work is errors in the apt file.:)
I totally agree. Macs have been like this since I owned a Mac Classic. I'm glad you brought that up, it makes me nostalgic.
Installing applications involved putting the disk in the drive and dragging and dropping it into a folder. Of course, why should it be any harder than that?
apt-get is easier, though. No disk involved. So, I guess we are getting somewhere after all.:)
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Like I said, not everyone wants to memorize useless formulas.
I guess we are debating over the utility of committing to memory a "formula" for tipping versus the inclusion of this sort of thing into a standard pocket reference or a PDA.
I cannot believe you are being so obstinate.
The original procedure that I gave for calculating a 15% tip is _more_ complicated than that of a 20% tip. Both of these theoretical calculations are more simple than the two examples I gave, more simple than accessing a PDA or reference book/table, and used many, many times over the course of many people's lives (especially those who are students in the US). This is the reason for educating the public about the utility of math. This is the point of tax dollars, to lubricate the machinery of the general populace.
Your two examples, "names" and "area codes", are completely different in scope.
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MR. PINK: I don't tip because society says I gotta. I tip when somebody deserves a tip. When somebody really puts forth an effort, they deserve a little something extra. But this tipping automatically, that shit's for the birds. As far as I'm concerned, they're just doin their job.
Are you serious? I've tried to be accomodating but you are verging on ridiculous.
Is it complicated to both put on your shoe AND tie the laces?
Do you have a hard time closing the door to your car BEFORE starting the engine?
This is a two-step formula. One step is beyond trivial, the second is easy enough that a 6 year-old can perform it.
Why, oh why, are you continuing to discuss this as if it needs to be written into a book somewhere? It's simpler than calculating sales tax and that doesn't seem to be much of an issue as far as I know.
It all depends on how you define "funnier".
Does 3000 chortles equal 10 ROFLs?
The 3000 chortles will net you more karma, but you may be aiming for the ROFLs.
My sig is basically the same as yours (btw, it's "I'm").
Well, that formula is very easy to "do" mentally for a given case. You just move the decimal point over one and add half again. It's not even worth digging into your pocket for the PDA.
:)
If you don't look at it as a formula and rather a procedure then it becomes more apparent how easy it is. An example:
Dinner was $56.33
move the decimal over one to get: $5.63
add half again: $8.50
Piece of cake, yet it's still algebra.
I would think that with a system containing fluids one month wouldn't be enough time, still. Gaskets can go bad, hoses can decay, etc.
*shrug*
Fun with editing:
... How about teaching kids to ... figure out a 15% or 20% tip.
Hmmm let me count the number of times I've needed algebra.....none.
(Cost of dinner) * 0.1 = x
x + x/2 = tip
That's how my grandmother does tips and she "never uses algebra" either.
I guess I am a moron for not figuring it out.
That's not what I intended. I just wanted to try and answer the question so that it wouldn't be asked of Alton Brown, since, for me, it seems that the answer would be predictable.
I wasn't implying anything about you.
And if you do the system right...there are no leaks. I havent had a single leak in mine and its been running over a month.
I was going to say something stupid about your one month comment, then I remembered something.
The stupid part comes from me just recently (yesterday) coming back from a camping trip. After returning to my house and checking everything over for damages (and more and more) eventually I noticed that I had no idea how long my web/mail/ftp/etc server had been up for. I did an `uptime` on it and it was 6 months. That's pretty cool since I use that same machine for burning CD's, VNC, etc.
Your comment about 1 month without a "water leak" made me laugh because of this recent experience of mine.
Then I realized that we are talking about totally different things. Is a month a reasonable amount of time for a water-cooled system to not leak? I would want at least a couple of years, I'd think. The only reason I would buy water-cooling would be to use it with _multiple_ systems. This would mean that it would have to be air-tight past even the expected lifetime of a single processor.
In Kitchen Confidential, Bourdain spends a significant amount of time making the point that you can still cook fabulous food without having all of the accoutrements that one expects professional chefs to have access to. He explains in detail how much value can be wrought from a squeeze bottle, for example, as well as how often over the course of a day professional chefs rely on items which are easily accessible to the home chef. He also explains that the easiest way to make your home meals be like restaurant food is to not skimp on the fat in any way, shape, or form. Fat, added to recipes by butter, creams, etc, obviously, is not a piece of equipment. :)
Given this it would be surprising for him to then list all kinds of exotic equipment as necessary for the home kitchen.
It should be obvious that the main points which the two men are trying to express to the audience differ in their basic assumptions. Bourdain spends a lot of time and energy discounting overfancy preparations (apparently because he has been expected to do such things many times and feels it's all flash with little substance) whereas Brown aims to express novel things that you can try out at home while also teaching a bit about what cooking does (as far as affecting the ingredients and whatnot).
The differences in kitchen essentials is somewhat predictable from their different mottos, for Bourdain it's "All about the food." for Brown it's "All about the fun."
The most convincing reason that I've heard for not using hot water for consumption is that the water in the hot water plumbing is flushed less frequently. This, combined with the slightly warmer environment, allows for less sanitary conditions.
I don't hold too much stock in the hypothetical increased absorption rates of bad chemicals or whatever, it just seems to make more sense to me to take water from the line which is "running" as opposed to "stagnant".
I know that in my home, at least, we go through much more cold water than hot.
Habaneros taste like shit, and so do habanero sauces.
You're funny. We grow habaneros in our garden and regularly use them to make salsas. They taste fantastic, if a bit potent for guests.
Habaneros are a wonderful little plant. And nicely colorful, too.
As for hundreds of years of no habaneros in sauces, aren't you neglecting the Mexican culture?
Did you try setting the last time the file was modified to the original time?
I don't know if that would work, but it would be an easy check that your fix wouldn't take care of.
Why so angry?
QT 2.x and 3.0.1 (I believe), required me to say "yes" before compiling the libraries.
Calm down.
Are you serious?
You can edit the licensing in a GUI app using a hex editor.
Use your head.
QT requires you to answer yes to the licensing questions before it will compile.
With a text config file you can go look at the files reported to be damaged, and it's pretty obvious if they're corrupt; they'd be truncated or garbled.
:)
The apt package listing files can get pretty long. Usually one of the indicators of bad memory in our cheaper machines around where I work is errors in the apt file.
Better than memtest86 in some cases.
I totally agree. Macs have been like this since I owned a Mac Classic. I'm glad you brought that up, it makes me nostalgic.
:)
Installing applications involved putting the disk in the drive and dragging and dropping it into a folder. Of course, why should it be any harder than that?
apt-get is easier, though. No disk involved. So, I guess we are getting somewhere after all.
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A rose is a rose
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