That's why REAL CoCo users ran Microware OS/9, which is still in existence and very useful, even today.
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Some conservatives are interesting and even educational to listen to. Rush is just boring. SSDD.
We have a newer station here in Denver supposedly devoted to "both-sides", KNRC AM 1150, owned by Phillip Anschutz, which has a number of liberal show hosts. They do have their content on their web page also... www.knrcradio.com. Greg Dobbs is hilarious, wake up most mornings listening to him ranting and raving about the Bush Administration. Sometimes it gets old hearing that same old schtick, but a few days away from it and it's entertaining again later.
As one of the black talk show hosts in Denver (Desi Cortez) pointed out - KNRC is mostly catering to white conservatives and liberals, and the experiences of other races are completely ignored. That's kinda sad, but Denver's a damn cow-town anyway.
And then there's AM 850 - KOA... owned by ClearChannel, of course. Their motto for themselves is "the 50,000 watt blowtorch of the Rockies", heard in 38 states at night. Desi's letter regarding KNRC also called KOA the 50,000 watt "flaming-cross" of the Rockies! LOL... funny stuff.
The only problem with flaming KOA is that Rick Barber, their very weird and intelligent super-late-night guy has been there far longer than ClearChannel and is beloved by many of us who've done late-night Western U.S. drives or worked late-night jobs... he's great. Him and his decade-long sponsor, Sam Taylor's BBQ! (Which really is tasty, by the way... but don't take my word for it... http://denver.citysearch.com/profile/1862008/).
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If you'd have added a cron job to shut down the recording process during Rush Limbaugh... it would have been even better, and saved hard disk space!
If we had speech-to-text capability, Limbaugh would compress nicely though... very little unique content.;-)
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You have awakened the Spirit of the Great Bill Joy. Please prepare for the consequences...
(Bill, of course, is alive and well and hanging out in Aspen, CO last I heard. Probably figuring out the next interesting way to make a few more million bucks...)
5 years from now the only system in use could be [thisNewSystem], leaving you looking not just like a betamax weenie, but like a betamax weenie without any tapes...
Take a good close look at the computer you're sitting at. Same problem. Who cares? Those who are going to buy the current technology are going to buy it and enjoy it, those who are afraid it will be supersceded by something else, like yourself, won't either buy it or enjoy it.
Maybe it's a problem if you want that functionality, sure. I'm a command-liner... I don't drag and drop widgets or pictures or anything like that.
If I want to copy pictures I fire up cp. Other than the occasional right click on a picture and saving it from Konq to a file, and that's about it.
Text copy and paste is quite fine, thanks.;-) Not having the more Windows/Mac-like widget stuff hasn't bothered me much.
And in the cases where it's kinda nifty (fish:// protocol in Konq is dang cool) I like it but I don't need it. scp user@machine:/path/file/localpath works just as well or faster.
This is not cut and paste. It is selection mechanism.
Gee that's funny, I see stuff, I highlight it, I manage to copy it to another place on the screen... that pretty much looks like "copy and paste" to me.
In fact, I used it to quote you above.
What's this hooey about it being a "selection mechanism"? I can do more than just select with it.
I had some trouble with that for a while too -- until I learned to do it what at first seemed to be "backwards". Delete what you're going to delete FIRST. Then go highlight what you want to copy and paste it in.
The other habit is just built up from doing it with the CNTL key, I think.
There's really no "right" or "wrong" way of doing it, and the original poster's concern was that X isn't "consistent" enough.
I do know the middle-mouse paste maybe isn't the ideal solution, but it has been around as long as the other one... people seem to like the other one which takes more fingers and more movement, once you get used to doing it the X way.
Dunno, maybe I'm just really used to it.
I was happy to find that even PuTTY, a windows-based ssh client, handles middle mouse buttons (or simulated ones with both buttons pressed) with aplomb. Makes it so that when I'm working at the command line via SSH from even a Windows machine, I enjoy it.
(Just the PuTTY part and flight simulators, mind you! And I'm looking to replace my Windows/Flight Sim addiction with FlightGear, which happily runs on Linux.)
Actually in true X, copy and paste is very consistent - highlight any text and then focus the window you want to paste into and hit the middle mouse button. Works in just about every app out there, and definitely should CONTINUE to do so.
The fact that: a) Many machines don't have a middle mouse button, so we have to deal with emulating it with the other two pressed at the same time...
b) Desktop architectures like Gnome and KDE try to mimic Windows silly CTRL-C, CTRL-X, CTRL-V stuff AND give right-click context menus with "Cut", "Copy" and "Paste" just like Windows...... make up the irregularities.
Get a real three-button mouse and do it the "old-fashioned" way and forget about the silly CTRL key for this job. You'll like it - once you get used to it people wonder how the heck you're pasting stuff without touching the keyboard. Fun to watch their reactions to it if they're really paying that much attention as they look over your shoulder.
Any app or "desktop" that breaks this older tried-and-true functionality I throw out on its butt as soon as I find a replacement.
Most of us probably value the Freedom of Speech and the lack of censorship more than we want a censor app built into the system.
Teach your 2 year old proper values as he is growing up and he'll be able to make the same (or more likely, different but similar) value judgements you are making. If you shelter him from it, he'll just seek it out out of natural curiosity about what Dad's so freaked out about anyway.
I'd be proud of any 2 year old who could read Slashdot anyway, even if the content might have to be explained by their loving parent.
I'm not that old either, but I have a piece of core memory lying around here somewhere that someone gave to me and I also can Google, and I can assure you - the ferrite donuts (cores) don't move.
I think this calls for a plonk! and an STFW.
It's electromagnetic changes, silly -- just like today's RAM, only much much much bigger and with stranger problems. (Like core heating due to the resistance of the wires and other fun stuff.)
I don't know what kind of office this guy works in, but my office is limping along on 50 or so Pentium II's. Lame, but true stories from Dilbert-land...
Why in a *supposedly* "Techo-savvy" crowd like Slashdot does no one ever point out to these case-modding zealouts that 99% of the case mods out there screw up the ability of the case to keep unwanted stray RF created by the device(s) inside the box *in* the box? Or for that matter from outside RF from entering it?
You'd think with all the WiFi, Bluetooth, wireless weather stations, cordless phones that cost more than your 1983 AT&T/Bell System long-distance bill, and other wireless cheesy goodness this supposedly technologically advanced crowd would use........... that someone would point out that most case mods using plexiglass turn your average high-speed processor and motherboard into a giant interference creation device for ones other properly-engineered RF toys.
Show us a nice big hunk of metal with a huge ground strap type of case-modding goodness for an X-Box that would allow you to see virtually nothing on a good quality spectrum analyzer sitting right next to it while you're playing the heaviest CPU hitting game you can muster -- and the real geeks will be impressed.
Pretty LED's and blinky lights are for the Marketing department, kids.
Useless information without a reference to how much it actually costs to live there. If you can live on $3 a day in relative comfort, the $3 number is meaningless.
When's everyone going to figure out "linux is linux"? Packages, schmackages. Debian's unstable release has over 11,000 "packages". Who cares? I use it and it's nice on a completely unstable desktop machine -- but for production and doing real work for the boss? Never. Stable with backports if necessary is the way to go.
What counts in ANY Linux/Unix deployment for BUSINESS is a well-designed, well-engineered solution to whatever problem you're working on.
Debian, Fedora, Linux from Scratch, any of those can be used to build such a thing.
With all other things being equal, why not go with the "product" that has history, tons of documentation, and a good track record of quality instead of the unknown.
No good engineer picks the unknown over the known entity unless they're in a design/creation/test phase.
Of course, the CoCo 1 with the chicklet keyboard was my first beast... those were the days. And OS/9 (Microware's) is still around... and still works better than most OS's.
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That's why REAL CoCo users ran Microware OS/9, which is still in existence and very useful, even today.
Some conservatives are interesting and even educational to listen to. Rush is just boring. SSDD.
We have a newer station here in Denver supposedly devoted to "both-sides", KNRC AM 1150, owned by Phillip Anschutz, which has a number of liberal show hosts. They do have their content on their web page also... www.knrcradio.com. Greg Dobbs is hilarious, wake up most mornings listening to him ranting and raving about the Bush Administration. Sometimes it gets old hearing that same old schtick, but a few days away from it and it's entertaining again later.
As one of the black talk show hosts in Denver (Desi Cortez) pointed out - KNRC is mostly catering to white conservatives and liberals, and the experiences of other races are completely ignored. That's kinda sad, but Denver's a damn cow-town anyway.
And then there's AM 850 - KOA... owned by ClearChannel, of course. Their motto for themselves is "the 50,000 watt blowtorch of the Rockies", heard in 38 states at night. Desi's letter regarding KNRC also called KOA the 50,000 watt "flaming-cross" of the Rockies! LOL... funny stuff.
The only problem with flaming KOA is that Rick Barber, their very weird and intelligent super-late-night guy has been there far longer than ClearChannel and is beloved by many of us who've done late-night Western U.S. drives or worked late-night jobs... he's great. Him and his decade-long sponsor, Sam Taylor's BBQ! (Which really is tasty, by the way... but don't take my word for it... http://denver.citysearch.com/profile/1862008/).
?Sacrifices must be made.? - Otto Lilienthal
If you'd have added a cron job to shut down the recording process during Rush Limbaugh... it would have been even better, and saved hard disk space!
;-)
If we had speech-to-text capability, Limbaugh would compress nicely though... very little unique content.
You have awakened the Spirit of the Great Bill Joy. Please prepare for the consequences...
(Bill, of course, is alive and well and hanging out in Aspen, CO last I heard. Probably figuring out the next interesting way to make a few more million bucks...)
5 years from now the only system in use could be [thisNewSystem], leaving you looking not just like a betamax weenie, but like a betamax weenie without any tapes...
Take a good close look at the computer you're sitting at. Same problem. Who cares? Those who are going to buy the current technology are going to buy it and enjoy it, those who are afraid it will be supersceded by something else, like yourself, won't either buy it or enjoy it.
LOL. That deserves a +1 Insightful if I ever saw one! :-)
Maybe it's a problem if you want that functionality, sure. I'm a command-liner... I don't drag and drop widgets or pictures or anything like that.
;-) Not having the more Windows/Mac-like widget stuff hasn't bothered me much.
/localpath works just as well or faster.
If I want to copy pictures I fire up cp. Other than the occasional right click on a picture and saving it from Konq to a file, and that's about it.
Text copy and paste is quite fine, thanks.
And in the cases where it's kinda nifty (fish:// protocol in Konq is dang cool) I like it but I don't need it. scp user@machine:/path/file
Gee that's funny, I see stuff, I highlight it, I manage to copy it to another place on the screen... that pretty much looks like "copy and paste" to me.
In fact, I used it to quote you above.
What's this hooey about it being a "selection mechanism"? I can do more than just select with it.
I had some trouble with that for a while too -- until I learned to do it what at first seemed to be "backwards". Delete what you're going to delete FIRST. Then go highlight what you want to copy and paste it in.
The other habit is just built up from doing it with the CNTL key, I think.
There's really no "right" or "wrong" way of doing it, and the original poster's concern was that X isn't "consistent" enough.
I do know the middle-mouse paste maybe isn't the ideal solution, but it has been around as long as the other one... people seem to like the other one which takes more fingers and more movement, once you get used to doing it the X way.
Dunno, maybe I'm just really used to it.
I was happy to find that even PuTTY, a windows-based ssh client, handles middle mouse buttons (or simulated ones with both buttons pressed) with aplomb. Makes it so that when I'm working at the command line via SSH from even a Windows machine, I enjoy it.
(Just the PuTTY part and flight simulators, mind you! And I'm looking to replace my Windows/Flight Sim addiction with FlightGear, which happily runs on Linux.)
I for one, welcome our new Depressed Microprocessor Overlords!
(Aww damn it, I couldn't resist.)
Can you imagine creating a Beowulf cluster of Depressed Microprocessors!?
(Help, I've fallen and I can't get up!)
Actually in true X, copy and paste is very consistent - highlight any text and then focus the window you want to paste into and hit the middle mouse button. Works in just about every app out there, and definitely should CONTINUE to do so.
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... make up the irregularities.
The fact that
a) Many machines don't have a middle mouse button, so we have to deal with emulating it with the other two pressed at the same time...
b) Desktop architectures like Gnome and KDE try to mimic Windows silly CTRL-C, CTRL-X, CTRL-V stuff AND give right-click context menus with "Cut", "Copy" and "Paste" just like Windows...
Get a real three-button mouse and do it the "old-fashioned" way and forget about the silly CTRL key for this job. You'll like it - once you get used to it people wonder how the heck you're pasting stuff without touching the keyboard. Fun to watch their reactions to it if they're really paying that much attention as they look over your shoulder.
Any app or "desktop" that breaks this older tried-and-true functionality I throw out on its butt as soon as I find a replacement.
Most of us probably value the Freedom of Speech and the lack of censorship more than we want a censor app built into the system.
Teach your 2 year old proper values as he is growing up and he'll be able to make the same (or more likely, different but similar) value judgements you are making. If you shelter him from it, he'll just seek it out out of natural curiosity about what Dad's so freaked out about anyway.
I'd be proud of any 2 year old who could read Slashdot anyway, even if the content might have to be explained by their loving parent.
He (and you) will be fine.
I'm not that old either, but I have a piece of core memory lying around here somewhere that someone gave to me and I also can Google, and I can assure you - the ferrite donuts (cores) don't move.
I think this calls for a plonk! and an STFW.
It's electromagnetic changes, silly -- just like today's RAM, only much much much bigger and with stranger problems. (Like core heating due to the resistance of the wires and other fun stuff.)
Didn't you hear? Linux isn't ready for the desktop!
Your server disto people say so!
It's also available on Dish Network you dolt.
Oh someone just go benchmark the differences and then let people decide what they want to use. Sheesh.
I don't know what kind of office this guy works in, but my office is limping along on 50 or so Pentium II's. Lame, but true stories from Dilbert-land...
Why in a *supposedly* "Techo-savvy" crowd like Slashdot does no one ever point out to these case-modding zealouts that 99% of the case mods out there screw up the ability of the case to keep unwanted stray RF created by the device(s) inside the box *in* the box? Or for that matter from outside RF from entering it?
....... .... that someone would point out that most case mods using plexiglass turn your average high-speed processor and motherboard into a giant interference creation device for ones other properly-engineered RF toys.
You'd think with all the WiFi, Bluetooth, wireless weather stations, cordless phones that cost more than your 1983 AT&T/Bell System long-distance bill, and other wireless cheesy goodness this supposedly technologically advanced crowd would use
Show us a nice big hunk of metal with a huge ground strap type of case-modding goodness for an X-Box that would allow you to see virtually nothing on a good quality spectrum analyzer sitting right next to it while you're playing the heaviest CPU hitting game you can muster -- and the real geeks will be impressed.
Pretty LED's and blinky lights are for the Marketing department, kids.
You use X on a production server machine? I hope not.
STABLE means just that. Any fully integrated desktop environment still releasing multiple releases a year is NOT STABLE.
Useless information without a reference to how much it actually costs to live there. If you can live on $3 a day in relative comfort, the $3 number is meaningless.
But he posted as an AC, so we'll never know...
When's everyone going to figure out "linux is linux"? Packages, schmackages. Debian's unstable release has over 11,000 "packages". Who cares? I use it and it's nice on a completely unstable desktop machine -- but for production and doing real work for the boss? Never. Stable with backports if necessary is the way to go.
What counts in ANY Linux/Unix deployment for BUSINESS is a well-designed, well-engineered solution to whatever problem you're working on.
Debian, Fedora, Linux from Scratch, any of those can be used to build such a thing.
With all other things being equal, why not go with the "product" that has history, tons of documentation, and a good track record of quality instead of the unknown.
No good engineer picks the unknown over the known entity unless they're in a design/creation/test phase.
You're not.
.deb for yourself and quit whining.
First, build a
Second, become a maintainer and upload it.
Sheesh... why is it that everyone thinks someone ELSE should do everything for them?
Don't like Debian? Fix it. There is NOTHING stopping you or anyone else. The sooner it's REALLY stable the sooner it gets labeled so.
Welcome to software Freedom... enjoy.
CoCo Forever! :-)
Of course, the CoCo 1 with the chicklet keyboard was my first beast... those were the days. And OS/9 (Microware's) is still around... and still works better than most OS's.
Like what, watching "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" or something equally enlightening on Fox?
I'd say he has a life. At least he's learning something from his hobby.
Although I disagree that 1.2GHz and 2.4GHz are "wacky" bands... heh.