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Can CDs Be Recycled?

An anonymous reader asks: "I was recently doing a closet-cleaning and came across literally hundreds of old software CDs that are no longer usable — both manufactured CDs and CD-Rs. Note that by 'not usable', I mean that many of them simply couldn't be read anymore, possibly due to the fact that they'd been stored rather ineptly (no, I wasn't responsible for how they were stored). It seems wrong to just throw them out, but are there other things that can be done with them that will allow their raw materials to be reused in some way?Is it possible to reclaim CDs for raw materials?"

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  1. They make great coasters by QuantumG · · Score: 2, Funny

    and if you're drunk, try goin' at one with a metal file and making ninja stars.

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    1. Re:They make great coasters by RabidJackal · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I forget the link, but I remember some guy began making carvings out of his CDs into the shape of animals and objects.

      On a side note, I find the best ninja stars are made from CD-Rs. the commercial ones usually have an ink layer that flakes off everywhere and just looks untidy when its done.

    2. Re:They make great coasters by j00r0m4nc3r · · Score: 3, Informative

      They actually make terrible coasters, because without a material on them to absorb water, or a lip around the edge to trap it, water just rolls off onto the table.

    3. Re:They make great coasters by QuantumG · · Score: 1

      I use ink jet printable CDs and DVDs.. they have a nice white water absorbing layer on top. Just don't snap the DVDs..

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    4. Re:They make great coasters by tsa · · Score: 1

      I always use them as coasters, but I use dry glasses, that only get condensed water on them. I can imagine that they don't perform well with glasses that are wet to begin with (glasses of beer from the tap for example).

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    5. Re:They make great coasters by steveo777 · · Score: 3, Informative
      I've used them to hold big candles. They reflect the light and make some pretty cool looking candelabras when you use a bunch of different colored CD's at varying heights.

      On the other hand they don't tend to stop the wax from flowing all over the place.

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  2. Yes! by rlp · · Score: 4, Funny

    But only if they're RW.

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    1. Re:Yes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can recycle even the non-RW CDs! I'm slowly building a new planet cleverly covering the old one. Don't worry, it is an open source project. You are welcome to contribute to the project and stand on the new planet when it is finished. I've enlisted fleets of trucks to assist in completing this important project. Pitch in today!

  3. Same situation here by failedlogic · · Score: 1

    Only thing I've thought to do with the CDs is to use them as coffee coasters. There's only so many coasters a person can have. Since I don't drink much coffee they double up for beer too.

    The ones with sensitive data (financial) or work I shred into a shredder. I at least am aware some I might not want to give away or trash so its too easily recovered.

    Isn't the problem that the metal and polycarbon layers in the CD would be hard to separate to recycle? If CDs are "bad for the environment/recycling", is there a better alternative for backups like backup tapes (DDS, etc)?

  4. Dunno about the US. by Ihlosi · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here in Europe, CDs are collected for recycling.

    1. Re:Dunno about the US. by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

      Here in Europe, CDs are collected for recycling.
      Intact or destroyed? I wouldn't put an intact data CD or DVD in a recycling or trash bin lest it be extracted and read by unknown or unfriendly outside parties.
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    2. Re:Dunno about the US. by maxume · · Score: 1

      I have marginally sensitive personal data on some small fraction of my cds. I applaud you for storing intensely personal data on even the cds that Aol sends you in the mail. No small trick, I'm sure.

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    3. Re:Dunno about the US. by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

      I haven't received an AOL CD in the mail for over a year. I'm not sure how I managed that.

      I could have personal pictures on CDs, or scans of tax forms, or even just documents that I don't want associated with my identity but maybe just one file might identify me. They could be backups of source code I've written that I wouldn't want people to get their hands on, but I'm replacing them with new copies periodically to avoid CD rot and need to securely destroy them. Maybe the RIAA thinks I'm illegally redistributing my music CD backups to unknown third parties by putting them in publicly accessible recycle bins just as if I had mistakenly marked the directory I store them in as shared to the world, or software companies accusing me of illegally transferring single-use licenses.

      And when you're under a government that deems it necessary to know who everyone calls on the phone and not only retains that information but demands everyone retain even more information for them to mine at will for years... well, there's reason to ensure you never voluntarily leaking any information whatsoever that could be used against you by any administration, current or future.

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    4. Re:Dunno about the US. by maxume · · Score: 1

      Your post had just enough apparent paranoia to poke fun at. I smash em too.

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    5. Re:Dunno about the US. by wvmarle · · Score: 1

      And then, no kidding, they mostly go via Hong Kong to China for recycling (that's my business; I live in Hong Kong and am trading plastic scraps including scrap CDs and DVDs for a living).

      As other people have pointed out, there is a metal layer on the CD. In case of complete disks, this is usually removed using an abrasion system. If a disk is broken or shredded - this is commonly the case as 99% of the collection is post industrial, and those disks have to be destroyed for copyright reasons - or if you are talking about a DVD (metal layer in the middle) they can be washed in sulphuric or hydrochloric acid or the likes.

      Washing is done so well, that the recovered plastic (a polycarbonate, PC) can be used to make new CDs.

      Unfortunately the process is quite polluting, particularly as the acidic waste is simply purged in the sewer system - if that's available of course. Otherwise I don't know where they purge it, but they for sure don't keep the mess.

      The Chinese government is currently trying to stop the trade in CDs exactly because of this environmental reason.

      Wouter.

  5. Yes by gagravarr · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yes, you can recycle your cds. There's a list of places that offer cd recycling on recyclenow - http://www.recyclenow.com/what_more_can_i_do/can_i t_be_recycled/compact_discs.html

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    1. Re:Yes by Gr8Apes · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Ah good! A place to forward all those AOL CDs to.

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    2. Re:Yes by bradkittenbrink · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I so thought that was going to be a link to http://www.willitblend.com/videos.aspx?type=unsafe &video=movie

    3. Re:Yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great! Three of the 4 links on that page point to the UK. Let's send them all to the UK! Hmmm...They can be used to reflect the sun into all those cameras.

  6. NINJA STAR CDs by rustalot42684 · · Score: 4, Funny

    It would be cool if thinkgeek or someone made cds that were 120mm wide, but they only used the 1st 80mm, like mini cds, and they had 20mm ninja star spikes or something. That may you could store your top secret ninja plans and kill pirates at the SAME TIME!

    1. Re:NINJA STAR CDs by LighterShadeOfBlack · · Score: 4, Funny

      It would be cool if thinkgeek or someone made cds that were 120mm wide, but they only used the 1st 80mm, like mini cds, and they had 20mm ninja star spikes or something. That may you could store your top secret ninja plans and kill pirates at the SAME TIME!

      Yeah, just don't use them in a 52x CD reader or the CD will fracture and the spikes will fly off and take off everybody's kneecaps.


      ...unless that was the plan all along. Touché /.ninja, touché.

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    2. Re:NINJA STAR CDs by east+coast · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah, just don't use them in a 52x CD reader or the CD will fracture and the spikes will fly off and take off everybody's kneecaps.

      Would you consider that "defective by design" or a hidden "feature" of the disc?

      I would think it very useful in the right situation. Is anyone filming a new James Bomd film?

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    3. Re:NINJA STAR CDs by miyako · · Score: 1

      That reminds me of some old soundtracks for SNES games that were sold as CDs that were shaped as characters from the games. The one that specifically sticks out in my mind is the Yoshi's Island soundtrack, with a CD shaped like Yoshi. I never actually owned any of them, but I definitely recall seeing them in the catalogs that used to come quarterly with Nintendo Power.

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    4. Re:NINJA STAR CDs by rthille · · Score: 1

      Don't kill pirates, that causes global warming!

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    5. Re:NINJA STAR CDs by ottothecow · · Score: 1

      you could just do it anyway, CD's read from the center so you would just have to make sure you dont file away further than the disk has been written to

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    6. Re:NINJA STAR CDs by Purity+Of+Essence · · Score: 1

      It would be cool if thinkgeek or someone made cds that were 120mm wide, but they only used the 1st 80mm, like mini cds, and they had 20mm ninja star spikes or something.

      These kinds of discs are available. Several years ago, DiscMakers was the first company I saw with them made to customer specs. I couldn't find them on their website but several other companies offer the service.

      http://www.answers.com/topic/shaped-cd
      http://www.multishapecdrom.com/cd_showcase/?case=i rr_01
      http://www.newcyberian.com/shapedcd.html
      http://www.cdrom-businesscard.co.uk/displayproduct .php?product_id=72&category_id=25
      http://www.morphius.com/manufacturing/shapedcds.cf m
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  7. obvious by scenestar · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Use them as Coasters?

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  8. Microwave by tscheez · · Score: 4, Informative

    While this is not a way to recycle CD's, it is fun and will destroy the data on it permanently. Put one data side up in the microwave and run it for 2-4 seconds on high and watch the light show. (I wouldn't suggest doing this in a microwave you like, it *seems* to do no damage to the microwave but I can't be sure)

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    1. Re:Microwave by tsa · · Score: 3, Informative

      It sure makes your home stink like a hellhole. We tried toasting CD's in this way in the research group's kitchen once. The experiment worked out beautifully but you could still smell it a week later.

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    2. Re:Microwave by Wooloomooloo · · Score: 1

      Open a window after you nuke them, the resulting smell is just nasty.

    3. Re:Microwave by iMySti · · Score: 1

      Make sure you're using a microwave oven though, when you use the regular ovens you'll spend the next 4 hours scraping plastic off the bottom.

    4. Re:Microwave by adona1 · · Score: 1

      Not to mention they make the CD crack in very cool spidery circles. Almost turns them into attractive coasters, at that ;) we found the coloured CDs worked best for that.

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  9. Future archeology by sakdoctor · · Score: 2, Funny

    Maybe the CDs are unreadable now, but who knows in the future. Future archaeologists may one day discover the thick fossilized layer of AOL trial CDs that we have deposited and somehow be able extract the data, or even use them to fuel their flying cars.

    1. Re:Future archeology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Everyone knows that the notion that there will be flying cars in the future has been thoroughly and repeatedly debunked.

  10. Dunno about Europe. by KlaymenDK · · Score: 2, Informative

    Here in Denmark, they're not.

    It annoys me so much that in a little flat country such as Denmark we can't figure out how to sort our waste, especially when the tiniest mountain villages in Austria do it. >_< Ok, rant over.

    1. Re:Dunno about Europe. by Corporate+Troll · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I bring them to the recycling centre like almost every other plastic I collect. Nobody ever complained. I'll look if they have a separate container for it next time I go there. There are employees that do the sorting for us. (I like going there, especially for dumpster diving in the electronics container. Nuggets I found there are a P-IV 1.9GHz and an AMD Athlon 1.2GHz... both in working order. I don't even bother taking P-III class machines anymore... *grin*)

      I don't live in Denmark though...

    2. Re:Dunno about Europe. by Bloke+down+the+pub · · Score: 4, Funny

      It annoys me so much that in a little flat country such as Denmark we can't figure out how to sort our waste
      Maybe you could drop it in the sea, or pile it all up somewhere into a kind of artificial hill? Then at least your country would be a little less little and a little less flat.
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    3. Re:Dunno about Europe. by KlaymenDK · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Last time I went to the recycling centre with some cases of floppies and cds, the went directly into the "small combustibles" dumpster ... so not exactly recycled.

      The folks down there throw tantrums if you're caught dumpster diving, which is sad because I think direct re-use is better than eventual recycling, no? I did manage to salvage a couple of Nixies from some weird old scientific instrument, though.

    4. Re:Dunno about Europe. by Corporate+Troll · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'll take a closer look at what they do with the CDs next time that I'm there. Promised. Still, if one googles fro CD Recycling, it seems to exist.

      Oh, they weren't happy to find out when I got caught dumpster diving. Now, I just look around if there are any employees around. I don't understand it either: re-use should be better.

    5. Re:Dunno about Europe. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I bet those employees were planning on a little ebay 're-use' themselves. Your dumpster-diving is probably putting a dent in their profits, that's why they complain.

    6. Re:Dunno about Europe. by Corporate+Troll · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You may have a point there... but how much do a P-IV bring these days on eBay? Not that much, I guess.

    7. Re:Dunno about Europe. by ProppaT · · Score: 3, Interesting

      There really is no such thing as cd recycling. The metal in the foil is considered toxic, and there's no real way to reuse the plastic because of the foil inside, so they're more than likely just disintegrated...unless there's some way to reuse the dust if it's pulverized (which I really doubt).

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    8. Re:Dunno about Europe. by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      "It annoys me so much that in a little flat country such as Denmark we can't figure out how to sort our waste..."

      You lost me here.....sort waste (trash)? You don't just throw it in the garbage can, and once or twice a week, the garbagemen drive by the front of your house and empty your can and haul it all away?

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    9. Re:Dunno about Europe. by horatio · · Score: 1

      The metal in the foil is considered toxic

      A bit OT, but I called poison control (and then the "animal" poison control...) a few months ago after my dog ate most of a CD-R, thinking the same thing. They assured me there was nothing toxic, despite my insistence that while I don't understand much physics/chemistry, I was under the impression that the recordable layer is some type of organic dye.

      I looked on the web at the time and wasn't able to find anything that seemed consistent about the makeup of the metal layers, so what is in those things? Alumnium, nickel, ?

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    10. Re:Dunno about Europe. by KlaymenDK · · Score: 2, Informative

      "It annoys me so much that in a little flat country such as Denmark we can't figure out how to sort our waste..."


      You lost me here.....sort waste (trash)? You don't just throw it in the garbage can, and once or twice a week, the garbagemen drive by the front of your house and empty your can and haul it all away?

      Perhaps I should have written garbage, yes.

      Here, everything goes into the same (under-the-sink) trash can, then into a single-compartment garbage truck, to one garbage heap. It pains me everytime I have to throw away perfectly good alumim(i)um foil. As it is, trying to roll a ton of it into a big ball for recycling would only serve to make me (a) $.02 richer, and (b) a laughing-stock.

      OTOH, in Austria (or at least several parts of it) you are supposed to sort your garbage into separate trash cans for organic, plastic and metal parts. Therefore, if you buy sliced ham at the butcher's, the coated paper that it comes wrapped in can easily be taken apart for separate disposal. Very nice.

      Oh well ...
    11. Re:Dunno about Europe. by alienmole · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't worry about it, all the smartest people in Denmark seem to be doing computer science, which is good. (Somehow the latter page omitted Danvy.) I recommend outsourcing your garbage handling to a dumber country.

    12. Re:Dunno about Europe. by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 1

      There really is no such thing as cd recycling.
      Sure there is.

      I can't believe I've read this far down with no one mentioning Google.

      The metal in the foil is considered toxic, and there's no real way to reuse the plastic because of the foil inside

      ...which is why the recycling process separates the plastic from the metal.

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    13. Re:Dunno about Europe. by Atario · · Score: 1

      The metal in the foil is considered toxic, and there's no real way to reuse the plastic because of the foil inside
      ...which is why the recycling process separates the plastic from the metal.
      I thought it's because when you recycle, you want metal in one pile and plastic in another. Besides, isn't that metal nickel anyway? Since when is nickel considered dangerous?
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    14. Re:Dunno about Europe. by dbIII · · Score: 1

      Since when is nickel considered dangerous?

      Materials Safety Data Sheet

      http://physchem.ox.ac.uk/MSDS/NI/nickel.html

    15. Re:Dunno about Europe. by dbIII · · Score: 1

      I should add that the above is for powder - dust from grinding up the CDs will be similar. It just means recycling would have to take this into account.

    16. Re:Dunno about Europe. by montyzooooma · · Score: 1

      So how's your dog? I'm assuming he didn't peg it so the CD recordable layer probably isn't THAT toxic, if toxic at all.

    17. Re:Dunno about Europe. by horatio · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yeah, she's fine. :) The vet said the biggest thing to worry about was internal bleeding caused by perforations from the shards of plastic, but that wasn't an issue. I am a little surprised that the organic dye layer (whatever it is composed of) didn't seem to make her sick at all. Maybe I should start feeding her CDs I want "recycled" instead of contaminated off-the-shelf dog food.

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    18. Re:Dunno about Europe. by session_start · · Score: 1

      They assured me there was nothing toxic Sounds like a case for the mythbusters
    19. Re:Dunno about Europe. by Arthur+B. · · Score: 1

      Feel no pain. Raw material is cheap, your space and your time are not. I live in Manhattan and I am supposed to sort my garbage. It takes me an extra trash bin to do that, the space cost is gigantic, and it takes time.

      The reason behind this is that trash sorting is ideologically, not economically motivated. Governments play on guilt and obedience to keep people in line. If recycling were necessary because of some expected shortage, that would be reflected by market prices because speculators would hold resources waiting for penury. Thus, recycling makes economical sense only if it actually makes a profit, *including all costs* that is your time, space, energy etc. Trash sorting should be negotiated between trash collecting companies and their customers, if it's profitable to sort their trash, people will do it, otherwise they won't. Coercing people into sorting their trash is both morally objectable and economically unsound.

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    20. Re:Dunno about Europe. by siriuskase · · Score: 1

      Denmark should do wha Florida does. South Florida is natually completely flat, but all around Miami, there are mountains with golf courses and other amenities on top. Guess why? My state hides its landfills between real mountains, but Florida doesn't have any.

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    21. Re:Dunno about Europe. by siriuskase · · Score: 1

      Around here (GA-USA) you have two containers, one for garbage and one for recyclables. The garbage company collects both, usually in separate trucks. Some have automated sorters, some have minimum wage employees, and the ones owned by cities sometimes have retarded people and other people who work as volunteers.

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    22. Re:Dunno about Europe. by jafuser · · Score: 1

      It pains me everytime I have to throw away perfectly good alumim(i)um foil.

      I can relate to the Al foil dilemma. I guess it bothers me to toss out something that used to be more valuable than gold.

      Just imagine 50 years from now when we're equally conflicted with tossing out titanium foil.

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  11. You might want to ask AOHell by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    Since our lawmakers are contemplating a law which makes it mandatory to take back your leaflets and flyers and whatever other RL-Spam you cram into the mailbox of unsuspecting and innocent victims, AOL might have some R&D guys on this.

    If they just stop sending me free coasters, I wouldn't mind either. The amount they sent during those last 10 years is enough for the next few decades.

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    1. Re:You might want to ask AOHell by LighterShadeOfBlack · · Score: 1

      Do AOL still do that somewhere?

      6-7 years ago I used to get dozens of ISP CDs from companies every week, especially AOL and CompuServe. I haven't had any in the last 3-4 years. Maybe it's because of recycling laws here in the UK. In which case you could soon be living a life free of AOL CDs soon too.

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    2. Re:You might want to ask AOHell by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 1

      It was the end of an AOL recycling era when their software outgrew floppies. I will always love AOL for being an unending source of free, reformattable discs in the 1990s. Every so often I'd call them up acting like a computer repair shop and request a few boxes of DOS, Mac, and Windows kits, and hey presto, another massive stack of free floppies for whatever. They used good quality discs, I guess in order to survive being smacked around by mail carriers.

      The golden age of useful recyclable spam.. *sigh* ..now git off my lawn!

    3. Re:You might want to ask AOHell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Damn AOL for not using CD-RWs to distribute their software!

  12. Re-burn them...sorta by VanessaE · · Score: 1
    I can't remember the company or the project name, but back in the late 90's (?) there was a standalone drive that you could hook to your computer or another audio device, that would let you record something new over the original content of a commercial CD. The commercial depicted a teenager anxiously popping a new CD into his portable player in anticipation of some new band he'd heard about, only to be thoroughly disappointed by their music.


    How it worked or whether it was a hoax is anyone's guess. Google doesn't seem to have anything relating to it, either.

    1. Re:Re-burn them...sorta by VanessaE · · Score: 1

      er, the product name, even.

    2. Re:Re-burn them...sorta by Mad+Merlin · · Score: 1

      I vaguely remember something like this as well. Of course, I never actually saw one or it's results in person, though.

      I'm tempted to say it was just a hoax.

    3. Re:Re-burn them...sorta by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There was a genuine product that sort-of allowed you to do this. It didn't actually write anything to the disc itself: It sat on top of the CD device driver, and allowed you to write to the mounted volume, new files or editing/overwriting/deleting stuff on the disc, but your writes were actually stored on your hard disc, and each time the same CD was inserted, it would recognise it, and apply the edits to the mounted volume.

      So it wasn't a way to re-use CDs. What it was good at was allowing you to apply a patch to CD-based software without having to burn a new disc.

      Don't know if it's still available... not many programs these days stay on the CD; you have to install everything to your hard drive anyway, so there's probably not much call for this program.

    4. Re:Re-burn them...sorta by oldmacdonald · · Score: 1

      You can do this with unionfs. This is used for saving user data in puppylinux, and probably other bootable CD distributions.

    5. Re:Re-burn them...sorta by Zontar_Thing_From_Ve · · Score: 1

      That's what you get for working from memory. There is a long story I won't go into about something Groucho Marx supposedly said on the TV version of _You Bet Your Life_ (for youngsters, it's an old game show he used to host) that, according to the story, was so risque that it immediately got the show cancelled on the spot or some such nonsense. I read a bio of Groucho and the only thing the author could find was that Groucho did a radio show of _You Bet Your Life_ prior to the TV show and this show was only broadcast on the radio. In a warmup that was NOT broadcast, he said something similar to the comment he supposedly said on TV. There is no history of this incident ever occuring on TV. Websites have debunked it as an urban legend. Yet 10 years ago I worked with 2 different guys who swore they saw a rerun where Groucho said it. When I told one that the bio said it wasn't true, he just shrugged his shoulders and said he remembered seeing it. There's a Wikipedia story on it at:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Bet_Your_Life
      Scroll down to the "cigar" headline. Note that despite the claims of some to have seen it, no one has ever produced a copy or any evidence other than memory that it happened and Groucho himself denied it.

      Given that for reasons others have given that CDs can't be written to, I think your memory may be wrong. Now I did once see a cheap device that uses a needle like an old (think Thomas Edison old) grammophone to record grooves into the LABEL side of a CD as a kid's toy to show how grammophones used to work, but that's the only thing I can think of that even comes to this.

    6. Re:Re-burn them...sorta by LunaticTippy · · Score: 1

      You can do this with vinyl records. Just take a pressed record and stamp it again with a new master. I have a record made with this method and the b-side is still the original recording.

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  13. reclaim or replace the product/license by mqx · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Depending upon what CD it is, and who the manufacturer is, you may be able to reclaim the license or a replacement CD. For example, you can do this with PowerDVD if you lose the license or the CD is damaged. Even if the software is not worth anything to you, it may be to someone else. If any of the CDs are for software of some original/current value, it may be worth taking the time to look into this. You could sell them on eBay for an earner.

    1. Re:reclaim or replace the product/license by KeatonMill · · Score: 1

      I think the original poster said that the CDs were unreadable...

  14. Artwork by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 2, Informative

    Shiny but useless CDs can be very useful for artists who need sparklies. Try sticking them up on your local Freecycle or Craigslist as a freebie, someone out there may be willing to take them off your hands.

    1. Re:Artwork by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good idea, but it should be noted that you want to make really sure any CDs which held sensitive data are REALLY a lost cause before handing them off to a stranger.

  15. yes by yada21 · · Score: 0

    I use them as coasters. Some say they make good bird-scarers for the garden, but I don't have a garden so I don't know if it's correct.

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  16. I recycle mine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I use them as flying targets with my shotgun.

  17. Probably. by mythar · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you live in Silicon Valley, you can check http://www.recyclestuff.org/.

  18. Here's a few by clickclickdrone · · Score: 4, Interesting

    1. You can make mobiles for a baby - nice interesting colours one side, shiny reflections the other. Get half a dozen hanging up on a coathanger arrangement and you have one happy baby.
    2. Cover your walls in them. Either side will do. Good for students but abit sad for anyone else. Great for the 1960's Sci-Fi retro look though.
    3. Put them at the bottom of a fish pond. Nice reflections in the sun. Probably annoys the hell out the fish though.
    (Somewhat more 'out there' ones)
    4. Put them on your hub caps for extra bling.
    5. Dazzle muggers
    6. That trick with microwave ovens.
    7. balance furniture on uneven floors.

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    1. Re:Here's a few by ak3ldama · · Score: 1

      4. Put them on your hub caps for extra bling.
      Wow ... just, wow. A whole new meaning for spinners.
      6. That trick with microwave ovens.
      That is an awesome suggestion. Except I did that while in high school one night in the industrial microwave at McDonalds and melted the plastic the cd sat upon within a second. One of those, 'I hope no one else notices' moments. The smell of the burnt plastic lingered for a while too.

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    2. Re:Here's a few by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

      8. Signaling rescue planes with reflected sunlight. You can even use the spindle hole to sight the aircraft.

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    3. Re:Here's a few by Detritus · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The trick is to put a small glass of water in with the CD. That makes the magnetron happy. Put the CD on top of the glass.

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    4. Re:Here's a few by antdude · · Score: 1

      Is it really safe to put in fish tanks? I thought CDs have chemicals like those dyes.

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    5. Re:Here's a few by clickclickdrone · · Score: 1

      No idea - if they are toxic I guess that means the fish will be annoyed on several levels.
      Goldfish 1: I'm dazzled! Oh, the water tastes funny. Hi Goldfish 2
      Goldfish 2: Hi - hey, what's that bright thing?
      Goldfish 1: I'm dazzled! Oh, the water tastes funny. Hi Goldfish 2
      Goldfish 2: Hi - hey, what's that bright thing?
      Goldfish 1: I'm dazzled! Oh, the water tastes funny. Hi Goldfish 2
      Goldfish 2: Hi - hey, what's that bright thing?
      Goldfish 1: I'm dazzled! Oh, the water tastes funny. Hi Goldfish 2
      Goldfish 2: Hi - hey, what's that bright thing?
      etc.

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    6. Re:Here's a few by SQLGuru · · Score: 1

      I did this with an old MS-BOB CD I got at a TechNet conference:
      http://www.kidsdomain.com/craft/clock3.html

      The horn-rimmed glasses on the yellow smiley face looks great as a clock.....or you can decorate it yourself with acrylic paint.... To top it off, I had a dual-CD case (the ones that would fold out flat, not the ones that resembled a book) and it makes a great clock stand.

      Layne

      Off-topic, but who knew that MS-BOB was ahead of his time fashion wise...he and HRG from Heros would make a great duo.

    7. Re:Here's a few by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just don't use a glass you like.

    8. Re:Here's a few by Deagol · · Score: 1

      5. Dazzle muggers

      Bully Blinders!

    9. Re:Here's a few by jafuser · · Score: 1

      4. Put them on your hub caps for extra bling.

      Why stop at the hubcaps when you can cover the whole car?

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  19. polycarbonate -- unfortunately not by redelm · · Score: 3, Informative
    CDs are made of polycarbonate resin, Recycling Class (7) that finds little use. See and here.

    1. Re:polycarbonate -- unfortunately not by Llamalarity · · Score: 1

      Recycling Class (7) refers to post consumer waste and is a catch all for many diffrent plastics. Clean pre-consumer poly carbonate regrind is worth more than most other common plastics. Obviously ground up CDs full of bits of foil and labels would not be clean or valuable...

      Regret I never got around to dropping a handfull of ground CDs in the machine I once ran. Always wondered if the foil bits would still sparkle afterwards.

    2. Re:polycarbonate -- unfortunately not by wvmarle · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Let me tell you that polycarbonate scrap is one of the most valuable scraps around. As long as one keeps it pure! And even if mixed a bit and in big enough pieces we can sort it out in China.

      Scrapped, metallised CDs (no cases/paper/etc) at the moment fetch a price of about US$ 1,000 per ton (1,000 kg) in the market in Hong Kong, for complete loads of about 20 ton. I have half a dozen containers with CD scrap on the water on the way to Hong Kong at the moment. Good business.

      That said, the material I get is mostly post industrial: rejects and leftovers from the factories, shredded to destroy the copyrights. What happens to the post consumer materials I don't know really.

      Wouter.

  20. If you are bold... by JanCold · · Score: 1

    You cold use it as a hat in costume parties stays on without any glue. My collegue did that in one party and of course won the main prize with it :D

    1. Re:If you are bold... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A hat? Where did he put it on?

  21. Hmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My wife just got into mosaicing. I wonder how cleanly her tools will cut them. She could do some neat stuff with them.

  22. more ways to recycle by turing_m · · Score: 1

    You could burn them, and let plants photosynthesize the carbon into wood. The hydrogen combines with oxygen to make water.

    You could even use the energy to propel you forward.

    http://www.motherearthnews.com/Green-Transportatio n/1980-05-01/Ajax-The-Woodburning-Steam-Powered-Tr uck.aspx

    Yeah, it's as niche as using cooking oil from restaurants, but it might work. And there is always the nice living to be made from saving those interesting things people forget they ever stored on those CDs from seeing the light of day.

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    1. Re:more ways to recycle by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 1

      The cooking-oil-powered vehicles kick out exhaust that, at worst, smells a bit like french fries. The smoke from burning wood is mostly harmless if vented properly, and may trigger nostalgic memories of Winter holidays by granddad's old fireplace. The fumes from burning plastics are quite a different, and much more toxic, issue.

    2. Re:more ways to recycle by alienw · · Score: 1

      Not really. It smells nasty, but if done properly it's not much more harmful than burning wood. The main problem is that plastics don't burn hot enough in a typical fire. If you build a proper incinerator (with forced air and so on), plastics are as safe to burn as any other fuel.

  23. 2 Words... by Alicat1194 · · Score: 1

    Giant Mirrorball!

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  24. We use the Technotrash can by GreenDisk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    We generate a LOT of CD and tech waste where I work, so we looked into this. Turns out there is a company that recycles all that sort of junk called GreenDisk, so I get a technotrash can every 3 months or so. Basically you pay $40 for a box that they send you, you load it up with up to 70 pounds of tech-junk, and then you send it back via USPS. They pay shipping on the way back (but I think you really pay it up front when you give them the $40 :-P).

    http://www.greendisk.com/

  25. Use them for Ammo by UberHoser · · Score: 0

    Remeber the little toy gun that shot the little plastic disks out? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tracer_gun/ Make a gun that could shoot out CD-Roms.

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    1. Re:Use them for Ammo by Falladir · · Score: 1
  26. Two words: Art Car! by Mr.+Droopy+Drawers · · Score: 1
    First thing that came to mind was attaching them to your car!



    In Houston, I saw the Art Car Parade and someone shaped the CD's into the shape of fish scales. Gonna have to look for those photos.

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    To Copy from One is Plagiarism; To Copy from Many is Research.

    1. Re:Two words: Art Car! by mikael · · Score: 1

      Could this be the car?

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  27. well-balanced throwing star by davidwr · · Score: 1

    A throwing-star-shaped CD shouldn't be a problem in a high-speed drive if it is perfectly balanced.

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    1. Re:well-balanced throwing star by LighterShadeOfBlack · · Score: 2, Funny

      Depends on the type of throwing star I guess. I immediately envisaged a six-pointed hira shuriken where the thin "necks" would be highly vulnerable. I guess with four-points it probably wouldn't be an issue.

      Oh God am I really having a serious conversation about the structural integrity of throwing-star shaped CDs?

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  28. AOL Throne by iangoldby · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm surprised no one has mentioned the AOL Throne yet.

  29. I decorated a Christmas tree one year by porkchop_d_clown · · Score: 1

    entirely with junk CDs. It was very sparklely.

  30. CD Lamp! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting
  31. DON'T BREATHE THE VAPORS!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A few years back I had an "unwise microwave oven experiments" party. Large, powerful old microwave that was headed for the dumpster and a keg of beer, everybody brings something to microwave.

    The laptop backlight and 10" fluorescent tube were... bright. Like, searchlight bright. And strangely enough some of the most interesting effects were done with food, like split grapes and an unopened bag of marshmallows. We never achieved a stable plasma (we made some that lasted a few seconds, though) mostly because of the diffculty in controlling air currents.

    Anyway, we fried a lot of CDs, because they look tres cool in the microwave. My buddy Pete and I each got a slight whiff of the vapor produced by this (we were outside at the time) and it was a week or so before we stopped feeling the effects.

    1. Re:DON'T BREATHE THE VAPORS!!!! by smbarbour · · Score: 1

      If you start with a stable plasma, you'll have better luck. Try a lit candle next time.

    2. Re:DON'T BREATHE THE VAPORS!!!! by nicolastheadept · · Score: 1

      The fluorescent light tube is not a good thing to microwave, it contains that most wonderful of substances: Mercury vapour.

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    3. Re:DON'T BREATHE THE VAPORS!!!! by dbIII · · Score: 1

      But not very much of it. Not something to play with but not something to regard with terror either.

  32. The only idea I could come up with by Atrox666 · · Score: 1

    I've used old CDs and spindles to build an inexpensive array of cohesion based turbines.
    I've been using it to power my world domination experiments.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_turbine

  33. Clocks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've seen people using them to make clock faces -- just attach a cheap clock mechanism to the back, and a set of hands to the front, and voila. You don't even need to drill a hole in the middle.

    Very cheap and tacky, but from the number of them I've seen for sale in flea markets, people must obviously buy them, so what have you got to lose? (apart from your dignity and whatever it costs to buy those cheap clock mechanisms)

  34. Giant sequins? by jandersen · · Score: 1

    The new in-thing for going to the disco.

  35. Space Mirror by Yvan256 · · Score: 1

    Let's make a huge space mirror from all the old unused CDs on earth. Or maybe make that space elevator by stacking them. Or keep them as ammo to throw at alien flying saucers. You knew that you can only fight flying discs with other flying discs, right?

    1. Re:Space Mirror by sxeraverx · · Score: 1

      This isn't Magic the Gathering, you know. This is real life.

  36. Solar Death Ray! by purduephotog · · Score: 1

    http://www.solardeathray.com/

    You can use the CDs to focus the sun's energy to a point and make a solar death ray! It's fun- all you need is a little epoxy!

  37. In most cases... by Amerist · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yes.

    Electronic waste is a huge part of our community in the United States and as a result a lot of recycling centers and other facilities have cropped up to try to handle it. Since I work for them, the first place I'd check to locate a facility near me is EARTH911, there is even a computer recycling section being floated right now: Computer Components Recycling.

    In many cases they will be reuse and donation centers, or something like ACT; in the end anything that gives these items a longer lifespan in the community or puts them to different use than ending up in a landfill is a step in good direction.

  38. Make a Chair from CDs by wooferhound · · Score: 0

    You could always build a Chair with them . . .

    http://stupidco.com/aol_throne_intro.html

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  39. google by blackjackshellac · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Surely searching for 'cd recycling' would have resulted in an answer to this question.

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  40. DYI another cd lamp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    someone already said cd lamp, here's another version http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s= &threadid=2425725

  41. Use them to scare birds by bcmm · · Score: 1

    I have seen and heard of several people using old/AOL CDs to scare birds away from various vegetable gardens and allotments. You hang CDs from a tree/fence/whatever (or along a string between to stakes) by a thread through the centre, and the constantly moving rainbow patterns as the CDs spin in the wind confuse and scare birds. They reportedly work much better than scarecrows (most types of bird soon work out that scarecrows can't really move and just get used to them).

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  42. How well would they hold up in the outdoors? by WillAdams · · Score: 1

    I've always wondered if one could use them as a roofing material (though fashioning a fastener for the rather large central hole would be a pain)

    A quick search on Google leads one to this page though:

    http://www.obviously.com/recycle/guides/hard.html

    where it has some information and lists two addresses which will take them to recycle (and CD-Rs has ~20mg of gold --- who knew?)

    William

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    1. Re:How well would they hold up in the outdoors? by ADRA · · Score: 1

      I don't know if new discs use gold, but the old ones did. Basically, the gold is what the laser was manipulating in order to make pits. Since gold is so mailable, i imagine that was the design reasoning for choosing it.

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  43. Every geek in the US needs one of these around... by Optic7 · · Score: 3, Informative
    The Technotrash can by Greendisk.

    It's a box for any electronic trash that has all the recycling and shipping fees included in its purchase price. Total price is $30 for a 35lbs capacity box, or $40 for a 70lbs capacity one. Or you can get bundles and give them away as gifts to everyone. You can throw anything from CDs to videotapes to laptops to cell phones in there. When it's full, you close it up and ship it (for "free").

  44. Re:Every geek in the US needs one of these around. by deadstatue · · Score: 1

    stack them all together,drop a flourescent tube in the hole,got yourself a piece of art thats ready for its MoMA debut

  45. Cheat or hoax, you can *not* write to normal CDs by Dogtanian · · Score: 2, Interesting

    How it worked or whether it was a hoax is anyone's guess. If this was real, then I'm going with what one other user suggested; it wrote updates to the hard disk (or some other reusable medium). I saw software like this for the Amiga. And although it's a useful idea in the context of its time, it's misleading to suggest that this is actually writing to the CD itself.

    If that wasn't the case, I'm pretty sure it's a hoax. Why? Because commercial CDs aren't like CD-R/RW; the latter have crystalline layers that respond to heating changes from the laser to form reflective/non-reflective areas, the former are actually *stamped* with 3D pits and lands.

    Both reflect/deflect the reading laser beam in the same way (in most players), so the discs can be read in the same machines. However, there's no way you're going to *change* the contents of a stamped CD in anything like the same manner as you would with a CD-R. It's about as likely as a floppy disk drive's magnetic head being able to rewrite the grooves of a 7" vinyl single.

    In fact, you'd actually have to (somehow) melt or reconfigure the plastic of the CD itself, and since it was never designed for this, I've no idea how you'd do it accurately. It would likely be a horrifically expensive (and pointless) lab curiosity at best, and no-one in their right mind would try to market it in the face of CD-R.

    Hoax, hoax, hoaxy hoax....
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  46. use them to generate static electricity by jcgam69 · · Score: 1
  47. If they have M$ software on them by ninevoltz · · Score: 1

    Pass them around so everybody can install crappy software on their computer(s). After all, Microsoft WANTS you to pirate their crap.

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  48. Asterisk PBX CDs make good throwing stars by billstewart · · Score: 1

    The Asterisk open-source PBX is available on asterisk-shaped demo disks that you can pop into your PC to install a Linux OS and Asterisk PBX server software. It's not a perfect ninja star, but pretty good.

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  49. Is it worth it? by GWBasic · · Score: 1

    Something tells me that the value of the raw materials is much less then the cost to recycle. I bet the damage to the environment from TRANSPORTING the CDs to the recycling center is higher then the cost of chucking them in the trash.

  50. They make HORRIBLE coasters by VGfort · · Score: 1

    I've tried this, the moisture they get over is just spread onto your coffee table/desk Coasters need to be cork on top of a mesh plastic thing, I drink lots of ice water and I've even had some cork and wood coasters split over time

  51. Office Shredder by DogFacedJo · · Score: 1

    - the one near the Pointy-Hair'd VP's office.
    Which will jam.
    Then you can enjoy the inevitable company-wide memo.

    Bonus:
    New hires, even many years later, will be boggled by the 'No CDs or DVDs!' signs on all the shredders.

  52. Old CDs by pontifier · · Score: 1

    If the CD contains copyrighted music, video, game data, or text that someone might want in the future, keep it, even if it does not play. I'll tell you why later.

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  53. OLD CDS by Oshkoshjohn · · Score: 1

    Glue two disks together, shiny sides out. Then drill a hole through them at some point about one-quarter of an inch from the outer edge. Insert a Christmas ornament hanging hook into the drilled hole. Drill another hole about one-quarter of an inch from the inner rim. Using fishing line, attach a miniature Xmas ornament or any other reflective object to the original disks. Great for a geek Xmas tree, or perhaps an office cube wall, hanging from a short tinsel garland.

    Otherwise, cycle the cd-r's through a shredder, and toss the others into a landfill!

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  54. Can CDs Be Recycled? by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

    Of course. Like all plastic items they are made of petroleum and so burn quite well.

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