What do commerical distributers know? It's like asking as record lable rep about the future of music.. Anything they say is bound to be wrong..
I mean, all due credit to Red Hat and company, they're importand to 'the cause', but as I see it, there only real qualification is they figured out how to make money off something that's free..
Admititly, they have some infulence, but last time I checked, most the the 'guts' where still being written by outsiders, with thses groups working on things like install programs, package managers and general newbification.
What to know the future? Talk to some of those tricky hardware designers out in the pacific or find a kernel geek who can code good english.. Or read freshmeat.
No one is an expert, or really even has a clue about relationships, but most of us figure it out in the end.. Relax, do whatever you feel like, it'll work out.. Don't over think things.. Appearance counts, how much is up to you..
And now do be critical. The article was terribly written and totally offensive.. Slashdot would be wise to stay away from this junk IMO.. Lets stick to what we know.. What's next, roblimos fashion tips? No thanks..
I can just see the next 'shashdot as new media outlit' article.. "Self described nerds, with articles on topics from Bewolf to How to Get A Girlfriend."
Everyone knows computer skills are inversely propotional to mating skills, right?
It's one of the oldest search engines, and still the one I use most often.. As long as they don't mess with that, I don't care what else the put in.. Personally, I didn't even notice the change as I use the nice stripped text mode.
Gotta keep the money people happy, and portals are the thing right now.. Portals might be useless to your average slashdotter, but way back when, I bet you used something pretty portal-like as a homepage at one point in your early days on the web.. Personally, it was the NIN homepage back when I had to telnet to a freenet to get at Lynx... People outgrow it, but you can make some money off their eyeballs before they do..
Man that Jane's IT quiz banner flashy and annoying..
That's it exactly.. It's not as simple as just picking 'Tall, Athletic, 180 IQ'.. It's gonna be Tall, Athletic, 180 IQ, crazy as hell with ISSUES..
Besides, since when did being natually smart have that much to do with success.. Who's the most powerful person you know (academics don't count)? Bet you did better then them on the SATs (slashdot=nerds)..
Same with athletics, but as that's directly competive, it would be even worse.. If every kid in school is Joe Montana, who plays quarterback?
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Microsoft sees Linux as competition, but the reverse doesn't need to be true.. Linux doesn't need market share or marketing.. That's all money stuff, and linux doesn't care about that right?
What ever happened to Linux being 'our' OS. It does what we need, and if we need more, we'll add that.. If you can figure out a way to make a living supporting it, great..
How is getting every user and journalist to install going to help anything? Great, more clueless people to support.. Those with clues will find linux when they come to need it, and hopefully become useful community members, not just whiney twits..
Let MS take all the market share they want.. Ask anyone who's worked tech support how great that share is..
The UK/ECC is where I plan to end up after I eject from Ottawa.. The Neatherlands probably, or Ireland.. Luckly I have an Irish passport out of one of my parents, so immigrating to anywhere in the ECC is reliativly easy..
Amsterdam is like Las Vegas for stoners, and has a raging newmedia industry to boot.. A little more school, and I'm off.. Last time I was there I was tempted to just drop out now and start selling DSL to all the internet cafes..
18,000 feet covers alot of ground in the old world.. One NOC in downtown amsterdam would have no problems making money off all the bars/cafes inside loop range..
Not to mention, normal old unix admins are seriously in demand, speaking dutch totally not required..
I don't know about that your parents specific case, but generally, waiting time is inverse of urgengy.. If you're dieing, it's straight into the ER, if you've got a cold, you get to wait until all the people in the ER are good and alive again..
Northern Quebec is probably about as bad as it gets.. It's basically the Canadian version of the deep south..
If all the republicans would just shoot each other, you'd have healthcare inside a month..
The rest of the first world laughs it smug ass off at the big ol' US.. "How can they call it a civilized nation if you can die on the street because you can't afford a doctor.." is the general comment.. Seems like a valid point to me..
The US of A: Booming economy, goverments books in pretty good shape, world strong superpower, and its poor dieing on the steets every day, how nice..
Move to Canada, never worry about health care again... Smokes are 4 bucks a pack, heart transplants are free..
As an added bonus, moving to say Toronto or Ottawa, you get cheap DSL or cable modems, and pretty good cable TV (59 channels 30 bucks)..
There is also that whole clean, polite, non-gun carryingness thing... I live in city with over a million people, (Ottawa) there is about 3 murders a year and maybe 5 non-domestic violent crimes.. I like them odds..
Downsides would definitly be the weather (compaired to Silicon Vally) and the taxes.. Vancouver gets you out of the snow, but you get rain instead.. Taxes are what they are, take it or leave it I guess..
Don't want to start a Canada rules/sucks thread, but if I was a self employed geek in the US, I'd at least figure out what it would cost me tax wise if I relocated north..
One other perk, no drug tests..:) Great green north and all that..
It's interesting how pro-Cassini people are here.. I guess after the fact, that's pretty safe position..
Yes, orbits works good, physics work good, but computers work bad, people make mistakes, shit happens..
It all worked fine this time, and next time, and so on, until time number five thousand there is bug, a burn jams and pow... You dom't get alot of pows before things start to get pretty bad down here at Humans Inc..
The money on Cassini is nothing compaired to say, Apollo 13, and look what happened there.. Things break, it happens..
Of course something like Cassini is a million times safer and more sane then all those atomic weapons and power plants, but still just not a good idea..
This stuff is too dangerous, find another way... Just say no to nuclear power, any kind, any where.. If you can mine the resources outside of earth orbit, and use them there, fine, but keep that shit away from my(our) bioshphere.. It's about as safe as powering equiment with anthrax..
> The question is, after virii and nanobots, what > will be the next technology that could save or > damn us all? How many bullets can we dodge?
If we ever get nano up to full on fiction levels, it'd be a hell of a contender for 'ultimate technolgy'...
Self repilcating nanocommunites controlled by inbody neural overlays.. God like powers for you and for me..
Think, looking at a spare tire, let some nano crawl off you onto it, ponder a little, and turning it into new living breathing(optional) family pet..
Don't feel like being a pale 200 pound nerd today? Turn yourself into a spider monkey in the shower before work...
Lots of evil stuff too, but you could always rely on your nano to put you back together afterwards..
200 years or so seems like long enough at the current rate of progress.. Only limites are what a ol' mind can take before going good and insane..
Degressing now..
Living space is going to be the problem here.. Nano is great, isn't real good at making thrust for outerspace fun and games.. Maybe somekind of giant biomechanical gas factory or something.. Farting your way along, so to speak..
On the other hand, gray goo is great for turning astroids into condos.
I'm just crossing my fingers hoping that nano/virus technolgy keeps advancing faster then my personal rate of decay... Might yet make it into the last generation.. No limits on keeping you alive with that kind of technology, just on keeping you sane..
I say, damn the torpedos, lets get on with it, I'll take my chances with the goo..
Go read books like Steel Beach, Blood Music and Diamond Age.. And those where written before they knew about bunky balls..
Quit whining.. If any other OS manufacture had done this (I assume some have) it would be smiles all around..
But when MS does it, it's an evil plot to get data for the FBI and market to everything... I'm sure the NSA and DOD have already setup dummy servers to do that sort of thing ages ago and MS has plenty of marketing databases as it is.. One more isn't going to violate you any worse..
I mean, dislike the MS empire as much as the next guy, but I mean, yack..
I'm thinking it won't be cracked.. The admins are probably too on the ball (they wrote the thing) and it's pretty hard to develop a real bug attack without having the OS on a local box to play with.
After they release it on the other hand, I'm sure it'll fall like everything else..
That's how I do it.. IPChains and Socks5.. ICQ messages, chat and transfers work through socks with no problems.
However, I have yet to find a windows IRC client with complete SOCKS5 support.. I can get everything BUT outgoing DCC to work with just IPChains.
Frequently, the problem with IRC clients and NAT isn't the NAT itself, but the way the client figures out the local IP. If it uses the IP of the local machine, any direct connections are toast... Most clients (like mIRC) let you either manually specify an IP (a pain under DHCP) or can get it back from the IRC server after you connect.
Quake 2, Ultima Online and any other game I've tried have worked fine with just IPChains, but SOCKSCap is always an option for really wierd things.
Maybe they find come up with some neat ideas and make some money, maybe they toss it all in the shredder... Either way, no more legal hassles, fhew..
Both companies are very legally sensitive with tech stocks the way they are..
I'm thinking SGI could make anything nVidia does make if they put their mind to it.. After all, video cards aren't really that high tech.. Hire a pile of engineers, use the fastest chips available, done deal... What makes a nVidia or 3dfx is marketing and managment skill/luck..
Sounds like a good way to make people more interested sub-atomic physics to me..
'There is a small possibility we'll destory the earth in the blink of an eye.' makes for a pretty amazing press release... The fact that it's technically true makes it even better.
I often wonder why they don't take a 'lead into gold' angle with this stuff.. It's 'possible' isn't it? Bet you'd get some funding for your behind then..
Internet capable phones where all over the place when I was in Amsterdam.
They used a large LCD tilted landscape style and cost a fortune to use.. Looked like some kind of customm OS deal to me, but I didn't actually use one.
I'm all for this kind of stuff.. I'll never use it, but when I do, it will be a life saver. And the anonymous aspect is nice too.
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All this is why I am no longer a comp-sci major, but a communications major..
Fuck 8am till forever.. Marketing does 10am till 5pm, and usually takes a 2 hour lunch.. Not to mention the freebie and travel perks.
And, as the only unix ninja in the marketing camp, half the time my job boils down to doing little computer things IT should be doing.. Who wants to fill out paperwork when the guy in the next cube can do in 30 seconds? Not to mention, "You an't fire/transfer him, he unscrews up my laptop when it goes nuts.."
My advice for young people.. Learn to make PCs work on your own time, take something marketing friendly in school.. The starting pay isn't as good, but the stress and personal commitment is *so* much lower, and advancement is easier to comeby if your into it.. Then again, I'm 23..
Do you know any sysadmins that have switched to NT from Linux(or anything else for that matter) of their own free will? I don't.
People only use NT because their either afraid of Linux (no crime there) or pointy heads make them.
Maybe my impressions are wrong, but so far, everything I've seen and done indicated that once you've gone over to *nix, you never want to go back..
Not to mention the other(more common) end of the spectrum. I'd like to see some benchmarks for P133's with 64 megs of RAM, or 486-66s for that matter..
My little server is a cyrix 166 with 32 megs, and I only upgraded it from a 486-66 because I wanted to play mp3s...
Ottawa sweet Ottawa.. I swear, I think we might be the most 'consumer' wired town in the world. Last I counted, it is possible to get three different flavors of DSL depending on your location and willingness to pay, and @home at cheaper then US prices.
For $70CND a month, I get 2.2mb/1.1mb ADSL, with a real static IP, because I signed up before the Nortel 1meg came on the scene. If I lived just on the other side the canal, I could get in on the VDSL trial and get 8.8mb(or something insane like that) for the same price.. If all that in unavilable, Nortel 1 Meg is available everywhere for $50, or @home for $40.
And man-oh-man do I ever get my milage out of that 1.1mb backchannel..:)
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What do commerical distributers know? It's like asking as record lable rep about the future of music.. Anything they say is bound to be wrong..
I mean, all due credit to Red Hat and company, they're importand to 'the cause', but as I see it, there only real qualification is they figured out how to make money off something that's free..
Admititly, they have some infulence, but last time I checked, most the the 'guts' where still being written by outsiders, with thses groups working on things like install programs, package managers and general newbification.
What to know the future? Talk to some of those tricky hardware designers out in the pacific or find a kernel geek who can code good english..
Or read freshmeat.
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If you find someone, don't write about it.
No one is an expert, or really even has a clue about relationships, but most of us figure it out in the end.. Relax, do whatever you feel like, it'll work out.. Don't over think things.. Appearance counts, how much is up to you..
And now do be critical.
The article was terribly written and totally offensive.. Slashdot would be wise to stay away from this junk IMO.. Lets stick to what we know..
What's next, roblimos fashion tips? No thanks..
I can just see the next 'shashdot as new media outlit' article..
"Self described nerds, with articles on topics from Bewolf to How to Get A Girlfriend."
Everyone knows computer skills are inversely propotional to mating skills, right?
It's one of the oldest search engines, and still the one I use most often.. As long as they don't mess with that, I don't care what else the put in.. Personally, I didn't even notice the change as I use the nice stripped text mode.
Gotta keep the money people happy, and portals are the thing right now.. Portals might be useless to your average slashdotter, but way back when, I bet you used something pretty portal-like as a homepage at one point in your early days on the web.. Personally, it was the NIN homepage back when I had to telnet to a freenet to get at Lynx... People outgrow it, but you can make some money off their eyeballs before they do..
Man that Jane's IT quiz banner flashy and annoying..
That's it exactly.. It's not as simple as just picking 'Tall, Athletic, 180 IQ'.. It's gonna be Tall, Athletic, 180 IQ, crazy as hell with ISSUES..
Besides, since when did being natually smart have that much to do with success.. Who's the most powerful person you know (academics don't count)? Bet you did better then them on the SATs (slashdot=nerds)..
Same with athletics, but as that's directly competive, it would be even worse.. If every kid in school is Joe Montana, who plays quarterback?
Gray Says: Want happy kids? Breed 'em good looking and stupid...
Big IMO over whole message.
Microsoft sees Linux as competition, but the reverse doesn't need to be true.. Linux doesn't need market share or marketing.. That's all money stuff, and linux doesn't care about that right?
What ever happened to Linux being 'our' OS. It does what we need, and if we need more, we'll add that.. If you can figure out a way to make a living supporting it, great..
How is getting every user and journalist to install going to help anything? Great, more clueless people to support.. Those with clues will find linux when they come to need it, and hopefully become useful community members, not just whiney twits..
Let MS take all the market share they want.. Ask anyone who's worked tech support how great that share is..
The UK/ECC is where I plan to end up after I eject from Ottawa.. The Neatherlands probably, or Ireland.. Luckly I have an Irish passport out of one of my parents, so immigrating to anywhere in the ECC is reliativly easy..
Amsterdam is like Las Vegas for stoners, and has a raging newmedia industry to boot.. A little more school, and I'm off.. Last time I was there I was tempted to just drop out now and start selling DSL to all the internet cafes..
18,000 feet covers alot of ground in the old world.. One NOC in downtown amsterdam would have no problems making money off all the bars/cafes inside loop range..
Not to mention, normal old unix admins are seriously in demand, speaking dutch totally not required..
I don't know about that your parents specific case, but generally, waiting time is inverse of urgengy.. If you're dieing, it's straight into the ER, if you've got a cold, you get to wait until all the people in the ER are good and alive again..
Northern Quebec is probably about as bad as it gets.. It's basically the Canadian version of the deep south..
Ha ha.. Okay, the sun can stay, but only until we find some kind of granola powered source of all life..
If all the republicans would just shoot each other, you'd have healthcare inside a month..
The rest of the first world laughs it smug ass off at the big ol' US.. "How can they call it a civilized nation if you can die on the street because you can't afford a doctor.." is the general comment.. Seems like a valid point to me..
The US of A: Booming economy, goverments books in pretty good shape, world strong superpower, and its poor dieing on the steets every day, how nice..
Move to Canada, never worry about health care again... Smokes are 4 bucks a pack, heart transplants are free..
:)
As an added bonus, moving to say Toronto or Ottawa, you get cheap DSL or cable modems, and pretty good cable TV (59 channels 30 bucks)..
There is also that whole clean, polite, non-gun carryingness thing... I live in city with over a million people, (Ottawa) there is about 3 murders a year and maybe 5 non-domestic violent crimes.. I like them odds..
Downsides would definitly be the weather (compaired to Silicon Vally) and the taxes..
Vancouver gets you out of the snow, but you get rain instead.. Taxes are what they are, take it or leave it I guess..
Don't want to start a Canada rules/sucks thread, but if I was a self employed geek in the US, I'd at least figure out what it would cost me tax wise if I relocated north..
One other perk, no drug tests..
Great green north and all that..
It's interesting how pro-Cassini people are here..
I guess after the fact, that's pretty safe position..
Yes, orbits works good, physics work good, but computers work bad, people make mistakes, shit happens..
It all worked fine this time, and next time, and so on, until time number five thousand there is bug, a burn jams and pow... You dom't get alot of pows before things start to get pretty bad down here at Humans Inc..
The money on Cassini is nothing compaired to say, Apollo 13, and look what happened there.. Things break, it happens..
Of course something like Cassini is a million times safer and more sane then all those atomic weapons and power plants, but still just not a good idea..
This stuff is too dangerous, find another way...
Just say no to nuclear power, any kind, any where.. If you can mine the resources outside of earth orbit, and use them there, fine, but keep that shit away from my(our) bioshphere.. It's about as safe as powering equiment with anthrax..
I think it's going to happen eventually anyway, no matter what.. Technology gets better, fast..
The only place you'll be safe is at home, not operating anything.. The rest of the time, big brothers watching, and it's online..
In terms on civil rights, IMO the important thing is to make sure that all these databases are available to *ANYONE*, at a resonable cost..
If my life is going to be an open book to the goverment, I'd like it to open to everyone else just to make sure I have lots of witnesses..
No stress with the police if you really haven't done anything wrong.. (Like the guy with the oil on his windshild).
No more tolarance of stupid laws, because it would be impossible to just work around them as we do now..
I'd bet the farm that the war on drugs would go away pretty quick once rich people stopped being able to get delivery dope, or any dope at all..
It would become pretty hard to lie at all.. A world where everyone was accountable doesn't seem too bad to me..
Not sure I'd like it, but I can see the upside of the cameras-everywhere-universe..
> The question is, after virii and nanobots, what > will be the next technology that could save or > damn us all? How many bullets can we dodge?
If we ever get nano up to full on fiction levels, it'd be a hell of a contender for 'ultimate technolgy'...
Self repilcating nanocommunites controlled by inbody neural overlays.. God like powers for you and for me..
Think, looking at a spare tire, let some nano crawl off you onto it, ponder a little, and turning it into new living breathing(optional) family pet..
Don't feel like being a pale 200 pound nerd today? Turn yourself into a spider monkey in the shower before work...
Lots of evil stuff too, but you could always rely on your nano to put you back together afterwards..
200 years or so seems like long enough at the current rate of progress.. Only limites are what a ol' mind can take before going good and insane..
Degressing now..
Living space is going to be the problem here.. Nano is great, isn't real good at making thrust for outerspace fun and games.. Maybe somekind of giant biomechanical gas factory or something.. Farting your way along, so to speak..
On the other hand, gray goo is great for turning astroids into condos.
I'm just crossing my fingers hoping that nano/virus technolgy keeps advancing faster then my personal rate of decay... Might yet make it into the last generation.. No limits on keeping you alive with that kind of technology, just on keeping you sane..
I say, damn the torpedos, lets get on with it, I'll take my chances with the goo..
Go read books like Steel Beach, Blood Music and Diamond Age.. And those where written before they knew about bunky balls..
Another long ramble by Gray, woo..
Quit whining.. If any other OS manufacture had done this (I assume some have) it would be smiles all around..
But when MS does it, it's an evil plot to get data for the FBI and market to everything...
I'm sure the NSA and DOD have already setup dummy servers to do that sort of thing ages ago and MS has plenty of marketing databases as it is.. One more isn't going to violate you any worse..
I mean, dislike the MS empire as much as the next guy, but I mean, yack..
I'm thinking it won't be cracked.. The admins are probably too on the ball (they wrote the thing) and it's pretty hard to develop a real bug attack without having the OS on a local box to play with.
After they release it on the other hand, I'm sure it'll fall like everything else..
Use carbonated water.. Beside the obvious bonus from the CO2, it's way less pleasent to get soaked with, yet harmless and doesn't stain.
That's how I do it.. IPChains and Socks5..
ICQ messages, chat and transfers work through socks with no problems.
However, I have yet to find a windows IRC client with complete SOCKS5 support.. I can get everything BUT outgoing DCC to work with just IPChains.
Frequently, the problem with IRC clients and NAT isn't the NAT itself, but the way the client figures out the local IP. If it uses the IP of the local machine, any direct connections are toast... Most clients (like mIRC) let you either manually specify an IP (a pain under DHCP) or can get it back from the IRC server after you connect.
Quake 2, Ultima Online and any other game I've tried have worked fine with just IPChains, but SOCKSCap is always an option for really wierd things.
And that's all there is too it.
Loser a user or two, or fight the man..
Okay, I could be wrong.. :)
Maybe they find come up with some neat ideas and make some money, maybe they toss it all in the shredder... Either way, no more legal hassles, fhew..
Both companies are very legally sensitive with tech stocks the way they are..
I'm thinking SGI could make anything nVidia does make if they put their mind to it.. After all, video cards aren't really that high tech.. Hire a pile of engineers, use the fastest chips available, done deal... What makes a nVidia or 3dfx is marketing and managment skill/luck..
Sounds like a good way to make people more interested sub-atomic physics to me..
'There is a small possibility we'll destory the earth in the blink of an eye.' makes for a pretty amazing press release... The fact that it's technically true makes it even better.
I often wonder why they don't take a 'lead into gold' angle with this stuff.. It's 'possible' isn't it? Bet you'd get some funding for your behind then..
Japenese style, live in the company apartment block.. Office space comes with apartment space..
I don't know if I'd go for that.. If the place was nice enough and the rent was cheap enough...
Could go home and take a nap well shit compiles..
I'm willing to bet there would be rather more housecoats at work then the japenese model though.
Internet capable phones where all over the place when I was in Amsterdam.
They used a large LCD tilted landscape style and cost a fortune to use.. Looked like some kind of customm OS deal to me, but I didn't actually use one.
I'm all for this kind of stuff.. I'll never use it, but when I do, it will be a life saver.
And the anonymous aspect is nice too.
All this is why I am no longer a comp-sci major, but a communications major..
Fuck 8am till forever.. Marketing does 10am till 5pm, and usually takes a 2 hour lunch..
Not to mention the freebie and travel perks.
And, as the only unix ninja in the marketing camp, half the time my job boils down to doing little computer things IT should be doing.. Who wants to fill out paperwork when the guy in the next cube can do in 30 seconds? Not to mention, "You an't fire/transfer him, he unscrews up my laptop when it goes nuts.."
My advice for young people.. Learn to make PCs work on your own time, take something marketing friendly in school.. The starting pay isn't as good, but the stress and personal commitment is *so* much lower, and advancement is easier to comeby if your into it.. Then again, I'm 23..
I think of it like this..
Do you know any sysadmins that have switched to NT from Linux(or anything else for that matter) of their own free will? I don't.
People only use NT because their either afraid of Linux (no crime there) or pointy heads make them.
Maybe my impressions are wrong, but so far, everything I've seen and done indicated that once you've gone over to *nix, you never want to go back..
Not to mention the other(more common) end of the spectrum. I'd like to see some benchmarks for P133's with 64 megs of RAM, or 486-66s for that matter..
My little server is a cyrix 166 with 32 megs, and I only upgraded it from a 486-66 because I wanted to play mp3s...
Ottawa sweet Ottawa.. I swear, I think we might be the most 'consumer' wired town in the world.
:)
Last I counted, it is possible to get three different flavors of DSL depending on your location and willingness to pay, and @home at cheaper then US prices.
For $70CND a month, I get 2.2mb/1.1mb ADSL, with a real static IP, because I signed up before the Nortel 1meg came on the scene. If I lived just on the other side the canal, I could get in on the VDSL trial and get 8.8mb(or something insane like that) for the same price.. If all that in unavilable, Nortel 1 Meg is available everywhere for $50, or @home for $40.
And man-oh-man do I ever get my milage out of that 1.1mb backchannel..