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This week's Slashdot interview guest is Alton Brown, host of the popular cable TV show Good Eats. This is a "reader request" interview in the wake of the surprisingly popular Slashdot review of Alton's book, I'm Just Here for the Food. Please post your questions below. we'll send 10 of the highest-moderated to Alton, and post his answers when we get them back.

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  1. Dear Mr Brown by TechSam · · Score: 1, Funny

    Are you available to come to my house to cook for me?

    1. Re:Dear Mr Brown by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dear Mr Brown,

      I send you this file in order to have your advice

  2. Iron Chef Showdown by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you and Emeril were doing battle in Kitchen Stadium, Who would win? ;-)

    1. Re:Iron Chef Showdown by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dear Mr Brown,

      What if Madonna was really singing about a virgin?

    2. Re:Iron Chef Showdown by spudnic · · Score: 5, Funny

      Emeril... He'd just copy exactly what the other guy did, then "kick it up a notch."

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    3. Re:Iron Chef Showdown by brutusbuck · · Score: 1

      If I had mod points today, you, sir, would get them all.

    4. Re:Iron Chef Showdown by dj28 · · Score: 2

      And then he would add "BAM!" for the final touch.

    5. Re:Iron Chef Showdown by questionlp · · Score: 1

      Not only that be he would annoy everyone else by mangling the recipe and mis-pronouncing each of the dishes' names and ingredients. He may also drive the Iron Chef nuts by using up all couple hundred cloves of garlic.

    6. Re:Iron Chef Showdown by Tackhead · · Score: 2
      > Not only that be he would annoy everyone else by mangling the recipe and mis-pronouncing each of the dishes' names and ingredients. He may also drive the Iron Chef nuts by using up all couple hundred cloves of garlic.

      He might drive the Iron Chef nuts by using 200 cloves of garlic.

      But he'd win.

      Garlic fucking rules.

      ObGarlic:
      1) One head of garlic. Maybe two. Peel.
      2) Slowly boil cloves in 4-5 cups of water. Add a bay leaf and some salt.
      3) Strain. Stash garlic in cheesecloth, and wring out.
      4) Return soup to a boil. Thicken and enrich with egg yolks.

      Eat. Eat well.

    7. Re:Iron Chef Showdown by questionlp · · Score: 1

      I'm not dissing garlic at all... I love garlic (along with hot peppers and sweet Walla Walla onions).

      I'll try the recipe out this weekend... once I get to the groceries and refill my garlic stash :)

    8. Re:Iron Chef Showdown by dasmegabyte · · Score: 2

      No way Alton would win. He never cooks ANYTHING in under an hour. It's all waiting...it's very Zen.

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    9. Re:Iron Chef Showdown by xTown · · Score: 1
      I went to a book signing that Anthony Bourdain did on his latest book tour. Some whiny lady in the audience asked "What do you have against Emeril?" given that he slags on Emeril a lot in "Kitchen Confidential".


      Bourdain says something like "I don't have anything against Emeril. I know a lot of people who have met Emeril, and they all say (phony French accent) 'Emeril ees a really nice guy; at one time, he used to be able to cook!'."


      It was hilarious; the Emeril fanatic got this pissed-off look on her face while everyone else laughed.

    10. Re:Iron Chef Showdown by Clock+Nova · · Score: 1

      Excuse me for asking this, but...

      Now, I'm a huge fan of the food network. I keep it on in my home constantly, and there are very few shows on it that I do not like ("From Martha's Kitchen" and "Hot Off the Grill with Bobby Flay" being two of those.)

      My favorite shows consist of Good Eats, Unwrapped, Food 911, The Best of, Extreme Cuisine, A Cook's Tour, Iron Chef, Malto Mario and, yes, Emeril Live.

      In my opinion, every star on the Food network has his or her place, and all have their strengths and weaknesses. What I want to know is this- why does everyone here seem to have a problem with Emeril? The man has done wonders for cooking shows and, for a long time, practically carried the Food Network. He's got skill, talent, knowledge, and, most of all, personality. If you think he couldn't take on any of the chefs on the Food Network, you'd be dead wrong. Personally, i'd love to see Emeril go tetê a tetê with Hiryuki Sakai, the Iron Chef French (my favorite of the four.) Perhaps Sakai would win, but it would be a hell of a battle. And there would be no "copying" on anyone's part.

      I'm a big fan of Emeril, yes. But I'm also a big fan of Alton, Tony, Mario, and Tyler.

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    11. Re:Iron Chef Showdown by schon · · Score: 1

      why does everyone here seem to have a problem with Emeril?

      I can't speak for everyone else, but MY personal problem is his (lack of) sanitary habits..

      I only once watched more than a snippet of his show, and never once did I see him wash his hands - after handling one dish, he rubbed his face and then proceeded to go right on working on another ingredient.

      It was enough to make me never want to eat anything he cooked.

      Every time since, when I catch him on FoodTV (which is tough to miss, since he's on pretty much ALL THE DAMN TIME), he's always bent over, six inches away from what he's making... now, maybe I'm overreacting.. maybe his spittle and breath are 'secret ingredients', but it's quite disturbing to watch.

    12. Re:Iron Chef Showdown by Clock+Nova · · Score: 1

      Actually, I have seen him use his sink many times. he even makes reference to it as the one that the "Sopranos" gave to him. And he always uses a clean utensil to sample his food, then promptly disposes of it. I have seen no evidence that he is unsanitary. Indeed, I find it difficult to believe that any true chef could be.

      I think that if you really pay attention to other chefs, you will see more than one of them do SOMETHING that you will find objectionable. Seriously, if you're concentrating on preparing a meal, talking to an audience, focusing on a television camera, and being entertaining, do you think you can remember every time you touch your face?

      If you want to see some sweat and spittle, try watching Iron Chef, particularly when Chen Kinichi is cooking. Now THAT man can SWEAT!

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    13. Re:Iron Chef Showdown by danablankenhorn · · Score: 1

      Alton did an episode on the "Iron Chef" theme, in which he showed how to make bacon. The "Iron Chef" won. Evidently, Alton thinks it's fixed.

    14. Re:Iron Chef Showdown by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wuss. If I told you what goes on in the back of restaurants you would never eat out again.

    15. Re:Iron Chef Showdown by BlackGriffen · · Score: 2

      You need to remember: for the most part the Food Network people are TV personalities. In fact, I can only think of three who are practicing chefs: Mario Batali, Jamie Oliver, and Bobby Flay. Jamie is probably too young and inexperienced (might have been a good match for Kobe). Mario, I think, is too used to laid back and time consuming cooking methods, though he'd probably surprise me. Bobby did battle Morimoto: lost in the U.S., won in Japan (on the novelty of tamales, and the panel's palettes rebelling at Morimoto's attempt to cook without soy sauce, it would seem to me). I really dislike Bobby for his egotistical attitude and lack of respect, and I'm embarrassed that an ass like him faced Morimoto. Sakai and probably Chen would have cleaned his clock, though. Not to mention Michiba San.

      At any rate, I remember an episode of "East Meets West" where Morimoto was guest starring. Ming mentioned that his fans were always asking him, "Why don't you go on Iron Chef?" and he said, "Because I don't like to lose."

      Don't get me wrong, Emeril might have been able to do something in his heyday, but he is definitely out of practice, and would not be capable of facing real chefs.

      BlackGriffen

    16. Re:Iron Chef Showdown by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      TV personalities. In fact, I can only think of three who are practicing chefs: Mario Batali, Jamie Oliver, and Bobby Flay.

      By "practicing", do you mean they are in the restaurant kitchen on a daily basis? Mario couldn't have been in the restaurant kitchen when he was traipsing around Italy with his dork buddy.

      I can tell you that Emeril's restaurants continue to be VERY popular.

    17. Re:Iron Chef Showdown by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What I want to know is this- why does everyone here seem to have a problem with Emeril?

      In Emeril Live, he grates on the nerves, and I just want to slap every audience member that cheers when he says "garlic" and "BAM".

      What's worse is that Wolfgang Puck has decided to imitate Emeril, and, boy, two words: pale shadow.

      As others have mentioned, Essence of Emeril is a great venue, though.

    18. Re:Iron Chef Showdown by will_die · · Score: 1

      What is even worse are the government regulation on how much foreign products can be in items such as bread, flour, peanut butter, etc. Do you think when they get a batch that is higher then is allowed that they throw it out? Nope you mix in a batch that has less to average them out.

    19. Re:Iron Chef Showdown by MaxVlast · · Score: 2

      Yea--that's the point of standards. Mixing in a cleaner batch makes it largely the same as the next batch down the line. If it doesn't make you sick and doesn't make it taste bad, what's the problem? People are always talking about chicken heads in McNuggets and cow eyes in hamburgers, but you know what? I don't much care. They taste good and I can reasonably rely on the FDA to make sure they won't kill me (or to tell me within a reasonable amount of time that I'm going to die from what I ate.)

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  3. Alton. by Winmac · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What would be the best way for someone to cook say late at night when he's just coding all he really can, but does not want to wake anyone up?

    I'm rather tired of bowls of corn flakes.

    Winmac.

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    1. Re:Alton. by scott1853 · · Score: 1

      How loud is your stove? I use these new fangled electric models. Do you have to chop wood for yours?

    2. Re:Alton. by seagis · · Score: 1


      Quick and easy (but only good if you like rice...)

      Take equal amounts of water and Minute Rice (one cup water/rice, two cups, et cetera - so long as you have the same amount of each.) Add one or two boullion cubes for every cup of water you use, and as soon as the water boils, throw in the rice. Remove from heat and put the lid on. After sitting for about five minutes or so, the water should be completely absorbed by the rice.

      Garnish with Tabasco, salt, pepper, naked sorority girls, etc.

    3. Re:Alton. by Goldberg's+Pants · · Score: 1

      Because we all have to eat, and Alton Brown is a GOD when it comes to food. His show is the only one I will watch re-runs of on the Food Network (fuck Iron Chef. Used to love it, now I find it dull.)

      Alton rules! It's really good to see I'm far from being the only geek who thinks so.

      Any guy who can make bacon in a scrapyard gets my vote!

    4. Re:Alton. by danablankenhorn · · Score: 1

      Try Quesadillas on a hot plate. Turn on the hot plate, put a pan on it, and after about 4 minutes (test it with a few drops of water -- if they sizzle you're good) lay down a few drops of oil (canola, vegetable, olive, whatever), then a flour tortilla (preferably a bit smaller than the pan), then the cheese, whatever cooked meat you like (ham, pepperoni, chicken), maybe a little chili powder for "bammage," then another flour tortilla. (Got something to cover the top of the pan? Good.) After about a minute, flip it and cook the other side. (You really just want to heat the cheese to gooey and brown the tortilla.) Tasty, fast, inexpensive, and filling.

    5. Re:Alton. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Garnish with Tabasco, salt, pepper, naked sorority girls, etc.


      Ouch, that could be hot. Better to use a nice Nekked & Petrified statuette instead.
    6. Re:Alton. by einhverfr · · Score: 2

      Actually, there is a very simple answer here-- cook whatever you want to, so long as you don{t need a blender. If it requires a lot of noisy stuff, plan ahead, and do that well before you actually cook, just like they do on tv shows ;)

      Additionally there are many of wonderful recipies (including many pasta sauces) which require little to no chopping, or at least not anything that noisy. And if you know how to chop right, it doesn't make that much noise. But if people complain, you can always pre-prep your food.

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  4. Where do you get all the cool gadgets... by TannerzDeath · · Score: 2, Interesting

    like the salt keeper, the plunger measuring cup, the trippy wisks...

    1. Re:Where do you get all the cool gadgets... by acl993 · · Score: 3, Informative

      The Good Eats Fan page (www.goodeatsfanpage.com) has a lot of information about the show, including the equipment Alton uses on the show. The url for the page is http://www.goodeatsfanpage.com/References/TheEquip ment.htm

      From there there are different pages for various types of items, including cook/bake ware, everyday equip., etc.

      Since www.goodeatsfanpage.com is going slow right now, you might try using this google search url (http://www.google.com/search?query=equipment%20si te%3Awww.goodeatsfanpage.com&num=10) and what you are looking for are the first few links.

    2. Re:Where do you get all the cool gadgets... by tmhsiao · · Score: 1

      Tannerz: I found both the salt keeper and the plunger measuring cup at the (horrendously overpriced) Container Store. Luckily, I had a coupon for 15% off.

      I think Alton sells salt-keepers off of his site, too.

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    3. Re:Where do you get all the cool gadgets... by HarvDog · · Score: 1

      TannerzDeath,

      You can also pick up the salt cellar at Crate and Barrel, if there's one near you or from their web site.

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    4. Re:Where do you get all the cool gadgets... by Some+Woman · · Score: 1

      The Pampered Chef sells many nifty gadgets, including the plunger measuring cup.

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    5. Re:Where do you get all the cool gadgets... by BamaSlam · · Score: 1

      Am I really such a "Good Eats" groupie that I've bought the plunger measuring cup.....ever since I saw it on his show I knew I had to have one. But then again, I've gotten a lot of good ideas on kitchen equipment from Good Eats

    6. Re:Where do you get all the cool gadgets... by Sputicus · · Score: 1
      See also:

      http://www.altonbrown.com/pages/shop.html

      Which unfortunately isn't selling any gadgets right now, but promisses to do so soon.

    7. Re:Where do you get all the cool gadgets... by Flounder · · Score: 2
      The Pampered Chef also rebrands everything and "kicks up the price a notch!".

      I got my Alton Brown wickedly cool timer with temperature probe from a local cookware store for $25.99, definitely less than the $39.00 that Pampered Chef was wanting.

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    8. Re:Where do you get all the cool gadgets... by gleam · · Score: 2

      alton is going to be selling his own plunger measuring cup eventually, but until then you can buy a 2-cup version at www.kitchenetc.com, which also probably has your trippy wisks.

      -gleam

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    9. Re:Where do you get all the cool gadgets... by Aurania · · Score: 1

      They also have the "salt cellar". Do a search for "condiment server". It's $12.99.

  5. Suggest a good recipe using an all beef hot dog. by bigweenie · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What is a decent way to serve up a hot dog, that is delicious, different and retains some of the barehandedness that makes so much of american cuisine so much fun!!!

  6. The Source... by hansendc · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I very rarely hear other cooking shows, critically analyze different cooking lore and legend. How did you start getting interested in the science behind cooking? Did you learn it just because it helps you makes better food, or have you been a long-time cooking geek? (see normal /. definition of geek) Do you use the Internet very extensively for research about the science of cooking?

    1. Re:The Source... by bsDaemon · · Score: 1

      Although, i suspect that the real definition of geek, one whoe bites the heads of chickens, would also apply in this case.

    2. Re:The Source... by linzeal · · Score: 1

      Maybe he did it for something more pedestrian, like to get laid.

    3. Re:The Source... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think he's refering to the ones one can speak English correctly.

    4. Re:The Source... by katwomyn · · Score: 1

      Both the Alton Brown website http://www.altonbrown.com/ and the Food TV website for Good Eats tell how he moved into being a chef.

      The sites also sell his gadgets and are a great wealth of information.

      And of course, we know he spent lots of time with Granny in the kitchen!

  7. Other than your own cooking, what do you like? by JUSTONEMORELATTE · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If you were to arrive in a new city, without any knowledge of local dining, where would you eat and why?

    1. Re:Other than your own cooking, what do you like? by desertfool · · Score: 1

      I travel a lot in my job, inside the US and outside. Locals can direct you to places, but you have to be careful what you ask. While in San Pedro Sula, Honduras, I was told once that the best local restaraunt was a TGI Fridays. Really. But ask them where they go to get a good inexpensive meal (Friday's is expensive there) and I have found some outstanding local places.

      I just moved as well, and my wife is astounded that I can find a good burger joint or pizza place in our new local. Easy. They don't have the biggest nor smallest ad in the local phone book. They have a neon sign that might not have worked for many years. Granted, it isn' gourmet, but you don't go to Nick Tahou's for gourmet.

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  8. What are your favorite resteraunts? by CaffeineAddict2001 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What is your favorite sit-down resteraunt and What is your favorite fast food resteraunt? If you were on death row what would you choose as your last meal?

    1. Re:What are your favorite resteraunts? by Matey-O · · Score: 2

      Why would Alton be on Death row? Oh, waitaminit, all those puppets and rubber eraser monster thingies in the yoghurt were really MANEFESTATIONS of his subconscious! And then somebody nearby tried to make a merangue in a non-reactive bowl and he went postal. (Just kidding Alton, you ROCK!)

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    2. Re:What are your favorite resteraunts? by guttentag · · Score: 2
      What is your favorite fast food resteraunt?
      I think that's a little too close to product placement for my taste. I'd rather have Brown tell us which of the following he says at fast food restaurants:
      • "I'll have a Number One."
      • "I'll have a Number Two."
      • "I'll have a Number Three."
      • "I'll have a Number Four."
      • "I'll have a Number Five."
      • "I'll have a Number Six."
      It's sufficiently non-denominational.
  9. Reverse Cooking? by Helmholtz+Coil · · Score: 2

    One question I've had for a while...if cooking is basically a chemical reaction, and chemical reactions can be reversed, does that mean that there's a chemistry of "uncooking?" Imagine the untapped millions of $ available to you if you can show people how to unburn their pot roast!

    1. Re:Reverse Cooking? by Vortran · · Score: 2

      You need to contain everything in a closed vessel. Then, the theory can be worked on. Otherwise you lose too much in terms of gases and airborne material.

      Then you have another problem.. re-synthesizing complex sugars and proteins. Once heat destroys these, they are very difficult to re-assemble from component parts.. it's like tying to get a diamond changed back into a lump of coal.

      Vortran out

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    2. Re:Reverse Cooking? by elmegil · · Score: 1

      Not all (in fact if I recall correctly MOST) chemical reactions are not reversable.

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    3. Re:Reverse Cooking? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Imagine the untapped millions of $ available to you if you can show people how to unburn their pot roast!

      I'm sorry, once you've denatured a protein, you can't go back.

    4. Re:Reverse Cooking? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All of them are reversible. The shroedinger equation is invariant under the transform t -> -t. Therefore, in principle, all chemical reactions are reversible. Practically, of course, it is kind of hard.

    5. Re:Reverse Cooking? by bmwm3nut · · Score: 1

      not to nit pick too much, but coal is more stable than diamond. if you leave a diamond sit for a couple of million years it'll turn back into coal. it's just that the time scale of diamond turning to coal is very long. but thermodynamically speaking, coal is more stable than diamond.

    6. Re:Reverse Cooking? by Quixotic+Raindrop · · Score: 1

      Some chemical reactions are not reversible. In particular, IIRC, denatured protiens are irrevocably altered, and can't be re-assembled into their original state. Also, take wood, for example. Once you've burned out all of the actually flammable elements from wood, you are left with charcoal. Charcoal can't be re-constituted into wood; however, if you let it sit long enough, it will eventually break back down, be re-integrated into other compounds, and may become part of another tree ... but the lump you've got in your hands can't be made into a same-sized piece of wood without the process to break it down completely. Unfortunately, IANAC (I am not a chemist), so this is all just based on what I remember from physics class and _Good Eats_ episodes. :-)

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    7. Re:Reverse Cooking? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's the point of writing IANAC, and then writing I am Not a chemist.

      save yourself the time and just write I am not a chemist. the acronym does zero when you have to explain it out to everyone...except make you look all k3w1 l33t. faggot.

    8. Re:Reverse Cooking? by Quixotic+Raindrop · · Score: 1

      Well, because it's not a common acronym. From now on, of course, I can use the acronym at will, because all humanity understands it. In addition, the last time I tried to light myself on fire, I didn't catch like one would expect of a stick bundle. How could you possibly make such a drastic mistake as to the nature of my being? Maybe because you don't know me! AH HA! Real Men don't post as AC.

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    9. Re:Reverse Cooking? by jandrese · · Score: 1

      NOO!! You mean Diamonds aren't forever? DeBeers lied to me! I can't believe monopolistic ganster slavers would lie to me!

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    10. Re:Reverse Cooking? by Tackhead · · Score: 3, Funny
      > Some chemical reactions are not reversible. In particular, IIRC, denatured protiens are irrevocably altered, and can't be re-assembled into their original state.

      To be more precise - some chemical reactions just happen to require a lot of energy and atom-by-atom processing in order to be reversed.

      You can, for instance, quite easily "uncook" a scrambled egg - by using a chicken as a bioreactor.

      Simply cram lots of milk and scrambled eggs into the beak end of a chicken, wait a few weeks, and voila! Reconstructed egg proteins are extruded from the, uh... other end of the chicken.

      (And what's even cooler, the reconstituted egg proteins are produced in ovoid-shaped calcium-based single-serving units. Much easier to handle than everything else that comes out of the business end of a chicken, lemme tell ya.)

    11. Re:Reverse Cooking? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not all chemical reactions are not reversable.

      I'm sorry, but I can't not understand what you're not saying here.

    12. Re:Reverse Cooking? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Much easier to handle than everything else that comes out of the business end of a chicken, lemme tell ya

      Reminds me of Red Dwarf, when Lister gets turned into a chicken, and they asked him what it was like...

      "You've seen the size of an egg? And you've seen the size of a chicken's bum? I was trying to say 'for god's sake, give me an epidural!'"

    13. Re:Reverse Cooking? by danablankenhorn · · Score: 1
      If you burn the pot roast, toss in some canned gravy or soup stock. All you'll really "lose" will be the stuff that's totally carbon. The rest should be OK.

      Oh, and if you use Alton's method (wrap it in tin foil, cook it low and slow) you shouldn't have that problem. Put in maybe 1/2 cup of liquid (with diced veggies), seal the foil after searing the meat and leave it alone for about 2 1/2 hours.

    14. Re:Reverse Cooking? by liquidice5 · · Score: 1

      but you could,

      theoretically, if you could contain all of the smoke and energy released?
      ?
      but, also IANAC, so i dont know

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  10. Why are some people better Cooks? by kallistiblue · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've noticed that some people seem to be naturally better cooks than others.
    I've know several people that follow a recipe very exactly. The food they create just doesn't turn out very good.
    Personally, I'll use a recipe as a guideline and use rough estimates. Most of the time, my meals turn out pretty well.
    It's as if a intuitive sense is needed.

    How does someone learn/teach this skill?

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    1. Re:Why are some people better Cooks? by twoshortplanks · · Score: 3, Informative
      It's the same thing with coding - some people are better coders than others, and just showing them the rules and syntax won't help them. They need to learn how to problem solve.

      Basically what you're attempting to do is called cognative skills transfer. It's no good transfering the rules of what to cook, you want to transfer the understanding of how you can combine various things, and how to anticipate what effect applying previously unknown combinations of ingredents and techniques work. Again, problem solving.

      There's lots of literature on this subject about teaching people this - it's called "Cogantive Transfer". I recommend looking at some of the stuff by Richard E. Mayer - very interesting.

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    2. Re:Why are some people better Cooks? by FFON · · Score: 1

      you seem to know of my wifes cooking...

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    3. Re:Why are some people better Cooks? by twoshortplanks · · Score: 2
      What are the three rules of Slashdot? Check your post, always include a link, and check your post!

      So I didn't do that, and I got a bad edit there where I repeat the term "Cognative [skill] transfer" - d'oh.

      And I didn't inlcude a like, like this one to Richard E Mayer's homepage

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    4. Re:Why are some people better Cooks? by Vinson+Massif · · Score: 1

      A corollary:

      Why are some people better bakers than cooks?

      My personal observation is I tend to measure obsessively (chemistry geek). My baking always turns out great; my other cooking tends toward blah.

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    5. Re:Why are some people better Cooks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some recipes are very forgiving. If you follow the recipe exactly, then by definition, the food should be as good as what it was intended. Any deviations would have a different result.

      I usually cook bottom up - i.e cook with what I happens to have except when I am entaining guests.

    6. Re:Why are some people better Cooks? by linzeal · · Score: 1

      I found that this helped tremendously with my girlfriend who cannot combine new "exotic" ingredients into everyday cooking without ruining the beauty, taste, or texture of them. Require that you treat each new thing as analogous to a common group that the chef is familiar with. So when dealing with rendered duck fat, treat it like bacon grease or butter. When dealing with chervil, treat it like parsley. If not the combination process that functions best can elude even people that have excellent taste buds, and retention of previous methods that worked well.

    7. Re:Why are some people better Cooks? by stephanruby · · Score: 1
      I've know several people that follow a recipe very exactly. The food they create just doesn't turn out very good.

      One of the variables is the recipe book. Consumer reports did a study a couple of months ago and found that most recipe books had innacurate and incomplete information.

    8. Re:Why are some people better Cooks? by CrazyJoel · · Score: 1

      Maybe some kids are spoon fed and thus are prone to have prepared foods.

      Other kids are left spoon in hand to make a mess and somehow feed themselves in the process. They grow up to be cooks.

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    9. Re:Why are some people better Cooks? by lordgarth · · Score: 1

      I've always remembered Emeril Lagasse's take on this... "You cook with recipes, but you bake with formulas". Cooking with a recipe is more of an art whereas baking is closer to a science. Of course if you are a fan of Alton's show, you know there's a lot of science in both. :-) LG

    10. Re:Why are some people better Cooks? by kiwimate · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Ditto for music. One needs to have a certain level of skill, and then practise to hone that skill. But there's this little thing called feeling. Either you have it or you don't. If you have it, then you can play nursery rhymes and imbue them with character and beauty. If you don't...well, then it's all just a bunch of notes.

      That's why B.B. King is a genius. Can you imagine anyone going up to him and saying, "Wow, that concert tonight was technically perfect!". Or, for that matter, "Man, you played fast tonight!" Not to detract from his technical abilities, but what matters is feeling. Call it soul, if you like -- it's the difference between B.B. King and legions of metal guitarists who can squeeze out 15 notes per second, but will never be musicians.

      It's probably the same reason why my spaghetti bolognaise is, well, usually not much more than your average spaghetti bolognaise. Sure, I can cook; but I haven't rehearsed my cooking, and I don't have a cook's feel for the proportions and the mixing and whatever else an expert does. And an expert in any field, be it cooking or painting or music, is a joy to behold.

    11. Re:Why are some people better Cooks? by BigBadBri · · Score: 0

      My significant other works in a lab - when she's baking, it's precise measurement and fixed procedure.

      On the other hand, she's a brilliant cook too - she knows all the basics and then just lets her imagination rip.

      Me - I'm an inveterate fiddler, so my cooking's either superb or awful, and my baking ('cept for savouries) is headed binwards as soon as I start.

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    12. Re:Why are some people better Cooks? by nelsonal · · Score: 2

      I thought the first rule of slashdot is "You do not talk about Slashdot."

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    13. Re:Why are some people better Cooks? by linzeal · · Score: 1
      This is a bit overdone as a platitude if you want my opinion as a former pastry chef. Expiermenting carfully with baking will net you more failures than naught, but you still have to do this if you wish to be anything more than a dime a dozen doughnut maker.

      For example I made a citrus cheesecake that got published in the local newspaper and netted the cafe I was working at more business, attempting to capitalize on that I started contemplating a tropical cheescake with papaya, pineapple, and breadfruit. It took me nerely a dozen attempts before I realized I would have to drain and leech the pineapple of acid as to not curdle the mixture before getting it right.

    14. Re:Why are some people better Cooks? by dohcvtec · · Score: 1
      One can be a halfway-decent cook by simply using good/interesting recipes and not making any mistakes. I don't consider myself a good cook, but I can follow a recipe precisely and produce the dish the way it was intended. However, being a truly good cook involves being adept at all of the techniques, plus creativity. Good cooks/chefs are known for their specialties, not how well they can prepare a standard dish.
      I'll use a recipe as a guideline and use rough estimates

      My point exactly; recipes are good as guidelines, but you usually end up with something boring unless you add your own touch to it. On the other hand, you have to know where to change things and where not to change. You also have to know how those changes are going to change the final product.
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    15. Re:Why are some people better Cooks? by mudder · · Score: 1

      The rules of Slashdot (stolen from a skiing message board):

      1. Think
      2. Post
      3. Smoke Crack

      Do NOT reverse

    16. Re:Why are some people better Cooks? by caferace · · Score: 2
      Indeed. I had an "incident" with tarragon and peas last night. Peas like a little bit of tarragon, not a lot. Too much and they end up tasting like capers. Ick.

      My wife gets scared when she hears the spice door opening. Luckily, I nailed the bacon wrapped filet mignon, so there was a saving grace.

    17. Re:Why are some people better Cooks? by danablankenhorn · · Score: 1

      I think there's more talent to good programming than cooking. Good cooking mainly comes from practice. Use the recipes until you have them down by heart. Then make some slight alterations that work for your taste. (Alton likes olives and capers and you don't? Don't use 'em). Gradually you'll figure out the basic techniques -- stir-fry, braising, stewing, etc. You'll find a few dishes you really do well. Your repertoire will gradually expand.
      Programming, on the other hand, really good programming. That takes talent.

    18. Re:Why are some people better Cooks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It took me nerely a dozen attempts before I realized I would have to drain and leech the pineapple of acid as to not curdle the mixture before getting it right.

      Sounds like science to me... All that experimenting just means that you have to watch Good Eats more closely...

      Btw, how do you leech acid from pineapple? All of the pineapple juice is acidic... Neutralize it with sodium bicarb?

    19. Re:Why are some people better Cooks? by linzeal · · Score: 1

      A lot of regional spices do not afford much experimentation with chicken and beef, tarragon for instance may be chicken kiev's saving grace but it does not become exquisite until you are basting a wild turkey or duck with it. Ah, now you've made me have want of one. I'll have to find a good local butcher in the bay area, anyone know of one?

    20. Re:Why are some people better Cooks? by ergo98 · · Score: 1

      Alton's approach (his show and his books) are expressly to encourage people not to just be "follow the recipe cooks". Instead he teaches the foundation and techniques for cooking, and the rest is up to personal experimentation and experience over time. Simply following a list of directions with no idea of why you're doing each step, the unknowns of heat appliation, etc, is just a waste of time.

    21. Re:Why are some people better Cooks? by cheezit · · Score: 1

      Take whatever tarragon you are about to use, and halve it. Repeat until you reach the correct amount, namely zero.

      Tarragon might be useful in a homeopathic remedy, but anywhere else I think it is disgusting. Maybe the plant looks nice, I don't know.

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    22. Re:Why are some people better Cooks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've met very few people who are both excellent cooks and bakers. I am the former; my husband is the latter. I am incapable of following a recipie; there are just too many interesting things to do food to rely on someone else's ideas. This philosophy results in great pasta sauce and lousy chocolate-chip cookies.

    23. Re:Why are some people better Cooks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know, I don't really follow baking recipes and, though I am still getting the hang of it, 90% of the time, my bread turns out pretty good. I figure that if I keep experimenting and get a feel for the chemistry that is going on, ie, figuring out what conditions make yeast rise the best, how to accelerate the souring process of my sourdough starter, and when to stop kneading, etc. My bread will get better (or occasionally worse) as I keep experimenting.

  11. Anyone else find it funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That his last name is Brown and the topic is about Food + Heat = Cooking?

    Browning is about the only cooking I get right.

  12. If you could take one food to... by teamhasnoi · · Score: 2
    1) the International Space Station

    2) a Desert Island

    3) Sally Struthers


    Which would it be?

    1. Re:If you could take one food to... by questionlp · · Score: 1
      2) a Desert Island
      It probably wouldn't be Coconut, Papaya or Mango... or even Chocolate... well, at least that's my drift after watching the "Good Eats" where he is stranded on an island (which ended up being one in the Hawaiian island chain).
  13. Salt.... by B00yah · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Why is it that no matter what you're cooking, salt makes it better? Desserts, meat, vegetables, etc.

    1. Re:Salt.... by Enry · · Score: 2

      One of his shows (or maybe it was the book) went over this. IIRC, a larger portion of the tongue is dedicated to sensing salt.

    2. Re:Salt.... by futuresheep · · Score: 1

      AFAIK, Salt simply opens the taste buds up.

    3. Re:Salt.... by Tungsten+Chef · · Score: 1

      Recent research has shown that there are two components to what salt adds to food. The first is the inherent taste that those sodium and chloride ions add. The second, and more important effect, is that salt lessens one's perception of bitter and sour flavors, while heightening sweetness. The French have known this for years, however, calling salt "the most egalitarian of spices, for it brings down the strong flavors and elevates the weak."

    4. Re:Salt.... by abesottedphoenix · · Score: 1

      Do you even watch the show? What Salt wants, salt gets! It's a chemical thingy that he explains with Ken, Barbie, and Salt. Usually it makes it taste better because salt and Barbie are getting it on, and sometimes this works against the meal, like on the oatmeal show.

  14. This Is So Awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    Finally a famous and interesting interview! (ps The Rocket Guy totally sucked.)

    We love you Alton!

    Unlike Marc Summers, you appear to be genuinely happy.

    Food! Food! Alton!

  15. Vegetarians by sammy.lost-angel.com · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As a vegetarian, I'm compelled to ask this: Have you seen a trend in recent years of more vegetarians, or more dishes made without meat? Time magazine had a recent cover story about this, and my feeling is it's becoming a more important part of everyones lives, yet whenever I catch a cooking show on TV it lacks making many vegetarian dishes.

    I sort of compare it to Microsoft talking to a lot of my friends: there is a lot of misinformation out there, and you simply don't need to support a "big evil company" just like you don't need to eat the flesh of animals.

    Mod this as you feel appropriate :)

    1. Re:Vegetarians by scotch · · Score: 2, Funny

      Why stop there? You don't need to eat the flesh of veggies either. If you really cared about your fellow creature, you would just sit in the sun and photosynthesize.

      (grinning, ducking, running)

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    2. Re:Vegetarians by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      rofl right on =P

      peta... people eating tasty animals

    3. Re:Vegetarians by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't that view a little hypocritical?

      Be a vegitatian because you don't like the taste of meat. Be one because you think it's healthier. But when you become one because you don't like killing things to survive, you're just another hypocrit amongst the millions we deal with every day..

      Don't forget, Plants are alive too. You're killing them to survive. (when you look at it objective what is bread but the ground up corpses of millions of baby wheat plants.)

    4. Re:Vegetarians by Vortran · · Score: 2

      As soon as someone can grow a cabbage that tastes like a prime rib steak or a turnip that tastes like a bratwurst, I'm vegetarian all the way!!

      Yes you're right.. one does not need to eat the flesh of animals. It's kinda yucky and none too healthy.. but they're so TASTY!!

      Vortan out

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    5. Re:Vegetarians by Matey-O · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think Vegetarian food has lost the 'stigma' it once had. It's gotten to the point now where I'll frequently have a meal without meat and not think anything about it. (Certainly not "Hey! Look at that! I just ate something without MEAT in it!")

      As far as doing it for your own political desires, have at it. I find it curious that much of the vegetarian food industry is devoted to foodstuff that looks and tastes like meat. There's a biological desire there to use meat as a source of protein. And really on a buch of levels, nothing beats a good Ribeye. (blah blah blah, 6 lbs of grain and 88 million gallons of water to make that ribeye, blah blah blah)

      That's not to say I don't also love a good vegetable curry now and then.

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    6. Re:Vegetarians by passion · · Score: 2

      think about it - the massive enslavement of several other species who don't even get to turn around in their stall, nor see the light of day their entire life... how is that any different from plugging someone into the matrix? (I guess there aren't expensive computer programs entertaining their brains).

      Eat veggies - they don't have brains. If you're really concerned about killing living things, then only eat fruit after it's fallen from the tree. But this is really taking things a little too far though, after all many fruits have formed a sybiotic relationship with animals. Why do you think most fruit seeds are coated with sweet nutritious coatings? So that animals will pick them up and spread the seeds around. That's why cherries make you shit - it's their way of getting birds to make new cherry trees that don't have to compete for the same piece of land as the parent.

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    7. Re:Vegetarians by Hairy+Fop · · Score: 1

      Vegitarian food is definitely on the increase, a good deal of this is due to health, as well as animal welfare.
      Within a large part of a lazy veggie diet there is a great deal of cheese and other fats. Most food that is deemed healthy uses white meat e.g. chicken and fish.

      I personally like cooking but don't always have the time, laziness again. Are there simple methods for low fat cooking that doesn't involve the use of white meats.

    8. Re:Vegetarians by rewdpost · · Score: 1

      This begs me to ask the question:
      Do veggies really "love animals" or do they just really hate plants?

    9. Re:Vegetarians by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So instead it's OK to eat the flesh of plants? Something has to die when you eat, unless you can photosynthesize. There is still not one shred of evidence that vegetarians have any significant increase in healthiness.

      So there's no soothing of the conscience and no health benefits. Why bother?!

    10. Re:Vegetarians by mwalker · · Score: 1, Troll

      Hi there, someone I care about has a genetic disorder known as Hypertriglyceridemia . This disorder is somewhat complicated but basically involves highly elevated trigylceride levels that can become toxic. She is required to maintain her tri levels through medication and diet, and to get monthly blood tests. For six years, my friend was a vegetarian. She took fish oil pills as supplements (despite the fact that they are extracted from slaughtered fish) in order to regulate her triglyceride levels. She was failing; her blood tests were coming back "too high" - and she was on the way to early death. After six years, she gave up and started eating fish. One month later her triglyceride levels were tested as "average"... for a normal person. In short, there are oils in fish which, consumed in the appropriate quantities, will keep her alive.

      You don't have to eat meat. But if you do, you stand to live a much longer, healthier life. Ask any high-output athelete how they would build muscle without animal protein and they will laugh you out of the room.

      Personally I believe that all vegetarians should have the option of discussing choice with a hungry tiger, but that's just my opinion. I'm sharing my friends' story in the hopes that you will choose to lead a healthier life.

    11. Re:Vegetarians by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is as much bad information for 'pro-vegetarianism' as for eating meat.

      A family member of mine is vegetarian and I've read through the material. I also found a large amount of first-source material which conflicted with it. (And in many cases was the source material for the pro-vegetarian information!).

    12. Re:Vegetarians by essiescreet · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      If we aren't supposed to eat animals, how come they're made out of meat?

    13. Re:Vegetarians by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      welcome to frutinarianism.

    14. Re:Vegetarians by autechre · · Score: 1


      That may be true for your friend, but it doesn't mean it applies equally to every other person in the world. There are entire _countries_ out there whose people _never_ eat anything to do with meat, and they seem to get along just fine.

      Different people have different types of nutritional needs. My mom can't even be a vegetarian for more than 2 weeks without feeling faint, so she doesn't try anymore. But that doesn't mean I can't do it. There are all sorts of suggestions as to why this is true; I've read a book linking it to blood type which did seem to make some sense, but I think that the best way to find out is to try it. Clearly, your friend cannot viably be a vegetarian.

      Personally, I am only sort of a vegetarian. I try to never eat pork and beef, and usually not chickens, because of the way those animals are treated (and what they are fed) in this country. I'd like to think that my life will indeed by longer and healthier without overdoses of antibiotics, and without eating cows that have eaten processed, dead cows. I do eat seafood regularly, but get most of my protein from eggs, tofu, and mushrooms. I also take two martial arts (a total of 4 times per week), and I don't have any endurance/stamina/whatever problems.

      Then again, most martial arts don't require mountains of muscles for you to be effective. I suppose that if I wanted to be a bodybuilder, I'd probably have to change my diet. But I think life's too short for meaningless physical output on a daily basis. Just pushing around weights? Why not become a mover?

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    15. Re:Vegetarians by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey.. good point.

      Now excuse me, I'm hungry. Gotta go stick my arm in the oven for a few minutes. I just despise rare meat.

    16. Re:Vegetarians by scotch · · Score: 2
      There are entire _countries_ out there whose people _never_ eat anything to do with meat, and they seem to get along just fine.

      Name one, band-name-thief.

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    17. Re:Vegetarians by T3kno · · Score: 2

      How do you feel about fly swatters, or ant spray? They are living beings too, no one seems to ever have a problem with pest control AFAIK. Hypocrites.

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    18. Re:Vegetarians by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This thread needs some serious meta-moderation. Lighten the fuck up.

    19. Re:Vegetarians by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are entire _countries_ out there whose people _never_ eat anything to do with meat, and they seem to get along just fine.

      Not in the olympics.

      I do eat seafood regularly

      Well then you're not a vegetarian. More importantly, you're not the "killing-animals-makes-you-morally-inferior" vegetarian I thought you were. Of course you have stamina and endurance - fish is the best protein source you can ingest. If your point was that you shouldn't eat cheap, tainted, chemically stained beef, then I agree with you.

      (posting AC so we can finish our conversation without being attacked by zealot editors with Offtopic sticks)

    20. Re:Vegetarians by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Troll? Lighten up, moderators. Jeezus - you people take everything way to seriously.

    21. Re:Vegetarians by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And the angel of the lord came unto me
      snatching me up from my place of slumber.
      And took me on high and higher still
      until we moved to the spaces betwixt the air itself.
      And he brought me into a vast farmlands of our own midwest.
      And as we descended cries of impending doom rose from the soil.
      One thousand nay a million voices full of fear.
      And terror possessed me then.
      And I begged "Angel of the Lord what are these tortured screams?"
      And the angel said unto me,
      "These are the cries of the carrots, the cries of the carrots!
      You see, Reverend Maynard,
      tomorrow is harvest day and to them it is the holocaust."
      And I sprang from my slumber drenched in sweat
      like the tears of one million terrified brothers and roared,
      "Hear me now, I have seen the light!
      They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul!
      Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers!"

    22. Re:Vegetarians by curunir · · Score: 2

      I hear that a lot from meat eaters who can't understand how vegetarians can be happy without eating meat. They simply don't believe that you can derive the same enjoyment from a vegetarian diet as you can from eating meat. But I don't believe this is the case.

      Before I gave up meat, I used to love some meats...Pepperoni in particular. The mere thought of a pizza smothered in thin red meat circles would trigger my brain to release some sort of chemical that made me quite happy. Then came college when I gave up meat (hey...it was UC Santa Cruz, so it was trendy.) Now, I don't even like the smell of pepperoni and actually eating it will make me sick. But the interesting thing is, I still get that chemical happiness from just thinking about food that I like...it's just different foods now. Whereas before it was Pepperoni or a double cheeseburger, now it is a stir-fry with tofu or a spicy bean burger (<homer>mmm...spicy bean burger</homer>.)

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    23. Re:Vegetarians by anandsr · · Score: 1

      I guess if you have a disorder of a type that will require you to eat lots of some nutrients. Then I guess you have to go that way. But Vegetarian food is in no way inferior to meat. I occasionally do have meat, like once a weak. The point is that in India we normally eat only vegetables. The so called non-vegetarians also have it only a couple of times in a week. Very rarely will you find anybody in India having meat daily. That doesn't mean that we are not healthy. Ofcourse we tend to have too much oil and spices also, but that is a different thing. People who do keep a good diet are pretty healthy.

    24. Re:Vegetarians by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      World champion vegetarian athletes (among many others), who would not "laugh you out of the room", as you say:
      Ridgely Abele, winner of eight national championships in karate.
      Andreas Cahling, Swedish champion bodybuilder, Olympic gold medalist in the ski jump.
      Chris Campbell, Olympic wrestling champion.
      Ruth Heidrich, six-time Ironwoman, USA track and field Masters's champion.
      Desmond Howard, professional football star, Heisman trophy winner.
      Peter Hussing, European super heavy-weight boxing champion.
      Bill Manetti, power-lifting champion.
      Paavo Nurmi, long-distance runner, winner of nine Olympic medals and 20 world records.
      Stan Price, world weightlifting record holder, bench press.
      Dave Scott, six-time winner of the Ironman triathlon.

      P.S. according to William Castelli, M.D., director of the Framington Heart Study, "some people scoff at vegetarians, but they have only 40 percent of out cancer rate. They outlive us. On average they outlive other men by about six years now."

    25. Re:Vegetarians by verch · · Score: 1

      This is the classical two wrongs make a right argument. Don't save some creatures because you can't save all of them? Ridiculous.. If we lived by this nobody would ever do anything to help anyone, the environment, anything, because they can't solve all the world's problems.

    26. Re:Vegetarians by sharkey · · Score: 2

      And really on a buch of levels, nothing beats a good Ribeye.

      I just can't agree with that. A good Prime Rib or Porterhouse definitely tops a good Ribeye.

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    27. Re:Vegetarians by Noofus · · Score: 2

      We, as (westernized?) humans, do no good to the world for eating fruit. If we eat the seeds at all, they get crapped out into a bowl and flushed to a waste treatment facility. If we dont eat the seeds, they get thrown into a trashcan where they end up at a landfill. However these seeds probably cant germinate (and survive) without its energy coating. Fruit thats intended to be eaten and deposited wont fare well either trying to grow in the town dump (or someone's compost heap).

      Therefore eating fruit constitutes murder (abortion!). So what do we do now? I guess we can only generate a glucose substance for us to eat, using only an artificial process. We cant use sugar cane, it kills the plant to extract the juice.

      Maybe we can train (evolve) some bacteria to generate a glucose + protine goo that we can all gulp down for nutrition. Wait a minute, thats bacterial slavery!

      Now THAT is going to an extreme :) Me? Just give me a nice juicy steak, some lightly steamed grean beans, or snow peas, and some mashed potatoes - made with heavy cream, and ill be happy as a clam. Oh, and a nice hoppy pale ale to finish it all off.

    28. Re:Vegetarians by spencerogden · · Score: 1

      I think the statistics you quote at the end ar probably flawed. If you compare vegetarians to the whole population, I am sure they are healthier. Just the act of being a vegetarian makes you conscious of what you eat. Now if you compared a group of vegetarians to a group of health conscious meat eaters, would there still be a disparity? I wonder...

    29. Re:Vegetarians by autechre · · Score: 1


      True, you never really hear of any famous Olympians from India (though I don't watch sports, so maybe _you_ have heard of some, but I haven't). But I don't want to go to the Olympics :) My point was that you can certainly be healthy without eating meat, but only if your body is built for it. Just like some people have food allergies and others don't, some people were clearly not designed for a meat-free diet.

      No, I don't count myself as a "real" vegetarian. If I see a really interesting dish in a restaurant which contains something I don't normally eat, I will try it (this happens very infrequently, though). And I do eat seafood, though it's generally only once per week or so (mainly because I have to go to the Korean grocery store to get good seafood at good prices, which is somewhere I only go about twice a month, and really I have to get it the day I cook it). I have a great love of sushi, too (yes, I know that sushi means vinegared rice, and sashimi means fish, but I can only eat so many cucumber rolls at a time :). But I certainly eat far less meat than most people who do not call themselves vegetarians.

      Then again, there are some schools of thought that don't count fish as meat. Kosher law, for one, regards fish as pareve (I had a roommate for 1.5 years who is Orthodox Jewish, so we kept Kosher at home and I learned a lot; he moved to Israel in January, so I can eat squid again :). They are, in fact, "barely considered alive", as my friend puts it, because fish blood is the only blood that's Kosher, and fish are considered neither meat nor dairy (which is what pareve means; not sure if you knew that).

      My brother has two large (120 gallon and 75 gallon), beautiful tropical aquariums (one a reef tank, the other a predator tank). I love to look at the fish, but I don't really have a problem with eating seafood. Maybe it has something to do with their lesser brain power, or (more probably) the fact that most are still caught. I need to take a look at how fish farms are run. Personally, I don't like the killing of animals, but I'm not going to tell you that you're wrong for doing it.

      I work for freshmeat, so if an editor mods me down pointlessly (I'm already shaving my +1 bonus), they'll one day have to face my wrath! :)

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    30. Re:Vegetarians by passion · · Score: 2

      If something is actively biting me, I smack it with my hand - this is the natural order of things. You'd do the same thing if I were to take a bite out of you.

      Otherwise, if the bug is in my house, I try to capture it and release it outdoors.

      Pesticides are just as dangerous to humans as they are to insects, they just don't kill as quickly. Think about why so many more people are getting cancers these days, and you'll find that increase has grown with the increased use of pesticides. When I have an infestation, I try to use natural remedies -> for example, a little cotton swab of peppermint oil will stop ants from invading your place.

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    31. Re:Vegetarians by autechre · · Score: 1


      OK, I did misspeak; it's really only regions of India that are completely vegetarian (though even larger regions would never eat a cow!). There are other good examples, but I'm not going to bother doing research for an off-topic thread on Slashdot.

      Yes, I have a silly username, but all the permutations of "Ray Shaw" I bothered to try were taken. I don't know why Slashdot doesn't let you pick a different real name to display as freshmeat does; why is the login name so important? Bah.

      And at least I have user info, mr. mysterious-for-no-good-reason. :)

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    32. Re:Vegetarians by thePredator · · Score: 0

      no proof? vegetarians have lower rates of so many diseases, dude, do some research before you open your pie hole.

    33. Re:Vegetarians by bleckywelcky · · Score: 2


      It is even more than that. Humans, by nature, are designed to eat meat. We are carnivores, not vegetarians. A human attempting to be a vegetarian is akin to a pig trying to fly. Our digestive system is designed inside and out to digest meat thorougly while only digesting plant materials partially. From our jaw and teeth to the digestive juices in our stomach to the various chemicals secreted throughout the entire digestive process, we are meant to consume and digest meat on a regular basis. On the other hand, plant material does not fair so well in our digestive system. We can crush all sorts of material with our molars and pulverize it with stomach juices and stomach movements, but we can not digest plant material thoroughly because we lack the ability to break down plant cell walls, thereby refusing our digestive system access to the chemicals needed inside the cell. The only nutrients we can obtain from plants are those in between the plant cells, holding whatever structure of the plant together. Humans are supposed to eat meat, and should, as we can stay stronger and healthier that way.

    34. Re:Vegetarians by pthisis · · Score: 2

      I hear that a lot from meat eaters who can't understand how vegetarians can be happy without eating meat. They simply don't believe that you can derive the same enjoyment from a vegetarian diet as you can from eating meat. But I don't believe this is the case.

      You're welcome to your opinion, but this is (quite literally) a matter of taste.

      It's pretty simple set arithmetic to see that an omnivorous diet has more in it than a vegetarian diet. I'm not saying you can't have a yummy and satisfying vegetarian diet, but you _are_ losing options when you do it. If pig snouts happens to be the thing you find tastiest, the vegetarian diet doesn't include them.

      And yes, if you change your eating habits you may find after a while that you no longer like what you used to eat. But that's largely a matter of conditioning.

      IOW, there are a lot of good arguments for vegetarianism. This isn't one.

      now it is a stir-fry with tofu or a spicy bean burger

      Tofu is great. It's one of my favorite foods, extremely versatile.

      Can't say as I've had a bean burger I cared for. Really, I hate all these meat substitutes (everything from soy cheese to bean burgers to Quorn). There are so many good vegetable meals that I don't see the point of eating bad meat substitutes. And if you spend all your time trying to create things that look/smell/feel/taste like meat, it undermines the "I don't miss meat" argument.

      Sumner

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    35. Re:Vegetarians by scotch · · Score: 2
      I like Autechre, just giving you a hard time.

      I'm not mysterious, I just don't have any interesting qualities.

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    36. Re:Vegetarians by thePredator · · Score: 0

      dude, you dont have to eat fish to get those oils, every heard of flax seed? and if you think you cant build muscle without eating animals, have you ever seen a gorilla?

    37. Re:Vegetarians by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are being rather preachy. I eat meat; I like meat.. I see no reason to stop. Just because I (or Vortran, for that matter) don't want to stop eating meat, that doesn't mean I can't undertand that other people can enjoy being vegetarians. I wish you and all the other people out their who can't accept other people's way of living would learn to be a little more tolerant.

      And sure vegetarians can be as healthy as omnivores, but it does take considerably more work and knowledge than most people put into it. I've seen plenty of unhealthy vegetarians.. And if you think soy/tofu is a good replacement, be careful: http://creativehealth.netfirms.com/soyindex.shtml There are so many dangers related to soy, it's unbelievable.

      'and you simply don't need to support a "big evil company" just like you don't need to eat the flesh of animals.'

      If you're eating tofu, chances are you're supporting a "big evil company".. it's just that tofu is considered more chic than Windows.

    38. Re:Vegetarians by passion · · Score: 2

      Fruit thats intended to be eaten and deposited wont fare well either trying to grow in the town dump (or someone's compost heap).

      au contraire, mon frere. Try leaving a few seeds in a well-maintained compost heap... they'll grow like Audrey from little shop of horrors. Seeds love compost.

      Therefore eating fruit constitutes murder (abortion!)

      Not quite, this would be more akin to having sex, or using a contraceptive, as the seed hasn't sprouted yet.

      Although the freshly-sprouting barley grains that are killed in 155 degree water during the malting process that is used to make your hoppy ale... that could be considered abortion.

      Maybe we can train (evolve) some bacteria to generate... Oh, and a nice hoppy pale ale to finish it all off.

      That's not far off from the yeast culture used to ferment that beer. The little yeasties eat the malt sugar and oxygen and poop out alchohol and CO2. While continuing to thrive until they go dormant at a certain alcoholic percentage. They can be re-used over and over again.

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    39. Re:Vegetarians by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ROFL, someone with points please mod the parent up!

    40. Re:Vegetarians by Derwen · · Score: 2

      This begs me to ask the question: Do veggies really "love animals" or do they just really hate plants?
      Hmm, try a little arithmetic:
      one pound of steak arrives on your plate courtesy of some fifty pounds of plants (and ten to a hundred times its calorific value in energy consumed to produce it, depending upon the production method, but that's another matter).
      One pound of vegetables costs the life of one pound of vegetables.

      Ergo our carrot munching friends have saved the lives of 49 pounds of vegetables each time you eat a pound of steak.
      (and saved millions of acres of land, so other people on this crowded planet can eat - perhaps it's people that veggies like, after all?)
      - Derwen

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    41. Re:Vegetarians by garett_spencley · · Score: 2

      There's a biological desire there to use meat as a source of protein.

      I don't see this. I agree that there's a whole ton of vegetarian products that try to look and taste like meat. I'm not too sure as to why but I think it has to do with the fact that people who do eat meat who have to cator to vegetarians are at a loss for what to make them.

      If you're hosting your brother's birthday party, your sister is vegetarian and you're barbequeing burgers then what do you cook for her that doesn't take any more time the burgers? Well veggie burgers seem appropriate....

      I could be wrong of course. Maybe there are vegetarians who actually request these products but to speak for myself I don't.

      I personally can't stand veggie-dogs and veggie-burgers and veggie-whatever. I'm a vegetarian and have no desire to eat anything that tastes, smells or physically ressembles meat.

      So speak for yourself when you claim that there's a biological desire. I think that the majority of people have grown up to be accustomed to meat products and so of course they crave what they know and like...

      I have a hard time believing that there's any biology behind it.

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    42. Re:Vegetarians by Quixote · · Score: 2
      It is even more than that. Humans, by nature, are designed to eat meat.

      Did you really think when you wrote this, or did you just dig it out of your ass?

      I'll take an example: In India, there are 100s of millions of people who are complete vegetarians; who will not eat egss, fish, poultry or (red) meat. And yet they are healthy; live long and fruitful lives and (going by the population) reproduce like nobody's business. Now please tell me, why is this so?

      "Humans were designed to eat meat" is just another myth that people propagate, who don't want to consider the alternatives. It makes it a nice, closed argument: God/nature meant it this way, so I don't want to change.

      If you ever want to try a vegetarian lifestyle, stay away from the "meat substitutes" like Boca burgers and other such crap. Go for the true vegetarian life: try the different legumes, beans, grains, spices, fruits, etc. and your tongue will wake up to the most exquisite world of taste that it will ever know. Mix them together (properly) to form succulent dishes that send your taste buds screaming in delightful agony. The rich flavors of the vegetarian world are light-years ahead of the hunk of meat at your local butcher.

    43. Re:Vegetarians by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've done much research, as I once considered going veggie. All the "benefits" fall into the "duh" category. Vegetarians have "lower" risk of lung cancer and obesity. Duh. They also tend not to smoke or eat high amounts of fat. Show me some data that suggest they live longer. Or have healthier children. Or that they can stay healthy without pumping themselves full of synthetic supplements. Then I'll shut my meatpiehole.

    44. Re:Vegetarians by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      As far as doing it for your own political desires, have at it. I find it curious that much of the vegetarian food industry is devoted to foodstuff that looks and tastes like meat. There's a biological desire there to use meat as a source of protein.

      I wouldn't say it's obviously biological. When I went vegetarian, I had trouble thinking up meals that weren't centered around meat-shaped hunks. The simplest explanation for this isn't biology: it's habit.

      There are also often social pressures that favor eating things that at least look like what non-vegetarians eat. A family barbecue is much more pleasant if the vegetarian just eats some bean burgers rather than bring along "strange vegetarian food".



      Maybe a little paraphrase will help clarify the point:

      As far as doing it for your own political desires, have at it. I find it curious that much of the free software industry is devoted to desktop software that looks and tastes like Windows. There's a biological desire there to use Windows as a working environment. And really on a buch of levels, nothing beats a good Clippy.

    45. Re:Vegetarians by doggo · · Score: 1
      I was a vegetarian for about 18 months when I was in college. I lost a lot of weight, that was a good thing. But that was the 80s and boy was it a PITA to just go through regular life. Resturants weren't savvy, people were always asking questions. (I wasn't in CA).

      I gave it up. Too inconvenient. But it changed my eating habits. I eat more fresh vegetables than I did before that, and usually insist on whole grain breads, etc.

      One thing though. I can't stand "political" vegetarians, couldn't then either. They're like ex-smokers, etc. Always have to give you shit about what YOU'RE doing. And too self-obsessed. I mean, everything has to revolve around bodily processes. To the point of checking their poop for consistancy.

      I figure, go with the food pyramid. Try to eat fresh fruit and vegetables and some meat. You know when you're over-doing it on certain things.

      Life's too short to filter your pie hole.

    46. Re:Vegetarians by scotch · · Score: 2
      Yes, but in the vegan option, the cow never existed. Who's more cruel?

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    47. Re:Vegetarians by eddy+the+lip · · Score: 2

      I'm not going to get into the whole vegetarian vs. meat eater debate in this post, but there's a rather glaring flaw in your argument - your friend has a genetic disorder, and when she eats fish, she's ok. "Therefore all healthy people should also eat meat to stay healthy" is not a valid conclusion from that. Even "all people with this genetic disorder should eat fish" is probably pushing it. You have one anecdote, about one person and provide no further environmental or dietary information.

      In short, even if (if) I was to grant that eating meat is the only way to maintain a healthy diet, your argument would not support that conclusion.

      (oo...look, I fed a troll)

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    48. Re:Vegetarians by jedidiah · · Score: 2

      Humans can digest meat. However, humans have a limited ability to digest plant matter. This was one of the original purposes of livestock animals. Most of them can take advantage of food sources that we simply can't utilize.

      Your example of India does not refute the thesis that humans are designed to eat meat. It only demonstrates that humans that are well separated from nature will go to significant effort to indulge in unnatural behaivor.

      OTOH, many Irish died during the Potato blight with bellies full of grass.

      What kind of "vegetarian" can't make use of grasses?

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    49. Re:Vegetarians by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "The rich flavors of the vegetarian world are light-years ahead of the hunk of meat at your local butcher."

      Doubt it!!! When you veggies come up with a way to cook a carrot and make it taste like a Steak, I'll come with you to the mothership. Vegatables are Vegatables, anyway you cook them.

      I, for one, am glad that there are alot of veggies out there... more meat for me!!!

      Remember kids, if it ain't human and if it had a face, most likely a name and probably a sibling, eat it!!! It was good enough for cavemen and our ancestors, it's good enough for us!

      veggies are funny... they talk about us "Meat-Eaters" spouting off rhetoric... read the posts on this board from some of these folks. veggie rhetoric is just as bad a "Meat-Eater" rhetoric.

    50. Re:Vegetarians by jedidiah · · Score: 2

      Who cares about India?

      Do they have extreme life expectancies like Soviet Georgians? Otherwise, the fact that they can "get by" eating an impoverished diet doesn't really demonstrate anything.

      Then, once you've identified a suitable population you've got to isolate genetics from the equation.

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    51. Re:Vegetarians by jedidiah · · Score: 2

      Gorillas aren't Homo Sapiens.

      There's 10 million years of distance between us and them. They're probably much better at digesting leaves than we are.

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    52. Re:Vegetarians by Quixote · · Score: 2
      It only demonstrates that humans that are well separated from nature will go to significant effort to indulge in unnatural behaivor.

      Please. These Indians have been vegetarians for millenia. Their ancient holy books (3000+ years old) tout the advantages of being vegetarian. Are you saying that their ancestors of 2000+ years ago were more separated from nature than today's typical Western meat eater?

      What kind of "vegetarian" can't make use of grasses?

      Just because you're a vegetarian it doesn't mean that any damn plant matter is digestible by you! There are lots of plants out there that no herbivore will touch. This is the problem with you meat-minded people: you think that all plants are the same, just because all meat looks the same! They are not.

    53. Re:Vegetarians by CableModemSniper · · Score: 1
      (oo...look, I fed a troll)

      The real question is, was it a vegetarian troll that you fed?

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    54. Re:Vegetarians by Suidae · · Score: 1
      If you're hosting your brother's birthday party, your sister is vegetarian and you're barbequeing burgers then what do you cook for her that doesn't take any more time the burgers?

      Mmmm, grilled portabella seasoned with a good steak rub. Might want to make extra, they are at least as good as the burgers :)

    55. Re:Vegetarians by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, he can speak for humanity.

      There is also a desire to procreate that can be generalized.

      Just because you may not wish to procreate, doesn't mean it isn't a valid generalization.

      Freaks come in all shapes and sizes, and humans as herbavores aren't natural. We have always been omnivores, and it takes a focused will to not eat meat. Meat has proteins that we need, and the bean combinations that you need to fully supliment your diet without meat have only been available to everyone in this modern age of transportation, artificial planting, etc.

      Science has overcome the need for meat, and the need for copulation for procreation. That doesn't mean it is natural to not eat meat, or be fertilized/emplanted artificially. In fact, it is quite unnatural, and heavily dependant on science.

    56. Re:Vegetarians by JimMcCusker · · Score: 1
      one pound of steak arrives on your plate courtesy of some fifty pounds of plants (and ten to a hundred times its calorific value in energy consumed to produce it, depending upon the production method, but that's another matter).
      Of course, 99% of that vegetable matter gets crapped right back onto the ground, and used for fertilizer in situ, or in someone's garden. Your tomatos exist because of the lives of cattle that were slaughtered for thier beef. It all works together.
    57. Re:Vegetarians by G.+Z.+Iptar · · Score: 1

      Can we say the matrix? What was the slop they eat on there? Something of a goo that supplies all the correct components to keep them alive? No thanks =) I'm with noofis on this one. Give me a steak any day.

    58. Re:Vegetarians by cpeterso · · Score: 2

      we can not digest plant material thoroughly because we lack the ability to break down plant cell walls, thereby refusing our digestive system access to the chemicals needed inside the cell.

      This is called fiber and it is good for you!

      Why is fiber important to your diet?

    59. Re:Vegetarians by ElectricRook · · Score: 1

      one pound of steak arrives on your plate courtesy of some fifty pounds of plants
      -snip

      Actually it's about 15:1. Cows are about 17-20% efficient on weight wise feed conversion. And much closer to 30% on protein conversion (15 lbs. of 17% feed yields 1 lb. of 90% meat protein). Even though they eat stuff we can't (grasses, and agricultural by-products), they yield about 33% meat and 66% byproducts (dog food; leather; bone meal; insulin; gelatin; you know stuff we don't need). Cows are raised on marginal land. That's grass land that's poor, too steep or rocky to be plowed, irrigated, or raise other crops).

      Now a lot of second guessing about our diet goes on by people who know everything. But the bottom line is...


      We eat what we eat because we evolved with our diet and our environment!


      So for those of you who don't believe in evolution... just get over you little hangups, and leave the 99% of the population to eat what they evolved eating.

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    60. Re:Vegetarians by Byteme · · Score: 1
      Emphasis on "food industry".



      I hardly ever eat anything processed and pre-packaged, and fauxmeat has very little appeal. If you take all the 'vegetarian' dishes from India, Italy, Mexico, Indonesia, East Asia, Middle East and North Africa you have plenty of delights for the vegitarian without any need for the offerings of the "food industry".

    61. Re:Vegetarians by gimpboy · · Score: 2

      Meat has proteins that we need, and the bean combinations that you need to fully supliment your diet without meat have only been available to everyone in this modern age of transportation, artificial planting, etc.

      i would bet a large portion of the indian population would argue that this is incorrect. from speaking with indian friends, i gather that a large portion of their population has been vegetarian for quite a while (read thousands of years). this would be before transportation, artificial planting, etc that we have in this ``modern age''.

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    62. Re:Vegetarians by MannyDixn · · Score: 1

      After your athletes laugh me out of the room, I'll come back with an elephant. That elephant that has never and wil never eat meat is stronger than any of your so-called athletes. Granted, people aren't elephants, but out intestines, teeth, and circulatory systems are most similar to herbivores. Also, how much protein do yuo think you can build in a day? The remainder the body tries to use for energy, and that is a toxic process that produces ketones. So if you were truly trying to build muscle and nothing else, you'd eat no more than 4 oz. of meat a day.

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    63. Re:Vegetarians by bleckywelcky · · Score: 2


      I'm sorry, but this just made me laugh my ass off...

      The rich flavors of the vegetarian world are light-years ahead of the hunk of meat at your local butcher.

      Gather all the professional chefs in the world, and for the heck of it include the amateurs as well, and I would find it hard to believe that even 1% would agree with what you said. Not that there aren't fine tasting vegetarian meals, but your downplay of the use of meat in meals it utterly ridiculous, although somewhat amusing.

      Not to mention that if you try to use quasi-artificial vegetarian ingredients, vege meals will have that 'processed' taste to it. I'm talking about stuff that you can't just walk out into your garden and pick up to make a meal, ya know - all the various tomatoes, pickles, squashes, beets, onions, beans, etc. You can make some good side dishes out of that stuff for a meal with meat at its heart.

      My point wasn't that vegetarians are doomed to die by time they're 20, or that they would be grapsing for their life in some sort of death struggle as they eat vegetarian meals, I know many people who try to stay vegetarian and they aren't dropping dead like flies. My point was that I have read various blurbs in scientific books are journals that describe the meat eating characteristics of the human body. Check this out for a short and sweet overview of the vegetarian/omnivore argument. If you actually take the time (or remember from HS or College) to study the digestive system of humans, you'll notice a lot of mechanisms with the specific task of digesting meat. What sense would it make to have these mechanisms so prevalently in place and not use them? It would be like a bird with wings that wouldn't fly... hundreds (thousands, tens of thousands?) of species of birds can fly... the penguin can't fly (well, through the air at least)... I don't think humans are the penguin of the hominines subfamily of the animal kingdom.

      As well, I'm not saying that one should stay away from any plant matter, it's fine to eat salads, fruit bowls, vegetables, etc... in fact encouranged, because some of these plant materials provide nutrients (outside of the plant cells) that are good for you. What I am saying though is that people who try to argue that eating meat will kill you (while not being poised or whatnot), is some sort of disgusting habit, or will be the demise of us all are completely off their rockers, and it would do them some good to take down some BBQ ribs or a nice glazed honey ham (which I'm sure you can't find a good vegetarian equivalent for either of, and don't even try to say BBQ ribs taste like crap, cause you sir would be out of your mind).

    64. Re:Vegetarians by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i know there have been champion weightlifters who have used bee pollen (and insanely good but very strange source of protien).. also the expected age is higher for vegos.. so i dont know that your points stand up.. this could be because of the fact that bowel cancer really only happens to meat eaters, particularly with the western life style.. but hey, you were saying...

    65. Re:Vegetarians by Zenki · · Score: 1

      Fifty pounds of what kind of plant? Grass?

      The last time I checked, humans don't digest grass readily, but cow's are perfectly fine munching on the grass.

      I personally see the cow as an enhancement to the other foodstuffs available because it converts grass into some sort of food useable for me. (Granted, the conversion rate is pretty crappy. :)

    66. Re:Vegetarians by greycortex · · Score: 1

      "I find it curious that much of the vegetarian food industry is devoted to foodstuff that looks and tastes like meat. There's a biological desire there to use meat as a source of protein" That's because they're trying to make it easier for people who want to be vegetarian to wean themselves off of cravings for animal flesh. The food chemists have virtually created a market for themselves by creating meat-like substances such as VEAT (tm) and the various products by Gardenburger , Boca, Morningstar Farms, and Yves Veggie Cuisine.
      As far as your comment on the ribeye, I'll do naught but politely disagree, and say that though I personally believe that you are wrong, I respect that you have the right to chose to eat another animal's flesh. I like a good paneer curry, myself, but vegetarians aren't about exotics. Plenty of contemporary dishes can be made vegetarian.

    67. Re:Vegetarians by Derwen · · Score: 2

      Cows are raised on marginal land. That's grass land that's poor, too steep or rocky to be plowed, irrigated, or raise other crops).
      Hey, you obviously don't live in the prime dairy area of your country. Cows here are raised on high quality land: in the winter they feed on crops grown on other prime quality land.
      Now a lot of second guessing about our diet goes on by people who know everything. But the bottom line is...
      That's quite true, however not only are my roots in the country, I still live their now, in a village where cows outnumber peple ten to one ;-)
      - Derwen

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    68. Re:Vegetarians by Derwen · · Score: 2

      but in the vegan option, the cow never existed. Who's more cruel?
      An interesting point, let's follow this line a little...
      In the western world 95% of dairy cows are conceived through artificial insemination (the other AI ;-)
      Now, as you say, were we all to turn vegan, these cows would not exist. Is the suggestion that it is better to create a huge amount of life, regardless of consequence - that quantity of life is a good in itself?
      OK then, better get campaigning against China's birth control policies - which are holding the country's population at scarcely more than a billion. And all those charities (and the UN) working to promote birth control in Latin America, lets stop that now!

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    69. Re:Vegetarians by Derwen · · Score: 2

      Fifty pounds of what kind of plant? Grass?
      0. Grass sward contains many useful and edible plants. 1. Dig up the grass and plant some of the 5000 edible plants that grow in our climate. 2. What cattle eat only grass species? 3. If you want to eat cows (or mothers' milk from cows) then fine, but find an argument that isn't based on land use. I've got plenty that you could have, but I'm not feeling generous today ;-P

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    70. Re:Vegetarians by scotch · · Score: 2
      I don't follow you at all.

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    71. Re:Vegetarians by Derwen · · Score: 1
      You seem to be saying that the cow not living at all (due to veganism) is cruel. I was following the implications of such a view.
      Apologies if I misunderstood, and that was not what you were saying.
      - Derwen

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    72. Re:Vegetarians by ElectricRook · · Score: 1

      Hey, you obviously don't live in the prime dairy area of your country.

      Actually I do. California is the largest dairy producing state in the US. Not the largest number of dairy cattle, but the most efficient. It's also a large beef cattle state. 90% of the private land is grazing land. In my area it won't rain from mid June until late September. And won't grow a thing for you or me without irrigation. The grass grows in the cool wet winter.

      Mike

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    73. Re:Vegetarians by sudog · · Score: 1

      He's not talking about fiber, you idiot. He's talking about cellulose. Animals like cows can digest (and get nutrients from) cellulose. Humans lost the ability to digest cellulose many thousands of years ago. That is what our appendix used to be for--digesting cellulose. That's also why we can't eat grass to stay alive but other plant-eaters can.

    74. Re:Vegetarians by scotch · · Score: 2
      OK, got you. What I think is absurd about that particular line of reasoning is that it values humans above all other animals (especially farm animals) which runs counter to other bits of vegan reasoning.

      Me? I like meat.

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    75. Re:Vegetarians by DJerman · · Score: 2

      You're forgetting the millions of yeasts that are boiled alive in every loaf. Save the Protists!

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    76. Re:Vegetarians by Loundry · · Score: 2

      Please. These Indians have been vegetarians for millenia. Their ancient holy books (3000+ years old) tout the advantages of being vegetarian.

      Neither of these points have anything to do with whether or not humans are physiologically omnivores.

      Are you saying that their ancestors of 2000+ years ago were more separated from nature than today's typical Western meat eater?

      I didn't think she/he was saying that. I was thinking that she/he said that humans are vesitile and resilient and will proceed to do many things (such as circumcision, homosexuality, and vegetarianism) that their bodies were not physiologically intended for.

      I'm gay, by the way.

      Just because you're a vegetarian it doesn't mean that any damn plant matter is digestible by you! There are lots of plants out there that no herbivore will touch.

      And there are also lots of plants (such as the stalks of various grasses) which are the pricipal diet of hundreds of species of herbivores (which do not include humans) that are completely and totally undigestable by humans (which are omnivores). You can talk about morals and ethics all you want, but you can't deny physiology. I think this represents a flaw in vegetarian philosophy.

      This is the problem with you meat-minded people:

      This is "all of you suck!" Phrases like this build walls, not bridges. You're not going to convert anyone to vegetarianism by telling them what their problems are.

      you think that all plants are the same, just because all meat looks the same! They are not.

      This is a blanket statement, but I think it does represent a healthy majority of the mindset of non-vegetarians.

      I was a vegetarian by choice for several years. I think most vegetarians come off like bible-beating Christians: arrogant, rude, self-aggrandizing, patronizing, and negative. Many of your words make you come off this way, too. Why do vegetarians behave in this way? (Please don't reply by starting with, "Because meat-eaters . . . .")

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    77. Re:Vegetarians by GreenCow · · Score: 0

      to a 'political' vegetarian you are murdering their friends. the meat industry is like a perpetual holocaust to cows. cows are alive and feel pain just as you and i. they're industrially numerically wrought out in the most efficient manner possible. and killed in the most economical fashion (when they reach their largest size, the equivalent of killing 18 year old humans) sorry to bother you with my 'nagging' but you just bought a plate of murder.

    78. Re:Vegetarians by GreenCow · · Score: 0

      the reason the foodstuff is made to look and taste like meat is because of the seasonings added to the wheat gluten or tofu protein base. there's not really much taste to a steak or a block of tofu, it's the marinade and seasonings that give it flavor.

      biologically meat is easier to digest, but we have a long digestive track that gives us the biological capacity to get all the protein we need from beans and whatnot (soybeans have more protein per gram than beef) and red meat has the added bonus of heapings of saturated fat and cholesterol to keep your veins nice and insulated.

  16. Economy Geek Food by Tom7 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Here's what I want in a meal. If I'm like other geeks, and I think I am, they'll be interested too:

    - Easy to prepare in bulk, hard to screw up
    - Made from cheap ingredients I can purchase in bulk and that keep more-or-less indefinitely
    - Leftovers are robust and reheatable in the microwave
    - Healthy and tasty

    My best recipe so far is two gallons of chili made in a big slow-cooker. Do you have any other suggestions?

    1. Re:Economy Geek Food by tx_mgm · · Score: 1

      i want to hear what alton has to say about this....please mod the parent up

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    2. Re:Economy Geek Food by spotter · · Score: 2

      Baked Ziti.

      1 9*12 roaster/baker aluminum pan
      1 lb of ziti noodle
      1 jar of marinara sauce
      1 lb of Ricotta Cheese
      8 oz of Mozerella

      boil water, put noodles in water, cook for the 10 minutes (or as per directions).

      drain water, dump noodles into pan, dump sauce into pan, dump cheese into pan. mix well.

      layer on top with mozerella.

      bake in oven at 350-400 for 30 minutes (or until done). Depending on how you can cover your ziti pan with aluminum foil. Stores and reheats easily. Can make 2, 3... pounds of nododles at once. (I normally do 2, lasts me an entire week)

    3. Re:Economy Geek Food by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or, in a similar vein, bulk cooking for entertaining.

      How do you go about deciding cheap easy dishes to server up to several guests?

      We don't all have several stove tops, heating lamps, and prep chefs in our kitchens to get the different portions all going.

      For me and others like me, I am not even talking about elegant dinner parties, but lan parties where you might want real food as opposed to chips and beer (I think we'll keep the beer part though). Cheap(ish) ingrediants, lots of taste, bulk quantities of prepared food, easy to prepare.

    4. Re:Economy Geek Food by spotter · · Score: 2

      hmm, slightly not thinking not 1 lb of mozerrella, but 16 oz (fluid oz's I believe, perhaps it equates to lb's some how). Also 8 oz of the shreded mozerella.

    5. Re:Economy Geek Food by big_oaf · · Score: 1

      boil water, put noodles in water, cook for the 10 minutes...

      I read that as "boil water, nut poodles in water, cook for the 10 minutes." Yeah, I think it's time for a break.

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    6. Re:Economy Geek Food by ncc74656 · · Score: 2
      Baked Ziti.

      Prego has some pasta sauces for baking...you can make baked ziti without boiling the pasta first. IIRC, you dump the pasta, a jar of sauce, and a jar full of water into a baking dish, stir, cover, and throw into the oven. After a while, you uncover, stir, top with cheese, and let it bake some more. It's good stuff, and you only get one dish dirty (instead of also getting a pot dirty).

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    7. Re:Economy Geek Food by NeoSkandranon · · Score: 2

      Might i reccomend my recipe for Antacid milkshake (the 2 liter recipe) because after eating two gallons of chili over any length of time you're gonna need it

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    8. Re:Economy Geek Food by spencerogden · · Score: 1

      Is cleaning a pot which had boiling water and pasta in to that hard?

    9. Re:Economy Geek Food by linzeal · · Score: 1

      Those sauces are just thicker than the crap prego and ragu usually gives you, ragu especially. Get a good thick store brand or local sauce and use that the same way. Better yet just buy some whole tomatoes and crush them in a bottom of a bowl and add spices, garlic, and sausage (bacon fat or salt pork if you have it).

    10. Re:Economy Geek Food by linzeal · · Score: 1

      Slow cooker recipes are made for this. If you have lived in the midwest for any amount of time, you have no doubt had nacho cheese dips and chilis made in these monstrosities. I have a Hamilton Beach 5 quart that can cook two seperate things at once, which is awesome for mild and hot dips and chilis. Slow cookers could render the neck of a cheetah tender.

    11. Re:Economy Geek Food by IvyMike · · Score: 2

      I find this a question a little un-geeklike, because Alton's recipes usually are as simple as they can be while still producing quality food. (Unlike Emeril or Martha, who in my opinion have recipes that are needlessly complicated for no good reason...) Not only that, but he's one of the few people who actually explain the whys of their recipes; it's quite akin to getting commented source code. His recipes explain everything, which make it really easy to make experimental changes.

      In other words, he's already giving you high-quality food source code. If I were him, I wouldn't want my name attached to any lower-quality source code that sacrifices quality.

      To extend the analogy, asking Alton this question is sort of the moral equivalent of asking Linus Torvalds for some Visual Basic code.

    12. Re:Economy Geek Food by cdrudge · · Score: 2

      For me it's not the pot, but the ease of making it. It is easier and quicker for me to toss a box of pasta, dump in the sauce and toss it in the oven for 30 minutes then boiling the water & cooking the pasta, then dumping in the sauce. It just skips a step.

    13. Re:Economy Geek Food by dr_dank · · Score: 1

      My best recipe so far is two gallons of chili made in a big slow-cooker. Do you have any other suggestions?

      I have a suggestion: Lots of this stuff.

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    14. Re:Economy Geek Food by nelsonal · · Score: 1

      I enjoy a rice and lentil soup, the dry ingredents last nearly for ever, and the soup lasts quite a while. If you can get over the color, its sort of gray. Its excellent in a tortilla or as a thick stewy soup. Its a little plain without the hot sauce, but garlic or other strong flavors would also work. If you want the recipe email me.

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    15. Re:Economy Geek Food by Starving+Artist · · Score: 2, Informative

      If you can cook rice, then Jambalaya baby!!

      Just toss in whatever meat bits you've got (chicken chunks, sausage, bacon, shrimp, etc...), along with a bunch of veggies (celery, onion, tomatoes, bell/red/chili peppers, etc...), cook up, add some liquid (tobasco, water, chicken stock, beer, etc...), add some long grain rice (about 1 part rice to 2 parts liquid), cover your pot, drop the heat and wait for rice to cook.

      The trickiest part is cooking all of the rice without burning it, but once you've done it once, you're good to go.

    16. Re:Economy Geek Food by Lxy · · Score: 2

      It's called "pizza".

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    17. Re:Economy Geek Food by Tom7 · · Score: 1

      Nah, if you rinse beans well they don't upset your stomach. (Well, mine at least!)

    18. Re:Economy Geek Food by TheLOTR · · Score: 1

      One of my favs from college is to take one can of mushroom soup, one can of green beans, mix and cook it in the microwave or the on the stove. It actually is pretty easy, takes hardly any effort, and the ingrediants are canned so they last forever. If you decide you want some meat in that I personally like stove-blackened chicken breasts that have been cubed.

    19. Re:Economy Geek Food by RetroGeek · · Score: 1
      Hey, the beginnings of a geek recipe book!

      Ok:
      • 1 lb of gound beef
      • 2 cans of baked beans (I like the "molasses ones)
      • package of chinese noodels, any flavor
      Cook the ground beef.
      Break the noodles into little pieces (while still in the package). Cook the noodles. Do not add the package of flavor.
      Add the beans to the beef.
      Add the noodels to the beef.

      For extra flavor add some pancake syrup.

      Eat.

      Lasts just about forever, and microwaves well.
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    20. Re:Economy Geek Food by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    21. Re:Economy Geek Food by danablankenhorn · · Score: 1
      Stone soup. The story was a hungry man came upon a village, and told the people he would make soup out of a stone. Everyone wanted to try it, so he urged them to bring various vegetables to add to it. Pretty soon he had enough soup to feed everyone.


      My mom's "stone soup" features such things as carrots, cabbage, potatoes, white beans, tomatoes, salt and vinegar to taste. You always start with aromatics (onion, garlic, etc.) giving them a good "sweat." (Cook in a little oil at low heat.) When they start to look clear, add water (a few quarts) and your thickest veggies (such as turnips) to the pot. If you're going with uncooked beans, toss them in early and wait an hour before starting the veggies. Then add 'em slowly, in reverse-order of cooking time (thick, fibrous stuff like potatoes and carrots before quick-cooking corn, for instance). Cook some rice on the side. Offer Tabasco for those who want it kicked up, salt for those who don't. Crackers. Since it's not got any meat in it, it ought to keep several days in the fridge. Make new meals of it by having different kinds of fancy breads with it at different meals -- Hawaiian sweet bread, for instance. Super-cheap, very good for you (beans and rice are a complete protein), and plenty of room for your taste and imagination.

    22. Re:Economy Geek Food by DJerman · · Score: 2
      If you don't cook the pasta in advance, use canned crushed tomatoes (or whole tomatoes which you crush by hand, even better) and some dried basil and/or oregano, you'll get brighter flavors and go as fast or faster. Just make sure the noodles are submerged before baking and they'll slurp up the tomato-water just fine. If it stays soupy near the end, uncover to dry it out a bit.

      But do use a cheap glass or enamelled roasting pan, not aluminum -- the tomato acid will tend to rot the pan, and the pan will in turn color the tomatoes. Not an issue for a disposable pan unless you get some particularly tart tomatoes, but it may go nasty in the fridge.

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    23. Re:Economy Geek Food by DJerman · · Score: 2
      If you have an oven, a bird is good, or a beef or pork roast -- get a probe thermometer and follow Alton's instructions. Add steamed or boiled veggies and you have a "real meal" or serve with rolls for succulent sandwitches. This will keep you from having to lug _your_ computer to the lan party for a long time....

      Back in the real world... stews and thick soups are good. Get egg noodles (the kind that are sold in knotty balls, preferably), broth, some leeks or onions and carrots and other floatable veggies, boil and serve. Biscuits rolled flat and shredded make it chicken 'n' dumplings.

      To stew, start sooner and cook slower, using forkable lumps of the toughest, cheapest meat you can buy. Crock pot or slow bubble on the hot plate for 4 hours or so, with taters and carrots and onion (and turnips, whatever veggies look good, but no peppers till the end -- they go bitter). Mmmm. Gets better while the party goes on. Serve over a half bowl of rice or noodle to stretch it out.

      And look up the Once and Future Beans on foodtv.com for a butt-kicking baked bean dish. Just be sure to end the party before the beans start to speak....

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    24. Re:Economy Geek Food by CavemanKiwi · · Score: 1

      Curry, it is the shit you can make a large lamb curry and continue to eat it for a good week or so. And as for cooking it ya just can't wrong. hmmmmm Curry and beer of course

  17. Questions... by f00zbll · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Have you ever made filo dough from scratch? If so, what are the secrets of making perfect filo dough?

    Do you keep a database of your recipes or do you use the old fashion method of dead trees?

    1. Re:Questions... by mlh1996 · · Score: 1

      Food 911 had a good show on this...

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    2. Re:Questions... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Make your own filo? Easy: buy a box of frozen filo, take it home, and thaw it. Then get on with your life.

    3. Re:Questions... by f00zbll · · Score: 1
      Make your own filo? Easy: buy a box of frozen filo, take it home, and thaw it. Then get on with your life.

      Actually I was half kidding about filo dough. I don't know anyone personally who makes it from scratch. I was curious because 1. it's damn hard and 2. how hardcore is alton brown?

      Most people do just buy it frozen, since making it from scratch is a major task. But I hope he answers it and reveals the secret.

  18. Junk Food by boa13 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So, I'm a student here in the U.S., eating way more fast-food than I should, watching a population around me that is fatter than what we have in Europe. What do you think about the so-called junk food, and the people that eat it? Are you or would you get involved in campaigns that aim to educate people about what they eat?

    1. Re:Junk Food by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More specifically than just junk food/typical american diet, what thoughts do you have on all the nutritional advice of late from the perspective of a scienties and a cook? What do you think of the Atkins diet? How about the food pyramid and its scheduled revision? How does nutritional advice affect the way your cook?

    2. Re:Junk Food by Jerry+Kindall · · Score: 1

      Alton Brown is a campaign to educate pople about what they eat. Although, I guess, not in the same way.

  19. Heat? by Dirtside · · Score: 2

    Wait wait, WHAT? You can HEAT food? Hot damn! I'm writing this down... no more frozen taquitos in the middle of a 16-hour coding binge for me!

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  20. posting anonymously for obvious reasons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting
    My fiancee is not a good cook. There are a few things she cooks pretty well, but she just doesn't have the talent of someone who really knows how to cook.

    I myself am a decent enough cook, however, I don't know how to teach her to cook, as I am a horrible teacher.

    So, my question to you is this...

    How can a pretty bad cook learn the essentials of good cooking?

    1. Re:posting anonymously for obvious reasons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Translation:

      I'm an awful cook. Sure, I can make a PBJ sammich and scrambled eggs, but that's about it.

      My fiancee is a good cook though, but she just won't teach me how (I think she likes hoarding the fact that I suck at cooking over me... she likes bedtime analogies too).

      So how can I learn how to cook and stop feeling retarded?

    2. Re:posting anonymously for obvious reasons by Misch · · Score: 3, Funny

      My dad: "When I married your mom, there were only two things I didn't like about her. One, she couldn't dress. Two, she couldn't cook. She took a few classes and now dresses to kill, and cooks the same way."

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    3. Re:posting anonymously for obvious reasons by webscathe · · Score: 1

      How can a pretty bad cook learn the essentials of good cooking?
      That's the whole idea of his book I'm Just here for the Food. I suggest you buy it for her.

    4. Re:posting anonymously for obvious reasons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rob Malda, is that you? Look, I'm not a bad cook! I cook you very decent meals night after night, and THAT's the thanks I get!! YOUR cooking, on the other hand, we wont even speak of.....

      You are right though, you a lousy teacher. This thing Linux just baffles me, though I do find Gimp somewhat useful, but I've already got Photoshop, so what's the point?

      ttyl,
      -kathleen

    5. Re:posting anonymously for obvious reasons by Cowardly+Anonym · · Score: 1

      EXHIBIT A: "My fiancee is not a good cook."

      EXHIBIT B: "I myself am a decent enough cook ..."


      Logically, assuming that good cooking is the desired outcome here, YOU should do the cooking.


      Next question ...

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    6. Re:posting anonymously for obvious reasons by KshGoddess · · Score: 1, Interesting
      My fiancee is not a good cook. There are a few things she cooks pretty well, but she just doesn't have the talent of someone who really knows how to cook. ... How can a pretty bad cook learn the essentials of good cooking?

      By spending time with her fiance, discussing cooking? By talking about the things that make her cooking good/bad/indifferent? By not having an a-hole of a fiance complain about her cooking publicly? *cursing*

      Relationships are built on trust and communication. Not "Honey, you make the worst crap I've ever tasted" communication, but "I know you worked hard on this dish, but it's [too salty|got mushrooms|kinda funny looking]." Although sometimes, walking into the kitchen and saying "What did you do to that rice?" is needed.

      Cooking is an art. It takes imagination and self-confidence. If the cookbook says one thing, and you want to do another, and your bf/gf has bitched about your cooking in the past, you won't feel free to experiment.

      Disclaimer: I am a pretty good cook, and so is my bf. We actually discuss what makes the meal that we're eating good, so that we both learn. Sometimes I screw up, sometimes he screws up, but we still learn in the process. We learn things like the ginger jar has no shaker top so be careful, cayenne and chili powder make everything taste better, and it's really hard to screw up a burrito.

      Maybe you'll just have to do the lion's share of the cooking. Maybe your next vacation can include a trip to a cooking school for you and your fiancee.

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    7. Re:posting anonymously for obvious reasons by aes12 · · Score: 0

      Well, in my experience, it's easiest to teach by example. She probably doesn't enjoy cooking, which is the fastest way to make sucky food. Instead of going out on Saturday night, stay in, invite a few friends over, and cook up a small informal dinner party. Get everyone to help out, and you'll all have fun. In the process, she may start to enjoy cooking, and if not, she'll see what everyone else is doing, and pick up ideas, hints, etc.
      Bonus: She doesn't even have to know what you're trying to do, and thus, won't get all huffy and offended. :)

    8. Re:posting anonymously for obvious reasons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Interesting. For some reason my husband seems to find undressing more important than dressing (not sure what you mean by dressing but if it involves something more complicated than "jeans and linux t-shirt", I'm a lot better at the former than the latter). And I let him do most of the cooking because, well, bad things happen otherwise. But he says I'm a "keeper" 'cause I can hack.

      "Womanly" skills are overrated if you ask me. Financee, ditch this fiance and find a more forgiving and liberated class of geek. ;-)

    9. Re:posting anonymously for obvious reasons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How dare you push your values on him.

    10. Re:posting anonymously for obvious reasons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It seems like there have been some surly replies to this guy, and I think that they are misplaced. When you get married to someone, you change. You improve yourself to make your spouse happier, because you love him or her. So his fiancee can't cook and he'd like her to be better at it. It doesn't make him a monster any more than his fiancee's desire that he become a better conversationalist or lose the beer belly or become better in bed makes her a monster. If my fiancee told me that she wished I were a better cook and bought me a couple books, I would be flattered, since she clearly loves me and wants me to make myself a better, wiser person, instead of dumping my sorry ass and marrying some chef.

      Like to the Wiz-oe.

    11. Re:posting anonymously for obvious reasons by danablankenhorn · · Score: 1
      Cooking is the best, cheapest, most romantic and sexiest date in the world. Find a recipe you both enjoy, buy the ingredients together, work together over a glass of your favorite beverage, and when the dishes are done you're just steps from the bedroom!


      Start with a pounded chicken dish, like a quick chicken piccata. (Pound breasts flat, sweat onion and garlic, flour (salt and pepper) chicken and saute, deglaze with white wine and lemon juice to make sauce after they're all fried, add capers and pour over the chicken, serve with pasta.

      Later on, get more adventurous. Many woman love things with clams and other shellfish.

      Another Food Network cook offered a great recipe recently called "salmon in the dish washer." Wrap the salmon with some spices, lemon and maybe thin-sliced squash in tin foil, real tight. Fold it three times down from the top, three times in from the sides. Make sure it's tight. Toss it in the dishwasher, with your dishes, and set the dial to "normal." When the dishes are done, so's the salmon. I tried this over the weekend -- it works! (I'll bet it would work with sea bass, too - just a nice thick piece of fish that would normally take about 15 minutes to steam.)

  21. Mod this up! by mekkab · · Score: 2

    This is a great question!

    Although if he's anything like most geeks,

    He'll do a bunch of research before hand. If there was not time for that, I bet he'd simply ask around (thats how I found some great barbeque in Kansas city (not that thats hard, but the first two places I was "directed" to sucked.))

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    1. Re:Mod this up! by jeffy124 · · Score: 1

      I wouldnt be surprised if people in his profession get caught in that situation often. For example, if on a flight from San Francisco to Miami, bad weather in Miami redirects him to another location for a night, New Orleans for instance, then the research for New Orleans has not been done. Sure, he could phone a friend, but that may disturb him and he doesnt want to do that. The airport may have restaurant magazines for sale, but at the inflated prices, it may not be worth it.

      Of course, he could always just hit a McDonalds :-)

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    2. Re:Mod this up! by sys$manager · · Score: 1

      If he was anything like most geeks he'd get a pizza or go to McDonalds. Let's be realistic. I don't eat anywhere that doesn't a) deliver or b) have a "drive-thru".

    3. Re:Mod this up! by TaxSlave · · Score: 1

      He'll do a bunch of research before hand. If there was not time for that, I bet he'd simply ask around (thats how I found some great barbeque in Kansas city (not that thats hard, but the first two places I was "directed" to sucked.))

      Great barbeque in Kansas City? I'd think it would lose some of its great tast on the way from North Carolina.

  22. What is your favorite local foods... by motardo · · Score: 1

    What is your favorite local foods from around the country? Such as Chicago hot dogs, New York style pizza, Maine Lobster, etc. I love the show, I tape it every time it's on (thanks, TiVo!).

    1. Re:What is your favorite local foods... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      mod this up!! Very good question I bet a lot of us want to know about.

  23. Cute + Furry = Tasty by tRoll+with+Butter · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Do you have any recipies with (a) gerbil(s) as the main ingredient?

    So far, I've collected:
    Gerbil in the microwave (the perfect quick meal for the starving college student)
    Gerbil Soup, She Devil-style

    As you can see, my list is far from complete. I'd appreciate any new gerbil recipies you can offer.

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    1. Re:Cute + Furry = Tasty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Richard Gere has a number of recipes. I suggest that you ask him.

  24. browning by the Maillard reaction by rfischer · · Score: 1

    Q: What techniques can be used to accentuate the flavors produced by Maillard browning in various dishes?

  25. Differences in yeasts? by Ricdude · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What are the main differences in the types of yeast used for making bread, versus the types of yeast used for making beer? Could someone, for example, take a beer yeast culture and make a decent sourdough from it?

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    1. Re:Differences in yeasts? by ncc74656 · · Score: 2
      What are the main differences in the types of yeast used for making bread, versus the types of yeast used for making beer? Could someone, for example, take a beer yeast culture and make a decent sourdough from it?

      I could be talking out my ass on this, but I suspect that baking yeast is optimized for production of gas (to make bread rise) while brewing yeast is optimized for producing alcohol (for obvious reasons :-) ). All yeasts produce both carbon dioxide and ethanol to some extent. In breadmaking, you want the carbon dioxide and don't care about the ethanol. In brewing, it's the other way around. (Almost...bottle-conditioned beer (nearly all homebrew, and some commercially-produced beers such as Rare Vos and Sierra Nevada Pale Ale) uses the carbon dioxide for carbonation.)

      At least, I think I remember reading something along those lines in my homebrew books...

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    2. Re:Differences in yeasts? by aes12 · · Score: 0

      Basicly, it's the diffence between a German Shepard and a Poodle. They taste different :)
      Seriously, though you could probably use beer yeast to make bread, give it a try. On the other hand, do not try to make beer with bread yeast. Beer yeast has been bred with very specific characterics in mind. The flavor and texture character of the beer is strongly influenced by the yeast chosen. Bread yeast will most likely produce an alcoholic liquid that even the most degenerate of /.ers wouldn't drink.

    3. Re:Differences in yeasts? by dohcvtec · · Score: 1

      Bread yeast doesn't go through rigorous quality control like beer yeast, so it's generally a mish-mash of various pure and wild yeast strains and bacteria, or whatever else is in the ambient air. Bread yeast is optimized for fast reproduction, with explosive growth compared to most yeast used in beer. Yeast used in beer, however, generally consists of pure cultures, e.g. if one is brewing an English style ale, a yeast strain would be selected that is similar to that used in English breweries. Beer yeasts are distinguished by the subtle flavor characteristics they impart to the finished beer and the conditions under which they are to be used. In other words, if you were to pick a beer yeast to make bread, you would want to pick a yeast that reprodices very quickly, say a German ale yeast. As for sourdough, IIRC sourdough starters contain certain strains of bacteria that produce the sourness.

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    4. Re:Differences in yeasts? by Dahan · · Score: 2
      I could be talking out my ass on this, but I suspect that baking yeast is optimized for production of gas ... while brewing yeast is optimized for producing alcohol....

      I don't think you can optimize for one or the other... (at least if by "optimize" you mean producing more of one than the other). They come as a set :)

      C6H12O6 -> 2 C2H5OH + 2 CO2
      I.e. for every molecule of sucrose, you get 2 molecules of ethanol and 2 molecules of carbon dioxide.
    5. Re:Differences in yeasts? by Dahan · · Score: 1

      (actually, I guess C6H12O6 is glucose... oops :)

    6. Re:Differences in yeasts? by phalanxausage · · Score: 1

      I've used both as a devoted baker and homebrewer (I'm just a yeasty kinda guy). Beer yeasts work slower than bread yeasts but I've made some very interesting breads with them. You can also use the spent grains from the mash in a bread. Just dry 'em & grind 'em. Beer yeasts also don't feed well on wheat flower, so I add some malt powder to the dough. I have had wine made with Fleishman's, during my dark, underage days in college. It works, the resulting "Death Juice." was very potent and vile. I had a few friends who liked it, especially the poor bastard who stank up his dorm room housing the stuff during primary fermentation, but I couldn't drink much at all. So, all in all, they mainly just taste different.

    7. Re:Differences in yeasts? by emerald_glitter · · Score: 1

      What are the main differences in the types of yeast used for making bread, versus the types of yeast used for making beer? Could someone, for example, take a beer yeast culture and make a decent sourdough from it?

      I don't know the specific chemical difference between the types of yeasts commonly used in brewing vs the yeasts commonly used in baking, but speaking from experience, some of the best damn sourdough I've ever made had a beer + flour rather than water + flour base.
      (FYI - if you try this at home, use a light beer. Trust me.)

      I also know that there are different mechanical processes used to create commercial baking yeasts, in terms of the size of the granules. Smaller granules are used to make what we know as 'fast-acting' or 'single-rise' yeasts

      From my brewing days, ale yeasts are quite different from lager yeasts, mainly in the temperature that they are active and happy in. Lager yeasts need colder temperatures (cold meaning ~65 degrees F). Lager yeast is also a top fermenting yeast rather than bottom fermenting like an ale yeast and is a fairly recent innovation.

      Here's an interesting food site explaining some differences in yeasts.

  26. How does he develop these methods? by kiwimate · · Score: 5, Interesting

    From the /. review:

    Back to the grill, he's removed one of the plates on the side of his grill and fitted it with a piece of tailpipe. Then, when he's grilling, he sticks a hair dryer in the tailpipe and uses it to whip the coals into an inferno. Which might explain why he gets his oven mitts from the hardware store in the form of welding gloves. When talking about ovens, he describes how he builds an oven out of firebricks, and how he uses a large terra cotta pot to cook a chicken in his oven. It's all in the name of even heat distribution. He's also not above rewiring his electric skillet to provide a greater range of temperatures. You know you've read something good when the author includes a mini-disclaimer to the effect of "if you try this at home kids, I and the publisher are not responsible."

    Okay, well, he's apparently fairly cool.

    As for the question: how does he come up with these rather novel cooking methods? Is it trial and error (and, if so, what errors)? Does he have any sort of physics background? Or does he just wake up at 2am and think what a wizard idea it would be to use a hair dryer as a catalyst for his cooking?

    1. Re:How does he develop these methods? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the idea of blowing on a fire to make it hotter may preceed anyone having a 'physics background'.

    2. Re:How does he develop these methods? by Soko · · Score: 2

      Actually, it's simpler science, I would imagine. Can you cook a whole chicken by pointing a cutting torch at it? Why not? Seems like common sense, but there's a lot of science behind the reason why the above isn't a terribly good idea.

      The reason why you toss a (good) steak on a raging hot grill is to sear the outside of the meat closed. Then when you cook it, all of the good stuff stays inside, instead of dripping on to the coals and burning away. A properly cooked, medium rare steak should only lose about 1/8 of it's pre-cooked weight to moisture loss. Anyway, simple chemistry/physics tells us that the more fuel+oxygen you give a fire (forcing a faster chemical reaction = more of the by-products in a shorter time span, in this case infra-red energy), the hotter it gets, and the hotter it gets, the better the seal on the food. The hair dryer's providing a way of flash-searing the food he's grilling.

      I cook holiday turkeys with this in mind - I start with the oven @280 C (450 F) for about 1/2 an hour. The reason? I try to turn the skin essentially into a watertight bag, so the critter cooks in it's own juices after I turn the heat down to 200 C (325 F). I also make an oversized aluminum foil tent that I put over the bird, in order to disrupt the normal heat flow in my non-convection oven and even out the heat on the bird. The hot air flows from the bottom to the top through the middle, hits the ovens roof and goes back down via the sides, then repeats. The tent forces the heat to the sides before it hits the roof, and creates turbulance. This turbulance washes the sides of the bird in hot air. Result? My turkey is done about %60 faster and is almost always overly juicy. Yum.

      Like the reviewer said, it's all about heat distribution. Dammit, now I'm hungry.

      Soko

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    3. Re:How does he develop these methods? by Dahamma · · Score: 1

      This reminds me of my uncle the sculptor, who made a foundry hot enough to melt bronze out of a gas line and 2 electric leafblowers... I think it's time to upgrade that hair dryer!

    4. Re:How does he develop these methods? by justruss · · Score: 1

      The reason why you toss a (good) steak on a raging hot grill is to sear the outside of the meat closed.

      This is not true. Searing is good (Malliard reaction) but it does not prevent moisture loss. And while your cooking technique for the bird is close to Alton's, you missed the science behind it. From

      http://www.goodeatsfanpage.com/SeasonMisc/Turkey Tr anscript.htm

      "AB: No. Actually 'low and slow' is no way to go. 'Low and slow' the fat layer just melts and rolls off without browning the skin. Longer cooking time means dryer meat. No. You go 500 degrees for 30 minutes, then you slap on the turkey triangle, drop the heat to 350 and cook until the probe thermometer says 161. Then you rest it, you carve it, you eat it and take a nap."

      His "turkey triangle" is not convection related (do you have a convection oven?), it is an insulator that prevents the white meat in the breast from getting as much radiant heat as the rest of the bird (dark meat).

      russ

    5. Re:How does he develop these methods? by j1mmy · · Score: 1

      Or does he just wake up at 2am and think what a wizard idea it would be to use a hair dryer as a catalyst for his cooking?

      This is hardly a stroke of genius. Anybody who's ever used a grill has noticed that fanning the charcoal will cause it to heat more quickly. Using an automated fanning source is obvious enough.

      I use an electric fan to achieve the same effect. I wedge into the railing on my porch, leave my grill half open, and turn the fan on high. We have glowing charcoal in a matter of minutes.

    6. Re:How does he develop these methods? by troyml · · Score: 1

      Ahh.. but this is just not true.. the Food Science "God" Harold McGee tested this very premise. A seared steak, or any other form of flesh for that matter, does not seal in the juices.. as a matter of fact more juices are lost.

      BUT... the flavor is vastly improved because you get those brown crunchy bits of sugars and proteins that are formed in the Maillard reactions creating literally thousands of flavor compounds to tantalize the taste buds.

      Since food is all about good flavor we want those compounds, so we sear.. this is why we don't boil good steaks.

    7. Re:How does he develop these methods? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't actually get any benefit whatsoever by searing. See "The Curious Cook" by Harold McGee (who also wrote the marvellous "On Food and Cooking"). He has a chapter which patiently blows away the whole searing thing.

  27. Favorite Recpie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Alton,

    What's your favorite recipe for Hot Grits?

    Would you prefer them to be served alone, or a la pants?

    Thank you.

    1. Re:Favorite Recpie by Budgreen · · Score: 1

      You might have better luck if you just said

      what is your favorite recipie?

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  28. Where do you get the ideas? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've seen you cook with some funky things: cardboard box smokers, terra cotta chicken roasters, etc. What inspires you to find these things and what's your favorite alternative cooking device so far?

  29. Utensiles by FortKnox · · Score: 1, Redundant

    Which are the utensiles/cookware that is a MUST for any kitchen?

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    1. Re:Utensiles by slow_flight · · Score: 2

      Not to short circuit your question, but those are available on his web site. I think he calls them Essentials. He's at www.altonbrown.com.

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    2. Re:Utensiles by Misch · · Score: 3, Interesting

      This question is probably better worded as:

      I've just graduated from college and have moved out into an apartment. I really want to take the time to cook good food, but I don't have all the equipment. I'm also nearly broke paying back my college loans. I've put away $300 to start building my dream kitchen. What do you recommend I purchase so that I can make some good eats? I already have the stove and microwave. What else?

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    3. Re:Utensiles by TheConfusedOne · · Score: 1

      Hmmm, what does $300 get you in the mail-order bride business?

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    4. Re:Utensiles by eli173 · · Score: 1

      Probably a bad cook.

      *grin*

    5. Re:Utensiles by Misch · · Score: 2

      Hey, if she comes with pots, pans, and a full kitchens worth of utensils, for $300, sounds like a bargain to me.

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    6. Re:Utensiles by swisener · · Score: 1

      Well, if you can scrounge up $23 for his book, there's a list in the back of essential stuff to get. He particularly recommends a good cast iron skillet I picked up one at Ace Hardware for $15. Also, check his essentials page.

      --Steven

    7. Re:Utensiles by aes12 · · Score: 0

      Look for Kitchen Confidential by Anthony Bourdain. He has a chapter on what you need in order to "cook like the pros". On the top of the list is, to paraphase, a good chef's knife.

  30. Small kitchen - what tools? by Enry · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I have a rather small kitchen, but love cooking. The downside is that I have a lot of gear all over the place, usually because I really need it. What would you recommend as a "required list" of tools (utensils/appliances) that people should have in their kitchen?

    1. Re:Small kitchen - what tools? by gallen1234 · · Score: 5, Informative

      A list of Alton's Essentials can be found on his website in a typically quirky format.

    2. Re:Small kitchen - what tools? by dagoalieman · · Score: 2

      Along the same lines- being a college student I rent.. CHEAP. As a result of this, storage space is minimal, if that. Cooking tools I've got a decent selection for (and a place under the sink for.) In the bathroom-sized cabinet above my stove, however, I can't fit many things in. What spices/ingredients (like salt) are essential to be used?

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    3. Re:Small kitchen - what tools? by linzeal · · Score: 1

      I had a small kitchen as well if you can at all do it get an island with shelves that you can put all your prep tools in, and roll it into a corner when you are not using it. I bake fresh bread on mondays (doing some challah right now) and I put all my baking crap in there. One of my friends, "jacked his up" with bigger wheels and a primitive suspension so he can take it outside in the grass with all his bbq stuff.

    4. Re:Small kitchen - what tools? by Uruk · · Score: 2

      He has an area on his website that sort of answers this question. Check this out. It has a list of tools that he likes to have in a kitchen, and why. Many are rather multipurpose items, so you can do lots of different things with relatively few tools.

      Hope this helps.

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    5. Re:Small kitchen - what tools? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://altonbrown.com/pages/elements.html

    6. Re:Small kitchen - what tools? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      What would you recommend as a "required list" of tools (utensils/appliances) that people should have in their kitchen?

      RTFM

      This may sound a bit harsh, but Alton Brown has already listed the cooking tools he considers key on his website at: http://www.altonbrown.com/pages/essentls.html

      Everything Alton Brown considers key is there, from 2 heat proof spatulas to an electric kettle.

    7. Re:Small kitchen - what tools? by robocord · · Score: 1

      First and foremost: don't put the spices above the stove. For that matter, don't put them right next to it or in front or behind it either. Heat and light aren't good for spices, especially if you use any fresh spices. If you've got one of those froofy spice racks with glass jars, toss it out. Put your spices either in opaque containers or in a dark cupboard AWAY FROM HEAT!

    8. Re:Small kitchen - what tools? by dagoalieman · · Score: 2

      It's actually over the sink, but the size of my kitchen puts the stove about 1 ft (if that) from the sink. It doesn't get direct heat, but may get some ambient heat. The spices are on the opposite side of the cabinet.

      Thanks for the advice though. I didn't really know that. The fact that I'd done it was pure luck, not intentional. (I'm a Newbie cook, but love trying..)

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    9. Re:Small kitchen - what tools? by Hiro+Antagonist · · Score: 2

      More than *anything* else, I recommend purchasing good cutlery. You can easily spend a few thousand dollars on a set of knives that will last you a lifetime, but if you can drop something in the $500 range, I recommend the J.A. Henckels Vier Sterne (Four Star) series -- the blades are very high quality, freeze-hardened steel, and as long as you take proper care of them, they should last eternally.

      If they don't, that's what the lifetime warranty is for.

      On top of those, get two cutting boards -- a larger wood one for dealing with dry goods and vegetables, and a plastic one for dealing with meats (so it can be washed in the dishwasher, and because the blood won't soak into the plastic).

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    10. Re:Small kitchen - what tools? by aes12 · · Score: 0

      Well, in the short term, you can get cheaper knives, but for the love of all things holy, stay away from the "never-need sharpening" crap that they push in the infomercials and at Wal-Mart. The fact is, they will need to be sharpened; you just can't do it. Sure they'll cut, they are in fact just tearing the food, which isn't so bad, until you end up using too much force, slip, and tear whatever body part you carelessly left in the path of the knife. A sharp knife is much easier to be safe with.

    11. Re:Small kitchen - what tools? by Anonymous+Cow+herd · · Score: 1

      Err... ok... Alton's a chef & geek, and I'm not... but a cigar cutter? Other than semi-safety, what's the benefit of using these over a small, sharp knife?

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    12. Re:Small kitchen - what tools? by Anonymous+Cow+herd · · Score: 1
      Well-stocked kitchen basics:
      • Salt
      • Pepper (get a mill if you can, the taste of fresh ground pepper can't be beat)
      • Sugar
      • Vinegar
      • Oils (olive, vegetable and sesame)
      • Flour and/or corn starch.
      • Soy sauce
      • Mustard
      Spices depend alot on what you're cooking and/or on your taste. The ones I use most are: oregano, thyme, tarragon, tumeric, rosemary, cinnamon, bay leaves, allspice, and nutmeg (I'm probably missing a few).
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    13. Re:Small kitchen - what tools? by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 2

      The list is interesting... but I wish there was a brief blurb on WHY these tools are essential. Granted - I'm not exactly up on good cooking. So maybe its my ignorance that gets in the way. But then, this would have been a great way to start chipping away at that ignorance.

  31. dirty pleasures .. ? by peatbakke · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As a well known chef, people must assume you have a refined palate and discerning tastes ... but do you ever get a crazy cravin' for a Big Mac? Do you have a secret lust for a particular type of junk food?

  32. Geek Cuisine by ascarave · · Score: 1

    What are your thoughts on being considered by many the King of Geek Cuisine (with Jamie Oliver a close second)? Is it such a bad thing to be the Sultan of Strange when it comes to the presentation of recipes and concepts. (And just how many of us have not pointed out to friends recently that a cheesecake is really just a standing custard?) ;)

  33. Question by JiMbOb_ka · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Having watched your show numerous times, it is easy to see you have a genuine "geekness" about you. As a fellow member of the tribe, I always find it interesting to see how you explain so many things with the science behind the matter rather than just explaining it away with "Because that's the way it's always been done.". My question to you is this, have you always been a cerebrally inclined individual? Have you faced many hurdles in the cooking world due to your pursuit of the science and taste and not the tradition?

    1. Re:Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Couple of reasons: first, it's easier to eyeball the amount that you're using (a pinch here, a pinch there); second, its larger surface area (per grain, smaller surface area by volume) means that it's less "salty" when added to a finished -- let me emphasize "finished" -- dish, so you actually increase your control over the final flavor; third, for the same reason, kosher salt works much better than finer salts when it has to adhere to something, like a salt crust on meats, or draw out moisture, such as when salt-curing meats. However, for the same reason, avoid using salt, and kosher or large-grain flaked salt in particular, on raw meats you don't intend to cook immediately; you'll dry them out.

      Cheers,

      - The Watchful Babbler

  34. Web site.. by mwalker · · Score: 2

    Why is it that everytime I want to watch your show, Emeril is on instead?

    1. Re:Web site.. by Steve+Luzynski · · Score: 1

      You need a Tivo. Mine keeps me from missing a single episode.

      Sometimes I get really lucky and it grabs the 2AM showing, which is typically commercial free for "cable in the classroom".

  35. Art vs. Science by Susskins · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A lot of your show is dedicated to the Science of cooking, and to the underlying physics of food. Your Grandmother (in a really cool episode about biscuits) demonstrated a wicked amount of Artistic Skill, the "look and feel" of food preparation. Do you have any thoughts about the balance of Art and Science in cooking?

  36. What is your favorite food? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Simple question, I know, but I feel it can help you understand a cook/chef better if you know what they like to eat.

  37. Knives by cporter · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Mr. Brown, I've been watching your show for some time, and I know that you provide a good deal good advice on selecting and caring for kitchen equipment: appliances, "gadgets," cookware, and even a barbecue grill. I appreciate this part of "Good Eats" a great deal.

    One discussion I haven't seen: I consider the most important multitasker in my kitchen to be a knife, mainly my 8" chef's knife. What advice do you have for choosing a set of knives? Which knives do you consider the most important in food prep? Do you sharpen them yourself or have them sharpened at a shop?

    Thank You
    Chris

    1. Re:Knives by veddermatic · · Score: 3

      This is covered in the book, as well as in epsiode EA1B12, the tomato sauce one.

      Good question, but we only have 10, so let's ask something he hasen't covered.

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    2. Re:Knives by autechre · · Score: 2


      He did address this in a past show, but I forget which one. I didn't see it, but I did read the transcript at www.goodeatsfanclub.com.

      For the record, here's what I remember from the episode: Choose a quality knife that feels comfortable to you. Hone them at home after each use (it actually straightens the blade, not sharpens it). Professionals send their knives out to be sharpened, and so should you.

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    3. Re:Knives by CharlieG · · Score: 2

      Pros send their knives out to be sharpened because they really don't have the time. At home, you CAN learn to do it yourself - it's not hard - current favorite method is a pair of Water stones - a 600, followed by a silver stone

      But then again, I'm a knife nut - for GOOD basic sharpening, go out and buy a Spyderco Model 204 sharpenee - and USE IT

      Gad I hate dull knives - Mine are usually shaving sharp

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    4. Re:Knives by leshert · · Score: 2

      I think you mean www.goodeatsfanpage.com.

    5. Re:Knives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bah, total yuppie overkill. I use a whetstone from the hardware store and one of those honing sticks. No faggy brand names, no faggy matched set knives. I got my knives at the dollar store, and they glide through tomatoes and stuff.

      Unless you're a closet homosexual and a status conscious insecure fool, that's all you need.

      Do you also use several types of toilet paper and roll dispensers depending on the shit?

    6. Re:Knives by autechre · · Score: 1


      Ack! Yes, s/club/page/. Thanks for the correction.

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    7. Re:Knives by mtnbkr · · Score: 1

      Cool, I'm not the only knutt here :)

      Chris

    8. Re:Knives by mdwebster · · Score: 1

      I thought "conventional" wisdom held that electric sharpeners weren't that good. Does the Spyderco defy this general rule or is it "good enough" for someone without the time or skill to use water stones and steel hones?

    9. Re:Knives by CharlieG · · Score: 2

      It's not electric - stay away from electric! It's a Vee type sharpener

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    10. Re:Knives by CharlieG · · Score: 2

      Other than the personal attack - yes all you need is a whetstone - the reason I use the waterstones has NOTHING to do with my kitchen knives, but the fact that I sharpen planes and chisels, and find it gives a better edge

      That said, for a person who does NOT know how to sharpen a knife, one of the many V stick shapeners is probably the most foolproof, and I think the Spyderco is one of the best

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    11. Re:Knives by doggo · · Score: 1
      Go to your local Chinese grocery and buy one of those big Chinese chef cleavers. That's all you really need, 'ceptin' maybe a little paring knife fer fancy curlicues. Yan can't be wrong.

      Seriously, a one point in my batchelor life the only sharp knife in the house was some silly cleaver I had gotten as a gift. Since it was the only sharp knife I used it, and used it, and got used to it. I knew that Chinese chefs pretty much used cleavers exclusively, so I decided to try it. That was years ago.

      I prefer the one that's a single piece of stainless steel shaped into a cleaver, rather than the ones attached to a wooden handle. I use an old Gerber diamond "whetstone" sharpener I bought in the 80s to sharpen it. The blade was 4 1/2" high when I bought it for $10. Ten years later, 4" high.

    12. Re:Knives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This ) is the best sharpening system for general use IMO. Its fast, cheap and its real hard to mess up. I sharpen my Henckel's Pro S knives with them as well as my SOG

    13. Re:Knives by mdwebster · · Score: 1

      ahhh , I got ya. Thanks for the tip, it looked electric on the website I saw it on so I assumed. See what ya get for assuming? :)

  38. Dear Alton Brown by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mr. Brown, just a couple of questions for you:

    1) Who fuckin' cares?
    2) If we wanted to read about fucking cooking, we'd go to www.marthastewart.com or someplace, don't you think?

  39. Open Sauce by Alain+Williams · · Score: 1

    Would be consider adding to the Free world, by creating and GPLing one recipt dedicated to slashdot readers ? If it was a ketchup, relish or gravy we could call it 'Open Sauce'.

  40. Cancerous Carbs? by (eternal_software) · · Score: 4, Interesting

    With all this talk of heating foods, I was wondering what your feelings are on the World Health Organization calling an emergency meeting to discuss the recent studies on heating carbohydrates. These studies found high levels of the carcinogin acrylamide when carbohydrates are heated in a certain way, such as by frying potatoes or baking bread.

    Do you think this will affect your cooking recommendations in anyway?

  41. What are your thoughts on MSG? by teamhasnoi · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Do you use it, or shun it? Do you subscribe to the notion of an extra flavor (salty, sour, sweet, bitter, and ((perhaps)) savory ) that it is supposed to represent?

    Where is it approprate, and how might I use it best? Or why shouldn't I use it at all?

    1. Re:What are your thoughts on MSG? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      According to all the modern literature I've read on taste buds, there are five tastes. Namely
      1. Salt (Na+ ions)
      2. Sour (H+ ions)
      3. Bitter (elevated Ca2+ ions, usually caused by basic substances)
      4. Sweet (usually glucose)
      5. Umami (some amino acids such as glutamate)

      More info found here

    2. Re:What are your thoughts on MSG? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MSG make all food taste better.

  42. IP by mwalker · · Score: 2

    Why is it that the recipes from Good Eats belong to the Food Network, and they post so few of them? How much editorial control do you have over your Web Content and would you do things differently if you had the option?

  43. Resteraunts by ajakk · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I read an article about Ming Tsai (the wonderful host of East Meets West) where he noted that, after his show became popular, he came under enormous amounts of pressure to open resteraunts across America a la Emerill. He turned down the offers, and I was wondering if you have come under the same pressure and what is your feeling towards opening up resterants capitalizing on your celebrity.

    1. Re:Resteraunts by linzeal · · Score: 1

      I'd like to see Alton Brown cooking schools across the country, perhaps america would actually understand what they routinely shovel in their mouth gratuitously from the nefarious fast food joints isn't worth it for taste or calories.

    2. Re:Resteraunts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ming Tsai owns and operates a restaurant called Blue Ginger, which I believe is somewhere in NY state.

    3. Re:Resteraunts by ajakk · · Score: 2

      I believe that resteraunt is the one his parents used to own. Either way, he stated in the article that people were pushing him to open big resteraunts all throughout major tourist spots (NYC, San Fran., Las Vegas, etc.).

    4. Re:Resteraunts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ming Tsai cracks me up because he acts like he's so Asian but he's as American as apple pie. A couple of times he's had his dad on the show and even his dad has an American accent. What is he, third generation? Seems to me like he's trying to capitalize on an association with Asia that he just doesn't have. If you closed your eyes and listened to Ming Tsai you'd swear you were listening to some frat boy from Indiana ...

      Now ... that Yan Can Cook guy ... even though his show is boring and his dishes mediocre, at least he's the Real Thing ...

    5. Re:Resteraunts by Grapes4Buddha · · Score: 1

      Granted, Ming is American as can be, but that's kind of the point of the way he cooks. He takes the food of his heritage and blends it with the food of the world he grew up in.

      BTW, my wife and I just had dinner at Blue Ginger (Wellesley, MA by the way) a few days ago. We bought Ming's cookbook and asked our waitress if we could meet him. He stopped by our table and chatted with us for a while. He's really a pretty cool guy, doesn't come off as egotistical or anything. When he saw that our copy of the cookbook was "pre-signed", he ran off and got us a fresh one so that he could sign it himself.

      I especially like the fact that the recipie for his signature dish at the restaurant is listed prominently in his cookbook. Can you say open source cuisine?

      Anyway, great guy, great food. Don't pick on him...

    6. Re:Resteraunts by danablankenhorn · · Score: 1

      Given that all his shows are done "at home" (and have you noticed how his homes have gotten bigger during the run of the show) I'd say Alton is a bigger threat to appear in an ad campaign for "Kroger" or "Bed, Bath & Beyond."

    7. Re:Resteraunts by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 2

      ...oddly enough, just last week I got some dead-tree spam advertising a line of sauces and cookware with the Blue Ginger branding and Ming Tsai's confident approval. From Target, none the less.

    8. Re:Resteraunts by fakane · · Score: 1

      Ming Tsai owns and operates a restaurant called Blue Ginger, which I believe is somewhere in NY state.

      Blue Ginger is in Wellesley MA.

  44. Re:Alton by boomer_rehfield · · Score: 1

    no....no, it really isn't... cook Pronunciation Key (kk) v. cooked, cooking, cooks v. tr. 1. To prepare (food) for eating by applying heat.

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  45. Iron Chef by FortKnox · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Seeing that all geeks love Iron Chef, I have to ask, would you be willing to go against an Iron Chef? If so, which would you pick??

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    1. Re:Iron Chef by Malic · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ...and what would be your prefered featured ingredient? (!)

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    2. Re:Iron Chef by rnb · · Score: 1

      In the Good Eats episode "Scrap Iron Chef," Mr. Brown went up against Chef Midwestern/Chef Prairie and lost due to biased judges.

      Not an answer to your question, of course, but one of the many reasons I love Good Eats.

    3. Re:Iron Chef by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know it's one question per post, but combine these two and that's _got_ to be one of the ten.

    4. Re:Iron Chef by danablankenhorn · · Score: 1
      The original "Iron Chef" actually ended its run in 1999, although they had a two-hour special for the year 2000. In the first half their regular villain (Kandagawa appeared as the "Dean of Kansai" against Michiba and then as the head of the "Ota Fashion" against Morimoto) beat Sakai. In the second half Bobby Flay beat Morimoto, who'd beaten Flay in New York.

      I would have been much happier had Morimoto's win in New York gotten him Flay's own show. "Hot off the Grill with Masaharu Morimoto" sounds like pretty cool programming, don't you think?

      UPN briefly tried an "Iron Chef USA" starring William Shatner as Chairman Kaga, but it was terrible and failed, I think, after just one episode.

    5. Re:Iron Chef by rnb · · Score: 1

      I would have been much happier had Morimoto's win in New York gotten him Flay's own show. "Hot off the Grill with Masaharu Morimoto" sounds like pretty cool programming, don't you think?

      Considering how annoying Bobby Flay is, yes, that sounds like pretty cool programming to me.

      I live in Philadelphia, where Morimoto runs his own restaurant. I haven't gone yet but definitely want to. Sigh.

  46. Carrot Juice Is Murder! by wiredog · · Score: 5, Funny

    Listen up brothers and sisters, come here my desperate tale.

    I speak of our friends of nature, trapped in the dirt like a jail

    Vegtables live in oppression, served on out tables each night

    This killing of veggies is madness, I say we take up the fight

    Salads are only for murderers, cole slaw's a fascist regime!

    Don't think that they don't have feelings, just cause a radish can't scream.

    I've heard the screams of the vegetables, watching their skins being peeled.

    Grated and steamed with no mercy.. how do you think that feels?

    Carrot juice constitutes murder.. greenhouses prisons for slaves!

    It's time to stop all this gardening.. let's call a spade a spade.

    ...

    I'm a political prisoner, trapped in a windowless cage

    'Cause I stopped the slaughter of turnips, by killing five men in a rage

    The Arrogant Worms

    1. Re:Carrot Juice Is Murder! by sharkey · · Score: 2, Funny

      LOL! Remember, you're not hunting deer/moose/rabbits, you're protecting plants.

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    2. Re:Carrot Juice Is Murder! by swisener · · Score: 1

      This is necessary. Life feeds on life...feeds on life...feeds on life...

      --Steven

    3. Re:Carrot Juice Is Murder! by Scaebor · · Score: 1

      just to show how immensely well-cultured I am ;) :

      something's up
      something's on my mind
      i try to go to sleep
      i try to pass the time
      what gives you the right
      to kill a harmless carrot
      growing in god's sunlight

      you say they're best
      you say they're best for you
      i say it's not true
      you say they make
      a damn good stew
      so it's time
      it's time to liberate
      don't eat a carrot
      spare it
      and don't eat the beet
      on your plate

      all my friends say
      veggies feel no pain
      all my friends say
      veggies have no brains
      all my friends say
      veggies feel no pain
      don't stir fry by me!
      ya-ya-ya!

      -guttermouth (veggicide)

      --
      "Hey brother Christian with your high and mighty errand / your actions speak so loud I can't hear a word you're saying"
  47. bucking the trend... by count_dooku · · Score: 1

    Most cooking shows feature a chef cooking upwards of 8-10 complex dishes in the span of an hour. I find it almost impossible to follow along. Your show, on the other hand, focuses on a few recopies, showing the necessary techniques and hardware needed. Do you think shows like yours will start a new trend, whereby quality > quantity?

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  48. Re:Alton by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This man has got to be a genius or a troll. Either way, mod this up!

  49. must have video! by elmegil · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When is the entire series going to be available on DVD? Or perhaps more seriously, what plans are there to expand on the current three DVDs, which admittedly cover classics, but leave us wanting more? (I have to have a copy of the oatmeal episode, just for the haggis recipe; not that I want to MAKE haggis mind you, but that was some inspired scripting)

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    1. Re:must have video! by topham · · Score: 2

      I second this. I was just thinking the same thing.

    2. Re:must have video! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Three DVD's are already up for sale at the foodtv.com website:
      http://www.foodtv.com/cgi-bin/webmerce.c gi?page=/m arketplace/prod_template/0,4346,,00.html&prod_id=4 141&cart_id=1065255.7923

    3. Re:must have video! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      You'll wait patiently for the rest of the DVDs... or you'll get the back of me hand!

    4. Re:must have video! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Three DVD's are already up for sale at the foodtv.com website

      Thank you, Captain Obvious.

      I guess you missed this part: what plans are there to expand on the current three DVDs?

    5. Re:must have video! by elmegil · · Score: 1
      An A/C wrote:

      You'll wait patiently for the rest of the DVDs... or you'll get the back of me hand!

      Head! Paper! Now! Move that melon of yours and get the paper, if you can! Haulin' that gargantuan cranium about....

      Heh. Scots humor is the best.

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    6. Re:must have video! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've been waiting for this show on DVD for a while. I started pushing for Good Eats episodes on DVD way back in it's 3rd season with petitions and emails to Food Network. Didn't seem like it went anywhere, so I was really surprised to see them out on disc. We need to see all of the shows on disc, maybe in season box sets.

  50. Vision of the show by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I heard that you, essentially, decided that you wanted to do a show like Good Eats, but not having the appropriate cooking skill, proceeded to enroll in a cooking school. Then, once finished you returned to develop the show.

    How close is the current show to what your original vision was? Did you plan it to be as fun and wacky as it is now, or did that come after cooking school?

  51. My question by mofolotopo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Something I've found as a newbie chef is that a good 75.32% of good cooking is good shopping. What tips do you have for finding good, fresh ingredients? Where the heck do you get fresh herbs etc. in a smallish town?

    1. Re:My question by user32.ExitWindowsEx · · Score: 1

      How did you calculate that to two decimal places? :p

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    2. Re:My question by mofolotopo · · Score: 1

      "How did you calculate that to two decimal places? :p "

      By failing to calculate confidence intervals. That's 75.32 +/- 75.30.

    3. Re:My question by ncc74656 · · Score: 2
      How did you calculate that to two decimal places? :p

      95% of all statistics are made up. :-)

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    4. Re:My question by r00tarded · · Score: 2

      the nearest biggish town?

    5. Re:My question by Rinikusu · · Score: 2

      Herbs grow rather readily in most environments. Try setting up a small herb garden in your backyard or in a planter box outside your kitchen window.

      Please don't grow the, uh, "other" herb that will get you thrown in jail, though. :)

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  52. simple yet great hot dog prep by butocabra · · Score: 1

    take a nathans bun length dog, cut small slits, press slices of garlic in, grill, place on bun with appropriate condiments (no ketchup please)
    consume.

  53. Elements of cooking by SWroclawski · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Mr Brown,

    I think that the most interesting part of your show to this audience is your emphasis on the science of cooking, from discussion of protein (such as in your angel foodcake episode and your recent souffle episode).

    But the other difference in Good Eats is the great emphasis you place on the parts of cooking, that is the elements at a more abstract level, such as use of heat, individual ingredients (which is the topic of many of the shows) and methods of cooking (such as the right way to mix and fold).

    This all makes Good Eats interesting for us geeks out there who want to understand the science, but also helps us non-cooking geeks become literate in the supermarket and kitchen.

    What gave you the idea to present cooking in this way and do you have any suggestions for other resources that present food and food preparation in the same way?

    - Serge Wroclawski

    1. Re:Elements of cooking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With regards to eating, I think most of the people here are more concerned with stuffing their flabby, sit-behind-a-computer-all-day-masturbating-to-hent ai-and-posting-banal-comments-to-slashdot-to-prove -my-self-proclaimed-intelligence-to-similar-people faces with another bag of greasy junk food than such complexities as the chemical reactions behind metabolism and the conversion of glucose to energy.

      IMHO, of course.

  54. Heart attack by age 45... by LGV · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Thanks for coming out with a show (and a cookbook) that finally tell me why I should cook in a certain way rather than just telling me that I should do it.

    Many of your recipes tend to be a high in fat (for example, deep fried mac and cheese). How often do you eat food like that? Do you worry you'll die of a heart attack by age 45?

    Thanks for the shows, I really enjoy them.

    1. Re:Heart attack by age 45... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you ever worry that you'll die of a ruptured colon from your extreme case of anal-retentiveness?

      We're all gonna die some day, man. Might as well enjoy some good food on the way there.

    2. Re:Heart attack by age 45... by amuro98 · · Score: 1

      If you've seen his episode about deepfrying, you'd know that if you fry properly, there won't be that much fat in the food you fried.

      This isn't to say that everything he makes would be considered health food - take his cheesecake episode where he points out "hey, I said it was easy...not healthy." His book also contains a blurb defending his use of salt in almost all of his dishes.

      Of course balance is the secret to any diet. If you're eating lots of fruit and veggies, an ocassional piece of cheesecake, or slab of deepfried mac&cheese isn't going to kill you...

  55. The Science of Good Eats. by thealpha · · Score: 0

    Where did the idea to put together such an ingenious, innovative and ground-breaking program, that not only showed people how to cook great food but takes it a step further into the science behind the food?

    Thank you,
    A freak you never misses an episode.

  56. Where do you get you Scientific Info? by evilned · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I watch your show quite a bit, and one thing, and in one show (the souffle one) you mention that most plastic has a similar structure to fat, so fat has a tendency to stick to it. My question is where do you get your scientific info? Do you have a background in science to find this out yourself, or do you have friends who have a chemistry background that gives you chemical reasons why cooking is done the way it is?

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    1. Re:Where do you get you Scientific Info? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He appears to have gotten a large deal of his info from this book: Cookwise. The author (a former research chemist) of which also lives in Atlanta and has been on the show on a number of occassions.

    2. Re:Where do you get you Scientific Info? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And how much to you check it?
      In at least one ep, I remember noticing what I thought was a wrong bit of info.

      Specifically, in the fruit ep. you said physical contact was the fastest method of heat transfer. From my studies in engineering, boiling heat transfer is significantly better. I understand that dry ice is safer to handle and simpler to get then liquid nitrogen if you want to freeze food, but how much does info get checked?

    3. Re:Where do you get you Scientific Info? by krama · · Score: 1

      Boiling is considered contact transfer as far as heat transfer is concerned.

      I went over this with my wife the Mechanical Engineer when I saw his book review the first time.

      I was trying to equate boiling with convection because I visualize it as a .

      Silly me!

    4. Re:Where do you get you Scientific Info? by labnrrd · · Score: 1

      Harold McGee, "On Food and Cooking." It is the most practical Food Science book about cooking. AB references it quite frequently, both in his book, or he likes to "wait" on his show by reading it. It is a little over $15 on amazon.

    5. Re:Where do you get you Scientific Info? by Dolohov · · Score: 2

      Heat transfer through liquid (Which is technically physical contact, BTW) is always going to be better than solid-to-solid transfer, because solids have little pits and cracks full of air, which is an excellent insulator. Liquid (such as boiling water or the oil in a deep fryer) seeps into those cracks and pits and transfers heat over a greater surface area.

  57. vegetarians? by bright+moments · · Score: 0

    Mr. Brown, since becoming a vegetarian, I've become aware that most chefs tend to have a strong anti-vegetarian bent. I understand that the majority of the population eat animals so it is most likely in the chef's best interest to serve meals that most people will recognize and be willing to eat (ie: a meal built around a main course of meat with vegetables in a supporting role). That's all well and good, but what about vegetarians. It seems that a lot of chefs are either outright anti-vegetarian (Ann Cashion or the guy that wrote the book about what happens in restaurant kitchens, Jacobson?) or think a plate of sides is all they can come up with for the non-meat eaters in the house. Do you perceive an anti-veg trend in professional chefs? My personal feeling is that they feel they can't make any money on vegetables, so they don't try. Why not take a frozen piece of seafood, call it the "special" of the day, mark it way up and make some easy money when you might actually have to sit down and think about a rounded meal for a vegetarian? What are your thoughts?

  58. Foods you *don't* like? by tmhsiao · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Given that your show has covered subjects ranging from eggplant (which most children hate) to gelatin (c'mon, there's always room for Jell-O!), you obviously have a wide variety of foods that you enjoy to prepare and eat.

    Are there any specific foods, however, which you expressly *DO NOT* like? Where the preparation is particularly odious, or where the cooking itself is tedious, or where you just plain don't like the taste?

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    1. Re:Foods you *don't* like? by autechre · · Score: 2


      This question has also already been answered. He used to not like yams, but now that his daughter likes them, he is getting to like them better. He still doesn't like lamb's eyes or liver.

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  59. Re:Alton by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No, it's not... He didn't say food + heat = MEAL,
    he said food + heat = COOKING. COOKING is a process which occasionally results in a meal or a part of a meal. It is certainly not the only process by which a meal can be made, however it is probably the most common.

    Your question is clever, it's just not smart.

  60. 10 Most Essential Cooking Tools by Bravo_Two_Zero · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've seen just about every episode (more than twice, my wife will vouch for that), and I know that the first question of cooking tools is usually quality. But, a close second is always multipurposity (yeah, I like making up the goofy phrase or two). Even those of us with significant kitchen budgets have a hard time acquiring a good collection of tools. What makes your top ten (or twelve, or twenty-two) list for essential, mutlitasking cooking tools?

    Heck, what are the ten things that should be in my fridge and pantry at all times?

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    Amateurs discuss tactics. Professionals discuss logistics.

    1. Re:10 Most Essential Cooking Tools by tempest303 · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      ...multipurposity...

      Oh my god! Dubya posts to slashdot!

      (sorry, couldn't help it... ;-)

    2. Re:10 Most Essential Cooking Tools by Zathrus · · Score: 2

      Sigh... so many people asking questions that are on his website or on the show website.

      If you want to see his list of "essential gear" look here.

  61. Multifunction devices by Miniluv · · Score: 1

    With a well known dislike for all but one single purpose device (the ever beloved fire extinguisher) you've obviously found lots of alternatives uses for common household items. Do you feel that this makes your food better or worse? What is the inspiration process for trying a new item out as, for example, a yogurt chiller or a smoker. Do you see an item and have it shout a new use at you, or is it that you're seeking out an alternative to the single purpose dev ice for a recipe or show and just find something that works after some trial and error?

  62. Food + Beer by DtMM · · Score: 1

    What's your favorite food/beer pairing? (What food, what beer?)

  63. Dear Anonymous Coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    Go fuck yourself you fat fucking balding sysadmin.
    Hey, I think my email is fucked up, I want to send Alton something, COME FUCKING FIX IT thanks.

    By the way, were you saying something?

  64. Cinematography roots by ergo98 · · Score: 1

    You began your adult life working as a cinematographer, and Good Eats displays it: Rather than another static set of cameras, or the hectic handheld jarred camera of shows like the Naked Chef, Good Eats is pleasantly watchable and remarkably entertaining. Without doubt you are a tremendous cook and brilliant teacher, but would you say that your cinematography input into what was a tired food show industry is what brought you and your show into the limelight?

  65. Other science / tech interests besides Food? by veddermatic · · Score: 2

    Your interest in science as related to food is obvious, but are you a geek for other things as well?? What other technology / science to you follow, and are you a Slashdotter by any chance (or will you become one now??

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  66. Effects of Diet on Flavor by JohnsonWax · · Score: 2

    (or How Can I Make Use of this Seemingly Useless Information from College)

    Anthropologists working with communities that practice cannibalism have reported that individuals can more-or-less peg a persons origin based on how they taste - presumably through their diet.

    How much variation in flavor can you get in chicken, beef, etc. just through the animals diet?

    Additionally, what is it in the makeup of the meat that makes the smell so distinctive. What makes beef taste like beef and chicken like chicken? I would think that beef flavored chicken would be quite a hit for the environment.

    1. Re:Effects of Diet on Flavor by ncc74656 · · Score: 2
      How much variation in flavor can you get in chicken, beef, etc. just through the animals diet?

      Over in England, everything (chicken, beef, etc.) tastes fishy to some extent because fish meal is a significant percentage of the feed. There are workarounds (remove chicken skin, for instance), but it was generally difficult to get meat that didn't taste funny.

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    2. Re:Effects of Diet on Flavor by LetterJ · · Score: 1

      Venison (from white tail deer) in Minnesota tastes very different in the northern parts of the state versus the southern part of the state. Northern deer taste much more "wild" (due to eating things like pine needles) than their southern relatives (who spend their time in cornfields). The southern deer taste much more like beef than the northern ones.

    3. Re:Effects of Diet on Flavor by will_die · · Score: 1

      Very much. The easiest may to check this yourselve is with cattle. Try a grass feed cow to a corn feed cow and thier is a huge difference in taste.

  67. Your website by tswinzig · · Score: 2

    Could you change the color scheme on your website so that I don't go blind while trying to read it?

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  68. What do you think of GM food? by linzeal · · Score: 1
    As a staunch advocate of space colonization I see GM foods as the only option when considering the difficulties in adapting food grown in a 1 G, radiation protected, and soil-rich enviroment to be reliably harvested elsewhere. Organic food and its methods of cultivation imho may have been a boon when the agricultural revolution happened eons ago, but now seem an anachronism that is relentlessly romanticized for politics and profit.

    I do not support patents, and especially not on living things. So do not assume GM food would have us at the whim of some massive corporate biotech cartel like the RIAA is with music.

  69. Technical questions by TheJerkstoreCalled · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Hello! I actually watched your very first show about steak here in PBS, it was the first thing in my life that made me interested in cooking. Every time I watch an episode of Good Eats, I always end it wanting to go cook something.

    I had a technical question, we always see these shots coming out of refrigerators and ovens. Do you actually have little windows in the back of your appliances or are those props built up for the shows? I always assumed they were props but you never know. Also, is that really your house you shoot in? I love the Magritte hate with chicken painting.

    1. Re:Technical questions by Salden · · Score: 1

      The newer shows (season 5+) use a house purchased specifically for the show and to my knowledge, noone lives there. The older house was someone's actual residence but not Alton's.

    2. Re:Technical questions by GregGardner · · Score: 1

      I figured he has some little small pinhole type camera that he places in the back of the oven (which I also assume isn't actually on at the time) or refrigerator to get those shots. That's my guess anyway.

    3. Re:Technical questions by jimmcq · · Score: 2
      is that really your house you shoot in?

      From the Good Eats Fan Page FAQ:

      Where are the kitchen scenes from seasons 1 to 4 shot?
      They are shot in a real home in the Atlanta area but the house does not belong to Alton.

      Where are the kitchen scenes from season 5 and on?
      Beginning with season #5, Alton's own production company, Be Squared, began shooting Good Eats. My sources say that they purchased a real house--also in the Atlanta area--solely for use by his company. No one actually lives there.


  70. Book and baking? by Lumpish+Scholar · · Score: 2

    Your book covers searing, grilling, roasting, frying, boiling, braising, brining, and microwaving ... but not baking. Did it not fit, or are you saving it for the next book, or what?

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  71. Good Programming Eats!! by cyberlotnet · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Can you give us some recipes that are

    1. Cheap ( half the geeks in the world are unemployeed since the bubble burst )

    2. Fast to cook ( We aint got time to spend on some fancy meal, we got programming to do )

    3. Easy to make ( Give us a manual on C no problem, give most of us a cook book ,we use it to raise our monitor up a few more inches )

  72. Are you a Food Geek or a Production Geek? by +wuertele · · Score: 1

    Your food shows are the most interesting productions I've ever seen. I loved it when you used barbie and ken to explain why not to salt oatmeal. Fancy that, a food show with a sense of humor. I would say that the entertainment quality of your shows is more consistent than the reproducability of your results (I've tried...) Would you say that you are more of a food geek, or more of a video production geek? If the latter, will we be seeing you branching out into other educational venues?

  73. Cooking Philosophies by Grond · · Score: 2

    Consider two cooks/chefs, both having practiced their art for 30 or 40 years. Both receive rave reviews from those they serve and both have a wide repertoire to choose from. One is a 50 year-old grandmother and the other is chef at a 5-star restaurant. Do you think there is a difference between the cooking of a 'classically trained' chef and an ordinary person who has simply cooked for long enough to 'know their way around the kitchen?'

    I consider in particular that a lot of chef schools and restaurants emphasize learning certain basic skills such as chopping onions and making sauces (or at least they use the student chefs as cheap labor to accomplish those uninteresting but important kitchen tasks), whereas a person teaching a child or grandchild to cook might just dive in to a complete meal. So, do you think cooking philosophies matter, or even exist as a useful way to differentiate chefs and/or cuisine?

    1. Re:Cooking Philosophies by gleam · · Score: 2

      Me, I think the restaurant cook will have far more exposure to different cooking techniques and recipes than the grandmother, and so may have much more creativity in the dishes presented.

      For example, you aren't likely to see wasabi mashed potatoes at your grandmother's house, but it's fairly common in a restaurant nowadays.

      -gleam

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  74. Outdoor taste indoors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Given a small apartment, an electric stove, and reasonable budget, how would you prepare flame-seared-tasting meats, hotdogs/hamburgers, indoors without a fire permit?

  75. Eating.. how much, how often? by veddermatic · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I love cooking, and I love eating. What is your take on how often / how much to eat? There's the traditional "3 meals a day" we all grew up with, and various other toughts on the subject like the "six small meals a day" and "one huge meal in the AM, and just a few snacks the rest of the day"

    What's your take... how often do you eat a day, or do you not "plan" eating, and just eat whenever hungry or at non-structured intervals?

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    1. Re:Eating.. how much, how often? by Salden · · Score: 1

      HINAN (He is not a Nutritionist) but he certainly knows one who could answer this.

  76. And after eating naturally fallen fruit ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... don't just crap out the seeds into a sterile porcelain bowl and flush them away. Take a dump out in the yard, or in your neighbor's yard. And do it in a different place each time!

  77. the big questions by futuresheep · · Score: 1

    Slaw on or slaw off? Instant or not? Gas or charcoal? Sauce on top, or sauce on the side? Bun or no bun?

    1. Re:the big questions by wilhelm · · Score: 1

      He did a show on grillin' (which was quite good), and answered your question: charcoal. And preferrably not the mass-produced briquet stuff either, lump charcoal all the way.

  78. Playing with food by Nipok+Nek · · Score: 1

    Can you recommend a way to get out of the food rut...

    When I'm not hungry, I don't want to cook.
    When I AM hungry, I don't want to experiment, since I'm hungry!

    Lather, Rinse, Repeat.

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  79. Is Beef Bad? by foghorn666 · · Score: 1
    I've read a number of books lately suggesting that beef is A) horribly contaminated with fecal matter and e-coli bacteria (see Fast Food Nation) or B) full of deadly prions that cause mad cow disease and could be leading us to a massive global health crisis (see Deadly Feasts).

    While I'd never bought any of the arguments for vegetarianism before, and I have a hard time imagining giving up red meat, both of these books are written by respected journalists (one a pulitzer prize winner) and both make beef seem scary as hell. Have you analyzed the controversy over the safety of beef at all, and what's your take? Are you worried about e-coli or mad cow? Should we be?

  80. apocalypse by frantzen · · Score: 1

    when the four horsemen come riding into your kitchen and the apocalypse is upon us, what one utensil/tool/object will you try to escape with?

    and you can't bribe the horsemen with any good eats. they're not hungry ;-)

    1. Re:apocalypse by Apocalypse111 · · Score: 1

      What the hell are you talking about? I'm starving ;-)

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    2. Re:apocalypse by Dr.Dubious+DDQ · · Score: 1
      you can't bribe the horsemen with any good eats. they're not hungry ;-)

      Not even Famine? :-)

  81. Beer for Life by DnemoniX · · Score: 1

    Mr. Brown:
    First off, I have to say, love the show, love the book. I went out and bought it right after I read the review of it here and read it cover to cover in a day. My question is more of a suggestion. You have an obvious good taste in beers judging from your show and your book. I do a little brewing myself and after seeking many of your episodes where you recreate a comercial product at home, ala yogurt etc. One thing I would love to see on your show is Root Beer. The history, the science, the methodology and a couple good recipies. Any chance of that in the future?

  82. Campfire Cooking by Amoeba+Protozoa · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Dear Alton,

    I just came back from a trip in the great hinterlands of Minnesota, so this question is spawned from recent culinary experience:

    If you were sent out to the middle of nowhere and had some time to prepare for the trip, what sorts of equipment would you take along and what dishes would you prepare? For the sake of keeping it simple, let's say you had to cook a brekfast and dinner over a campfire. What would you make to really wow your fellow campers using as few ingredients and as little equpiment as possible?

    Thank you,

    -AP

    1. Re:Campfire Cooking by topham · · Score: 2

      I'd like to change this a bit:

      If your restricted by weight, what would you do?
      (ie: the difference between camping, hiking, etc).

      What are the most important tools? A camp stove, or a campfire... etc..

    2. Re:Campfire Cooking by Tungsten+Chef · · Score: 1

      As a fellow fan of the hinterlands of Minnesota, this is a question I've definately pondered. My best friend in the woods is a Brinkmann propane Somke n Grill. You can use it as a water smoker for truely great bbq, or convert it into a gas grill, stove, or charcoal grill. Some very easy non barbecue favorites include ghetto scrambled eggs (eggs + onion + leftover Taco Bell sauce packets and Pizza Hut peppers + American cheese = unbelievably good). A great lunch idea is to make giant subs. 2 loaves of French bread, 2 pounds of assorted deli meat (or was that 3 pounds?), onions, tomatoes, green peppers, provolone cheese, and a bottle of Italian dressing were surprisingly fun and simple to assemble outdoors into behemoth sandwhiches with just a serrated knife and a cutting board.

  83. Series on DVD? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    DVD box set - when? Please!!!

  84. Is that a Vacheron Constantin or a Panerai? by +wuertele · · Score: 1

    I can never get a close enough look... The watch and the shirts are fly, but dude that Margritte inspired turkey on your wall needs to go.

  85. Carbohydrates (& cholesterol) by jorjb · · Score: 1
    Given all of the stir in the recent press about Atkins-like low-carb diets (which seems to have started from the New York Times article on the subject, I think this is certainly apropos.

    Whenever I hear about low-carb diets, I hear "weight loss" with a smidgeon of "may help cholesterol." I'm not interested in weight loss... so what about their affect on cholesterol? How the heck to refined Carbs turn into Cholesterol? Why don't unrefined carbs do the same (or do they)? C'mon, Alton! You've got the scientific bend to do this one right!

  86. What would you recomend by aengblom · · Score: 2

    Other than your book/show. How would you recomend learning to cook. Books and other things welcome. (Not to be a chef, just feed myself healthy and tasty treats for the regular 9-6er.)

    I've only seen your show once (Angel food cake), but I was immediately taken up with your approach to cooking. It immediately seemed that this was how I should learn. IMO to cook is to be able to take a number of food items and to create a decent meal. I can't do that. So many books, cooking shows, etc don't understand the truly beginner chef. How do I "stir" this best etc. etc. My girlfriend laughs at me that I asked her how to cut some vegetable... but the thing is that certain foods DO have certain ways to cut them. It was a breath of fresh air that you were EXACT and explained WHY. I don't have time to cook every day and learn the craft. I'm hungry NOW! ;-). And usually it's pull out George F. throw some unmarinated frozen (oops forgot to defrost)chicken on it and place on some rice and peas.

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    1. Re:What would you recomend by aengblom · · Score: 2

      P.S. You arrive home--hungry. The chicken/beef is still frozen like a rock

      Do you (or rather should I)
      A: Microwave
      B: Just throw it on the grill anyway
      C: Put it in some hot water (this takes longer than it should though it seems ;-) )
      D: Just go out to eat.

      Or any other super useful trick? (Throw salt on it maybe ;-) Melt chicken Melt!)

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    2. Re:What would you recomend by arnie_apesacrappin · · Score: 2
      I would suggest a modification of C. Hot water will cook the outside of your food before the inside thaws. I use lukewarm (room temp.) water. The problem you have is that you need to make sure the water stays about room temp. If you have 4 frozen chicken breasts in a good size bowl, the water temp will get fairly low (~45F) fairly quickly. If you replace the water with roomtemp water every 5 min or so (or just leave the water running, but that's wasteful), your food will thaw more quickly, and it won't be precooked either.

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    3. Re:What would you recomend by gerardrj · · Score: 2

      Leaving the water running slowly is not more wasteful than emptying/refilling the bowls several times.

      If it takes 5 gallons of warm tap-water to thaw something. it's no more or less wasteful to use that 5 gallons in "chunks' or at a slow continuous drizzle.

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    4. Re:What would you recomend by Firinne · · Score: 1

      I believe Alton addresses this in his Duck episode... Running water defrosts meat even faster than sticking it in the oven would, however, you want to make sure that the water and the meat never get above 40 degrees. Once it gets above 40 degrees, bacteria starts to reproduce exponentially.

      Food should be thawed in the refrigerator, or in the microwave (and then cooked immediately afterward). If you try thawing on the counter, or under warm running water, then (as Alton would say), sooner or later you're going to get that all-expense paid trip to the hospital.

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  87. Cooktops, ovens, etc. by slow_flight · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Alton - I can't help but notice that your kitchen has quite a bit of high-end Viking appliances in it. I'm in the process of designing the kitchen for my new house, but doubt if my budget will allow for such high-end appliances. What features of the Viking appliances are the most important to you, and which are just "nice to haves?" For example, after the millionth cleaning of the undertrays on my range, I'm sold on the idea of sealed burners. I also find it difficult to get a low enough heat on my burners to simmer a delicate sauce, so I'm sold on the idea of at least one low-BTU burner. What else should I be looking for in my Viking-like but not quite Viking appliances? And are there benefits to going with a cook top and wall oven as opposed to a range? One more: I'm considering going with a gas cooktop and an electric convection wall oven - thoughts? Ok, one more: any thoughts on Advantium "cook with light" ovens?

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    1. Re:Cooktops, ovens, etc. by Zathrus · · Score: 2

      Good Eats is sponsored by Viking Range company... whether that's because Mr. Brown likes their products, or because they're the sponsor is a good question, but it may not be one he can answer without incurring the wrath of the sponsor.

    2. Re:Cooktops, ovens, etc. by autechre · · Score: 2


      He's actually stated in an interview that he would have used Viking on the show, because he likes them, but he doesn't have Viking at home because he can't afford it. He won't endorse products in combination with Good Eats, even if he likes them, for various reasons. Read the (nice, long) interview here:

      http://www.goodeatsfanpage.com

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    3. Re:Cooktops, ovens, etc. by linzeal · · Score: 1

      If you look at restaurant supply stores sometimes they have used professional appliances for ridiculous prices. Especially in areas that economically are sliding down the scale from a high point like silicon valley.

    4. Re:Cooktops, ovens, etc. by toren · · Score: 2, Funny

      [why Viking ranges?]

      Someone asked this at a local book signing, and he mentioned that (as well as being nice) Viking makes some ovens that are deeper than normal, and are better for fitting a 3CCD pro DV camcorder. :)

      He also mentioned that if you're going to stuff video equipment in ovens, make sure you check inside each oven before you turn it on, because "Nothing Sony makes tastes good."

      -tbone

    5. Re:Cooktops, ovens, etc. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Warning about professional "restaurant" stoves -- they are NOT designed to be used in a house. They're not insulated, for one, and would probably set your cabinets on fire. If you have kids, they might get a 2nd-degree burn from touching the oven door (I have several burns on my arms from carelessness and not wearing long sleeves.)

      Also, mine weighs at least 750#, so a residential kitchen would need significant floor bracing.

      Another huge issue is ventilation. 6 burners plus an oven can put out ~200,000 BTUs, which is more than an apartment building furnace in Chicago. Imagine just the 7 standing pilot lights pumping out carbon monoxide and heat.

      Vikings are expensive because they are residential-level insulated. Also they have a residential warranty.

      There was a profile of Viking in the New Yorker last month.

      FYI, I have an American Range / DCS brand.
      My $.02

    6. Re:Cooktops, ovens, etc. by tybalt44 · · Score: 1

      Viking have made it a deliberate policy to advertise their wares by product placement on cooking shows. As I understand it, their rationale is that as a premium-price product, they need to create the impression that their stoves, ranges, etc. are "high-end" or high quality.

      It does seem to be working, as Viking can't keep up with demand.

      I've used a Viking range and was very impressed.

    7. Re:Cooktops, ovens, etc. by slow_flight · · Score: 2

      Good points. I've always wondered about the Jenn-Air side draft cooktops - hard to believe a side draft can adequately handle a 6 burner cooktop.

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  88. Theater + Cooking = Geekiness? by Lumpish+Scholar · · Score: 2

    You got into cooking via a theater degree and television work; an unconventional path, but you're an unconventional guy.

    How did that background lead to a geeky approach to cooking, with lots of molecular diagrams and discussions of physics?

    (I use "unconventional" and "geeky" as compliments, and hope you take them that way. You and Nigella Dawson do the most distinctive, and most enjoyable, cooking shows I've seen, each in its own way.)

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  89. MSG by DtMM · · Score: 1

    Why does monosodium glutamate have such a bad rap? According to the FDA, science has provided no evidence to support the "Chinese Restaurant Syndrome". Since most consider glutamate-trigged "umami" to be the fifth taste after salty, sweet, sour, and bitter, why is poor MSG treated so ignorantly?

    1. Re:MSG by topham · · Score: 2

      As someone who knows several people who get headaches from it I can tell you this: MSG is crap.

      It serves no actual usefull purpose that cannot be found elsewhere. Its crap.

      Only a bad Chinese resturaunt would use it.

      It's crap.

      It doesn't belong in food.

    2. Re:MSG by DtMM · · Score: 2, Informative
      This is precisely the kind of ignorance I'm talking about. Knowing people who claim to get headaches is not scientific evidence!

      First, a few facts:
      • Glutamate is an amino acid that naturually occurs in the body (as a neurotransmitter, for example).
      • Eating glutamate does not affect the concentration of this amino acid in the brain (therefore, you can't eat it and cause a headache).
      • Glutamate occurs naturally in many foods, including tomatoes, milk, mushrooms, peas, parmesean cheese, and seaweed, to name a few.
      • Glutamate has been shown in scientific studies to help people with poorly functioning taste buds increase their consumption of food (the elderly, for example).
      • Scientists have shown that taste receptors on the tongue respond only to glutamate and not to any other combination of sweet, salty, sour, or bitter. The taste has been named "umami", or the "savory" flavor.
      • Glutamate was first identified by a Japanese scientist way back in the early 1900's. Japanese broth (dashi), which is as common as chicken broth in the west, is made from seaweed containing loads of glutamate.
      • Monosodium glutamate is simply a convenient salt form of this naturally occuring amino acid.

      Tongue experiments:
      Try eating some very, very rich plain tomato sauce. After you swallow, you can taste a lingering flavor on the back of your tongue. It's kind of an earthy, savory, meaty flavor. That's the naturally occuring glutamate in the tomato. A minute later, place a few crystals of monosodium glutamate on your tongue. You will taste the exact same earthy, savory flavor from the MSG.

      After you've identified the flavor, you'll be able to easily taste it in mushrooms, good parmesean cheese, meat broth, and milk. If you've ever have miso soup in a Japanese restaurant, you can definitely taste it from the natural seaweed in the dashi broth.

      The caveat:
      Some people have been shown to react negatively to monosodium glutamate (it is not an allergy). It's a very small percent of the population. Saying MSG is bad for everyone would be like saying peanuts were bad for everyone because some people are allergic to peanuts.

      A few references:
      FDA MSG - Safe
      FDA - Some MSG Findings
      Chart of glutamate naturally occurring in foods
      Society for Research on Umami Taste
    3. Re:MSG by topham · · Score: 2

      The point to it is: there is not need to MSG.

      While a similar, naturally occuring checmical exists doesn't mean a 'synthetic' is a good choice. (synthetic as in: Not naturally occuring in foods, used for some godawfull reason not having anything to do with good cooking).

      By the way, for me, anything with MSG tastes like it has a 1/2lb of salt. Not kidding. 'course, to me pure, white sugar has a metallic flavour. Maybe I'm just strange.

      On the other hand, naturally occuring forms in food don't bother me, or anyone I know.

      Don't get me wrong here, I'm fully aware that 'I know people who get headaches' isn't scientific. I also know that MSG isn't usefull in good food under normal conditions.

      But hey, you want to eat it, go ahead. Me, I'm not a fan.

  90. What should EVERYONE know how to cook well? by SuperRob · · Score: 2

    There are a lot of people out there that only know how to cook one dish, but in your opinion, what one dish do you think EVERYONE should know how to cook to perfection? Personally, I grill a pretty great steak, and the secret to it is pretty easy ... so I'd say grilling meats, but I'd like to know if there's something else you'd consider to be crucial to everyone's cooking arsenal.

  91. How did you aquire you body of knowledge. by Torinaga-Sama · · Score: 1

    AB,

    I understand and appreciate your scientific approach towards cooking and find your show terribly entertaining. How did you come to your current understanding of cooking. Was it trial and error? Is your educational background in food or science? Can you reccomend any other reading materials as a must have, besides of course your own book (on my Amazon wish list awaiting an Angel)?

    Thank you,

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  92. When did you begin to focus on the bare essentials by compugeek007 · · Score: 1
    This is kind of a long question, hope you don't mind

    Many food shows tend to focus on fancy ingredients bought at stores that only exist in downtown NYC made with special tools that normally an average person would not own.

    With your training at the New England Culinary institute, I know you must understand and have cooked "gourmet" cuisine. Yet on your show, you shop at Kroger's, use hardware store items instead of specialized cooking instruments and focus on the types of food we eat everyday (Pot Roast, Steak, Potatoes, Mac and Cheese.) Is there a secret that we non-gourmet types should be let in on? Should we catapult the notion that fancy meals with French names and odd ingredients is what you need to have an exquisite meal? Or are you a secret gourmet type sneaking into uber-hip Manhattan restaurants that only server beet foam with caviar and ramps?

    BTW - your recipes are great, I don't know if you have heard this before but you are the new guard of America soul cooking.

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  93. Instructional videos by kilonad · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I know that your show touches on the science behind the cooking, but episodes tend to deal with only one specific food (and granted, many ways to cook it). What I'd love to see is a set of instructional videos that give an overview of basic kitchenology, like build the perfect kitchen piece by piece, or what the different methods of heating food are, etc. Have you ever considered releasing such a thing?

  94. Lower Fat and Cholesterol? by cporter · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Mr. Brown, I love your recipes. In the last few weeks, I've prepared Chocolate Mousse, Party Mayonaisse, Chimney Tuna, and Baba Ganoush from "Good Eats" and Chicken Piccata from "I'm Just Here for the Food." Not all at one meal, of course.

    I applaud episodes like "Good Milk Gone Bad" and "The Other Red Meat" that focus on lower fat and cholesterol foods. But many of your recipes call for butter, oil, cream, and other less than healthful foods (even bacon grease!). What do you think about some of the substitutes out there, or using ingredients like applesauce to replace butter?

    Thank You
    Chris

    1. Re:Lower Fat and Cholesterol? by Coolfish · · Score: 4, Insightful

      dietary intake of cholesterol has absolutely no effect on blood cholesterol levels. It's got more to do with transfatty acids and the like. Lower fat in and of itself is silly - take look at all the low-fat foods out there, and how many fat people there are. Now take a look at the ingredients of those low fat foods - fat tastes good, without it, you need something else so that the "food" is palpatable. And what's in the top 3 ingredients for all these low fat foods? Sugar. Empty calories that merely rape the pancreas, skyrocket blood sugar levels, and cause diabetes (is it any wonder in the early 1900s the average person ate less than 2 lbs of sugar per year, and now it is typically over 150 lbs! Any wonder diabetes has skyrocketed?)

      Read Alton's book, he talks about different fats and cholesterol, and notes just how silly and misguided current low-fat trends are.

    2. Re:Lower Fat and Cholesterol? by cporter · · Score: 2
      Lower fat in and of itself is silly - take look at all the low-fat foods out there, and how many fat people there are...And what's in the top 3 ingredients for all these low fat foods? Sugar. Empty calories...

      I'm not sure what prompted this rant; I'm certainly not in favor of anyone, especially Alton, dumping good food in favor of Snackwell's. And I have read Alton's book. I'm simply interested in knowing what substitute ingredients are healthy and tasty. He uses yogurt in place of cream in some recipes; Any more like this? The "applesauce in place of butter" example is another i'm interested in.

      The fact is, there's only one reason people are overweight: too many calories. If you consume more calories than you burn, you will gain weight. Burn more than you consume and you will lose weight. Fat has 9 calories per gram versus about 4 calories per gram for proteins and carbohydrates.

      notes just how silly and misguided current low-fat trends are.

      No, he doesn't. He comment on the relationship between cholesterol consumed and blood cholesterol levels. He discusses the difference between types of fats (saturated and mono- and poly-unsaturated). He mostly espouses a balanced diet that includes plenty of fruits, grains, and vegetables, especially those with high fiber, but with the occasional seafood, dairy, and meat. Dessert optional once in a while. Certainly anyone can see that consuming 3,000 calories of sugar in order to have a zero-fat diet is asinine.

  95. question by MattW · · Score: 2

    It doesn't surprise me to see you here. I've thought for a long time that the scientific bent of your show had geek appeal, and I certainly enjoy it. What are your interests outside of cooking?

  96. Lifestyles of celebrity cooks by buddhaunderthetree · · Score: 1

    As a native of Atlanta I just love seeing local shops featured on your show. How has the fame that come along with Good Eats sucess changed your life? Can you eat at a restaurant in peace? Do you find every food supplier in town lobbying to appear on your show?

    P.S.
    My wife wants to know who is W.

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  97. Cooking In Lava by MrIcee · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Mr Brown. First, thank you for a wonderful television show and an excellant book. I enjoy both continually and look forward to all your new work.

    Now... on to, perhaps, one of the more unusual questions you might receive. This question deals directly with how heat affects food.

    Specifically... I live on the slopes of an active volcano. One of the things we like to do for fun is cook game hen and pork loins in the hot lava itself. First, let me describe our process, and then our question.

    To cook a game hen we first season and then wrap the hen in about 10 Ti (or banana) leaves. These protect the hen from actually burning.

    Next we find an active surface breakout of lava. We use a shovel (we also are wearing kevlar gloves that can withstand 2000 degrees of heat) and get a good shovel full of red lava. We place this on the ground a distance from the flow. We then position the Ti-wrapped hen in the middle of the blob of lava and cover it with another shovel full of lava. We try to leave a small opening to the Ti leaves, for steam to escape (or we can potentially have a steam explosion).

    Now, the question. The lava is initially at 2000 degrees when we start cooking. After about 15 minutes it has cooled to around 850 degrees (outside of the rock - we read this using an infrared pyrometer). After about 45 minutes the outside is about 450 degrees. At that point we hit the rock with the shovel to open it. Only a few of the Ti leaves will remain uncharred. We remove those and the hen is then very moist and delicious.

    How is it possible, using a heat source at 2000 degrees (that granted, gets cooler over time) that it still takes 45 minutes to cook the game hen? We would have thought that the cooking would have been near instantanous - but repeated experiments at various lengths of time reveal that it takes exactly as long in the lava, as in an oven.

    If you would like to view pictures of this process... click here.

    Aloha

    1. Re:Cooking In Lava by IvyMike · · Score: 2

      My guess: The temperature inside the wad of leaves is exactly 212 degrees Fahrenheit, the temperature that water from the leaves turns to steam. It doesn't matter if it's in the oven or in the lava; that internal temperature is exactly the same. I do bet that you end up charring the leaves much worse in the lava, though.

      Neat technique, though.

    2. Re:Cooking In Lava by schussat · · Score: 2
      We would have thought that the cooking would have been near instantanous - but repeated experiments at various lengths of time reveal that it takes exactly as long in the lava, as in an oven.

      Wow -- now I'm curious, too. So this makes for a neat party trick, but not a way to make instant roast game hen. I imagine this has something to do with the heat conductivity of the leaves, akin to the fact that you can put your head in a 350 F oven and not immediately get burned, but hold onto the metal rack in the same oven and it's blister city. The leaves (or the surface of the lava? The lack of air inside the wrapped-up bird?) must have something to do with it. But wow, 2000 degrees F? That's hot.

      -schussat

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    3. Re:Cooking In Lava by linzeal · · Score: 1

      Isn't there a problem with heavy metals in the lava getting into the food?

    4. Re:Cooking In Lava by MrIcee · · Score: 2
      Isn't there a problem with heavy metals in the lava getting into the food?

      We were initially worried about this as well. But when the food is done there are still at least 2 or 3 Ti leaves completely enclosing the hen that have not burned (the rest are pure charcoal at this point).

      Actually, we were more worried about small shards of lava glass exploding inwards into the hen, but this doesn't happen as well.

      One way we feel pretty confident that the gasses arn't making it into the bird is dues to the fact that the bird tastes correct - with no taste of sulphur, etc... that you would expect.

      One explanation MIGHT be that the moisture and steam in the bird forces the gases out, not in (remember, we keep a steam escape hole, since we had one bird blow up on us, not a pretty site... Bird and volcanic glass everywhere :).

      Aloha

    5. Re:Cooking In Lava by sethg · · Score: 2

      The temperature of the outside of the lava blob is not as relevant as you might think. Once the lava that touches the food has hardened into rock, it insulates the food from the rest of the blob. The hole that lets steam get out is also letting cooler air in, which would accelerate the hardening process. The outer layer of lava, whose temperature you are measuring with the pyrometer, is radiating most of its heat into the surrounding air, not into your food.

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    6. Re:Cooking In Lava by iiii · · Score: 2
      we also are wearing kevlar gloves that can withstand 2000 degrees of heat

      Liar!! I can see you in the picture there, no gloves!!

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    7. Re:Cooking In Lava by MrIcee · · Score: 2
      Liar!! I can see you in the picture there, no gloves!!

      Actually, the person in the picture is not myself. That is John Alexander, owner of the Dolphin Bay Hotel, and the person who introduced me to cooking in lava (also my hiking partner).

      You are right of course, that he does not have the gloves on in that photo. However, the person with the gloves on is myself so that I can hold the hen against the first blob of lava while he drops the second blob on. (you only get to see me in the last picture, where my hand is reaching greedly for a piece of the meat).

      We tend to use the gloves only when the surface flow is positioned such that it is too hot to stand to get that close. But that's only because we've hiked in lava flows, done sculptures in lava (we take a kitchen wisk and dip it into the lava to make *art* - you must use the gloves for that)... so we're used to it :)

      Also, on the picture link, you will notice that I also have hyperlinks to the gloves that we use.

  98. Homebrew! by Lumpish+Scholar · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I look forward to this season's forthcoming episode on homebrewing. (Beer, guys, not electronics.)

    Can you please say a few things about how you feel about beer: drinking it, cooking with it, brewing it yourself?

    ("Relax, don't worry, have a homebrew.")

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    1. Re:Homebrew! by Apocalypse111 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      How about as an addendum to this question, when making beer-brats, does it make a big difference what kind of beer you use, and more importantly, which beer tastes best in a beer-brat?? (my vote is for Guiness)

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    2. Re:Homebrew! by shayne321 · · Score: 2
      Along these same lines, do you have any guaranteed hangover cures, for those mornings after you've had WAAY too much to drink and have to be able to function at work or school that day?

      Shayne

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    3. Re:Homebrew! by FortKnox · · Score: 1

      Read gmhowell's journal. He's always home-brewing something and writes entries on it.

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    4. Re:Homebrew! by mofolotopo · · Score: 1

      Ooooh! That reminds me! I've always wanted to see an episode about making your own cheeses. I've done a vinegar cheese, feta, labneh, and one insanely over-salted hard cheese that really doesn't fit a category. It's a hard and disappearing art, and I would LOVE some pointers.

  99. Influence of previous career on Good eats by enrico_suave · · Score: 2

    It's my understanding you used to work at an ad agency or other type of marketing gig. Do you use some of the same creative juices to come up with some of the parodies and themes for the show?

    E.

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  100. Why should you get half the time emeril does? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Love your show. However when will foodTV make your show a 1 hour show instead of 1/2?

  101. Healthy, Quick (and Veggie) by Hairy+Fop · · Score: 1

    As most techies are lazy, and a few of those need to lose a few pounds, are there any good techiques and ingredients to start experimenting with.

    Food that's veggie and tasty (no they're not mutially exclusive) that your normally rib-eye steak munching techie would be happy to eat and might even make them live a little longer, or ...going out on a limb here... leave his/her chair and get a bit of exercise.

  102. Vegan-Friendly Cusine Fundamentals? by Bravo_Two_Zero · · Score: 2

    Had to ask this one since the other vegetarian post was moderated out...

    I'm not a vegan or vegetarian, but my wife and several acquaintances are. There's quite a bit of selection in the frozen foods section, and you've certainly covered several recipies that are at least vegetarian (the tofu episode was, certainly, inspired). I'd like to be able to cook a meal that would be tasty for all palettes without using the ingredients the vegan crowd would find objectionable.

    Are there some fundamental steps to preparing tasty, vegan-friendly meals in the way of getting meat substitutes and seasonings to work in harmony? Are there ingredients that significantly enhance popular vegetarian fare that typically don't make it into the dish?

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  103. Works well in a slow cooker by linzeal · · Score: 1
    Beans and Starch

    Take 1 part dry Lentils, Black Beans, Red Beans, etcetera (you have to soak some beans overnight, this is easy if you eat this everyday like I did, or you can do what I eventually did, soak the beans and rice in the slow cooker and plugged it into a timer to turn it on in the morning if I wasn't home)

    Add 1 part Cut potatoes, rice (not quick cooking kind), and not pasta unless you want mush. If you want to add pasta, throw it in about 30 minutes before you want to eat.

    Add spices about 10 minutes before you eat, this stuff freezes well and lasts about 7 days refrigerated. Sausage, hot dogs, and stew meat is optional but welcome.

    1. Re:Works well in a slow cooker by Tackhead · · Score: 2
      > Take 1 part dry Lentils, Black Beans, Red Beans, etcetera (you have to soak some beans overnight, this is easy if you eat this everyday like I did, or you can do what I eventually did, soak the beans and rice in the slow cooker and plugged it into a timer to turn it on in the morning if I wasn't home)

      Long as we're onto slow-cooking and fun with starch, try "Soubise". (Frogspeak for "onions and rice".)

      1) 2 big-azz yellow onions, about a pound's worth. Slice 'em.
      2) 1/2 cup rice. Boil for 5 minutes. You don't want the rice cooked.
      3) 1/2 to 3/4 sticks of butter. (4-6 tbls.)
      4) 1/2 tsp salt.
      5) 1/2 cup whipping cream. (Or you can get away with milk, but I like it with cream. )
      5) a few slices (1/4 cup) of swiss cheese.

      Melt butter in crock pot or casserole. Toss in onions and salt until coated with melted butter and starting to soften. Toss in rice.

      Bake mucho-slowly for an hour or so (easy enough - you can't overcook this :) at 300F. The onions disintegrate, leach out their water, turn insanely sweet, and flavor the rice. (Should be nice and yellow, not brown, when done baking.)

      Take out of oven, nuke milk to warm, and toss in the milk. Stir in the cheese. Nice and creamy.

      (If you wanna make a sauce, you can puree this and call it a sauce soubise.)

      I find it also makes a great side dish all on its own, just heaped out of the dish. You can also sprinkle the top with cheese and bake a layer of cheese onto it. Or stir in some fresh parsley along with the cheese. It's versatile stuff.

      If you're a carnivore (I am), it's also great with a splash of gravy or anything really thick and rich, like what you'd get if you pan-fried a steak and made a sauce out of the juices, or sauteed a pile of mushrooms. And it's just plain awesome with a big hunk of roasted or braised game or a leg o' lamb.

    2. Re:Works well in a slow cooker by linzeal · · Score: 1

      I like things like this with greens, kale or spinach to be precise. Swiss and greens is a combination inextricably linked to a sense of satiety, I don't why.

  104. Many of the questions so far can be found at... by IvyMike · · Score: 5, Informative

    Many of the answers to some of the questions asked so far can be found at www.altonbrown.com and also at (especially check the FAQS on this site).

    I mention this because I'd like to see slashdot add to the internet's collective pool of Alton Brown knowledge, not repeat stuff that we already known.

  105. Balancing the plate by digitallis · · Score: 1

    Is there a good rule of thumb for balancing flavor? There are a lot of things that we wouldn't necessarily think of combining in outr foods that turn out to be suprisingly good. (IE: squeezing lime juice into your spicy mexican)

    What is the science behind balancing flavor?

  106. More DVDs/Hawaiian Shirts/Kitchen Gadgets by EarthPigBorn · · Score: 1

    First, let me say as a Boston area fan, please consider scheduling a book signing in the Boston area! New York is quite a hike, and there are LOTS of Good Eats/AB fans here! You are *the* UberGeek of foodies, and we love you!

    Questions:

    Do you have any plans to put more episodes on DVD? Your current two DVD offerings are already on my wish list, but I'd love to be able to pick up other eps as well!

    Have you ever worn any of the Hawaiian shirts for the show more than once? Your wife does an excellent job of finding them for you! Would you consider auctioning them off for a charity or a "Send a Poor Guy to NECI" fund?

    Have you considered selling AB aprons to go with the salt cellar and Plunger/Plunger Jr? Maybe even Hawaiian print aprons?

    Thanks!

    -EarthPigBorn

    1. Re:More DVDs/Hawaiian Shirts/Kitchen Gadgets by jamis · · Score: 1

      I gotta agree here... When are ya coming to boston? I need more autographs to go with my signed salt cellar!

  107. production of show by mikeee · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Not a food question, but I'm curious:

    Your show seems to have production values similar to other cooking shows, but I get the impression that the same, ah, practical approach you have to cooking was taken to production. ("Ok, this is just him and some camera guy in his home kitchen.")

    How many people does it actually take to produce Good Eats, how much money is that, and who exactly owns and runs which parts of that operation?

    1. Re:production of show by parp · · Score: 1

      Maybe your should look at his website: http://www.altonbrown.com/pages/behindsc.html

  108. Totally non essential gadgets by mclemenc · · Score: 1

    I am a complete self-confessed kitchen gadget freak, and from the review it seems that you are not averse to souping up (pardon the pun) some of the more mundane cooking items. So, what are your money-no-object-must-have-for-the-shear-cheek-of it-never-persuade-the-loved-one-it-is-vital kitchen gadgets ?

  109. Boiling water by LtBurrito · · Score: 5, Interesting


    I think this is the kind of question Alton loves to answer.

    Recipes always call for you to boil cold water. I'm too impatient for that. I like to start with hot water. I can imagine that an old water heater would let the water sit there for a while, and might get extra "junk" in it. I bet newer ones circulate the water better. Plus, I'm boiling the friggin water anyway. There's not going to be any live bacteria in it.

    Can I please continue to boil hot water?

    PS. I still want to see you do a standing back flip like Jamie Oliver.

    1. Re:Boiling water by cporter · · Score: 2
      Don't start with hot water from the tap. Hot water dissolves more lead, mercury, rust, and other non-bacteria nastiness from pipes.

      And starting with hot water doesn't really speed up the process much, not by more than a few seconds. Robert Wolke covers this myth in his new book What Einstein Told His Cook: Kitchen Science Explained

      Alton Brown uses an electric kettle for boiling water. Faster than a microwave or stovetop.

    2. Re:Boiling water by geekoid · · Score: 2

      Hot water can gather lead more easly. Which you can not boil out.

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    3. Re:Boiling water by Dahan · · Score: 2
      And starting with hot water doesn't really speed up the process much, not by more than a few seconds.

      My cold tap water is about 85F (hey, it's Texas and about 100F outside :). My hot tap water is 115F. I don't think you're gonna be able to raise the temperature of a gallon of water 30 degrees in a few seconds using stuff in your kitchen :)

      To do the math, lets say we want to raise the temperature of 4L of water by 17 degrees C. 4L water weighs 4kg, so it takes 4kcal to raise the temp by 1 degree C. To raise the temp by 17 degrees, that works out to be 68kcal, or about 284kilojoules of energy. To put that much energy into the water in 10 seconds requires 28.4kilowatts of power. Now say you have a 240 volt electric range... that means you'd be drawing 118 amps of current. You'd trip a circuit breaker or blow a fuse :) Most household electric ranges put out about 1500W or so per burner...

      And of course, the problem gets worse if it's winter and the tap water is 40 degrees F or so.

      Anyways, just trying it will show you that it makes more than a few seconds of difference. But personally, I always use cold water...

    4. Re:Boiling water by Buck2 · · Score: 1

      The most convincing reason that I've heard for not using hot water for consumption is that the water in the hot water plumbing is flushed less frequently. This, combined with the slightly warmer environment, allows for less sanitary conditions.

      I don't hold too much stock in the hypothetical increased absorption rates of bad chemicals or whatever, it just seems to make more sense to me to take water from the line which is "running" as opposed to "stagnant".

      I know that in my home, at least, we go through much more cold water than hot.

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      As my father lik@(munch munch)... ....
  110. how does such a cooking show work? by dummkopf · · Score: 1

    dear mr. brown, first, i would like to thank you for one of the best cooking shows i have seen in a long time. my wife and myself, both geeks (physics & astronomy) do not miss a single episode of your show. as we are moving overseas we are hoping that europe's cable listings have food-tv.

    my question is: in your show things seem to work out perfectly every time. this, of course, is a result of your scientific approach and exact work. still, i wonder how you rehearse for such a show and how many times you have to bake the souffle before it comes out puffy.

    having tought science before, i admire the simplicity with which complex processes, such as gelation are explained in your show. do you cook up these explanations yourself or do you have a team of scientists to back you up? thanks, h.

  111. 3 words by CaffeineAddict2001 · · Score: 2

    RICE KRISPY TREATS

  112. Already online! Re:10 Most Essential Cooking Tools by IvyMike · · Score: 4, Informative

    You should check out "Alton's Essential Elements" from his web page, which is his top 25 kitchen tools. It includes a lot of the ever-famous tools from the show, including the Lodge cast iron skillet and the probe thermometer.

  113. Equipment by Byteme · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I was looking at the equipment list and noticed it was extraordinary compared to Anthony Bordain's list in Kitchen Confidential (a couple knives, ring shape PVC, squeeze bottle, tooth-picks, sauté pan, stock pot, mandoline and a couple other items). Can we make do with less? I have cooked to impress in my hack kitchen using the simple tools... (granted I have Le Creuset and All Clad pans and Kitchen Aid and Cuisinart tools) I always find that it comes down to the best ingredients and one decent knife & pan. I only ask because DIY and "keep it simple" often go hand in hand in the hack mentality. Plus $5K to go out and upgrade the kitchen is a lot to ask.

    1. Re:Equipment by Buck2 · · Score: 1

      In Kitchen Confidential, Bourdain spends a significant amount of time making the point that you can still cook fabulous food without having all of the accoutrements that one expects professional chefs to have access to. He explains in detail how much value can be wrought from a squeeze bottle, for example, as well as how often over the course of a day professional chefs rely on items which are easily accessible to the home chef. He also explains that the easiest way to make your home meals be like restaurant food is to not skimp on the fat in any way, shape, or form. Fat, added to recipes by butter, creams, etc, obviously, is not a piece of equipment. :)

      Given this it would be surprising for him to then list all kinds of exotic equipment as necessary for the home kitchen.

      It should be obvious that the main points which the two men are trying to express to the audience differ in their basic assumptions. Bourdain spends a lot of time and energy discounting overfancy preparations (apparently because he has been expected to do such things many times and feels it's all flash with little substance) whereas Brown aims to express novel things that you can try out at home while also teaching a bit about what cooking does (as far as affecting the ingredients and whatnot).

      The differences in kitchen essentials is somewhat predictable from their different mottos, for Bourdain it's "All about the food." for Brown it's "All about the fun."

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      As my father lik@(munch munch)... ....
  114. Good Eats Production & the Future of Good Eats by Amoeba+Protozoa · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Dear Alton,

    I'm convinced your show, Good Eats, is one of the best things on television. I was hoping you could tell us more about how you got the idea to shoot a show in the first place, how you decided to put a scientific slant on things, and where you would like to take Good Eats in the future?

    Thank you,

    -AP

  115. Heck with ten, how about one! by cindy · · Score: 1

    Our kitchen has very little storage, and since we live in an apartment we can't do too much about that. There's no way we have room for a hand mixer AND and a KitchenAid mixer AND a food processor AND a blender AND all the other gadgets that "W" reluctantly supplies you with. So in the spirit of Ron Popiel, can you recomend one or two "essential" gadgets that slice, dice, mix, puree, and julien?

    1. Re:Heck with ten, how about one! by C0deM0nkey · · Score: 1
      How about "The Genie's Lamp" (y'know, from Disney's "Aladdin")

      "Ah, Salaam and good evening to you worthy friend. Please, please, come closer-- Too close, a little too close. There. Welcome to Agrabah. City of mystery, of enchantment, and the finest merchandise this side of the river Jordan, on sale today, come on down! Heh, heh. Look at this! Yes! Combination hookah and coffee maker--also makes Julienne fries. Will not break, will not------it broke. Ooohhh! Look at this! I have never seen one of these intact before. This is the famous Dead Sea Tupperware. Listen. Pppbp! Ah, still good....."

      Okay...so I have an 18-month old at home...sue me!

  116. Set changes, W, new house/set? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My wife and I are big fans of Good Eats and have found a number of "Ah ha! So that's why that ingredient does that!" moments while watching many episodes. As far as we're concerned, Food TV can ratchet down the Bammage quotient of the programming and ratchet up the Alton Brown quotient in their schedule. We're looking forward to a long, long run of Good Eats.

    It seems that there are two or three flavors, if you will, of the Good Eats episodes. In the early shows, there wasn't as much comedy involved, but your set (which we assume is your own house somewhere in the metro Atlanta area) has a primarily white kitchen. Then that kitchen was used for the episodes where the actors who play W, or your sister, or your other family members have lines in the episode. (Very funny stuff, by the way. I think that everybody has worked with someone like W at some point.) Most recently the episodes we've seen feature a different house/set where the kitchen cabinetry is a mahogany color and it is obviously a different house. Absent are any of the comic relief characters. The question here is: What's the chronological sequence of the given episodes?

    With or without Marsha (Marcia?) and the others, we feel that you can carry an episode with aplomb and have decided that if Food Network ever had a contest of "Have Lunch with your Favorite Food Network Chef", you'd be at the top of our list. Fascinating stuff. Your book has been great, too.

    Dan and Lori Richardson
    Renton, Washington

  117. Alton ? Heat ? Cooking ? by stud9920 · · Score: 1

    Is this a thread about AMD or what ?

  118. Typical food by Dexter77 · · Score: 1

    How do you make cold pizza and a coke taste best?

    1. Re:Typical food by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Eat and drink them, respectively, of course!

  119. OT: How did it end? by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 2

    I missed the end of that one. How did it end?

    --
    Fascism starts when the efficiency of the government becomes more important than the rights of the people.
    1. Re:OT: How did it end? by questionlp · · Score: 1

      All of the clues about the mangoes, papaya, cocoa seeds and the pineapples provided a nice clue on where he really was... at the end, he saw a surfer mulling on the beach and asked him how he got there... and was told that he was in Hawaii. Although the show made it feel like he was there for weeks, but it ended up that he was only there for a couple of days. At that point, he just went nuts :)

    2. Re:OT: How did it end? by david+duncan+scott · · Score: 2
      At that point, he just went nuts

      You are speaking of a man who had been talking to a crudely decorated coconut and an inflatable toy, you know. (And somebody needs to talk to his continuity people...that toy was there for a segment before he found it.)
      --

      This next song is very sad. Please clap along. -- Robin Zander

    3. Re:OT: How did it end? by vitroth · · Score: 1

      That wasn't a continuity error, it was just confusing story telling. All of the segments where he's writing his message (to put in the bottles) take place the night before he is rescued, but refer back to the previous days. Thus early in the episode we see the inflatable toy in the background, but later he recalls finding the toy.

      I missed part of the show the first time, and seeing it again I understood the timeline better. *any* show which time jumps around should do a better job of making the jumps clear, unless the confusion is supposed to be part of the mystery.

    4. Re:OT: How did it end? by david+duncan+scott · · Score: 2

      Huh...didn't get that. OK, I'll watch for it to be on again, and see if it makes more sense to me. Thanks.

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      This next song is very sad. Please clap along. -- Robin Zander

  120. Important new technology? by scottm · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Cooking has obviously been around in some form for ages, and the technology behind it has evolved some... What in your opionion are the most important recent (10 years? 20 years?) innovations in the art/science of cooking? What are the worst?

  121. Make the show longer! by clckwrkMalChick · · Score: 1

    A half an hour is not long enough for me to get my food science fix! Why not increase the show to an hour in length?

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  122. A nerds perspective... by Mysticalfruit · · Score: 2, Interesting

    One of the reasons why I like your show so much is that you take the time to go into the science behind the food.

    How much atonomy and decision making power do you have in deciding the topics for your shows? Has the food network ever told you that a particular show was a bad idea?

    Keep up the great work!

    --
    Yes Francis, the world has gone crazy.
  123. Why throw away our advantage? by lazn · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    http://www.qrg.ils.nwu.edu/projects/MarsSim/SimHTM L/info/whats-an-omnivore.html

    If we were ment to only eat plants we would not be omnivores, and we would be able to digest plant matter better. Wheather it be by evolution or by design, one of our advanages as humans is being omnivorious.
    "Omnivores eat plants, but not all kinds of plants. Unlike herbivores, omnivores can't digest some of the substances in grains or other plants that do not produce fruit."
    ==>Lazn

  124. Re:Already online! Re:10 Most Essential Cooking To by Bravo_Two_Zero · · Score: 2

    And displayed neatly, I might add... hey, sue me. It must be a good question if he's answered it already :)

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    Amateurs discuss tactics. Professionals discuss logistics.

  125. Blending of Science and Art by Visigothe · · Score: 1

    I've always thought that cooking, like photography is both a science and an art. The science involves understanding "why", while the art is the ability to make it your own. I've found that good cooks rarely follow a set recipe, but instead understand the relationships between savory and sweet, weight and heat.

    Rather than ask a question about "how to make xxx", my question is on your personal food philosophy. What to you makes "Good Eats"?

    And onother thing.... Alton R0x0rz my B0x0rz!

    .

  126. microwaves and organization by cornflux · · Score: 2
    Other than for defrosting and good ol' popcorn, what good are microwaves, really?

    Also, I recently received Brilliant Food Tips and Cooking Tricks: 5,000 Ingenious Kitchen Hints, Secrets, Shortcuts, and Solutions and so far it really does have some great tips. But, one thing I was hoping it would touch on is completely absent: how to organize the kitchen. I'm not talking about food prep. or cooking, but just where the "tools-of-the-trade" go. I do not have a lot of cookware or dining-ware, but what I do have is very disorganized. Any thoughts?

    1. Re:microwaves and organization by shayne321 · · Score: 2

      But, one thing I was hoping it would touch on is completely absent: how to organize the kitchen. I'm not talking about food prep. or cooking, but just where the "tools-of-the-trade" go. I do not have a lot of cookware or dining-ware, but what I do have is very disorganized. Any thoughts?

      Obviously I'm not Alton, but I just wanted to mention that Food 911 did an episode on exactly this. A woman had just moved into a new house and had boxes of kitchenware to unpack and organize, and Tyler did a good job of organizing and explaining as he went. You may want to see if you can catch a rerun or find a transcript of the episode.

      Shayne

      --
      Today I didn't even have to use my AK; I got to say it was a good day -- Icecube
    2. Re:microwaves and organization by cornflux · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the tip. I'll have to look around for a transcript, as my basic cable channel lineup does not include Food Network.

      When I had expanded-basic cable, I loved watching Alton's show. None of the others really interested me. (Call me weird, but, I don't really like the Food 911 or Naked Chef guys. They just annoy the hell out of me. And, btw, what's the deal with the tight shots on the Naked Chef show... "I'm dizzy already!")

      Uhm, yeah, sorry... anyway, thanks again for the tip.

  127. learn the essentials by wiredog · · Score: 2

    Good cookbooks. "Joy of Cooking" (I prefer 2nd ed) is very good on the essentials. Julia Child's "The Way To Cook" likewise. Her "Mastering the Art of French Cooking" is excellent.

  128. Yes, geek food recipes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ditto what the other poster said, but here are my specifics:

    - Made from canned or dry goods and spices
    - Minimal fresh ingredients
    - Uses five or less ingredients
    - Very easy to prepare - mix, cook, eat.
    - Healthy and tasty

    My personal favorite along those lines is this:

    1 can of beans, rinsed
    1 can of corn (not cream)
    1 can of diced tomatoes with juice
    1 teaspoon of chili powder
    1/2 or 1/4 teaspoon dried red pepper flakes

    Mix, cook for five minutes, eat.

  129. Recipe resources by DarklordSatin · · Score: 1

    I have always been a big fan of using recipes as guidelines for cooking and winging the rest, but I do acknowledge the need for a good recipe or other point to start from. Also, I have found that some cookbooks and recipe collections are better than others and would like to know where you like to turn for inspiration? What cookbooks or online resources do you find to be the best, in general or for specific types of recipes?

    1. Re:Recipe resources by Dr.Dubious+DDQ · · Score: 2
      I have always been a big fan of using recipes as guidelines for cooking and winging the rest[...]

      What I generally do when I'm trying to cook something unlike anything I've cooked before is, quite literally, do a google search for the name of the food and "browse" through a few recipes that happen to be online until I get a feel for proportions and technique. Then I just go for it. Noodles, for example, came down to "An egg to about a cup (or in my case, about a double-handful) of semolina flour, with optionally a little water and/or oil to get the right texture. Mix. Roll. Cut. Boil. Eat."

  130. Heat transfer... by doru · · Score: 1
    ...is what counts, not the temperature of the lava.

    I guess you could check this out yourself by directly measuring the temperature inside the hen (don't know; a thermocouple or RTD sensor, with proper protection for the leads) as a function of time. Compare with standard oven.

    If you perform the experiment, please share the results !

  131. Food Network & Better Food. by DCram · · Score: 1

    With Food Network recieving such a large viewing audience I have noticed a trend of other shows adding cooking segments. There have always been cooking shows, at least in my brief timespan. But I wonder what your thoughts are on how the Food Network has changed the attitudes and eating habits of Americans. Are we eating better? Are peoples who would normaly go to McD's now going out and spending more money on speciality dining spots?

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    If I were only smart enough to accomplish the things I dream about.. Or maybe too dumb to care.
  132. Um ... by Scotch+Game · · Score: 1

    What the hell is a kumquat?

    1. Re:Um ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it's 1337 speak for "cum in the twat"

    2. Re:Um ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A kumquat is an asian citrus-like fruit that is like an orange lemon, or a very small, bitter orange. Definitely an aquired taste.

      I'm surprised nobody else commented on this, because IIRC, O'Reilley used a Kumquat "web site" as a running example in an early book (~1995) about web design!

  133. Home food irradiation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I enjoy how you add your biophysics- and chemistry-minded views to make food delicious and beautiful. I am a science geek and I have no qualms eating commercially available irradiated food. The problem is, so many commercially available foods don't taste very good due to their preparation, regardless of how they are preserved for delivery to the consumer. If I wanted to prepare my own tasty meals, perhaps lunches to take to work or on camping trips, and wanted to extend shelf/refrigeration life with ionizing radiation, shouldn't I be able to?

    Do you think any such home food irradiation device might come to market? (I think it would take a great deal of development to make something idiot-proof enough, or perhaps coursework or licensing would be required.) Does the stigma of 'radiation' persist in the eyes of consumers? Also, I have not bought-in to the proposed link between free radicals and the aging process and I suspect this would be your biggest sticking point. Do you disagree?

    B.W.R. --Dallas, TX

  134. Whats the difference? by ScannerBoy · · Score: 1

    Alton: Thank you for the excellent book, I'm about halfway through and have three other people itching to get their hands on it.

    Question: What is the difference between shallots and a normal onion? All the cooking shows seem to prefer them, yet I've heard Emeril say at least once that you can use a normal onion in thier place. Why do we have these things? I find them rather anoying since they are so small and expensive.

    Is it ok to substitute or are there times when only a shallot will do?

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    --Should work--
  135. Veggie show? by HarvDog · · Score: 1

    Alton,

    I really enjoyed the tofu show, and now I'm wonderinf if there's any chance you'll do a vegetarian show? Of course, I'd settle for another soy show, too. :)

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    I don't care what the question is, but the answer is FileMaker. --HarvDog
  136. Gardening and Cooking?? by k-rad · · Score: 1

    Just wondering if you have ever noticed a any sort of correlation between chefs and gardening.

    By that I mean in my personal experience every amature chef I know also likes to garden.

    Apart from the obvious desire to obtain fresh ingredients, I just wonder if you have ever noticed some sort of personality trait in professional chefs that is satiated by the act of creating something (i.e planting a garden or cooking.) or perhaps in just understanding the food a little better.

    P.S....please kill Bobbie Flay for me.

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  137. Almost-Nearly-Instant Celebrity Appeal by Boliver's+Nuts · · Score: 1

    What do you think about being a celebrity sex symbol, and how does your wife feel about the serious political/moral issue of concubines in America?

  138. Whither "Beer?" by bobdehnhardt · · Score: 2

    I have been a huge AB fan since my first chance to brine a turkey, never missing an episode. Now, I could have sworn I saw mention of an episode on microbrewing on his website, but it's not there any more, and the episode never aired that I could see. Wazzup with that? Will this "lost classic" ever see air?

  139. Kitchen Storage by SwissCheese · · Score: 1

    Now that I've bought all of these kitchen essentials and added them into my existing collection of gadgets and tools, what methods can you suggest for storing or otherwise organizing all of these utinsels. Do you have several drawers that you just dump stuff in or do you have hooks and shelves everywhere?. Would I be better off buying a Craftsman stackable tool chest for my kitchen instead?

  140. Alton Brown, Grand Master of Food Tech by Rogue101 · · Score: 1

    Alton, I've greatly enjoyed your show, and catch every episode I can (I travel all over the world installing software, so it's sometimes hard finding a hotel that carries Food Network)... and I'm VERY glad that Food Network Canada carries your show! Your show has actually made me consider going back to school and take the cooking classes I always wanted to take, instead of becoming a computer engineer ( and I'm dead serious ) On to my question: If I have neutrino and... oh, sorry, that's for Mr. Hawkings... I actually have 2 questions: 1 - I live outside Edmonton, Alberta, Canada... and have a bit of difficulty find a GOOD store to find some of the cool gadgets you use on your show ( for example, the plunger style measuring cups ), and was wondering what companies you recommend for such unique tools (as I said, I travel a lot, so companies in the states are fine, or web sites I can order online from) 2 - When baking a multilayer round cake, I find that my cakes tend to be very tall in the center, shallow along the outside, making a good sized dome. I usually take a serrated knife and 'level the playing field' a bit, so they stack into a nice 3 layer cake... But I was wondering what you recommend, to ensure that I get a more uniform layer... or is this just normal? Thanks a bunch, Alton... gotta run over to Chapters and see if they carry your book now! (: -Blayne Watt

    1. Re:Alton Brown, Grand Master of Food Tech by Rogue101 · · Score: 1
      Sigh... sorry for the bad formatting... here it is again

      Alton, I've greatly enjoyed your show, and catch every episode I can (I travel all over the world installing software, so it's sometimes hard finding a hotel that carries Food Network)... and I'm VERY glad that Food Network Canada carries your show! Your show has actually made me consider going back to school and take the cooking classes I always wanted to take, instead of becoming a computer engineer ( and I'm dead serious ),

      On to my question:

      If I have neutrino and... oh, sorry, that's for Mr. Hawkings...

      I actually have 2 questions:

      I live outside Edmonton, Alberta, Canada... and have a bit of difficulty find a GOOD store to find some of the cool gadgets you use on your show ( for example, the plunger style measuring cups ), and was wondering what companies you recommend for such unique tools (as I said, I travel a lot, so companies in the states are fine, or web sites I can order online from)

      When baking a multilayer round cake, I find that my cakes tend to be very tall in the center, shallow along the outside, making a good sized dome. I usually take a serrated knife and 'level the playing field' a bit, so they stack into a nice 3 layer cake... But I was wondering what you recommend, to ensure that I get a more uniform layer... or is this just normal?

      Thanks a bunch, Alton... gotta run over to Chapters and see if they carry your book now! ( :

      -Blayne Watt

    2. Re:Alton Brown, Grand Master of Food Tech by schon · · Score: 1

      I live outside Edmonton, Alberta, Canada... and have a bit of difficulty find a GOOD store to find some of the cool gadgets you use on your show

      In Edmonton, try the Bosch Kitchen Center on 51 Ave.. they've got a good supply of quality kitchen utensils.. I don't know if they carry the measuring cups you mentioned, but they are the only place I could find that carries probe thermometers as a regular stock item!

  141. Already covered in the book by webscathe · · Score: 1

    Honestly, 40% of these questions are answered in his book, i.e. the "what are your top 10 favorite..." or "what's a good way to learn..." or even a question about salt. It's a great read and not that expensive, I suggest those of you who are interested pick it up.

  142. Best food show out there by drewcifur · · Score: 1

    I've been watching the show for a while and regularly get the recipes online. Thanks for the changes of pace and the outstanding 30 minutes a week. My question is:
    I live in the Atlanta area (which I hear you're based near) and was wondering where you go to get various kitchen utensils (pots and pans) and real spices (like the real Balsamic Vinegar from the pickle episode)?

  143. Slightly obscure but I'll try asking anyway... by Dr.Dubious+DDQ · · Score: 2

    I've recently re-discovered how much fun cooking is, along with the advantage that not only is the food generally better that way, I get the additional advantage of being able to experiment with food styles that you just can't generally get in restaurants or out of a grocery store. My current "experimental theme" is Medieval European food (which I like because of it's unique flavor set and "free-form" cooking style [at least, compared to modern "books of recipes".])

    I've noticed in a couple of your fine shows that you've repeated the silly fallacy that the style of food uses spices so often because "the meat was all rotten and they were trying to disguise the taste."

    My question, then, is in two parts:

    1. Where is a Nutritional Anthropologist to correct fallacies like this when you need one?
    2. Have you/would you consider doing a "Medieval European Food"-themed show? Your show is probably one of the only ones around adventurous enough to take on such an unusual theme...
    1. Re:Slightly obscure but I'll try asking anyway... by WzDD · · Score: 1

      I just read a book on nutritional anthropology ("Pickled, potted and canned") which repeated the above "fallacy" and backed it up with a considerable number of references, so I'm keen to learn your source.

  144. Denaturing of protein. by Leimy · · Score: 2

    Hi Alton,

    Saw your "cast away" episode. I thought the part where you described 'chemically cooking' food with acid's was particularly interesting.

    Is this generally as safe as cooking with heat? Where can I learn more?

    Dave Leimbach

    1. Re:Denaturing of protein. by gleam · · Score: 2

      the most common "chemically cooked" food is a seviche (or ceviche).. and to call something "chemically cooked" "cooked" is kind of walking on thin ice, personally..

      quoting from: http://www.ochef.com/294.htm

      Q. Many years ago I visited Mexico and had ceviche, which was fabulous. Can you tell me how to make it and what would be the best variety of fish to use. Would marinating overnight in lime make the fish the equivalent of actually being cooked?
      A. Ceviche, seviche, or cebiche -- your choice -- is almost a cuisine in its own right. Enormously popular in the western countries of South America as well as Mexico, the Caribbean, and other parts of Latin America, it has many variations, but is basically a simple blending of fish and citrus juice, with the addition of vegetables and spices.

      The chemical process that occurs when the acid of the citrus comes in contact with the fish is similar what happens when the fish is cooked, and the flesh becomes opaque and firm. Indeed, many people refer to the juice as "cooking" the fish, although that is just plain wrong!

      South American lemons are not as sweet as those in this country, and are often used for the ceviche. Further north, limes are the fruit of choice, although many people use a mix of lemon and lime.

      Ceviche can include a mixture of saltwater fish, scallops or other shellfish, squid or octopus and onion, chili, tomato, pepper and/or cilantro, and is often served as an appetizer or light meal. In this country, red snapper, sole and pompano are the most popular choices. We have some fans of scallop ceviche in the office here, although shellfish is usually cooked briefly first (blanched) and oiled before going into the lime juice, as the acid tends to break down its texture if it is raw.

      Many ceviche recipes ask you to marinate the fish for a good four hours to set the fish all the way through, although some call for much shorter marinating times. Keeping the fish in the juice longer (say, overnight) results in a lime taste that many people think overpowers the fish.

      The one cardinal rule of preparing ceviche is that the fish must be absolutely fresh. There are quite a few ceviche recipes available online.

      -gleam

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  145. Re-Heat Safe Cooking by kenp2002 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I, as many Slashdot readers am a corporate employee (I specifically am a contractor) and many times we end up eating fast food or resturant food frequently. With the exception of cold server foods that we can bag and take to work with us I have found that many foods that we "Re-Heat" tend to greatly disappoint when they are re-heated. Do you have any suggestions on foods that re-heat well and retain a fair amount of taste and texture (excluding soups) or do you have advice on better ways to re-heat food in a microwave?

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  146. The Good Eats DVDs by Maxwax · · Score: 1

    Why are there only 3 episodes of Good Eats on the DVDs? I was hoping for 6-9 considering they're only 30 minute shows.

    Good Eats is one of the rare shows that is 1) instructional 2) entertaining and 3) re-watchable again and again.

    Do you folks at good eats realize how much hard drive space Good Eats uses on my Tivo?

    I want to buy the DVDs for permanent high-quality archives (as opposed to cheap VCR tapings), but it's more cost effective for me to buy more Tivo space than 3 episodes/$49 each :(

    Looking forward to one of those PBS-style 14-DVD "Collector's Pack" sets with years of Good Eats :-)

    1. Re:The Good Eats DVDs by RobertNotBob · · Score: 1

      LOL. I DID buy more tivo space just for Good Eats. And right before the DVD came out .... DOH! And on a related note: There are time slots on FoodTV that have fewer commercials (midnight - 6:00am). Anybody with a VCR, or other device, might want to look for those.

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  147. Why Not Eat Dirt by Fascist+Christ · · Score: 1

    It is quite obvious that eating plants is essentially healthier. See, animals can be nutritious, but only because they get their nutrients from the plants (or carnivores get their nutrients from other animals who get it from plants). This just means we aren't getting it from the source.

    Ok, so eat plants, but you are missing out. Where do you think plants get their nutrients from? The soil. So, if you want the real thing, the most nutritious substance in the world, without any loss by transfer - then eat dirt.

    What? You don't like the taste? Not much we can do about that. I don't like the taste of veggies, so I guess we're even there.

    Too much potential for bacteria or viral infection? Start a program to sterilize and prepackage the dirt.

    In my opinion, vegitarians are just another extremist group who think that just because a living thing isn't conscious or has a brain then it is right to slaughter them. A farm is a death camp for vegitables, it's that simple.

    And with carnivores killing other animals every day as their sole source of food, it's hard for me to find any moral issues with being an omnivore.

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    1. Re:Why Not Eat Dirt by bill_guts · · Score: 1

      i'm vegetarian because i hate vegetables. i want to kill them all. fuckin' carrots must die.

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    2. Re:Why Not Eat Dirt by ital · · Score: 1

      Eating dirt is not actually a bad idea. One of the nutrients that vegetarians lack a natural source for is B12. B12 is made by micro-organisms that live in...DIRT! Meat eaters get B12 because the animals that they consume eat enough dirt for excess B12 to get absorbed in their intestinal tract. The lack of B12 in a modern vegetarian diet is due to the hygenie of modern food cultivation. Since other things live in soil, like anthrax, leprosy and other nasty viruses it is probably a safer trade off to just take supplements.

    3. Re:Why Not Eat Dirt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And cheaper too if you amortize out the amount you'll pay in doctor and hospital bills from contracting those lovely viruses and bacteria versus spending $15 on a bottle of multi-vitamins every few months. (You really don't need to take a vitamin every day. Most come with multiple hundreds of a percent of the amount you need of each vitamin/mineral they contain. You can just take one every couple of days or, just switch off months.)

      However, a modern human can't subsist upon dirt alone. Our bodies lack the ability to turn minerals and nitrates into sugars, proteins, and other helpful things. Plants have to do that for us first, then we can eat the plants and derive benefit from the nutrients in the soil that way. If you think about it, in certain ways, this planet is basically just one big digestion mechanism.

      There's nothing wrong (and a good many reasons it's right) with cutting meat out of your diet but, depending on your health goals, it may still be wise to consume certain other animal products like eggs, milk, and cheese. Eggs are almost 100% protein which is very good for building muscles and keeping them strong, and milk and cheese (assuming you're not lactose intolerant like two-thirds of the world) are generally a good source of some of the fats you need in your diet as well as calcium. Lacto-ovo-vegetarianism is one of the wisest diets a human can have.

    4. Re:Why Not Eat Dirt by ital · · Score: 1

      I didn't mean to imply that we should only eat dirt. Just that dirt is not ALL bad. In fact our modern production techniques have replaced many of the beneficial bacteria we would get from dirt with disinfectants/antibiotics/pesticides, some of them carcinogens. Doesn't seem like wise tradeoff to me.

      >milk and cheese are generally a good source of some of the fats you need in your diet as well as calcium.

      Animal proteins slightly inhibit the bodies absorption of calcium which makes cheese/milk less than ideal source of calcium. It also comes loaded with saturated fats and cholestoral.

  148. Cooking with Smoke by texag1992 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I love the book, but was a little disappointed in your brief description of why cooking with smoke makes food taste so good. Here in Texas, smoking meats is very popular, but little is understood regarding the science involved in cooking this way.

    For instance, why do smoked meats stay moist and tender instead of drying out? Why do smoked meats have a pink color near the surface - almost appearing uncooked? Is cooking with smoke really carcinogenous?

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    1. Re:Cooking with Smoke by LetterJ · · Score: 1

      I can't really detail the exact why on the smokering, but it stays moist mostly because traditional barbecue is done with really fatty cuts of meat that constantly moisten the meat as they cook. The whole process is to slowly break down the collagen in those cuts like brisket. Lean cuts of meat, if left on the smoker for 6-8 hours will dry out.

    2. Re:Cooking with Smoke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i read (in that Genome book by Ridley as a matter of fact) that smoke and charred stuff contains free radical oxygen which can, in theory, shorten the 'telomeres' and age cells more quickly. supposedly antioxidants can counter this effect, so smoke some broccoli (in the smoker, not the bong) along with your carne de porco.

    3. Re:Cooking with Smoke by DJerman · · Score: 2
      The smoke ring (that pink color) ... ok, I can't answer that one -- probably to do with fluid pressure near the surface but I don't know.

      But I know why it's moist -- smoking is low-temperature cooking. High temps tend to boil water out of the food, but cooking near or below 200 deg. F. will keep the water in. You just have to keep at it until the whole thing gets to a safe temperature.

      My sister's husband's half-brother (you genealogists can tell me what relation that is) made the best, butteriest, most happy-making smoked turkey I ever had... the juices didn't run but the thing was practically spreadable, it was so tender and moist. I got a similar result with a turducken (not smoked, but cooked at 200 deg. for 12 hours) the christmas before last.

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  149. And.. by xant · · Score: 2, Funny

    You still didn't spell "cognitive" right. Dummy.

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  150. Link to a more science based cooking show by uberstool · · Score: 1

    http://www.americastestkitchen.com/

  151. And a second question: by Dr.Dubious+DDQ · · Score: 2

    You've written a book (which I now own a copy of, naturally). Shirley Corriher's written a book (which I also own a copy of).

    Will Deb Duchon, Nutritional Anthropologist, also be writing a book, and if so, when will it come out (and if not, who do we mope at to encourage her?)

  152. Rotisserie cooking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Hi Alton,
    My wife and I got a rotisseried chicken yesterday and it was fantastic. There are lot's of ways to cook a chicken and a lot of ways to ruin a chicken but cooking chicken in a rotisserie really seems to be a great way to achieve excellent flavor, texture, and juicy-ness.

    What's your take on rotisserie cooking for poultry, lamb, beef?
    Thanks,
    Chip and Debby

  153. stove purchase by paingod · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Hi Alton... Love your show. Bought your book. Please write more of them.

    Now the question:

    I just remodeled my kitchen. It's not all that big, but the one thing I really want in it is one of those huge 8 burner gas stoves - DCS, Dacor, Viking, something like that. My question is what benefits or drawbacks are there from using a 'commercial residential' model as opposed to something more conventionally residential, like a GE Spectra? Venting and space are not problems. (Natural Gas all the way - no electrics - I have an electric now and just like the way gas cooks better - and I think a gas oven produces better bread). Oh, and love your show. :)

  154. History or not? by longduckdong · · Score: 1

    On your show you present many interesting facts about cooking and get into the nitty gritty details on how food, and the chemicals that make up food, interact with each other, the mixing surfaces, and the cooking environment. How much of this information was actually figured out ages ago and then basically forgotten by modern cooks and re-learned by you or is all this great information recently gathered by chemcial analysis and observation or some other methods?

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  155. The State of Food by skyhook · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I watch exactly two television programs. NFL Football and Good Eats.

    I have three questions.

    I learned a long time ago that I enjoyed cooking more than anything else. Part of that is that, being a geek, I live in a digital world, and the analog act of cooking is very soothing. While I will complain loudly at standing in a line longer than ten minutes, I've often spent HOURS on my feet in the kitchen cooking for holidays, and went to bed that night blissfully calm.

    In the US today, with rampant McCuisine and dual income families, the concept of cooking has been shoved to the back burner, so to speak. Eating is something you do, not something you enjoy. Even worse, good food is, for many, something you go get, not something you do in your own kitchen.

    So, riddle me these questions three...

    1) What can be done about the dumbing down of american cuisine? Your show is a spectacular start, but there simply arent enough of them. You actually make other shows irrelevant. I'm no longer content to see the "How" without also getting the "why?" Short of "Good Eats 2", what can be done to teach americans what good food is?

    2) You're living the life I'd kill for. You were a Video guy who left to go to culinary school. I'm a web guy who would give anything to do the same, if I could figure out how to pay the mortgage and feed the three kids in the interim. I have taken the path of self education. Your book is, quite honestly, a textbook that should be required reading for anyone who wants to cook. I'm waiting for my copy of McGee's On Food And Cooking, what other resources do you recommend for someone who is very serious about culinary education, but doesn't have the resources for an immersive culinary school?

    3) Your equipment recommendations, so far, have been dead on. My Magnum pepper mill is a dream, My lodge cast iron has a seasoning my grandmother would have been jealous of, and Spring loaded tongs have been a fixture in my kitchen since before you did your PBS shows. But I have yet to find a source for your Jomac gloves, and I am still patiently waiting for the Plunger and Plunger Junior to go on sale at Your Site. Hook a brother up, to steal a Nicholson line, "Where does he get these wonderful toys."?

    Oh, and I'll slide in one more question. What subjects are on tap for next season?

    1. Re:The State of Food by Dr.Dubious+DDQ · · Score: 2

      Okay, I'm obviously NOT Alton Brown, but I am an opinionated person who cooks for fun (and am told I'm quite good at it...)

      What can be done about the dumbing down of american cuisine?

      Cook GOOD food and share it. Experiment and share the results. Invite people over and show them how much fun (and how easy) cooking is. If you don't want them standing around the kitchen watching, they can sit in the Living Room watching episodes of "Good Eats" (the only drawback to this is the danger of having people watching say "Wow that sounds GOOD! When will you make some of THAT?" and making more 'work' for you. I was "forced" to make French Onion Soup this weekend after someone saw the "Onion" episode....not that I'm complaining. P.S. Verjuice instead of Cognac. Yum. On the other hand, they may get impatient and decide to make whatever it is themselves, which, of course, is the ultimate goal anyway. Showing the two Chocolate-related episodes usually sparks some interest...)

      The contrast between Real Food (both well-made "ordinary" food and the varieties of "exotic" food) and "McGrub(tm)" will sink in eventually, and as people start rediscovering that cooking is fun and a lot easier than they think, we'll start seeing higher expectation and better food everywhere...

    2. Re:The State of Food by skyhook · · Score: 1

      I try to do that, but can't as often as I'd like. When asked what I wanted for father's day, I wanted to cook a meal for everyone.

      Cajun BBQ shrimp, my world famous Buffalo Chicken Eggrolls, grilled pork tenderloin brined in a variant of Alton's turkey brine and grilled over hickory chips, and a Potato and smoked Gouda Gratin. The Chocolate Fudge volcano cakes and homemade vanilla bean ice cream were canceled due to lack of time. Rave reviews all around (even with store bought ice cream and brownies from a local bakery).

  156. Surprising? by photon317 · · Score: 2

    Why is it surprising that a book about food would be popular on Slashdot? Think about it...

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  157. Herbs & Spices by Strange+Ranger · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Alton, about a year and a half ago at the suggestion of a friend's gourmet cook mother, I bit the bullet and made the upgrade from grocery store McCormick type spices and dried herbs to those carried by Penzeys Spices.

    There has been an amazing improvement in everything I cook. Everything from McCormick really is bland dust next to its Penzeys equivalent. (No, I have no affiliation of any sort with Penzeys, just a recent convert).

    So where do you go for your dried herbs and spices? Better yet, where do you recommend your viewers & readers buy reasonably priced quality herbs and spices?

    Thanks!

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    1. Re:Herbs & Spices by BenSnyder · · Score: 2, Informative

      From his site, he recommends the Spice House

    2. Re:Herbs & Spices by Cliffenz · · Score: 1

      Go to any Indian or Chinese grocery

    3. Re:Herbs & Spices by Strange+Ranger · · Score: 2

      figures.. I searched his site for the info, and when I saw the first half of that page I skipped the rest... Typhoid Mary, FoodSafety.gov...really. Live and learn I guess.

      He should move that link and talk about it. The easy immediate difference good seasonings make (over McCormick) is much more important to good cooking than Word-of-the-Day.com

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    4. Re:Herbs & Spices by gleam · · Score: 2

      another thing to note is that you really should always go for fresh herbs whenever possible :) even if you just have a spare window ledge in your apartment, go to a nursery and buy some basil, rosemary, thyme, and whatever else you use fairly regularly.. the difference will be astounding, and the herbs are really easy to take care of.

      I'm blessed by living near Chicago. I have a Penzey's about a mile away, and the Spice House is about a half hour away--Good deal.

      -gleam

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    5. Re:Herbs & Spices by Strange+Ranger · · Score: 1

      Agreed! Another handy thing is to take excess fresh herbs (already picked or getting old on the vine/stem) and mince them up in some good olive oil - to a paste consistency. Then freeze in ice cube trays. Then take the herb cubes out and put in a ziplock freezer bag and store frozen. Whoala - ice cube size servings of herbs that are 95% as good as fresh picked. Use frozen - as the oil base thaws into slush fast.

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  158. Next Book? by alacqua · · Score: 4, Interesting
    In the introduction to your book, you dangled something about batters and baking being fodder for another book. I really enjoy your "Mr. Wizard Meets Cooking" style of teaching the "why's" and, dare I say it, theory behind techniques without being boring. Are you seriously considering a baking book and, in the meantime, can you recommend a baking book that explores the "why's" and the techniques and frees me from what James Peterson called the "tyranny of recipes"? Umm... I think it was him.

    Maybe after reading a book like that, and I'm Just Here for the Food, I'll have learned enough to know that I know nothing. Only then will I be able to snatch a pebble from Julia Child's hand.

    BTW, great TV show, great book!

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  159. shouldent it be... by king_ · · Score: 1

    cooking = food + heat; /* This is logically correct */

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  160. Emeril by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who can we geeks bribe to get "Good Eats" on the air at least as much as Emeril? Every time I flip to the food network I hear "BAM!!!"

  161. I'm not Alton, but... by BlackGriffen · · Score: 3, Informative

    I took a neuroscience class last fall and I can answer your question. There are definitely G-protein coupled receptors in the mouth for detecting more than just "salt, sweet, sour, and bitter." In fact, IIRC, sweet and bitter both rely on similar (GPC) receptors, whilst sour and salt rely on ion channels. The name of this taste is called "umami." What you're tasting is the neurotrasmitter glutamate. The dangerous part of MSG is the sodium ion, because sodium is necessary (neurons cannot fire without it) but people generally get too much of it anyway.

    IIRC, neuroscientists haven't yet figured out all of the different receptors in our mouths. The basic idea is that each one provides a benefit to survival: sweet = high carb, sour = citrus (?), bitter = poisonous, salt = need salt, umami = good protein source (?), etc.

    BlackGriffen

  162. The Bastardization of Cooking by pauly_thumbs · · Score: 1

    Italian Cooking skills have been passed on to me from my Grandparents and Mom. If i do say so myself I am a pretty good cook. Also as a restaurant entusiast I do enjoy being a bit of an critic. However I have found that NO 'italian' restaurant has ever come close to my grandfathers cooking and rarely is equal to my cooking. I'm sure that there are Chinese, French and Spanish cooks that feel the same way. The Food at a restaurant never compares to the food from home. And sometimes it's all Wrong! As one of 3 italian residents in Seattle (we each do 8 hour shifts) I am amazed as what passes for Pizza around here! How do these places stay in business? Pizza and Pasta (mushy pasta, bitter sauce, canned meatballs and lumpy gooey crust) in seattle are my pet peeves... what are some of yours?

    1. Re:The Bastardization of Cooking by Nutello · · Score: 1

      To be fair, I am amazed as what passes for pizza in most places in Italy as well. There's been quite some activity in recent times to preserve the "true" pizza against bastardisation. For example, there's a standard and its certification mark. Efforts are going on to make it a national and European standard (if that hasn't happened yet). This way, a consumer knows what to expect when seeing a protected name. Same is happening with a lot of traditional food in Europe - at least the Union is giving some tangible benefits in return.

      I don't know about the rest of the US, but if you ever end up in the Twin Cities, I have found a place in St. Paul that is certified (there are just two or three hundred in the world and most of them are of course in Naples, Italy). There is more background available online about pizza.

      The other big offender is mozzarella. True mozzarella is made from water buffalo milk, has a porcelaine white colour and tastes nothing like the tennis shoe gum with the same name found in the US or the cheap imitation from cow milk sold even in most of Italy.

      And don't get me started with so-called parmesan, which has little do with the real parmigiano reggiano...

  163. Appropriate use of computers in the kitchen by c.jaeger · · Score: 1

    First off, kudos to you and your team of developers on kicking out entertaining and enlightening shows.

    Here's a quandary I'm in. As a nerd, I tend to watch how TV shows and other information sources depict technology. I have yet to see any TV show realistically depict the use of computer technology as a worthwhile helper in the kitchen.

    How do you see computers, small PDAs or similar technology as being useful for the domestic chef within the kitchen or in meal preparation either now or in the next few years? Is their a food related problem that nerd chefs with computers are better suited to solve than non-nerd chefs with pen and paper?

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  164. hammers vs. screwdrivers by joejor · · Score: 1
    I really appreciate your advice and insight on multitasking, turning non-kitchen items into cookware. It helps tremendously to know I can improvise yogurt makers and double boilers from appliances I already have on hand.

    However, I do wonder if the devotion to multitasking can be taken too far. The problem I found with a multitasker tool is that you can still only make it do one thing at a time. And while it's doing that thing, other processes (not necessarily cooking related) that require that tool lose its utility.

    My question: how far do you take it? Can you give us an example of something you do so often that you finally just broke down and got a specialty tool?

    By the way, I use a temperature probe on my multimeter to see when my roast is done. ;)

  165. pasta, spring rolls, wontons, & pastry by ajrs · · Score: 1

    how does doe work? When can it be boiled, steamed, fried, or baked?

  166. How dare you!!! by hitzroth · · Score: 1

    Do you have any idea how long it takes me to get that song out of my head?!? Do you!?!

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  167. College. by NeoSkandranon · · Score: 2

    I'm going to college soon. If by some miracle i get an apartment, what are some things you recommend that are simple, filling and nutritious to make with the most basic of gear?

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  168. A how to for married men... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I actually asked this at one of your signings in the Wash DC area... But I had to leave before pressing you on the issue.

    My original question was "How do you tell someone to STOP cooking?" Your response was an angry "cooking is love" item. But I wanted to clarify. This person cooks, but will not take *any* criticism. If I don't say "I LOVE it! Don't change anything!" that dish will *never* be produced again. I would rather they stop trying than be teased with good recipes that just need tweaked a bit. So, how do you do it? How do you either get them to not cook anymore, or listen to reason?

  169. Non-food Question by AnonymousCowhand · · Score: 1

    Alton,

    Mac or PC?

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    1. Re:Non-food Question by tb3 · · Score: 1

      It's in "I'm Only Here for the Food". G4 TiBook. Of course.

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  170. Tension with sponsors/advertisers? by nufsaid · · Score: 2, Interesting
    It seems in every Good Eats show you make a point of discouraging people from buying specialized gadgets which have only one application. My favorite cheap suggestions of yours being a butter knife for opening oysters or using a carboard box and electic coil for smoking fish - all using items that have multiple applications.

    Most kitchen shows these days are obviously supported by corporate sponsors - whose business apparently depends on pressuring people into buying needlessly specialized gadgets for the kitchen. I'd like you to comment on the possible tension between presenting reliable, affordable advice to people and getting enough advertising dollars to keep afloat.

    Ideally there would be no tension: You promote "Good Eats" and that will surely increase the number of home cooks out there and keep the wheels of the industry turning!

    Thanks for giving us such a great show,

    Joe and Allison.

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    1. Re:Tension with sponsors/advertisers? by King+Babar · · Score: 2
      Most kitchen shows these days are obviously supported by corporate sponsors - whose business apparently depends on pressuring people into buying needlessly specialized gadgets for the kitchen.

      Actually, my take on the Food Network's commercials and sponsors is that they *aren't* makers of very specialized gadgets (okay, mixers and blenders) but rather of 3 other categories:

      1. Big-ticket items like stoves
      2. Wine, designer ice cream, and the like.
      3. Stuff I have no idea why it's there, like Lean Cuisine frozen dinners...stuff that is basically the *opposite* of cooking your own food well.

      For that matter, we know that most people who buy Viking stoves do not actually cook very much, and my disturbing suspicion is that 90% of the people who watch shows on the Food Network really aren't as into cooking as you might assume. I guess the bright side of this is that 10% are really, truly into it, and people like AB really matter to this bunch, but I have always wondered whether the profile of the average Food Network watcher bothers the on-screen talent that does work so hard to create great food.

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  171. Evil Brother... by geistbear · · Score: 1

    In the recent Pickling episode your Evil Brother demostrated his culinary talents, will we be seeing more of him in the future? Potentially an enitre Good Eats perhaps?

    1. Re:Evil Brother... by RobertNotBob · · Score: 1
      And oh, by the way, AB, when you were not looking he stole a blender from your pantry!

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  172. sauce thickening by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I've always wondered why roux-based sauces act the way they do: cook some starch in oil, then add liquid. The roux instantly congeals, which makes sense, intuitively, but I'm wondering if it's the fats wrapping around saturated starches, or what. Then you thin it out with more liquid, bring just to the boiling point, and it thickens again! What's going on that time? Thanks, Steve

  173. Questions on sauces... by dghcasp · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I've recently begun really playing with sauces, coincidently after finishing reading your book and Shirley Corriher's "Cookwise," and have some questions that were left unaddressed... Yes, it's more than one, but pick your favourite.

    1. When trying to pan-fry things, the books recommend leaving the food in place without moving for a few minutes to develop the fond. Unfortunatly for me, I always end up with burnt bits and an hour of scrubbing my All-Clad pots. For poaching, it's recommended to cook in liquid at the target temperature, because then the food will never overcook. Can you do the same thing for pan frying, or will you never develop a fond? Or to put it another way (aka the geeky slashdot way,) what's the magic temperature for the Maillard reaction?

    2. Because I'm a typical indentured serf with long work hours, I cook enough food on the weekends that I can bring my dinners to work and microwave them. But I'm having problems with Roux-based sauces, as after a night in the refrigerator, they turn to gelatenous blobs instead of creamy sauces (This may be a result of using home-made chicken stock.) What's the best way to reconstitute a sauce?

  174. College Cooking by global_diffusion · · Score: 2

    Do you have any recommendations for foods or meals for college students? We have lots of eating to do, but little time to cook with, so our recipes must be quick and easy and often aren't that good. Are there any recipes that come to mind that would be good for this? I do a lot of rice/beans, but those grow weary over the months...

  175. Thing auditions by RobertNotBob · · Score: 1
    Hi.

    First off, I love your show.

    I was wondering if I (or any other of my fellow /.'ers) could get a 'guest' appearance as THING. I could pour a table spoon of sage into a pot like a pro. I could even hold the kosher salt while you took a pinch.

    How 'bout it? What does a geek have to do to get a spot on Good Eats?

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  176. Insane Tea Kettle by THX113895 · · Score: 0

    What i am looking for is the Tea Kettle he used in the special about Tea. I know its made by M. Kamenstien, but i can't find the thing anywhere.

    1. Re:Insane Tea Kettle by HarvDog · · Score: 1

      Gevalia used to have it in their catalog, but I haven't seen one in at least a year.

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    2. Re:Insane Tea Kettle by absquatulate · · Score: 1
      I am assuming you mean the "rocket" teakettle?

      A friend of mine actually found one. In Prague. His sister was there and searched high and low for it, and the locals laughed when she asked for it.

      Like the previous poster mentioned, it used to be in the Gevalia Catalog, but hasn't been in a while. I think if you really want it, you'll have to do alot of searching online to find it.

    3. Re:Insane Tea Kettle by laurakonrad · · Score: 1

      Actually, I found it in a shop in New Hope, PA, called hot Plates. I saw it before the show, liked it but didn't buy it, then the next time I returned, asked about it.

      they stopped carrying it because they said it kept getting returned! turns out the little rockets don't quite work right (the steam release system is kinda goofy) so they gave up on selling it.

      Personally though, I'd like to take my chances with it anyhow... anyone know where I can find it?

      - Laura

  177. Cooking shows for the lonely by Vinson+Massif · · Score: 2, Interesting

    My greatest recipie irritant is I am _not_ cooking for a small army. Generally how does one scale down a recipie without losing it's fundamentals.

    Or, how does one cook for one?

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    1. Re:Cooking shows for the lonely by Dr.Dubious+DDQ · · Score: 2
      My greatest recipie irritant is I am _not_ cooking for a small army. Generally how does one scale down a recipie[...]

      Simple, don't use recipes :-). Most of the time, I just think in terms of proportion and flavor, and work it from there. It takes just a little practice, but you soon get a "feel" for how much food will result from THIS much raw material, and what it will taste like (and, by extension, what to do to it if you want it to taste differently in the end).

      Either that, or get a bunch of Tupperware(tm) or whatever and resign yourself to eating the leftovers for lunch the next day...

    2. Re:Cooking shows for the lonely by RobertNotBob · · Score: 1
      Personally I consider using a recipe as cooking somebody else's food.

      If I am cooking a meal, then I will add the ingredients that will taste good today. If I follow directions (written at a second grade reading level) then _I_ am not cooking, I am simply prepairing somebody else's food.

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  178. Tell us about your Macintoshes! by Corvus · · Score: 1

    A few years ago, Macworld magazine featured you as a celebrity Mac user. What machines are you using now, and have you switched to MacOS X yet?

  179. Book recommendations by hanwen · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've noticed that many good cooks also know which cooking books to buy, so here goes:

    Other than your own books (of course), which
    books/writers do you recommend to learn new cuisines from?

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  180. I think you left something important out... by Goon+Number+1 · · Score: 1

    I think you left something important out of your equation. Time. As I once discovered after leaving a pot of tomato sauce on without stirring for a while, time is a vital part of cooking. Why was it left out of the equation, Is it planned for inclusion in a follow up? Not pithy enough? Just curious.

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  181. Anthony Bourdain by rnb · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Once upon a time on your website, you did a very small review of Tony Bourdain's book on Typhoid Mary and mentioned that Tony "writes better than he cooks." What was that? Is there some sort of rivalry brewing? A bad dinner at Les Halles? I'd love to hear the background story.

  182. Calamari!!! by k-rad · · Score: 1

    When are you going to do an episode on squid... I'll settle for other seafood too..but I want all your knowledge on Calamari.

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    1. Re:Calamari!!! by gerardrj · · Score: 2

      Perhaps you should search the re-runs pages at Food-TV. He did an episode for squid entirly "on location" at a beach tailgate party.

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  183. Screw the stadium by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I want to see who could whip up the tastier meal, given identical typical household kitchens, without a staff.

    Who is the better all around chef.

    Sort of like Alton and Emeril meet Doorknocker Dinners (or whatever that show was).

    Who saw the episode with the two Iron Chef Japan's. The one guy used a potato, shaved out into one large flat piece of potato with a clever, rolled it up, and cut it into noodles. It was a site to see.

  184. Salsa Chicken by The+Bod · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Here's one my wife and I came up with. We buy a bunch of frozen boneless skinless chicken breasts, throw some in a crock pot, cover with Pace Picante sauce and turn the crock pot on low. I think we let it cook for 6-8 hours. We get the medium Pace Picante sauce. Do not get hot unless you are a glutton for punishment. We used to serve the chicken over noodles until we started the Atkin's Diet"

    1. Re:Salsa Chicken by nexthec · · Score: 1

      Man....My wife has taken several health classes, and the Atkins diet has come up in several of them. Its a Diet that has been around since the 70's. And most doctors/researchs/nutritionists agree that it is a bad thing. Check out What some people say. Basically it comes down to a starvation diet...you eat food, but not proper food. Just go to Rawanda for a couple of months.

    2. Re:Salsa Chicken by JMan1 · · Score: 1

      It is sort of a starvation diet. It's basically a way to make your body starve its fat while keeping its muscle. Besides the induction diet (first 2 weeks) it's not far off from what our ancestors could have eaten before farming. Lots of non-starchy veggies and animal flesh.

    3. Re:Salsa Chicken by The+Bod · · Score: 1
      And most doctors/researchs/nutritionists agree that it is a bad thing.

      That doesn't mean they are right. Saying the Atkin's diet is a starvation diet is a little extreme. If you are hungry it is because you aren't eating enough. In a nutshell, all the diet does is force your body to tap its fat reserves for energy. There was an article posted on slashdot that explains the process quite well. The /. story linked to the New York times, but you can find the store here as well.

      Since starting the diet I'm rarely ever hungry. Before the diet I used to eat a bowl of cereal or toast for breakfast and be starving just an hour or so after I got to work. To satisfy my hunger I would end up getting some "food" (such as Hostess cherry pies) form the vending machine and wash it down with a Mt. Dew. Now I'm eating my eggs and sausage or bacon for breakfast and I'm not hungry until lunch time. Before the diet I was taking 4-6 Tums a day and a Zantac before bed. I was constantly bloated, and often times waking up in the middle of the night from heart burn. Since I started the diet I sleep the whole night through and I never feel bloated. I don't need to take my Tums any more except if I decide to cheat and go out for some pizza or a Saucy Southerner. I feel that I am much more alert/energetic in the mornings than I used to be, even without my Mt. Dew which I miss dearly.

      I never ate many fruits before the diet, but I am eating many more vegetables than I used to. Basically I'm eating healthier, losing weight, and feeling better. I don't see how that's a bad thing. If you listened to what the food nazis and other "health experts" tell you, there isn't anything that is safe to eat.

  185. Your expanding middle... by Corvus · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's said that one should never trust a thin chef, but with all the recent attention on the failure of low-fat diets to prevent obesity and its complications, where do you weigh in on the whole low-carb way of eating?

  186. Safe Cooking Temps by dmaxwell · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The wife and I are huge fans of your show but there is one thing we notice from time to time that we've always wondered about. For instance, your country ham recipe specifies that the ham is done when the interior temp hits 140 degrees. However,

    http://www.fsis.usda.gov/OA/pubs/ham.htm

    states that "cook-before-eating hams must reach 160 F to be safely cooked before serving." I know those bad boys have been salt cured but I would still be worried about trichinosis. Your "done" temperatures for meat are often lower than what the food safety people would have them be. This is a long winded way of asking "What is your approach to food safety?" You look pretty healthy to me so I'll assume you know something those government fussbudgets don't but I'd feel better about trying out some of your recipes if I knew what that was.

    1. Re:Safe Cooking Temps by Salden · · Score: 1

      Sometimes his "done" temperatures seem really low but that ham will contuinue to cook while it's "resting" on the counter. If you watch the show often enough, this "carry over" concept gets drilled into your head.

    2. Re:Safe Cooking Temps by nexthec · · Score: 1

      This is somthing that is kind of a misnomer, from what I have been told (by my wife, who learned this in her toxicology/health classes) that to fully cook pork products so that your chance of getting trichinosis, would make the food inedible(like eating bark it would be so dry). cooking to 160 F decreases your chances of getting infected by like 5%. Basicaly it comes down to the controll methods used by farms these days a quite stringent.

    3. Re:Safe Cooking Temps by DJerman · · Score: 2
      I remember eating pork with trichonosis cysts. It was leathery and nasty, because it had to be cooked so long.

      Fortunately we don't really need to worry about it in the US any more, as less than 0.01% of pork is infected, it's killed in less than a minute at 140F, and if you're still worried, you can get irradiated pork -- it's dead, Jim.

      The FDA guidelines are meant to keep the users of cheap thermometers absolutely safe, and to ensure we eat plenty of beef and chicken :)

      Facts here

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  187. link is a 404 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that link is a 404..

  188. Re:Cancerous Carbs? - mod parent up! by Coolfish · · Score: 1

    This is a great question, is topical and applies quite well to the typical /. geek who lives on french fries, chips, and breads...

  189. best mothod? by jglow · · Score: 1

    I've found that picking up new skills in electronics (more specifically computers) has been very easy for me. Having several good cooks in my family has inspired me to want to be as robust in cooking as I am with computers, but unfortunetly I just can't seem to pick cooking methods up as easy as say, a new programming language. Do you see any relation to picking up new computer skills with picking up even basic cooking skills? Where should someone with quick learning skills but no cooking background start? Thanks!

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    1. Re:best mothod? by Dr.Dubious+DDQ · · Score: 2
      Where should someone with quick learning skills but no cooking background start?

      I'd say pick a type of food you really like and learn to make it. Heck, the whole reason I know how to cook now is that many, many years ago, I had a conversation with my mother that went something like "Mom, will you make some cookies?" "No, I'm busy." "Well....can I?"....

  190. being an Icon by the_Bionic_lemming · · Score: 1

    I have to join the others here in thanking you for your show and your refreshing take on food. I've eaten so much more mangos since seeing the easy way to peeling them, and I bought a chimney starter for my coals for grilling.
    How do you feel now that you've pretty Much established yourself as a the Icon of cooking for nerds and geeks all over the world? Will you change your show at all? And what are your plans for the future?
    Oh, and even though folks were joking here- I think FoodTV could make a mint from getting you on Iron Chef. Think of the free publicity Slashdot would give for the event.

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  191. Which could you live without? by tb3 · · Score: 2

    This is actually my father's favorite food question:
    If you had to give up one of the two foods which would it be: onions or tomatoes?

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  192. Why Food Network? by slank · · Score: 1

    First, I have to express my sincerest thanks for such a great show. You've been more help to my cooking than any other person.

    What I want to know is if you've ever been approached by another network/company like PBS? The reason I ask is that of all the shows on Food TV, you're one of the only ones who really TEACHES cooking. Emeril's on every 3rd or 4th timeslot, and he cooks things that most people won't ever make and learn very little from. The closest thing I've seen recently to your caliber of program is Rick Bayless' "Mexico, one plate at a time" (on PBS) - one with some background on the process and history of the food we eat, and why it's prepared the way it is.

    I like your show and I'd love to see you get more exposure.

    1. Re:Why Food Network? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I watch foodtv obsessively and I would have to disagree about emeril. It's just my opinion, but I've learned plenty of techniques about what spices go with what ingredients. Alot of people miss those lessons because of the infectious nature of his shows. Emeril often sprinkles the show with tips and techniques, but the way he presents it isn't obvious. Especially when he follows it up with a "bam". Alton goes into greater depth than most cooking shows, but I see it as a difference in style.

  193. Not the average cooking show by mtbf · · Score: 1

    When Good Eats was first being made, did you and your staff make a concerted effort not to dumb down the material being presented, and to assume the viewer has both the intelligence and the curiosity to follow along? It's refreshing to watch a show these days present the science behind the cooking in such a non-chalant, entertaining way.

  194. Re:Suggest a good recipe using an all beef hot dog by bigweenie · · Score: 1

    Simple, yet full of garlic. How can it not be great? I think I will propose another question to Alton about the use of garlic!!!

    Thanks for the recipe. I will try it this weekend. /bigweenie

  195. Well KNOWN chef? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What are you smokin dude? Well known, maybe. Chef, in a pigs eye! Perhaps he ran a small bistro that went tits up, but well known? Horseshit!

    1. Re:Well KNOWN chef? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The web site says he ATTENDED a culinary institute
      never said he graduated. Chef? Nope just a food geek, he had better be thankful that Zee Cafigliano doesn't enter the cooking field! His wife would be OWNED!

  196. The Secret Life of Alton Brown by ExoticMandibles · · Score: 2, Interesting
    We've seen you making egg souffles, pasta salad with marinated artichoke hearts, curried pickled cauliflower... but what do you eat when other people aren't watching? What are your guilty pleasures?

    Frozen Ding-Dongs?
    Popeye's Chicken?
    Deep-fried Twinkies?

  197. Cooking for restricted diets by ak_hepcat · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It seems that in todays culture, everybody is on some diet or another. For example, I'm currently on the Atkins, while my wife is on the Suzanne Somers program. This tends to frustrate us when preparing meals. And when we have guests over, it can include vegans, ovo-lactos, omnivores, and just plain picky eaters.

    What resources do you use and/or suggest using (such as good substitutions for common ingredients that work well across a range of diets) when preparing full meals for dietary-challenged folk?

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  198. A better question? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Might be why sea salt is even better for flavoring than traditional rock salt.

  199. The Discerning Palate of Alton Brown by ExoticMandibles · · Score: 1
    You've mentioned several times in your work that you can "taste the difference" between closely-related ingredients. In the episode "Yogurt: Good Milk Gone Bad", you said you can tell whether or not homemade yogurt was made with organic milk. And in "I'm Just Here For The Food", you say (emphasis mine):

    I can always tell when food has been sprinkled with table salt because salt is the first thing I taste.

    From your book, I can tell you're a genuine scientist; your experiment with grilling steak tells me that. So: can you back up these assertions? Can you really tell? Have you done a double-blind taste test and everything?

    p.s. Because of you, I now keep brown paper bags and a stapler near the microwave...

  200. Evidence of a biological desire? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This sounds like a typical correlation == causation argument. My guess is that the reason much of the vegetarian food industry is devoted to mock products is to make it easier for the majority to switch. Well, that and people simply like making stuff that tastes good (and is, *gasp* actually good for you) out of soy and other herbs. ;)

  201. finding good food sources by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It can be tough. For the herbs, probably your best bet is to grow them yourself. (Many grow nicely on a patio or sunny window.) And then ask the produce manager at your local store to get some. In the US, the wide variety of cooking shows have shoppers asking why they can't find all those fancy things and store managers have noticed.

    I often start with finding out what *is* available. What is grown locally? Any regional foods of note? Maybe you are lucky enough to have a great local market somewhere and you just don't know about it. Ask around -- friends, people you work with, the staff at your favorite place to eat.

    I prefer to live in big cities, but I haven't always. Every time I move, the things I cook most change. I sometimes try to get the nifty ingredients that I once had by mail order or road trips, but fresh is much more important.

    Sometimes it just has to go -- I don't drink citrus juices nearly as much as I used to because my raised in Florida stubborn self won't drink concentrate and the good stuff costs twice as much here in San Francisco. I used to use good country ham in all kinds of things when I could have my pick of varieties in every store in Atlanta, but nobody in California seems to know what one is. And if someone can ever manage to pry me out of this place, I'm gonna sure miss the farmer's market up the street with twice-weekly supplies of all those Asian vegetables you have read about in books. (And as much as SF is a Foodie city, I still miss the Dekalb Farmers Market.)

    Sometimes do-it-yourself is an option, home-made bbq in the smoker, real sourdough bread by hand instead of that nasty store stuff. Or when I was in Delaware for three months I bought low-fat tofu, dry mushrooms and bottle after bottle of Soy Vay on my regular trips back home and made beef jerky from the low-grade meat I found at the store.

    Start with what you have and work from there. Don't let those spiffy tv shows make you think you absolutely must do it their way, you don't live in New York or Seattle or LA or Miami so it's time to think, not follow the script.

  202. Ask Alton: cheaper all-clad? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Love the show, love the book. I enjoyed your
    section on hardware (recommended pots & pans).
    For those of us who can't afford $100/pan
    All-Clad, what are some cheaper alternatives?

    Thanks!

  203. For the geek on the go.... by Hardwyred · · Score: 2

    Most of us have meals that are, well lacking, due to the 10 minute cooking constrait that a lot of us find ourselves on. Any reccomendations for foods that can be cooked quickly and without a lot of mess, but that don't cause us to lose our girlish figure or our tastebuds due to lack of work? Bonus points for high reheatability.

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  204. Along a similar line... by delcielo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Do you ever just completely blow a dish? Experience, I'm sure, makes your mistakes different than mine; but do you ever just taste soemthing you've cooked and say "God. What did I do to that?

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  205. Cookware a mere mortal can afford? by Eponymous+Coward · · Score: 1

    I only recently discovered you and your show after your book was reviewed here. I bought it (very cool book by the way- excellent text, nice size, nice paper, and looks really good) and since then have caught a couple of your shows. Okay- I'm hooked now.

    I think a lot of people here are like me- the gear is an important part of what makes this interesting. So now I'm thinking of investing in some cookware. I just picked up a cast iron skillet and have cooked a few meals just so that I could use my cool new skillet. Simply put- it rocks, and was very inexpensive.

    But now when I look for a few more pots and pans, I'm stunned by the price of anything that has a good reputation (specifically I've looked at All-Clad stuff).

    What should I be looking for and where should I look for it? Do you recommend picking stuff up piece-by-piece, or biting the bullet and buying something like a 9-piece set all at once? Would it be wise to skip the Williams-Sonoma and head straight to the restaurant supply house?

    -ec

  206. What's all this brown stuff? by mikehihz · · Score: 1

    What's up with cooking food and it turns brown and tastes great or turns black and is burned? What's the process? What's the difference and why does the brown stuff at the bottom of a pan taste so good?

    1. Re:What's all this brown stuff? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's called the "Maillard reaction" or, less pleasingly, as "non-enzymatic browning." It occurs when reducing sugars and amines react (under heat and in the absence of free moisture). A number of complex products are created, but what you're talking about in particular are the melanoidins -- insoluable compounds characterized by their colors and flavors. (The Japanese have a term, umami, to describe the general Maillard flavor.)

      The key elements in creating and changing the tastes of melanoidins are heat and time, acidity, and moisture. Fats, surprisingly, don't play any part in Maillard taste, but use butter with a high smoke-point oil as the reaction's catalyst.

      The science of Maillard reactions is a very hot topic (so to speak) in food science, because of its importance in everything from a good steak (charred but rare, please), to a great espresso, to bread and beer.

      BTW, melanoidins are known mutagens, but also may have antioxidant properties. I'll call the whole thing a wash and enjoy that steak, baguette, and Austrian double-bock.

      Cheers,

      - The Watchful Babbler

  207. Better question: by Charlie+Bill · · Score: 1

    If there was an Iron Chef competition, and you had your choice of Chefs being Emeril, the Naked Chef and Bobby Flay, who would you face and why?

    1. Re:Better question: by Eagle7 · · Score: 2

      Bobby Flay is an asshole.

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  208. American Cuisine by hndrcks · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Perhaps it's all the time spent watching NFL (shudder) - but how can you say American cuisine is 'dumbing down?' How can you say people don't care about what they eat? Yes, 'Colonel McBurger Pizza Taco' has sold leventy-zillion 'value meal deals', but paralleling that is an equally rapid increase in the quality and variety of food (both in restaurants and groceries). I offer the following examples of how American food is anything but 'dumbing down':

    1. The post-Prohibition recovery of American viticulture, and the general improvement of wine quality in general; (no more Ripple!)

    2. I can buy morels, prosciutto, tomatillos, good bread, taro root, radicchio, and organ meats in my local grocery store;

    3. 'Asian Cuisine' no longer implies Mai-Tai's with little umbrellas served in a coconut shell;

    4. The Food Network;

    5. Williams-Sonoma is in every metro area of 100,000 or more, it seems. Yes, it's pretentious and expensive - but it's there.

    6. Microbreweries.

    'Dumbed down'? No. American cuisine is now at its most brilliant - and it's getting better.

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    1. Re:American Cuisine by skyhook · · Score: 1

      Perhaps I wasn't specific enough. I don't seen a failure in American "Cuisine" in general, not in the way you'd refer to "French Cuisine". There are American chefs doing some amazing stuff. Even pretentious assholes like Bobby Flay put a damn fine dish on the table.

      1 and 6) Viticulture. Yes, I will fully grant you that the american wines are damn fine. But I'll counter with american beer. Yes, #6 you have Microbreweries, but those are the exception, not the rule. Find me someone discerning who likes BUD LIGHT, or even *shudder* Milwaukee's Best.

      2) Not sure where you live. I live in Cincinnati, a generic midwestern city. I can get all of those things too, but not at my grocery store. I'd have to make special trips to specialty stores. I've spent time in Manhattan and San Francisco where you CAN get those things easily. Again, that's the exception, not the rule.

      3) True, Asian Cuisine is more realistic these days. You can say the same things about other cuisines. Real Mexican, not nacho cheese laden tex-mex. Real Italian, not pizza and americanized pasta. Though all of the bad sides of those cuisines is here too. How many people in the US truly believe that Taco Bell is mexican?

      4) No argument here. The success of FoodNetwork is a clear indication that many people do enjoy food more. Though I would give them marks off for feeding into the Emeril Lagassee cult of personality. (Which is a damn shame, his Louisiana Real and Rustic is one of the best cookbooks I've ever read.)

      5) I have a love-hate relationship with WS. They are so expensive that I've never been able to bring myself to buy anything there. They also feed into the notion that expensive gadgets are required to cook, and they aren't. Granted, I lust after the All-Clad stainless cookware, but my inexpensive Calphalon I bought dirt cheap off of ebay serves me just fine.

      My question was not so much a query as to the sad state of food in America (Why Can't Johnny Saute?) but more of a question about the split in our culture. There are foodies (Hi there) and there are junkfoodies. McDonalds, Taco Bell, and their ilk are a poor legacy for america to foist upon the world. You don't see "Supercrepes" stands in the mall food court, nor do you see a worldwide chain of Charlie Trotter's.

      There's a serious dichotomy in American cuisine between good food and fast food.

    2. Re:American Cuisine by elefantstn · · Score: 2
      1 and 6) Viticulture. Yes, I will fully grant you that the american wines are damn fine. But I'll counter with american beer. Yes, #6 you have Microbreweries, but those are the exception, not the rule. Find me someone discerning who likes BUD LIGHT, or even *shudder* Milwaukee's Best.


      So your point is that there are crappy, mass-produced beers in America? Well, duh. But America may be the finest beer-brewing nation in the world right now. Don't take my word for it, ask famous British beer reviewer Michael Jackson.

      2) Not sure where you live. I live in Cincinnati, a generic midwestern city. I can get all of those things too, but not at my grocery store. I'd have to make special trips to specialty stores. I've spent time in Manhattan and San Francisco where you CAN get those things easily. Again, that's the exception, not the rule.


      And I live in Harrisburg, a generic Mideast city, where these things are often available at the grocery store (in far greater quantity than even two years ago), but I also have to go to specialty stores for some of it. The thing is, there are now specialty stores, whereas they didn't exist 5 years ago. Beautiful!

      3) True, Asian Cuisine is more realistic these days. You can say the same things about other cuisines. Real Mexican, not nacho cheese laden tex-mex. Real Italian, not pizza and americanized pasta. Though all of the bad sides of those cuisines is here too. How many people in the US truly believe that Taco Bell is mexican?


      I still don't see your point -- that not everyone in America has discerning taste? True. But also true for the entire world.


      My question was not so much a query as to the sad state of food in America (Why Can't Johnny Saute?) but more of a question about the split in our culture. There are foodies (Hi there) and there are junkfoodies. McDonalds, Taco Bell, and their ilk are a poor legacy for america to foist upon the world. You don't see "Supercrepes" stands in the mall food court, nor do you see a worldwide chain of Charlie Trotter's.

      There's a serious dichotomy in American cuisine between good food and fast food.


      There's a serious dichotomy everywhere between those two things. There are crappy fast-food type places the world over. And there are good fast-food type places the world over -- fantastic taco stands in Mexico, panini in Italy, etc., just like there are great delis and pizza places in the US.

      There's nothing wrong with food in America -- if anything, it's in a far greater state than the rest of the world because it doesn't have the reliance on tradition and authenticity that can sometimes stifle development.
      --
      If it ain't broke, you need more software.
  209. Ignoring the facts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Our entire digestive system appears to be designed (or evolved, depending on your position) around processing fruits, grains, nuts, etc. It is not very efficient at digesting soil, meats, etc.

    I won't get into the 'extremist group' argument because there are extremists in every group. That does not mean the concepts behind the group as a whole are biased or unfounded.

    1. Re:Ignoring the facts by Fascist+Christ · · Score: 1

      Our entire digestive system appears to be designed (or evolved, depending on your position) around processing fruits, grains, nuts, etc. It is not very efficient at digesting soil, meats, etc.

      Efficiency has nothing to do with it. Do you think that cats and dogs and wolves and lions and rabbits and bears oh my are conscerned with efficiency? Nope. Morality? Nope. They eat what they like.

      --
      TodayTM BillyJoelTM GoogleTMd for StitchTMes due to WindowsTM while RollerbladeTMing with an AppleTM and a PopsicleTM
  210. Copying Recipes by hondo77 · · Score: 1

    Alton, great book. However, why would a chef who copies recipes out of books produce a book where the hardware/software parts of the recipes are in dark green (not a friendly copier color)?

    --
    I live ze unknown. I love ze unknown. I am ze unknown.
  211. Two questions I'd like to ask... by Inari · · Score: 1


    1) Maybe you've not heard this belief before, but I've heard it repeatedly - microwaved food will get just as hot but it cools faster. Heat transfer is heat transfer right? I mean this can't be true and yet I'd swear that that egg I scrambled in the microwave burned my mouth at first but was fine in about 30 seconds. Is this all in peoples heads?

    2) I like giving a rice cooker to a non-cook starting to stock their first kitchen. It can be used and abused for a lot of recipes and isn't a space hog (I also give a collection of tips my asian wife and I have come up with for it). What's the first kitchen item/tool/appliance you'd give?

    1. Re:Two questions I'd like to ask... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope, that's a myth-perception, as it were -- the opposite is true! Microwaves cook from the inside-out (or, rather, from everywhere-out), while stovetop and oven cooking goes from the outside-in. Try cooking something with a gooey center -- a food chemist suggested a jelly doughnut -- wait until the outside seems cool, then bite into it. The searing pain and massive blistering will show that, indeed, the food is still quite hot.

      I'm joking about the jelly doughnut, of course. Microwave it, then offer it to that fat guy with the gimmie cap who's always washing his GTO on the corner.

      Cheers,

      - The Watchful Babbler

  212. Where next for beginners? by Narcopolo · · Score: 1

    Hi Alton, I've gotten your very fun book, "I'm Just Here For the Food", and watch your show regularly (thank you TiVo).

    I believe I've mastered How To Follow A Recipe, which took me a lot longer than I thought it would, probably because I was making Belgian food. Besides you, what resources are there for someone who wants to take the next step and Learn How To Cook? I'm willing to spend money experimenting and reading, but I'm not willing to go to school again. Ever.

    --
    I used to be a cynic, then I got disillusioned with it.
  213. Cooking for looks by macdaddy · · Score: 2

    Do you have any suggestions for all the geeks out there on how or what to cook that makes us look good to our geek girls while not being too hard to accomplish? Ie, how to pick a wine and use it in a recipe or how to cook something with veggies that look good to a woman and yet aren't rubbery? Geek girls dig these things from what I hear. :)

  214. Your Previous Experiments by withak53 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Mr. Brown,

    In the interest of comedy and safety could you tell us of some of your experiments that didn't quite make it to the screen or page?

  215. Beef Stew by aes12 · · Score: 0

    Find a good recipe for beef stew, and follow it. It's cheap, freezes well, leftovers are actually better than fresh, and it pretty easy to cook, if you pay attention to what you're doing. Use lean beef, and season it well, and you will fill all of the above requirements.

  216. Non-Reactive Cookware by OldTome · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Hi Alton,

    I always hear "Use a non-reactive pan for this".
    But what exactly is the "reaction" in a reactive pan and how does it affect the food your cooking?

    Also what materials make up non-reactive and reactive cookware?

    Thanks.

    --
    The more you want, the less you have.
    1. Re:Non-Reactive Cookware by hnewburn · · Score: 1

      Aluminum and copper are examples of reactive materials. They will oxidize (giving things a nasty color and mettalic taste) in acidic environments.

      Stainless steel, glass and plastic are non-reactive and can be used to marinade (and if they can take the heat, cook) more acidic foods.

  217. How to mask fishy flavors? by catslaugh · · Score: 1

    Fish is a wonderfully healthy food, but a friend of mine can't stand the characteristic flavor of fish. Can you recommend any cooking processes that diminish that "fishy" taste, or particular types of fish that lack it?

    --
    "Before enlightenment: sharpen claws, catch mice. After enlightenment: sharpen claws, catch mice."
    1. Re:How to mask fishy flavors? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rare tuna. Alternatively, try a hearty and low-moisture fillet such as monkfish; they stand up to grilling and sauteeing much better than the more tender types, and thus you can develop a good browning. You can also increase the acidity, which tends to cut through the "fishy" flavors somewhat. (I like marinating fish in lime juice, then lightly breading the fillets with panko.)

      Cheers,

      -The Watchful Babbler

    2. Re:How to mask fishy flavors? by hnewburn · · Score: 1

      Soaking fish (or other gamey flavored food)in milk will remove musky/oily odors and flavors. Most white-fleshed fish (Roughy, Cod, Basa, etc) won't have the "fishy" flavor or smell. Keep in mind that most fish should smell like the ocean, not like FISH!. More oily fish will have a heavier aroma (salmon, sea bass, monk fish) but still should smell more like the ocean than a cannery.

  218. Do it yourself Restaurants by AnotherScratchMonkey · · Score: 0

    The Good Eats restaurant would involve customers building their own food with helpful "technicians" standing by to assist in technique and choice of ingredients, and to explain why one does things a certain way. It would be the Exploratorium of food.

  219. Gadgets and Gizmos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm curious as to why you place so much emphasis on gadgets and gizmos and utensils in your show. It's seems to distract greatly from the cooking and plays up a common misperception that you need alot of stuff (pans, knives, utensils) to cook.

  220. How to cook "off-the-cuff" by shpoffo · · Score: 1

    I've been interested for a while about how to freestyle cook with anything (edible) that is laying arond my pantry and fridge (and yard?). I'm wondering if there are a few basic categories of food which are combined in a semi-logical manner. I know this is kind of a dorky-algorithm approach to the problem, but hey, this is slashdot, that's what you get. =)

    I've cooked with indian foods a bit and I can see some basic trends in how the ingredient are combined. (indian food being more complex than american fare, IMO) I know in time I'll develop a sense for how it all goes together such that i'll be able to do it with any ingredients, but i'm wondering if you've experienced any condensable tidbits that can help people along.

    thanks

    -Z

  221. I Got One... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    This seems to work pretty well. I've used it bunches of times when travelling. Just have half a beer the morning after. The folks who mentioned it to me mumbled something about it resetting your body chemistry or something. Needless to say, starting the morning off with a beer on a regular basis might be something you should worry about. I only reserve this one for emergency type situations (Like I gotta fly back to the US from Europe and am badly hung over.)

    If you do this, keep in mind that your body is probably pretty dehydrated. I usually try to get a glass or two of water in before bed and you'll want to have another couple before you get rolling in the morning too.

  222. Re:Vegetarians - a hamburger is just packaging by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The "look of meat" as you refer, is actually just packaging. A hamburger looks nothing like a cow and a hot dog nothing like a pig. The meat is packaged in those forms to provide a convenient way to consume said food. The veggie food is just a similar (familiar) package to consume soy bean protien.

  223. How to be an Herb-ivore by sparrow_hawk · · Score: 1
    Okay, I'm from a small Midwestern town where people think "basil" is the name of some guy off an old TV show... maybe I can help.

    The short answer: your garden.

    The longer answer: herbs (and for that matter, most vegetables) are reasonably easy to grow yourself. Some tips:
    • Fast-growing annuals like coriander (aka. cilantro), cumin, and dill start easily from seed and grow like weeds. Buy them from the grocery store/WalMart, dig up several square feet of back yard, plant, and forget.
    • Chives also start well from seed; buy a large pot and plant another grocery-store packet, or expand that plot in the back yard. I personally prefer garlic chives to the standard variety.
    • Basil, oregano, and other slower-growing annuals are best purchased from a local greenhouse and/or a mailorder firm that will ship live plants such as Territorial, though you may have luck with seed.
    • Parsely, a biannual, is best purchased, because the seeds are hard to germinate. However, the grocery-store greenhouse will probably suffice.
    • Perennials like rosemary, thyme, and sage are much more finicky and should always be bought as plants to save on mental anguish.
    • As a general rule, annuals can be grown either in the ground or in pots.
    • Perennials can be grown in a garden, but where I live (Zone 4) winters are so harsh that most herbs won't survive. I've had reasonably good luck keeping my perennials in pots outside during the summer, and bringing them inside during the winter.
    • If you do decide to go that route, be careful when putting the pots outside in the spring. Herbs generally do best when they're not in full sun, but not in full shade either. 75-25 sun-shade is where I'd put it. Don't put them in direct sunlight as soon as they arrive from the greenhouse.
    • Conversely, make sure that your plants get adequate sun and water in the winter. I've lost more plants to neglect than I have to anything else, normally over semester-test week or some other hideously busy period.
    • Buy big pots -- they hold more water, so you don't have to water as frequently.
    • When you get your plants home from the nursery, repot them immediately; don't wait a week. The little thimble-fulls of dirt the plants live in dry out very fast, so unless you like watering your plants every hour and a half...
    • Fertilizer is a necessity for potted plants. A little 20-20-20 whenever I water works well for me.
    • Don't get discouraged if you lose a plant or two -- just buy another set and change the variables until you find something that works!

    And above all, enjoy your plants! Being an herb-ivore can be a lot of fun! :-)
    1. Re:How to be an Herb-ivore by oldmanmtn · · Score: 1

      Thyme and sage are not tricky. They grow easily from seed and and are incredibly tough. I have both growing in direct sun in fairly dry soil, and they are thriving. I live on the edge of Zones 4 & 5, and I've never had a problem with these two lasting the winter. I've tried bringing thyme inside each winter, and it always dies by mid-January. It's much easier to scrape the snow off the outdoor plants and harvest what I need.

      I cut each of them almost to the ground after each winter, and they spring right back up. (They should probably be cut back in the fall, but then what would I do for sage when roasting turkey in the winter?)

      --
      - Old Man of the Mountain ---- "I want to disturb my neighbor"
    2. Re:How to be an Herb-ivore by mofolotopo · · Score: 1

      I do have an herb garden and have had one several times before. The problem is that I keep having to move right as my garden really starts to get going. I've got some sage, dill, carrots, and lemon basil going right now along with some leeks that are rather dispirited. Hopefully I'll be able to do a lot more when I leave for grad school; I haven't lived in the same place for more than 18 months as an undergrad. Given my ephemeral residency (I'm not an English major, I swear) and general busy schedule, I think it's still going to be at least a few years before I get a good garden started. Thank you very much for the advice, though, I've copied and pasted it for future reference.

    3. Re:How to be an Herb-ivore by sparrow_hawk · · Score: 1

      Whoops! That Territorial wasn't quite the one I meant -- sorry to anyone who landed at a "portal" page.

      The seed company that will ship you live plants is Territorial Seeds.

  224. Home Cooking Basics by Sylvan · · Score: 1

    Dear Alton,

    What purchases would you recommend for a first-time cooking enthusiast to outfit a kitchen? In terms of multi-purpose tools, books, pantry ingredients and other items, what are most useful, across-the-board?

    Yours,
    David J Rust
    (Sylvan)

  225. Gettin' Your Learn On by The+FMD · · Score: 1

    Hi AB,

    When I'm not web surf..er..I mean...programming at work during the day or building smokers in my backyard at night, I dream that I have another 8 hours/day to attend culinary school. What do you consider to be most valuable lesson(s) that you learned when you went to culinary school?

  226. Forget the tools ... what's in your pantry? by Greedo · · Score: 1

    What would you consider the essential ingredients to keep stocked in your pantry? And how long do these items keep? I'm sure the box of baking powder I rarely use isn't as good as when I bought it 3 years ago.

    And fresh herbs ... your recipe calls for a sprinkle of dill or coriander or something, so go buy a bunch from the local market. After you've used your sprinkle, what is the best way to keep the remainder fresh? I've found that putting parsley in a glass of water (like flowers in a vase) in the fridge seems to work okay ... but you're the guy with the TV show.

    --
    Tuus crepidae innexilis sunt.
  227. Radiation+Time=Dead Bugs by kc0dxh · · Score: 1

    No way for me to tell, but if your pork product has been irradiated there's no need to worry about Trichinosis.

    Can anyone in the packing industry comment on whether or not all pork produced in the US is irradiated?

    From Central Iowa

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    --- "1.21 Jigawatts!" -Doc

  228. CaJohn's by MicroBerto · · Score: 2
    Do not get hot unless you are a glutton for punishment.

    Give me a break, that stuff's for toddlers. If you guys want some REAL hot sauce, go to CaJohns. It's 10 minutes away from my apartment in Columbus, and these guys are for real. Sauces are extremely hot and tasty, and the employees are cool as hell. I recommend ANY of the "Kaboom!" salsas, and my favorite sauces are Krakatoa (the #1 seller), Liquid Stupid, and Harold's Dangerously Hot. My brother's favorite is actually a parady one, "Sir Fartsalot", which is jalepeno-based. I just didn't like the taste, and it was too weak for me. I'll stick to the red-savina habenero peppered-powered sauces. They win tons of awards, and for good reason.

    Warning - Now THESE sauces are for "glutton for punishment"s... and they have a few hotter ones too. Never have I had so much flavor and spice together. Sometimes one drop is all that's needed for a boom.

    Good hot sauce like CaJohns will make any bland food taste good.

    --
    Berto
    1. Re:CaJohn's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you like Habanero sauces, eh? Habaneros taste like shit, and so do habanero sauces. There is a reason that habanero sauces are recent to the scene ... for the hundreds of years that people have been making hot sauces, they went for flavor and heat, not just heat. Habanero sauces are the result of recent pissing contests where the only factor which matters is heat. Taste doesn't even enter into it.

      Down with habanero sauces.

    2. Re:CaJohn's by MicroBerto · · Score: 2

      I would have agreed with you.. until I tried these sauces. They throw in all sorts of extra stuff that zing it back to reality. Chipotle peppers in the salsa - wow!

      --
      Berto
    3. Re:CaJohn's by Buck2 · · Score: 1

      Habaneros taste like shit, and so do habanero sauces.

      You're funny. We grow habaneros in our garden and regularly use them to make salsas. They taste fantastic, if a bit potent for guests.

      Habaneros are a wonderful little plant. And nicely colorful, too.

      As for hundreds of years of no habaneros in sauces, aren't you neglecting the Mexican culture?

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      As my father lik@(munch munch)... ....
  229. Food technology by ruiner13 · · Score: 3, Informative
    Mr. Brown,

    seeing as this is a science and technology related site, I figured I'd try to relate my questions to this topic. Ok, so here goes.

    1. What do you feel are the most important inventions/advancements in food preparation/service technology in the last 25 years, and which do you use the most in your cooking (i've seen you use just about anything not nailed down on Good Eats!).
    2. What areas of food perparation/service do you feel can still be benefited more by future technology?

    I know that's technically two questions, but they're kinda related. Also, thanks for having such a great show, I have learned a lot from you, and look forward to reading your book!

    --

    today is spelling optional day.

  230. Breast Milk Yogurt story? by patgas · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I think I've read a quote from you that says the strangest thing you've ever made was yogurt from your wife's breast milk. If this is true, I think I'd like to hear the story of how you came up with this idea...

  231. gelatinous roux Re:Questions on sauces... by loudici · · Score: 1

    If you leave the bones in when you are making your chicken broth you ARE manufacturing gelatine. No
    need to look further.

    L

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    Dev elpizw tipota, dev phoboumai tipota eimai lephteros http://euclidian.org
    1. Re:gelatinous roux Re:Questions on sauces... by DJerman · · Score: 2
      Inquire a little deeper -- flour-based thickeners thicken when they cool (that is, what coats a spoon at a simmer may stand a spoon upright at 40 degrees).

      Either way, when you heat the sauce the gelatin should dissolve, and the flour should loosen up again. But if you're heating a thin layer in the microwave it may dry out a bit -- try making the sauce thinner than you want it ultimately, and/or do some of the "don'ts" from the gelatin show. (fresh pineapple or papaya, for instance) Heating the sauce separately will help too, as you can beat it into submission with your fork, and make any liquidous adjustments prior to application.

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  232. Knives, pots and such. by Attilla_The_Pun · · Score: 2, Informative

    One of my biggest, most irksome things aobut my kitchen is that most of my knives are either bought at Wal-Mart, or else rescued from the Salvation Army. NOw, I'm not wanting to spen $500 and up for a knife set, but if I am looking for something that will cut very easily, and last a good, long time inbetween being sharpened, what am I needing to look for? Is Japanese cutlery still very much superior to American steel these days, or are they even? Are there certain materials to avoid?

    Along that same vein, I use teflon pots and pans when I cook. But when I watch the food network, I almost constantly see stainless steel, non coated stuff. Why? What am I doing wrong that might cause me to be abusing non-coated pans? What's the advantage ot stainless steel?

    Thanks!

    --
    ...Somewhere, there is a chile you cannot eat." --Daniel Pinkwater in A Hot Time in Na
    1. Re:Knives, pots and such. by Eagle7 · · Score: 2

      Well, I don't know what Alton would think (actually, I know, he doesn't trust aluminum) but I have some ideas.

      1) Target has a nice set of heavy drop forged Henkel knives for under $200. Not cheap, but they are good knives with good steel that will last, and aren't overkill. Make sure you do get knives with a flat edge - those "eversharp" things with the little teeth suck. And perhaps most importantly, when you get a good knife, learn how to sharpen it and do it correctly, otherwise it is a waste.

      2) Check out something like (again, expensive) Calphalon Hard Anodized aluminum. If you use it the way the instructions say, it should be as easy to clean as non-stick, and still work like a good old pan (i.e. sear, etc) Alton recommends cast-iron, which I don't really like working with, but that's a much less expensive option.

      3) Get your ass married. I'm on my way, and the best part so far was registering for my cookware.

      Without further ado, I am off to make dinner!

      --
      _sig_ is away
  233. Influences by dasmegabyte · · Score: 2

    What are your biggest influences, both as a chef and as a television producer? Seems to me your show has the frenetic pace of The Electric Company, the hands-on experimentation of Mr. Wizard and a secretive Abby Hoffman "Steal this cookbook" style of hints & tips, combined with the chemical correctness of Shirley Corriher and a certain culinary curtness that avoids a lot of the over spicing and excess ingredients of, say, B. Flay. What chefs interested you in a career in a telecuisine, and what's your flavor of non-cooking TV?

    --
    Hey freaks: now you're ju
  234. 2nd Law by EccentricAnomaly · · Score: 2

    Entropy marches ever onward. The 2nd law of thermodynamics makes it very difficult to uncook a pizza, unbrew a beer, or unspoil a banana. All of that disorder isn't reversible.

    Of course, if you bury the rotten banana under a banana tree then you could get a fresh banana from the tree eventually... but that new banana would only be partly made from the rotten banana - other material would have gone into its construction.

    --
    There are 10 types of people in this world, those who can count in binary and those who can't.
    1. Re:2nd Law by glk572 · · Score: 1

      Entropy is the general trend of the universe, not a constant progression. Life forms can and do increase order by their immediate actions. This however increases entropy through the energy they exert in doing so. For example an air compressor would seem to violate the principle of entropy by increasing the order in the universe by creating pressurized air that can be made to do work. However throughout the existence of the air compressor it is actually increasing entropy by being manufactured, consuming energy, being repaired, and eventually breaking. The small amount that it reverses entropy is nothing compared to the amount of energy that it consumes. So in effect it is taking a step forwards at the expense of taking two steps back. So why can't you un-cook food. It would seem only to require the rearrangement of the molecules in the food. Infact it could be said that the act of eating food would be a process of un-cooking it. We dismantle the food by digesting it, the vast majority of the food is used for energy or to make repairs, a small amount of the food is integrated into what ever ate it. In effect un-cooking that afore mentioned burnt roast. The roast is uncooked appearing to violate the 2nd law of thermodynamics but the vast majority it's energy is lost as heat, so in the process entropy is increased.

      Entropy as a trend not a constant state. At any one time locally entropy can appear to go backwards.

      --
      Well art is art isn't it, but then again water is water; and east is east; and west is west; and if you take cranberries
  235. Cooking methodologies by geekoid · · Score: 2

    As hard as I try, I just can't come up with a good way to cook Soylent Green, can you give some advice on the subject.

    I'll be in line all day on tuesday for some, but I'll check for an answer after curfew...

    --
    The Kruger Dunning explains most post on /. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
  236. Krispy Creme Incident by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did this really happen?

    http://www.ericwagoner.com/weblog/archives/00130 3. html

    1. Re:Krispy Creme Incident by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      mod this one up!

  237. bobby.flay.die.die.die by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    So is Bobby Flay as much an ass in real life as he seems to be on TV?

  238. What Cookbooks would you recommend... by Leareth · · Score: 1

    Obviously, I have an allready much dogeared copy of "I'm Just here for the Food", but I was wondering what books you'd recommend as staples for the cookbook bookshelf?

    Here is the short list I've so far collected:

    On Food and Cooking: Harold McGee
    Cookwise: Shirley O. Corriher (Great Book!)
    How to be a Domestic Goddess: Nigella Lawson
    The Science of Cooking: Peter Barham

    --
    *A)bort, R)etry, I)nfluence with large hammer.*
  239. Question by fudgefactor7 · · Score: 1

    Why use Ksoher salt? WHy not just compensate for the correct amount of regular granular salt?

  240. Diet styles? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    My wife and I recently started a low carb diet. Believe it or not eggs and steak can get a little boring. Any plans on doing shows based on different diet styles (low carb, etc).

  241. Answer from the book by drew_kime · · Score: 2
    As for the question: how does he come up with these rather novel cooking methods? Is it trial and error (and, if so, what errors)?
    One of his errors was where he placed the charcoal starter. You know, tube-with-a-handle things you use to get the coal going good before dumping it into the grill? He set one of these down on the driveway to heat up and left it alone for a while. When he came back, he discovered that the gravel driveway had conducted the heat all the way to the side and melted the sprinkler system. As he was standing there marvelling at this effect, the soles of his shoes melted.
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  242. Favorite gadgets/future kitchen gadgets by jeaster · · Score: 1

    I am a huge fan of this show.....my wife became worried when I picked up the loudest Hawaiian shirt I could find so I could wear it to Alton's cooking demo locally :) What I would like to know is, what are your favorite tech gadgets, and how do you use them for the kitchen? Follow up to that, Where do you see new gadgets popping up in the kitchen, or what would you like to see....Internet enabled Fridge? DVD player/Oven? Grill/Hot Air Balloon launcher? Thanks, Jeff

  243. Your Favorite Books by atubbs · · Score: 1

    We've already heard about your excellent book from the previous Slashdot review. After picking up this book, and thoroughly devouring its contents, it leaves me wondering what books you consider essential? With so many books of recipes, dictionaries of ingredients, and encyclopedias of techniques, there must be a few choice texts that you find absolutely essential, both for learning how to cook, and for reference once one is an accomplished cook.

  244. Unamerican Meats by j1mmy · · Score: 1

    Have you ever cooked/eaten any meats that are taboo in the U.S.? I'm thinking dog, cat, whale, seal, etc. Is it silly for these meats to be excluded from American menus?

  245. Cook's Illustrated by brianerst · · Score: 1
    Alton -

    I've heard that Shirley Corriher (your favorite food technologist) has some sort of consultnig relationship with Cook's Illustrated, but do you and Christopher Kimball ever chat?

    The reason I ask is I am amazed at how often I will read a copy of Cook's Illustrated and then see their latest "discovery" (brining was one) show up on the next episode of Good Eats (and vice versa). Given production and publishing schedules, I'm certain no one is ripping off anyone else here, but are you all reading the same stuff, talking to each other, or hanging out with Shirley at the same time?

    BTW, the 8-3-1 + 1 basic rub "recipe" is terrific! (Even if I tend to +2 rather than +1)

  246. Oils and Infusions by Cliffenz · · Score: 1

    In certain Indian, Italian, and Chinese recipes it calls for cooking the spices in the cooking oil, before putting the food in the pan.

    How does this work and why?

    I always enjoy the results but am mystified by the process.

    1. Re:Oils and Infusions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I primarily stir-fry when I cook. The reason to my understanding is to release the fragrance and impart the flavor of ginger/garlic/chilis to the food. If you were to put the spices in after the large ingredients like veggies and meat, the heat is significantly lower. The end result is it doesn't turn out as fragrant. Heating the spices releases the oils and allows the cooking oil mix with the spice oils. This way the oil can coat the food with flavor.

  247. Okay, I'm from a small Midwestern town by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    where people think "basil" is the name of some guy off an old TV show.

    Excellent post, by the way.

    But I would like to make one comment, being: The same people who have no concept of Basil have no concept of political theory. They'll vote for anyone who hoodwinks them into oblivion, a la Bush. I feel so bad the current administration can lie and rob these people, and they continue to vote staight ticket Republican.

    Maybe a bit of help from your fine herb garden will soothe the burden of the next two black years.

    ps Bay plants grow very well also, and the leaves are great for soup or gumbo.

  248. Why do cooking books always use the phrase. . . . by Com2Kid · · Score: 2

    What is up with the use of the phrase "cook until done"???

    Seriously, err, what is 'done' per say? I end up cooking hamburger meat for ~20 minutes or so until it is brown all over, what does 'until done' mean exactly? In each particular case?

    I end up cooking scrambled eggs until they are all stuck to the bottom of the pan and have to be scrapped off, or until they are smoking and burning up to a crisp.

    Why to so many cook books never actually describe what 'until done' is for each particular type of food? Even better, why not a more analytical cookbook that says "keep turning them every 3 minutes for about 10 minutes, a minute or so less if you like your meat rare or a minute or so more if you like it extra-well done"

  249. Re:Cooking In Lava (my guess) by gosand · · Score: 2
    How is it possible, using a heat source at 2000 degrees (that granted, gets cooler over time) that it still takes 45 minutes to cook the game hen? We would have thought that the cooking would have been near instantanous - but repeated experiments at various lengths of time reveal that it takes exactly as long in the lava, as in an oven.

    Meat is a bad conductor of heat. You even said yourself that it cools down pretty quickly, and within twenty minutes is down to an oven-like temperature. I bet the meat chars on the surface, and the charred flesh just doesn't conduct that heat very well, and the heat is dissipating out into the air. As for the leaves, the water content is probably protecting them, providing a steam wrapper.

    Now if you had that hen inside an insulated oven at 2000 degrees, it might be a different story.

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  250. Would you do the show in High-Definition? by K8Fan · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I have a High-Definition system and love it, but there's one thing missing - an HD cooking show. You really seem to be into having a show that looks different than all the other cooking shows. Any possibility of making at least one demo show in HD? Marc Cuban's HD-NET would show it.

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  251. Genetically engineered foods by Atl_kevin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Mr. Brown, let me say how much i enjoy your show. and you book. i just gave a copy to my sister in law as a gift and she loves it too. My question is how do you feel about the move toward genetically engineered foods. are you in favor of it and do you see, if it continues, new metods of preparing genetically engineered foods in the future?

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  252. Why NECI by lotussuper7 · · Score: 1

    Why NECI, rather than Johnson & Wales or the CIA?

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  253. Most Memorable Mistake? by Mebbekew · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A few weeks ago, while trying my hand at french pastry-making, I nearly set fire to my oven as an overflowing tray of oil and melted butter (don't ask) splashed all over the red hot elements, generated copious amounts of acrid smoke, and threatened to ignite. I'm sure that with as much cooking experience as you have, you've seen many hilarious kitchen accidents.

    What are the most memorable accidents, or acts of blatant stupidity, that you've seen or taken part in during cooking?

  254. What was hardest? by lotussuper7 · · Score: 1

    What was the most difficult technique to learn or lesson, for you, while you were at NECI?

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  255. Gravy? by cr0sh · · Score: 3, Interesting
    My question:

    What, exactly, is the science and process behind making good and wholesome gravy?

    Seriously, Alton - my wife yesterday, when I mentioned that this was going to be an "Ask /." interview, told me that she wanted to pay YOU $1000.00 (US) to come over to our house to teach her how to make gravy. I am almost ready to front that amount, too.

    It seems like every time we have tried to make gravy, it either never thickens, or we get paste. It seems like a simple thing to do - leave some pan drippings (and the grungy gunk too - flavor bits!), add a tiny bit of flour, mix and brown to create a nice roue (or however that is spelled), then add some milk, and perhaps a little more flour to thicken (salt, pepper, and spicing to taste).

    I think we managed ONCE to create a real gravy.


    So Alton, my question is:

    HOW DO YOU MAKE GRAVY???!!!

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    1. Re:Gravy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      im 19, ive been making gravy with my mom since as far back as i remember. Are you stirring constantly? You cant stop stirring or it gets lumpy.. If its too thin, add more flower. Keep stirring as you add, sift the flower too.

    2. Re:Gravy? by juanfe · · Score: 1

      You should check out the pot roast episode... gravy was a pretty extensive theme.

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    3. Re:Gravy? by elefantstn · · Score: 2

      The two things my mother always did were stir constantly and use corn starch instead of flour.

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  256. Science of Cooking Sirloin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can you explain how a sirloin steak tastes drastically different from ground sirloin patted back together in the form of a hamburger. The chemical properties are the exact same yet the taste isn't.

  257. What type of camping/fire? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My cousin, this past week, did some amazing things with a whole set of dutch ovens and a little cooking table. This was at an established camp with a cabin, and vehicle access to real close by.

    He is known to backpack and camp quite often. My brother asked if he had done this on one of his hiking fishing trips. I looked at him incredulously, as there was at least 60 pounds of cast iron in his table, and ovens, and that is conservative, I think.

    What type of camping are you doing? Is there and established camp with a few niceties (running/pumped water)? Are you packing in (and hopefully out)? Cooking with wood, charcoal, gas, or some other method (sun maybe)?

    You asked a very good, but very broad question. Camping means too many things to too many people.

    To some people KOA is camping, and some people it isn't camping until the second days hike away from the nearest modern convenience.

  258. kitchen software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you use any software in your kitchen (recipe mgmt, inventory, food science reference, etc)?

  259. Empirical cooking? by jakeblue · · Score: 1
    Alton,

    I have your show TiVo'd and quite enjoy it. I also enjoyed the spot you did on NPR.

    My question concerns your scientific approach to cooking and deriving recipes. I've noticed it's similar to the approach taken by the folks at Cooks Illustrated (on the web here and here).

    The process the Chris Kimball and the CI folks take is to start with the known recipes for a dish, and distill them into a master recipe using a mix of food science and empirical cooking. How would you describe your approach to science in your cooking? Do you start with what you know about ingredients and build the recipe from the ground up, or do you start with known recipes and tear them down and rebuild as necessary?

  260. Trek Question by pdrome4robert · · Score: 1

    If food replicators existed, ala Star Trek, would you use one in your home?

  261. Value of Formal Education by en0chr00t · · Score: 1

    I'm curious to know how important you feel your formal culinary education was / is to the success of your career? A strong part of the "hacker" ethic so prevalent on Slashdot is the DIY mentality. As a person who has both a formal education (B.A.+, English) and a career (Computer Security Consultant) pretty much founded on DIY / on-the-job / figure-it-out-because-it-interests-you (with a smattering of formal certifications) style of learning, I have mixed feelings about this sort of thing.

    I guess my interest is mostly related to how you were recieved pre / post education. Could you have done a show like Good Eats without the degree under your belt? I'm sure that much of your success is founded on motivation / creativity / etc., but do you feel that that would have been enough?

  262. Kitchen disasters by Grackle · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Hi Alton, Can you tell us about some of your most memorable, instructive or whacky kitchen disasters?

  263. Health and frying with used oil by lparsons · · Score: 1

    In watching your show and reading your book, I have noticed that you often discuss how to reuse fry oil. I have heard that this is unhealthy due to the creation of free radicals in the oil during the first use. What are your thoughts about reusing oil and free radicals?

    I did notice that you discuss smoke points of various oils and try to ensure you don't push the tempurate of oil past that point. You also account for the reduction of the smoke point when reusing oil. Does this help to reduce the formation of free radicals?

    Thanks. Keep up the fantastic work! Best show on FoodTV!

  264. FYI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I am the original poster.

    I posted this question with the intent of learning how I could help my fiancee become a better cook, because cooking is something she wants to get better at. Currently, I do most of the cooking, and I don't mind, I like to cook.

    For everyone making assumptions about our relationship, shove it.

  265. What technoloogy assists you in cooking? by Foundryman · · Score: 1

    Was wondering how you use computer tedchnology to help in cooking and preparing for your shows. For instance:

    If you use a computer, what brand and type is it?

    What operating system does the pc run?

    What software do you maintain recipe archives with? (Commercial like Mastercook or self made?)

    What websites do you find most useful for getting cooking info, other than your own?

    When are you coming out to my place to do a grilling show from my back deck?

  266. Semi-authoritative answer by RebornData · · Score: 2

    The good folks at Cook's Illustrated did some research into this when they did their basic pasta recipe. The end result is that they found that there were no detectable taste differences between pasta cooked in water coming from the hot water or cold water taps. The hot water does cut a few minutes off the boiling time (like 3-4), so they actually recommended it as a technique. They didn't mention the lead issue discussed in some other posts, but I have a hard time believing that this would be a problem in a house with a reasonably modern plumbing system and water heater.

    BTW- like Good Eats, Cook's Illustrated (the magazine, the website and their cookbooks) is an *excellent* geek cooking resource. They employ the scientific method in trying to develop the "Best Recipe" (the title of their main cookbook) for each dish they make. When they attack a recipe, they will research many cookbooks to learn about how something generally is made, and then will experiment with different ingredients, techniques and measurements to find the best outcome, based on the feedback of their tasting lab. Where there is interesting food science to explain, they'll do so, much like Alton. Of course, it's not entertaining like Good Eats is, but you will learn a *lot*, and everything I've made from their recipes has tasted great and been relatively foolproof.

    1. Re:Semi-authoritative answer by gleam · · Score: 2

      Alton also admits that he is a huge fan of Cook's Illustrated, and draws much of his culinary and presentation style from them--make a recipe as foolproof as possible.

      For the geeks out there, the cook's illustrated website is fairly cheap ($25/yr i think) and has every recipe/article/etc they've published.. the only problems are that the site is unbelievably slow, and the recipes are pretty terribly categorized.

      Cecil Adams from the Straight Dope also addressed this issue. Naturally, the fastest boil came from water that had already been boiled once and allowed to cool.

      http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a2_101c.htm l

      Dear Cecil:

      Which boils faster--hot (or very hot) water or cold water? --Jane H., formerly of Chicago, now of Washington, D.C.

      P.S.: You must have seen this one coming!

      Cecil replies:

      I resigned myself to it long ago, buttercup. As any sane and decent person would expect, hot water out of the tap will boil faster than cold water out of the tap. However, water that has been boiled once and allowed to cool will boil faster than hot water out of the tap. That's because boiling gets rid of the dissolved oxygen usually found in water, making it easier for the water to boil the second time around. There's money in this somewhere, I'm sure of it.

      --CECIL ADAMS

      My favorite episode of good eats, I think, is "Scrapiron Chef"... seeing him smoke bacon in three lockers is really unbeatable.

      -gleam

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  267. Good attention to detail by L0rdV4der · · Score: 1

    Here's my question (address to Mr. Brown)

    Love your show, like the amount of humor added to it. Some shows take themselves too seriously. Anyway...

    I noticed that some of your shows focus on one particular item, going into great detail about some things that other shows miss (what the best kind of beef roast is, how to arrange your coals for better grilling, etc). I appreciate the attention to detail, and I was wondering if you detect a trend towards that, or if you are the only one around producing a "user friendly" cooking show.

    Do you have a particular subject that is your absolute favorite? From what I've seen, I think you like grilling :-)

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  268. food and memory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's this theory about food and memory that basically says that when you eat, your enjoyment of food is not just based on taste, smell, texture, etc., but also by your previous memories of the food, taste, smell, etc. That's the whole idea behind comfort food: it's not just that it's warm and hearty and tastes good, but's it's comfortable and familiar and reminds you of something like your grandmother's kitchen when you were 5.

    If you believe that theory, you can extend it to vegetarians and their desires for meat substitutes. From my experience, it seems that most vegetarians in the US grew up with meat and consciously became vegetarian (unlike other countries that have often religious traditions of vegetarianism). That means that just like meat eaters, many vegetarians' food memories include meat. B/c they have these food memories, many who become vegetarian for reasons other than simply not enjoying the taste, texture, smell, taste, etc. of meat have good food memories of meat, and associated cravings for meat that can be partially or completely sated with meat substitutes. Hence, the market for things like seitan and tempeh.

    For the record, I'm not vegetarian.

    1. Re:food and memory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      nope.. tempeh has been around for a verry long time... i belive the original poster was talking about the trillion of.. notmeat products that are shaped like meat. like fucking tofo shaped like a turkey. and i personally belive this is marketing for people who are not vego to help them deal with vego's.. ie at adinner party where you have to cater for vegos w/o actually knowing any vego cooking.. (i would argue you dont know how to cook at all, cause vego cooking is by an large a subset of cooking ;)

  269. Entertaining and cooking like a pro... by aion · · Score: 1
    Hi Alton,

    I have three questions for you:

    1) My roommate and I like to hold parties with extensive menus - at least 10 dishes. Although we often begin preparations a week in advance (dipping crystallized ginger in chocolate, making syrups, etc) and try to use simpler recipes (and ones that can be made in advance), we still can't manage to get the food out to our guests on time - it's usually an hour late. Do you have any suggestions on the best method for keeping to a schedule, and any other ways to have a successful dinner party?

    2) I really enjoy cooking, and have often considered leaving the geek life to go to cooking school. However, I am intimidated by the cost of good schools and the hard-boiled description of the chef life from Tony Bourdain's book, Kitchen Confidential. Do you think that cooking for a living would spoil my love for it? What advice can you give someone who wants to better their skills but isn't certain about making the committment to professional chefdom?

    And finally,

    3) How does a person learn how to cut things quickly and precisely (specifically julienning) without slicing themselves up, too?

    Thank you very much. Love the show!!

  270. Re:Campfire Cooking slighlty OT by jimmu · · Score: 1

    After reading this, i recalled an article i had read in outside magazine a few years ago. It had a run down of cool little tools and such to use when cooking on a camping trip, as well was some excellent recipes that one could make while in the backcountry.

    After wasting some valuable work time digging through their website, I found it was the July 1996 issue, and the article can be found here, in the online archives. This is the reason i love the net. I threw these magazines away a long time ago, but i still found the article. Digression aside, its an excellent article, complete with gear to buy, tips for cooking outdoors, and some amazign recipes. The article is from 97, so most of the gear may be out of date, but its still excellent

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  271. Re:Why do cooking books always use the phrase. . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ive always assumed "until done" means... until done. heh, the time required to cook the specific food. hamburgers are done when they have no blood and reach a temp of 160 i think.. so in that case "until done" means internal temp of 160.

  272. Worst mistake by Viking+Coder · · Score: 2

    Alton,

    I love your show, even though I can't cook. Can't. As in "genetically incapable". As an example, I once burned spaghetti noodles. As in, on fire.

    What's the worst mistake you've ever made, in food preparation?

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  273. "Seasoned" pans by K8Fan · · Score: 3, Interesting

    My wife is a wonderful woman, but has a phobia about cast iron pans. I cannot seem to convince her to let a cast iron pan "season" like it is supposed to. I scrub it out with kosher salt as you are supposed to, but she insists on putting that sucker in the sink and scrubbing it with a Brillo pad to get it "clean"...totally ruining the seasoning.

    What can you say to her to convince her that a well-seasoned cast iron frying pan is healthy?

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  274. A question for AB by labnrrd · · Score: 2, Interesting

    OK, my question for you is I want a recipe for pot stickers. I just want a down to earth recipe that doesn't require too many synapses. Thanks.

    Oh yeah, when I saw you on your book tour (the AB North American Tour) I asked you if you knew where you got the spherical molds for the jello eye ball halloween recipe. I was wondering what ever happened there. Anyways, great job on the Book and the Show.

    Rick

  275. How should we share recipes? by freality · · Score: 1

    Hi Alton, first off, Great show!

    Question: How should we share recipes?

    If I have a just excellent Pizza recipe, should I keep it a secret? If I decide to let people eat the pizza, is keeping it secret still ok? What if they want to know if they're allergic to something in it, or they want to know if they like the ingredients...

    I assume it would be best to tell them the ingredients, but then they could just go and make the same great pizza themselves, or maybe improve the recipe, or even tell their friends! Is this OK? How can the food market ever go on if this happens?

    Is there any distinction between sharing a recipe with commercial vs. non-commercial entities? Maybe the commercial people will "take the recipe private", and not "give back to the community" any improvements they make (e.g. like using a different yeast, or the ratio of sauce to cheese).

    Lemme tell ya, if you think we can share, then I think you and Richard Stallman (one of the great software chefs) should get together, because he's having a tough time convincing people of this. I turns out that in the software world, people have a lot of difficulty deciding how best to treat recipes, sharing, and even the resulting meals.. you know, Do you own the meal once you buy it? etc. etc.

    If you could help us out on this, we'd try realllly hard to make better recipe sharing software!

    Cheers!

  276. Emril's show lacks flow , drags, is on too much by mekkab · · Score: 2

    When emeril is "on", he's on. But frequently he drags. The show drags. Its not entertaining.

    The Naked Chef adds storyline- while you may be completely bored with his trip to the shore with his little cousin and annoyed by the video montage of his band playing, he's got something to keep you going.

    Alton has a good mix of vignettes in a quick-cut style.

    But that emeril. Sometimes he says funny things. Sometimes he says the exact same thing in the same way and its just not funny. Look at his sit com. That's why it blew chunks. Oh, and he uses WAY too much fat, butter, and sausage. I mean, it's dessert, for crying out loud!

    Now that, coupled with the fact that he's always on just gets to me. Yep, I like him better than Bobby Flay and Martha, but I think he's over exposed.

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  277. Why always KOSHER SALT? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm a non-practicing Jew, and I notice how you always recommend using Kosher Salt. Is there a particular reason why you recommend Kosher Salt over just generic Salt? My buddies have an ongoing argument over how you may be a hardcore Zionist, and are trying to convert the masses to Kosher foods in order to ensure your place in heaven, kind of like the Jewish version of Jehovah's Witnesses.

    1. Re:Why always KOSHER SALT? by juandosmil · · Score: 1

      I think it's because it's not as fine, so it's easier to pick up, sticks to your hand less, and easier to see how much you're adding. Not that the granularity difference means he can't also be a hardcore Zionist.

    2. Re:Why always KOSHER SALT? by the_greywolf · · Score: 1

      in the pickling episode, he talked about the differences between kosher and other salts and why he uses kosher (but i wasn't paying much attention - i may have missed something)

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  278. my list of plug-n-play foods by Tablizer · · Score: 2

    My list includes:

    Microwave popcorn
    Breakfast cereal
    Applesauce
    Cottage cheese
    Rasberry Yogart
    (Note that the above *dont* necessarily need to be lowfat)
    V8 Juice (original, goes great with popcorn IMO)
    Top Romen
    Instant mashed potatoes
    Ravioli (can)
    Peanut butter & jelly sandwiches (freeze bread or it rots fast)
    Salsa & Chips

    When I was single, I lived off of this stuff and still enjoy it.

    And, it is reasonably nutricious.

  279. [Q] Is that really your house ? by ---- · · Score: 1

    is that really your house?
    And why did you change from the white kitchen (cheery) to the black kitchen (ominous)?
    Where do you get your extras from?
    (Like acidophilous and pal in the Yoghurt episode. Or the high school football jocks in the Fondue episode)
    And do you ever have casting calls for extras? (or is it just all people that you know? staff? friends? etc. I regularlly frequent the Alpharetta Kroger you seem so fond of.)

  280. Tool that should exist but doesn't yet... by juanfe · · Score: 1

    Alton,
    Which would be on the top of your list for the cooking implement that would solve all of your as-of-yet unresolved cooking dilemmas, if only someone were to invent it?

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  281. Re:Emeril's show lacks flow, drags, is on too much by Clock+Nova · · Score: 1

    I agree that he is over exposed. But that is probably not really his doing. He happens to attract a lot of viewers to Food Network, so they run him often. For many people, such as myself, he is what initially attracts them to FNW, giving them a chance to discover the other, wonderful programming that they feature. So don't knock him. He's part of the reason you get to watch "Good Eats."

    And he is not the reason his sitcom failed. Granted, he should have run away from that pitch meeting as if Ronald McDonald himself were trying to sell him a franchise. But the show failed because the writing was TERRIBLE. I mean, some of the worst I have ever heard.

    I think there is enough variety in his show to keep it from being a drag more than occasionally. But, if you really feel that way, the Essence of Emeril is much more laid back and easy to follow. It's a very good show, though it's no "Good Eats."

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  282. Ethnic Foods by lionkaje · · Score: 1

    Which ethnic foods do you: 1. Prefer eating 2. Prefer cooking 3. Think utilize their "food science" the best? Thanks in advance! -kaje PS - PLEASE do an episode featuring Plantains! I grew up in California, and I'm addicted to eggs, plantains and refritos for breakfast. I'd love to learn a few cool ways to cook them!

  283. Malaria medicine, or a lot of NaCl by mekkab · · Score: 2

    A friend of mine told me about the night after drinking like a fish in China, he was BLORTED. (lets just pretend thats a word and move on...)
    So this girl he knows says "Drink this." and its this almost saturated salt and water solution. Its thick and gross, but he downs it.

    A little while later he felt spry and energized.
    She said it was some type of malaria medicine.

    You need to re-hydrate FAST. Salt helps retain water. I like the combination of Excederin (a little caffeine kick to get you going, but unfortunately also a diuretic!), water, and some salty food. Maybe some rice with pork sung!

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  284. get a pressure cooker by gimpboy · · Score: 1

    then you can soak the beans for about 30 min, cook for 20, and then you're done. i have alot of indian friends and they all use pressure cookers.

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  285. Culinary Cartographer vs. Appetitive Artist? by FosterSJC · · Score: 1

    I must confess that I have only leafed through your book at Border's recently. No offense, but I have already spent my cookbook budget on Mario Batali's latest. But from the review and from what I read at the store and seen of your television show, you treat cooking as a science to be mastered by good 'laboratory technique' and scientific method. "With the right tools and a little patience, anyone can turn this wily thistle (artichoke show) into Good Eats," or something to that effect. My question is this: Where does the art of cooking fit in? Is there such a thing in your opinion? Why isn't good cooking mastering the techniques etc, and then allowing the creativity to present itself, if it is there? Are artists the exception and scientists the rule? I am suspicious that behind the matter-of-factness tone of your show, and the any idiot can do it attitude, you have "the touch" for the culinary arts. Aren't you an artist first, and profiting (not in a bad way) from teaching the masses good stick-figure technique? I'm sure by now you get the drift of my question and can respond accordingly. Thanks very much for your patience. -Aaron Foster Annapolis, MD

  286. Excuse me, Mr. Brown by Kaz+Riprock · · Score: 1

    If you did a show on Mexican cuisine, how exactly would you make a Commander Taco?

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  287. Healthy Cooking by BluBall · · Score: 1

    Hi Mr. Brown. I used to enjoy your show before I gave up tv. I still have the early seasons on tape. One thing I noticed is that the show always seemed to disregard conventional thinking about what is healthy (e.g. using fat in cooking). It also seemed to be anti-vegetarian (once there was even a rep from the meat industry talking about all it's benefits). I'd like to explictly get your take on "healthy cooking" and vegetarian cooking. And since heat + food = cooking, what do you think of the raw foods people? One more thing, are there any black people in Georgia? Never even saw one in the background at Kroger's.

  288. Hardest technique? by graybeard · · Score: 2

    When you went to your culinary school, what was the most difficult technique you learnead? Is there an easier way to do it that is "good enough"?

  289. Digital Video Effect on TV by aluminumcube · · Score: 1
    First off, I think Good Eats is an amazing show and I think (read: hope) technology makes more shows like Good Eats possible. That being said, here is my question...

    How do you think digital video and digital cable/satellite will combine to change television?

    I think many will agree that the secret of Good Eats is that is has been driven by a single person's vision (Alton even went to culinary school with the express intent of making this show). When both the cost and process of creating high quality video gets to the point where anybody can do it, and we have 1000 channels of TV to fill, will more individuals step up and bring their passions to TV the same way Alton did?

  290. What NOT to cook?! by Phantom_24 · · Score: 1

    What would you recommend NOT to cook on a first date?!

    1. Re:What NOT to cook?! by Phantom_24 · · Score: 1

      By the way...you are a culinary GOD! OK...maybe not a god....but the best damn cooking show out there. Who knew there would ever be a cooking show for us geeks here at Slashdot!

  291. FoodTv by tombeard · · Score: 1

    So, who would you rather nail^H^H^H^H "Coor With", Sara Moulton or Rachael Ray?

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  292. Gas Grills vs. Charcoal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In your book you state that a gas grill is really just an upside-down gas broiler and not the same as charcoal. However, I've read elsewhere that gas grills aren't the same, because the juices drip down onto lava rocks (or Weber's "Flavorizer Bars") and vaporize, adding a taste that you're not going to get out of a broiler. Is this a significant effect or is charcoal the only way to go?

  293. The "Butter Incident" by jimmcq · · Score: 2

    Question for Alton: Is it really true that you made butter from breast milk?

    No, this isn't some sort of troll... I heard from his own mouth (at the San Jose book signing) that he had tried making butter out of breast milk after his wife had a baby, but I'd like to hear more behind the story

  294. Next Book by Wanker · · Score: 2

    Your current book seems to have a very clear theme aptly described in the sub-title "Food+Heat=Cooking". On the inside it's very well organized along the various lines of applying heat to food, but this leaves out a lot of potential food topics.

    What are your plans for other book themes?

  295. art versus craft versus science the hydra of food by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    while i think that everyone who cooks with any amount of passion or skill realizes that the kitchen is home to all three of these (art/craft/science) i find it hard to place as much weight on the science aspect of cooking as your show seems to stress... is this focus due to personal beliefs or the lack of science as a visible presence in the cooking world... in other words... do you really mean it when you say "Cook it until its done"?

  296. Why does food taste better after smoking pot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Alton,

    It's well known that people get the munchies while stoned, but why is it that marijuana enhances the flavor of foods?

    Also, what is your favorite pot brownie recipe?

    Thanks!
    a pie-eyed fan

  297. Question for AB by CrazySmoove · · Score: 1

    All of my recipes that call for brown sugar ask for packed brown sugar. Is there ever an instance where you would measure out brown sugar and it wouldn't be packed?

  298. Re:Cooking In Lava - Answer: igneous rock by Astrofugue · · Score: 1

    The real reason is that igneous rock is very porous and doesn't conduct heat very well. The lava up against the leaves transfers heat into the hen, leaving a layer of porous, insulating rock which protects the hen from the "real" temperature of the very hot lava. Heat is then transfered slowly to the hen via the cooled, solidified, porous, insulating, damn, I'm out of adjectives, lava.

    BTW, this is also how firewalking is done. Well, one of the theories, anyway. Porous rock is put on coals, sometimes lava, sometimes basalt, etc. The rocks are very hot, but that heat is absorbed into the flesh, callous, whatever. Internal heat takes enough time to reheat the surface that they're able to walk across.

  299. How to learn to cook meat by aphor · · Score: 2

    In America, dinner usually means MEAT. The meal is usually focused on a meat main dish. I have a basic cooking textbook made for use in culinary schools. It has the unflattering (but scientifically accurate) description of the two basic ways to cook meat: with dry or moist heat. The object of dry heat cooking is to cook the meat until it reaches "the desired degree of coagulation," (temperature) and the object of moist heat is to cook "until the connective tissues have sufficiently broken down." Hitting one of those marks will generally mean achieving "good cook" status with your guests. Screwing it up usually means disappointing people.

    What would be the first lesson for any beginner to master as a main meat dish, or what's the easiest way to make sure it's done (but not overdone) when you serve it?

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  300. Thai food by oxfletch · · Score: 1

    So when are you going to do a Thai food episode? You know you want to ....

  301. Good Eats in .au? by Liedra · · Score: 1

    When I heard a coworker of mine in the US talking about this extremely entertaining and intriguing show, I looked through both the local (Sydney) cable and free-to-air TV guides for it and was somewhat disappointed to not see it mentioned anywhere. My coworker very kindly made an mpg of one of the episodes (sorry!) and sent it to me; it was one of the most interesting cooking shows I've ever seen! (It was the Cheesecake ep.).
    I was just wondering if there were any plans to make this show a little more global, as I think the rest of the world is missing out!
    Thanks for being so entertaining :-)

  302. Why Always 350�F? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is there a chemical reason that so many recipes for oven baking call for a temperature of 350F, or is that just a convention?

  303. Congratulations on your success by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have watched your show almost since the beginning and it is only one of two "must see" shows that I have every week. Indulge me if you could, I have several questions.

    What was your favorite food or dish growing up?
    What was the first food or dish you can remember cooking?
    At the beginning of a seemingly successful career, you suddenly quit and head off to cooking school. What was the thought process that went into that?
    How did you arrive at the idea of the show "Good Eats"? Specifically, was it an idea that grew and evolved as time went by, or was it an "aha!" moment?
    I've been cooking my whole life, and I have found that women can occasionally take it as an affront when men seem to know what they are doing in the kitchen. Its rare, but it has happened to me. In your own household, who is the cook the majority of the time - you or your wife? Have you ever found it a touchy point between the two of you?
    I have test dishes that I order the first time I am at a restaurant. I have one for most every genre of cuisine that I frequent. My theory is that I know that dish inside and out, know exactly how it should be cooked, and can best judge a new restaurant by that method. They pass that test, I order new things! This longwinded question is my way of asking if you have a set of dishes that you consistently order when you dine out?

    Thanks for taking the time and sharing the info!

  304. The poll said it best... by WebMasterJoe · · Score: 2

    Who?
    What?
    When?
    Where?
    Why?
    How?
    Favorite Question?
    What would CowboyNeal Do?

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  305. Weird food. by matman · · Score: 2

    What are the wierdest things that you've eaten? Did you enjoy them? If you were to eat them again, what ideas for preparation do you have?

    Thanks for the show, the book, and all of the hard work that you've put into both. You've helped my interest in cooking and food science to grow. :)

  306. Hmmm... by geekindustries · · Score: 1

    My question to Alton would have to be about dorm room food. Do you have any interesting ideas or tips? Everyone has their own spin on "1001 ways to cook Raman Noodles." How about you add your unique spin on the old favorite? Or, better yet, a totally new idea on dorm room food. It needs to be simple, fast, inexpensive, and (atleast) somewhat edible. :)

    I know what we really need, an Alton Brown Recipe Database. Then we could search by what we have in the ol' ice box and find a suitable recipe with that great Alton flair! A novel idea, but one can always dream. Anyway, keep cookin' Alton!

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  307. Carrot Juice Is Murder! Just ask tool by DansnBear · · Score: 1

    From the 69th track of undertow:
    And I begged,
    "Angel of the Lord, what are these tortured screams?"
    And the angel said unto me,
    "These are the cries of the carrots, the cries of the carrots!
    You see, Reverend Maynard, tomorrow is harvest day and to them it is the holocaust."
    And I sprang from my slumber drenched in sweat like the tears of one million terrified brothers and roared,
    "Hear me now, I have seen the light!
    They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul!
    Damn you!
    Let the rabbits wear glasses!
    Save our brothers!"
    Can I get an amen?
    Can I get a hallelujah?
    Thank you Jesus.
    Life feeds on life feeds on life feeds on life feeds on........

    This is necessary.

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  308. college food by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What can you recommend for a student that has nothing more than a simple stove and a microwave?

  309. illogical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    shutting tables

  310. Chili does NOT have beans by oneiros27 · · Score: 2

    I know that most of the chili cook offs that I've seen, there are no beans allowed.

    Oh, and as my mom's placed first a few times at some local contents, I'll give you all a little secret -- alcohol helps to meld the flavors faster, for those times when you don't have a week to let it sit in the fridge. Add a beer into your next 2 gallons of chilli. [As you're putting it in a slow cooker, you might want to back off whatever other liquids you're using, to make sure you cook off the alcohol].

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  311. Know when to use fast/slow cooking. by oneiros27 · · Score: 2

    After all, there are some things that benefit from a slow cooking time. Scrambled eggs are one of the best examples -- a nice, slow cook in a slightly warmed cast iron skillet will give you some of the creamest eggs you've ever had. After watching the smoked salmon episode of Good Eats, I wouldn't be suprised if AB had tried cooking eggs with a hair dryer.

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  312. Sea Water? I'm from Nebraska by lsommerer · · Score: 1

    Even if this doesn't make it to the interview, I need to know the answer from somebody.

    When Alton boils something in salted water, he says, "I believe that the amount of salt should be a function of the water. Put in enough to make it taste like sea water." Well, I live in Nebraska and don't have any idea what sea water tastes like. Can anyone tell me how much to put in a cup of water to get an idea?

    Thanks!

  313. What hardware do you suggest for minimalists? by oneiros27 · · Score: 2

    Well, okay, I guess 'minimalist's not quite the right word, but they limit the subject length here.

    I know in the back of your book, you recommend certain tools and equiptment for cooks, however, many of the people here are apartment dwellers, or might even be in a college dorm with a shared kitchen, where they don't have much space for storage, or they move on a regular basis, making that cast iron set a royal pain.

    Besides the obvious needs for a decent pot for boiling pasta/potatoes/whatever, and a good pan for sauteing/pan frying, what would you insist on having around, if you were in that situation?

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  314. Appitizer+Salad+Entree+Desert=Dinner ? by DrEvil-47 · · Score: 1

    Mr Brown, I consider myself a reasonably competent cook, not good or great, my question is how to set a dinner menu. Ahem: How does one set a menu so that the food seems to go together ? For example, are there some rules of thumb or reference works about what sort of appitizer should be served with a certain entree etc ? What deserts should you serve to hightlight a memory of the salad ? The Doctor. The Doctor.

  315. If you, Gomez Addams, Steve Irwin, and... by Dr.+Dumb · · Score: 1

    ...Teddy Roosevelt were all trapped on a desert island with only a pound of fresh sage, three stalks of dill, some kosher salt, and a bag of chunk charcoal, who would get eaten first and justify your answer in terms of seasonings.

  316. Secret Identity of "W" by SRain315 · · Score: 1

    My wife and I continue to be curious about "W," Good Eats' cooking device maven. Most of your guests are identified, but she remains strangely anonymous. Could it be that "W" stands for "wife"?

    Oops, I zagged when I should have .sigged.

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    1. Re:Secret Identity of "W" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      According to Alton (from a book signing), W is a chiropractor by trade. She auditioned for the role and he thinks she hates him... in other words, she behaves towards him like that in real life too. It's not an act! Scary, huh. He made a crack about how offscreen she's basically like: "fine, where's my paycheck?"

  317. The Book and How it Happened by janejane · · Score: 1

    Hi Alton- Kudos on the book! How did you like the process of writing your own book? How involved were you in the design process? When is the next one coming out? And hey, how about them salt cellars? Thanks for giving me something to think about every time I watch your show! Jane

  318. What's that long thing knife you use? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously, what is it? I've seen you use it for everything from carving lamb to slicing cheesecake on your show? And where can I get one?
    Thanks

  319. Re:Why do cooking books always use the phrase. . . by gleam · · Score: 2

    i can't speak about scrambled eggs, but regarding meat, here are two suggestions:

    1) use a meat thermometer. seriously. or, even better, a probe thermometer that you can keep outside of your oven/grill/broiler

    2) learn what a piece of meat cooked to your ideal temperature feels like to the touch.. cook a steak to medium rare and touch the top-center.. remember the way it feels, and then the next time you cook, just touch it every now and then until it "feels" right. It works wonders.

    a few other things:

    it's very difficult for a cookbook to give precise times involving meats, or anything else really, because there's so much variation. Your burger may be 7 ounces instead of 5, and 1" thick instead of 3/4" thick. All those possible variations lead to huge difficulties in setting a precise time.

    Also remember that, unless you're using a gas grill/broiler/whatever, there's going to be some noticeable variation in the temperature of your cooker. If you use normal charcoal briqs, your grill will not burn anywhere near as hot as if you use hardwood charcoal.

    One final pair of tips: cook your meat to about 5 degrees cooler than you actually want it, and let it sit off the heat for 5 minutes before you serve it. In those 5 minutes you'll achieve two things: the temperature of the meat will rise about one degree each minute, cooking it to perfection, and the juices inside the meat will have time to settle, so when you cut into the meat they won't pour out all over your plate. You'll end up with a perfect, juicy piece of beef, or lamb, or whatever.

    -gleam

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  320. yes, cellulose is a type of dietary fiber. by cpeterso · · Score: 2



    High Fiber Diet :

    Dietary fiber is the part of a plant that provides and maintains the plant's structure. Cellulose, hemicellulose, polysaccharides, pectins, gums, mucilages, and lignins are dietary fibers. These fibers are unrelated chemically, however, they all have one thing in common -- they can't be digested by the human body. For this reason, they can help correct disorders of the large intestine (colon), and keep it functioning normally. Therefore, it is important to increase the amount of fiber in the diet.

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  326. What about knives? by jrcool · · Score: 1

    I'd like to know about knives--I'm getting to the time in my life when I want good ones that will last me forever, and I'm not (too) afraid to pay for them. So, really, I have several questions, but there is a definite theme...

    If money were truly no object, what, in your opinion, are the best knives out there? If money is kind of an object, what knives are the best value? In other words, at what point do you sacrifice quality? If your advice recommends something expensive, what would you recommend as a basic set? (What are the three most important? Five? Eight? Ten? Wedding registry?) Please help!!

  327. Opinions on geek following by jearbear · · Score: 1

    In your blog, you sound continually suprised at the huge turnouts at your book signings. Given how you approach the show, did you in anyway anticipate the following you'd get - particularly the (food)geek following? What do you think of your popularity in the geek community?

  328. Have to ask this.... by geekwife · · Score: 1

    I actually have been wanting to ask this question since I started watching Good Eats.... Do you deliberately cultivate your resemblance to Thomas Dolby? I keep waiting to hear someone in the background yelling "Science!" Love your show, and grabbed your book the day I found out about it. And then had to steal it back from my husband, who wanted to read it first. ;}

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  329. The Secret by DJerman · · Score: 2
    The Sovereign Secret to Good Gravy is: make your roux away from the juices.

    The roux has to have fat coating and insulating the flour grains from each other, otherwise you get paste. You need about equal volumes of flour and fat. The flour will go to gelatine as soon as it encounters water so you need to use one of 3 methods:

    1) mash flour and butter (in equal parts) together an d add lumps of this mixture to the hot juices. The butter will do the job for the flour and you get a thickening sauce. Nice for blonde gravies for fish and poultry.

    2) pan-cook your roux with oil or butter before you roast. This way you can control the color of the gravy and the flavor, by toasting the flour to a darker color. If you use butter in this method, you need to wait till it stops bubbling before adding the flour (this is the water cooking off -- it'll go lumpy if you rush it).

    3) skim some fat from the juices and make the roux -- this is what you're trying to do but I'm betting that you don't have enough fat, or you have too much watery liquid. So skim the fat, mix fat and flour (in another pan or the same one) and add back to the juice. This gets the most authentic flavor, but taste first -- if the fat got too hot it can be a bit acrid, in which case fall back to the other methods.

    In any case, you must then cook the sauce to a boil, to bloom your flour. It should get thick enough to stick to a spoon, and will thicken more as it cools. If it's not thick enough, more roux is needed. The darker the roux, the more you will need.

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  330. Take back your karma point by xant · · Score: 1

    I shouldn't be getting karma for making fun of people. I don't need your point anyway. I've been pegged at 50 for months now.

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  331. Plants feeling pain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, plants *do* feel pain.

    When you stress a plant through damage or sudden change to it's environment (flame, etc) they send out chemical triggers, both through their system and into the air. The ones sent into their system trigger defence mechanisms (Some trees can release a toxin into their leaves when they detect that they're being grazed upon, some can curl up their leaves, etc) the chemicals released into the air are warning other plants in the area that one of these stresses is occuring, and triggers the same response in them as well. Essentially, it's screaming in pain using a language of chemical compounds instead of vibrating air molocules.

  332. .com/.bomb culinary solutions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    OK, let's say you had some dime packages of ramen. What would you do with them to make it seem like you're not eating the same thing over & over again? Hints/tips about different sauces, added ingredients, and/or cooking techniques would be helpful. (This is also helpful to the College dorm crowd).

    1. Re:.com/.bomb culinary solutions by Kredal · · Score: 2

      I realize I'm not a master chef (or even a really decent cook).. but here's what I do with Ramen noodles...

      I heat the water in a large bowl in the microwave (a coffee maker with no filters or grounds or anything would work too).

      I open up a bag of noodles, and take out the seasoning packet, then crunch up the noodles in the bag, and pour the little baby noodles into the bowl of hot water.

      Add 1 or 2 slices of preprocessed cheese, by tearing up the slices and dropping them into the bowl (I prefer Kraft American and Swiss cheese, but go with what you like).

      Cover the bowl to keep steam from escaping too much (I use a DVD case, since I have lots and lots of them next to my computer where I eat)... let it sit for a few minutes until the cheese is good and melted and the noodles are soaked thrhough. Then add the seasoning packet, and a few drops (or a lot of drops) of tabasco, stir well, and enjoy!

      The cheese makes it into a nice and creamy soup, instead of flavored water with noodles. (:

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  333. Not so much a cooking question as an ambience one- by SamTheButcher · · Score: 1

    I love cooking, and I love having music on when I cook. (For me and many people here on /. you could substitute the word "code" for "cook") I saw in one of your online chats a discussion about Steeley Dan. Without getting into my personal feelings about said band, I'll ask if you like to listen to music while cooking/entertaining, and if so, what bands/songs/genres do you usually pull up in iTunes to entertain yourself and your guests?

  334. Name that tune by PingPongDingDong · · Score: 1

    Who came up with that simple, yet mesmerizing, jingle. My kids have a Pavlovian response to come to the room when they hear it. Then again, so do I.

  335. Milk and Pizza by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why is it that milk goes so well with pizza or pasta?

  336. What is your opinion.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    About the various diets out there. Including the Atkinds, Zone, etc. Do you cook to follow any of that stuff, do you work out, how do you keep healthy with all that good food?

  337. What is a non-threating way to get into cooking? by MisterMartin · · Score: 1

    As an avid cook (I'm going to need a storage locker for all my cookbooks soon), I'd love to be able to turn my friends on to cooking. All my non-cooking friends say they want to learn how to cook well, but that it's just too hard, and the obvious sources for learning how to cook (TV shows, cook books) are no help.
    Based on their comments and observations of my own, I'd say that the popular cookbooks and TV shows are no help because they're incredibly intimidating. They fall into one of:

    1) The "authenticity at all costs" camp -- obscure/expensive ingredients that no one could ever find or afford, or incredibly involved "the only way to do it" recipes (ever seen Julia Child's recipe for French bread?)
    2) The "cooking as event" camp -- presentation and theater are king. Can you say Emiril?
    3) The "insanely narrowly focused" camp -- all Italian food (for example) all the time. Great, but how do I boil water, much less make a sublime saltimboca?

    What suggestions would you have for somebody who wants eventually to cook like the pros, but needs to start at the ground floor?

  338. Amber waves of grain Home brew beer? by Brett+Viren · · Score: 1

    When will you have the Amber Waves of Grain show?
    You need to kick "The Thirsty Traveler" off !!!

  339. Most. Expensive. Ever? by Brett+Viren · · Score: 1

    What is the most expensive meal you did on TV, not
    including the travel, just ingredients?

  340. Re:Suggest a good recipe using an all beef hot dog by Anjin · · Score: 1

    Take 2 nails, solder to line cord with a wall plug. Each nail should be attached to each side of the line cord. Now, press one nail into each end of the hotdog, plug line cord into wall.

    Note the sequence. Insert nails into hotdog, then plug in. If your so supid you plug it in first, then insert into the hotdog... well, you deserve what you get...

  341. Are you flabbergasted? by Byteme · · Score: 1

    Surprising? Obvious? Predictable?

    I guess I am a moron for not figuring it out.

    I do take great pleasure in cooking, but for me it is all about the food. Maybe I just don't agree with Alton Brown's approach. Maybe I just don't like most of the crap on foodtv.com/network (except for the Iron Chef, that is a great show - Emeril is annoying, though I have eaten at his place in Nawlins). The intent of my post was to reveal Bourdain's book as a better read... It seems like it would be more appealing to the slashdot audience. It is like comparing Bill Nye the Science Guy to Bucky Fuller. Both have geek appeal, but one clearly has more going on. Alton has a web site, so I guess he wins. Oh, well. I wonder if he will address a question about someone else's book?

    On the subject of 'fat', Boudain does mention it - I didn't take it as over the top as you did, it was hyperbole. The 'secret' ingredients - butter, shallots and garlic. If you want rich foods you could use those in everything... same could be said of cream, capers and anchovies. Boudain did make it a point to adress butter, but he was seemed to express disdain for the 'fat free' butter alternatives. He was pretty hard on vegans also, stating that every vegan he met got sick when they thought about getting the cold.

    That all being said, I don't see what is so great about fois gras either. phhhfft

    1. Re:Are you flabbergasted? by Buck2 · · Score: 1

      I guess I am a moron for not figuring it out.

      That's not what I intended. I just wanted to try and answer the question so that it wouldn't be asked of Alton Brown, since, for me, it seems that the answer would be predictable.

      I wasn't implying anything about you.

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  342. age old question.. by geekoid · · Score: 2

    ..why do men crave ceral at midnight?

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  343. Overclock your machine... by TibbonZero · · Score: 2

    Overclock your machine, and put the heating/cooling induction piping into the top surface of your case... Then, fry an egg with your Athalon 1.2@2.4...

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  344. Science and Cooking by iCharles · · Score: 2

    Most cooking shows don't nearly go as much into the science of cooking as your show does. I dare say I've learned more chemestery and physics in your show then in college or high school. Do you feel it is because the chefs don't know/understnad the science, don't want to diminish the "art" with the science, or don't think their audience is interested/capable of understanding the underlying science?

  345. Re:Economy Geek Food (Bolognese sauce) by Aurania · · Score: 1
    Servings: 4-6

    Ingredients:

    1 28 oz jar of Barilla Pasta sauce, you pick but it should be a red sauce
    1 lb of ground beef (or turkey, or chicken but ground beef is the cheapest)

    6-8 oz (1/2 bag) frozen chopped onions
    8 oz (1/2 bag) frozen diced or sliced carrots
    1 tsp chopped garlic from a jar
    1 Tbs olive oil
    Salt, pepper to taste (start with 1/2 tsp salt, 1/4 tsp pepper)
    1/2 tsp paprika

    Instructions:

    Brown the ground beef. Drain any fat from the pan. Season with salt, pepper and paprika. Move the meat to a plate or bowl.

    Place the frozen onions and carrots in the pan and saute until the melt water is about gone. Add the olive oil and garlic and saute on medium heat until the onions are translucent.

    Add the meat back into the pan. Add the jar of pasta sauce. Simmer for 30 mins.

    Serve over spaghetti, spirals, or your favorite pasta shape.

    Comments:

    The sauce keeps but you should only cook as much pasta as you need for a meal.

    You can easily double or triple the recipe but you may have to brown the meat in batches depending on the size of your pan. Same goes with the frozen veggies.

    Frozen veggies are great since they keep. You can use whatever combination of frozen veggies that you like. Carrots and onions are classic for bolognese.

    I love having a jar of chopped garlic in the fridge. It keeps so much better than fresh garlic and you don't have to do all the work to chop it.

  346. Frying Machine by abesottedphoenix · · Score: 1

    My boyfriend likes fried foods a bunch. We've watched the show where you bought the little frying machine a couple of times now. I've slaved in a restaurant before, and in my time was able to cook up some nice calamari. For most appliances, I think that specialized commercial versions to be placed in a house is plain silly conspicuous consumption. However, if I had that piece of machinery in my house, I truly think that I'd fry more often. What is the best kind of commercial fryer that you've used?

    Thanks!

  347. First of three questions by felicity · · Score: 1

    Alton, love the show, love the book -- keep on rockin!

    First question:
    There are several people on FN which have multiple shows (Emeril, Flay, and Rachel Ray come to mind immediately). Has there been any discussions about a second AB show?

  348. Second question of three by felicity · · Score: 1

    People on FN tend to have a "day job", seemingly any of: being a chef, running a kitchen/restaurant (which Tony Bourdain said on a recent "A Cook's Tour" is the majority of a chef's job), etc. What do you do for a "day job" when not working on Good Eats? I know of Be Square Productions; what do you folks do/work on there? Do you work outside of TV?

  349. Third question of three by felicity · · Score: 1

    I'm currently working in the IT industry, and have a fairly decent job at the moment. However, I find myself interested in cooking more and more, even entertaining the notion of a career change. I'm not sure if it will ever happen, but I should have a plan if my current job disappears, right?

    So here's the question (it's actually two questions, but they're fairly related): What advice would you give to a person who wants to become a chef as a career choice?

    Related to that question: what advice would you give a person who wants to become a better chef personally, short of changing careers? Watching cooking-related TV shows and reading books (including yours of course) only gets a person so far. For instance, how useful are things like the FCI's Amateur courses? (The FCI webpage for those interested...)

    Thanks AB! :)

  350. Healthy food that tastes good, does it exist? by Aurania · · Score: 1
    Is there such a thing as healthy food (say, less than 30% of the calories from fat) that tastes good?

    I know lower fat substitutions in recipes can change the food chemistry. One of my favorite substitutions is evaporated whole milk (never tried using evaporated skim, I have a bad feeling about that) for cream in recipes. Am I really reducing the amout of fat?

    What's your feeling on: reduced fat mayo, cheeses, salad dressing?

    Do you have any other suggestions for lower fat substitutions?

  351. Re: taping on TiVo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How can you "tape" using a TiVo? It contains no tape, only disk.