wait until it's your (sibling/parent/child/grandchild/grandparent/signi ficant other/friend) in the back of that ambulance, and then tell me how you feel. Way to make an emotional argument.
causality and locality are already dead aint they?
anyway.. I'm quite happy to say we don't know enough to say one way or another whether or not the speed of light is a real barrier to an advanced civilization.
Exotic matter is believed to exist. Techniques for using energy to make the gravitational effects of exotic matter are believed to be possible. So wormholes and warp drives are not out of the question, theoretically.. but it's still an insanely difficult engineering proposition, even if we knew how to do it today we couldn't do it.
If you get into an accident because of the chaos caused by an ambulance, you are prohibited by law in most countries from suing the hospital.. their insurance won't even pay. As such, the real cost of ambulances is an unknown.
I think the police would make the exact same argument. They're trained to know when it is safe to run red lights and when it is not.. so why shouldn't they be allowed to run them?
There are fewer people killed by ambulances than there are people saved by ambulances. Uh huh, and you have studies to back this up? Or you're just assuming the common wisdom is true?
firetrucks, maybe.. ambulances? no. There's 1 dude in the back of an ambulance, why should that 1 dude have the right to endanger the lives of countless motorists and pedestrians just so he can save himself?
The question is: why? How do you explain this observed phenomona that things without inertia go the speed of light? Where does inertia come from? Einstein proposed a possible explaination which he attributed to Mach (and Mach refused) but other than that little has been said about it since Newton (who say it as an intrinsic property). When we understand inertia, then we'll understand why the speed of light is a barrier and can think of practical ways future societies might get around it.
What is inertia, where does it come from? How do you explain it with particle physics? Start answering those questions and the speed of light stops being a barrier.
Oh yes they would. Because what you just did is called rational thought and the Slashdot crowd is not capable of rational thought when it comes to patents.
Excuse me.. but you are trying to justify to me that it is better to write certain forms of software in functional languages, but you're not willing to show me the code that is written in that way so that I can personally evaluate whether or not the code is "better". So basically you're asking me to take it on faith. For all I know the program you are claiming is written in a functional language might not be.. or may be so convulted and unmaintainable that it doesn't matter how well it stacks up in benchmarks.
A lot.. but not as many as I would expect have been written in functional languages.. seeing as they are so much easier to write multithreaded apps in.
Look, I don't think I'm asking something too unreasonable here. If functional languages are so much easier to write multithreaded apps using, then show me. Either point at something that already exists which demonstrates this claim or write something new that demonstrates this claim.
No, dude, he's asking you to solve real problems using your functional language which you claim to be so much better at solving real problems. And, as usual, the response from the functional programming crowd is to point at supposed case studies that no-one can verify or to point at contrived benchmarks.
Proprietary software doesn't count.. why? Cause no-one can see the benefits of using a functional language except the priveleged few who have access to the source code. So.. can you please name a large open source program written in a functional language which benefits from this supposed ease of parrallelisation that is being claimed here. Or are we just supposed to take your word for it?
Cool, with that kind of benefit, I'm sure you can point to some significant applications that have been written in a functional language which have been written for parallel execution.
This kind of pisses me off. People who are functional programming ethusists are always telling other people that they should be using functional languages but they never write anything significant in these languages.
You're cool man.. what you're doing is great. The pointlessness is all these postgrads who do their Masters in autonomous robots. They just repeat the same work that has been done a hundred times.. get the exact same results.. and learn nothing new.. And there's the researchers at other labs that rarely publish papers (if at all) and when they do, the findings are the same as what others found 40 years ago.
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Uhh.. Macs are used predominately by gay men. You seriously just learning this now? It's like most fashion trends.
causality and locality are already dead aint they?
anyway.. I'm quite happy to say we don't know enough to say one way or another whether or not the speed of light is a real barrier to an advanced civilization.
Exotic matter is believed to exist. Techniques for using energy to make the gravitational effects of exotic matter are believed to be possible. So wormholes and warp drives are not out of the question, theoretically.. but it's still an insanely difficult engineering proposition, even if we knew how to do it today we couldn't do it.
If you get into an accident because of the chaos caused by an ambulance, you are prohibited by law in most countries from suing the hospital.. their insurance won't even pay. As such, the real cost of ambulances is an unknown.
hehe, proof by lack of news coverage, brilliant!
I think the police would make the exact same argument. They're trained to know when it is safe to run red lights and when it is not.. so why shouldn't they be allowed to run them?
firetrucks, maybe.. ambulances? no. There's 1 dude in the back of an ambulance, why should that 1 dude have the right to endanger the lives of countless motorists and pedestrians just so he can save himself?
Less pieces of shit, more big cats!
The operating system named after pussies that runs on computers used prodominately by men who love cock.
The question is: why? How do you explain this observed phenomona that things without inertia go the speed of light? Where does inertia come from? Einstein proposed a possible explaination which he attributed to Mach (and Mach refused) but other than that little has been said about it since Newton (who say it as an intrinsic property). When we understand inertia, then we'll understand why the speed of light is a barrier and can think of practical ways future societies might get around it.
What is inertia, where does it come from? How do you explain it with particle physics? Start answering those questions and the speed of light stops being a barrier.
I use ink jet printable CDs and DVDs.. they have a nice white water absorbing layer on top. Just don't snap the DVDs..
and if you're drunk, try goin' at one with a metal file and making ninja stars.
Oh yes they would. Because what you just did is called rational thought and the Slashdot crowd is not capable of rational thought when it comes to patents.
Of course not. This is Slashdot, no-one here understands patents and no-one here thinks anything should be patentable.
Excuse me.. but you are trying to justify to me that it is better to write certain forms of software in functional languages, but you're not willing to show me the code that is written in that way so that I can personally evaluate whether or not the code is "better". So basically you're asking me to take it on faith. For all I know the program you are claiming is written in a functional language might not be.. or may be so convulted and unmaintainable that it doesn't matter how well it stacks up in benchmarks.
Yep, and? Just looks like it is written in Erlang because the author liked Erlang.. other than this "elegance" concept, what's the value?
I'm actually a fan of functional languages.. in so far as they are part of formal software development.
None of that is verifiable. Show me the code.
A lot.. but not as many as I would expect have been written in functional languages.. seeing as they are so much easier to write multithreaded apps in.
Look, I don't think I'm asking something too unreasonable here. If functional languages are so much easier to write multithreaded apps using, then show me. Either point at something that already exists which demonstrates this claim or write something new that demonstrates this claim.
The claim has been made, back it up.
No, dude, he's asking you to solve real problems using your functional language which you claim to be so much better at solving real problems. And, as usual, the response from the functional programming crowd is to point at supposed case studies that no-one can verify or to point at contrived benchmarks.
and the second part of my question? Is this multithreaded? Where's the benefits being claimed?
Proprietary software doesn't count.. why? Cause no-one can see the benefits of using a functional language except the priveleged few who have access to the source code. So.. can you please name a large open source program written in a functional language which benefits from this supposed ease of parrallelisation that is being claimed here. Or are we just supposed to take your word for it?
Cool, with that kind of benefit, I'm sure you can point to some significant applications that have been written in a functional language which have been written for parallel execution.
This kind of pisses me off. People who are functional programming ethusists are always telling other people that they should be using functional languages but they never write anything significant in these languages.
You're cool man.. what you're doing is great. The pointlessness is all these postgrads who do their Masters in autonomous robots. They just repeat the same work that has been done a hundred times.. get the exact same results.. and learn nothing new.. And there's the researchers at other labs that rarely publish papers (if at all) and when they do, the findings are the same as what others found 40 years ago.