I called every phone number I could find for these people - four of them, actually. No help, because the phone numbers they provided didn't work or went to the wrong person.
OK, so we should feel sorry for masslinux, because the ISP took their money (or someone did) and shut off their service anyway, and then they didn't have money to pay the ISP again.
What about all the people hosting websites through masslinux, who took our money, and shut off service (involuntarily) with no notice or explanation after the fact (voluntary), and the people with the websites don't have enough money to pay another ISP.
If you're going to say shame on people for criticizing masslinux, then shame on masslinux for doing, essentially, the same thing their ISP did.
OK, you know, I reread my comment and I think I need to clarify something.
I said that they deserved to get flamed, if someone flamed them, which I still think is partly true. I do understand how much it must utterly SUCK to have had three checks cashed and not get credit for them (hey, I've had to deal with NSI;)), and I don't blame them for the fact that their ISP acted in a stupid manner. I feel sorry for them, on that count. They shouldn't get the flack for their ISP being dumb.
But there was an opportunity after they were cut off for them to act in a responsible and professional manner towards their paying customers, and they failed, repeatedly, to take that opportunity. Instead of stepping forward and explaining the situation right away (even through a story on/.), they let rumors fly and people were left hanging for a week before we even saw a question on/. They should have sent email and let their customers know what was going on. That's where I feel masslinux was way in the wrong, and I feel that the customers deserved a contact address that worked way before now - 2 weeks after the fact.
Well folks, thats the whole story...Masslinux is sorry That's what Todd Lauder has to say. I don't know, at this point, I think a little grovelling is in order - but then again, I don't suppose they care anymore, because they don't have any customers left, because they're not coming back. They say they're going to refund the money, but given that they haven't even bothered to personally contact their customers yet, I'm not keeping my fingers crossed. Todd didn't feel comfortable giving out his email because he was afraid he'd get flamed. Well, I wouldn't flame him, but I do want to know what the hell is up when I'm paying someone for a service and that service is cut off. And if he (or anyone else related to masslinux) gets flamed, well, can anyone at this point say they don't deserve it?
That's true. I guess my first thoughts were of computer people because it said "Net Person of the Year" and that's what comes to mind.
It's partly a knee-jerk reaction against people like Bezos, who are getting all the mainstream credit for all this "wonderful internet stuff" when in fact they're just standing on the shoulders of the people who actually create and develop and further "the Internet".
Obviously, Bezos wouldn't even come close to my list. But there are so many people, it's hard to narrow it down.
How about the creators of Apache, whose webserver put a lot of the web into being? Or, as Katz mentioned, Jon Postel, who fought for the 'net to stay free? Or Linus Torvalds, or the BSD guys, or RMS, who have all provided free tools to help people get servers up and running and make themselves heard around the world? And especially all the developers who have put in countless hours making these Open Source projects work - you all are keeping the 'net free for everyone. Good job.
Without knowing more about all these talks and nondisclosure agreements, it's hard to say who's "right" about this whole issue. If priceline.com didn't *really* come up with the idea themselves, well, then, this whole thing is ludicrous. If they did, I suppose someone would argue that patents are there for a reason, etc.
Personally, I still think patents on software are out of control. Someone, somehow, *really* needs to step in and put a leash on the USPTO. As someone in another comment pointed out, this is a ridiculous patent in the first place! The idea of naming one's price is far from original, and the method isn't, or shouldn't, be patentable. How many more of these battles are we going to have to watch? How many patents are they going to give out before they realize that they're crippling internet/software development instead of encouraging it?
All these companies are carving out their little niches, stealing or borrowing obvious ideas, putting patents on them, and trying to create monopolies for themselves. I don't know about you, but that's *just* what I wanted to see from the Internet.:P
As the article points out, the moon will still be at perigee (closest point in its orbit to the Earth) and it will be about 19% brighter than usual. To most of the people (who have received this email, and I know I've gotten it seven times so far) looking at the moon, this will not make a big difference. Full moons are always bright, and so they might *think* it's a lot brighter and then not bother to look next month to compare. Personally I observe the moon every month (leftover habit from astronomy classes) and I have noticed the slight difference, but yeah, it doesn't merit the bandwidth that's been wasted on this.
I still think it's neat to have a full moon on the Winter Solstice, though:)
Honestly, it's not a huge surprise that CNN has posted a story that's worded this way. I mean, first of all, they probably get ad dollars from eToys.com. And second, what, did you think the mainstream press would defend some artsy-fartsy freak group, so offensive to blue-collar America? I mean, hello... etoy.com had the work "fuck" on their page! *gasp* Quick, someone get the smelling salts!
There are many, many things that annoyed me about this CNN article. Here's a short list:
1) They did not mention that etoy.com was registered two YEARS before eToys.com. The wording makes it sound like etoy.com was just playing off the popularity of eToys.com, which is not the case.
2) CRACKERS, not HACKERS! For crying out loud! How many times can they get this wrong? Isn't there something we could do to get these reporters a clue? crackers Crackers CRACKERS!
3) OK, so someone posted eToys.com's IP address on the web. Oh nooo, Mr. Bill! God FORBID anyone should do that! As we all know, nameservers don't do that kind of thing every day. IPs are not meant to be seen by the general public! All them thar numbers and dots, those could mean *anything*!
Oh, and as for those "proprietary" defenses being used by eToys: why am I not surprised that these people would take from the Open Source community and then not even be willing to disclose new (if they are new) ways of warding off attackers? Yeah, OK, I understand that this might make them more vulnerable, but then again.... well, we all know the good arguments for sharing information, so I won't rehash those.
All in all, it's no more than I expected from CNN - but I would like to see the bar raised on these types of "mainstream technical" articles.
Well, I was buying a *lot* of things at amazon.com until I heard about this. I hadn't experienced the spamazon.com effect, and did not learn about that until after I'd stopped shopping there anyway.
I probably bought something there twice a month, usually books, but my VCR was purchased through amazon.com, so I'd say I've spent a good deal of money there over the nearly 3 years I've been shopping at their site.
I'm boycotting amazon.com, sure. I wrote them a letter and told them why (and received Canned Reply for my efforts). But what amazon is doing is a symptom of the problem - they are not the problem itself. My goal in boycotting them is to get them to realize what it is they're doing and turn around and make a point about software patents.
Obviously what is needed is some serious reform at the USPTO level. They're giving out software patents left and right for things that are obvious, things where there's tons of prior art, etc etc. How do we get them to stop doing this? I know that the intent of patents is to encourage innovation, but I think it's obvious (and this case has been made hundreds of times) that patents do *not* help software development, mainly because of the way the USPTO goes about issuing them.
So, I *will* boycott amazon.com, and I think it will help if more people do so (and tell amazon why), but I don't think it's a good idea to stop there if you want to see software patent reforms.
My canned response was slightly different, although still from Erik J. Macki. Maybe they aren't reading them but I at least hope they are keeping count. I've spent a looot of money at amazon.com over the years but that stopped (and *just* in time for holiday shopping, too) recently.
I won't shop bn.com because of a) their Microsofted-ness and b) their nasty tactics in the bricks-and-mortar world. I do buy books from fatbrain.com but unfortunately they don't carry all the books I'd like to buy. Powells usually does not have any type of discount on the books I want. So it looks like it's borders.com for me - any dirt on them that I should know about before I buy there?
Here is the response I got from amazon.com:
Thank you for taking the time to share your views with us. Not surprisingly, we have received a variety of reactions from customers about the preliminary injunction awarded to Amazon.com in its patent infringement lawsuit against barnesandnoble.com.
Because the case is still pending, we are unable to discuss the specifics of this litigation. As a general matter, however, we agree with United States District Judge Marsha J. Pechman's ruling that "granting Amazon.com's preliminary injunction will serve the public interest" in part because "protection of intellectual property rights in innovations will foster greater competition and innovation." To that end, Amazon.com will certainly continue innovating on behalf of its customers.
We appreciate feedback from customers about this lawsuit and other important issues concerning Amazon.com, and we carefully consider all viewpoints expressed. We hope you will continue to let us know how we can improve our service to customers.
Best regards,
Erik J. Macki Happy Holidays from Amazon.com Earth's Biggest Selection http://www.amazon.com ============================== Check your order and more! http://www.amazon.com/your-account Have questions? We've got answers! http://www.amazon.com/help
No fair! I logged in when I posted the comment about making $41K/year starting out in Columbus. (And it said I was logged in on the preview page.) *sigh*
Anyway, I just wanted to clarify that it was lyonsj making that post, otherwise it might be kind of confusing.
The average starting salary for a programmer in Ohio seems to be from US$40-45K/year. I'd suggest avoiding public universities here - the pay seems to hit US$40K only after you've been there for 10 years!
Hm, well, this comment is a little late;) but I just wanted to point out that the Ainu are not yet gone. Their practices are becoming more and more adapted to modern ways, and there are few members of the race remaining, but I just watched a Nova special on them last week. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/hokkaido/
Now if only Mononoke Hime were playing at a theatre near me... *pout*
I mean, I guess the funny part is that you can log in as webmaster@whatever.com (dotcom.com or whatever they're calling it). But I think everyone knows by now that mail coming from, say, slashdot@dotcommail.com (or whatever) is not going to be valid.
This is not to say that I'm not extremely ticked off at NSI. I think they've made a more than serious blunder here. Total stupidity.
But he did explain his objection to filling out the form again, and I think that objection is a valid one. First of all, I think e*trade is vaguely full of shit on this one. I mean, why bother screening people at *all* if you don't bother to check that the information is true? If it matters so little, then why exclude people in the first place? He mentions in the article that he wants to win this battle on his own ground, as himself. I wouldn't want to pretend to be a millionaire either. What, you can only invest in IPOs if you're either rich or a liar? Wonderful! I would venture to say he's not a jerk, but a justifiably angry person.
And Kennywood's cheaper. Although they are up to (I think) $21.95 for ride all day on weekends, it's still only $17.95 weekdays. Of course, I still think that *paying* to get into an amusement park is weird. I grew up five minutes from Kennywood; my dad works there and I worked there for two years (in Lost Kennywood) so I've never paid to get in. As I pointed out earlier, I think Kennywood is much nicer than Cedar Point. I've not been to both parks with anyone who disagrees, either. Of course, I'm probably partial -- not only did I grow up there, I'm getting married there next fall. (No, not on a ride...) If you can get it, check out Kennywood Memories (a PBS show) or Great Old Amusement Parks (which I haven't seen yet but supposedly features Kennywood as well as Cedar Point and others). I think GAOP is on PBS this Sunday at 5am;)
Thank you, paled. I'm sorry, but Kennywood kicks Cedar Point's butt any day. I'm half scared to go on the rides at Cedar Point -- the grounds aren't nearly as well maintained and the rides are sometimes in poor shape at least by sight. Example - whatever that roller coaster is that's inside a building and works like a water slide. Looks like they just got tired of keeping it up so they removed half of the pretense of the stupid thing and gave it 1/4 of the staff. Nothing like walking through what looks like an abandoned buliding but is obviously supposed to tell a story, boarding your train, getting off at the other end and hearing "Welcome to Alaska". I'm sure there's some REASON they say you're in Alaska, but it's not part of the ride anymore.
No, see, I don't *care* that they posted the story about the Onion. It just seems to me that if you can post about the return of the Onion, you could make a mention of the moon landing, as well, you know? What could you say about it? Well, apparently, 50% of Americans can't even name the first two people on the moon. So you could point that out. Or you could use it as sort of a "launch pad" to post another link to current spaceflight events. As in, "30 years after the moon landing, we're...". Like I said, I like the Onion. I think it's funny, I bought the book and everything. I just don't think that its return is any more significant than the anniversary of the moon landing. Obviously you all (referring to all posts below as well) disagree, and that's OK. Just (guy below this) don't tell me I have a pole up my ass.
OK, don't get me wrong. I really, really like the Onion. But they've had a sign up since the *last* issue came out that they'd be back on July 21. Do we really need/. to tell us about it? Meanwhile, today is the 30th anniversary of the moon landing... and nothing has been mentioned on/., at least not yet. Yes, maybe anyone who already cares would know that it's the moon landing anniversary, but anyone who cares about the Onion would've known they'd be back today. Quite frankly I've lost a lot of respect for/. over this. Come on,/., even the Onion recognizes the importance of the moon landing in their book, devoting a full page to it (along with the headline "Holy F***ing Sh**, Man Lands on F***ing Moon").
Frankly, I'm kind of surprised that it's not MORE than 13%. I know that personally, I'd rather read web pages and learn things than watch TV, usually. I used to really like PBS, Discovery Channel, and TLC, but lately the latter two have been showing "TRAUMA! LIFE IN THE ER" about fifteen times a day, along with "wedding" and "baby story". And the PBS station here is mostly kids' programming and only has interesting science-y stuff 2 or 3 times a week. Why would I put up with having to follow someone else's schedule when I can find all the information I would get from TV and more whenever I want it? Yay, fast connections!
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I called every phone number I could find for these people - four of them, actually. No help, because the phone numbers they provided didn't work or went to the wrong person.
Trust me, the customers were totally in the dark.
OK, so we should feel sorry for masslinux, because the ISP took their money (or someone did) and shut off their service anyway, and then they didn't have money to pay the ISP again.
What about all the people hosting websites through masslinux, who took our money, and shut off service (involuntarily) with no notice or explanation after the fact (voluntary), and the people with the websites don't have enough money to pay another ISP.
If you're going to say shame on people for criticizing masslinux, then shame on masslinux for doing, essentially, the same thing their ISP did.
OK, you know, I reread my comment and I think I need to clarify something.
;)), and I don't blame them for the fact that their ISP acted in a stupid manner. I feel sorry for them, on that count. They shouldn't get the flack for their ISP being dumb.
/.), they let rumors fly and people were left hanging for a week before we even saw a question on /. They should have sent email and let their customers know what was going on. That's where I feel masslinux was way in the wrong, and I feel that the customers deserved a contact address that worked way before now - 2 weeks after the fact.
I said that they deserved to get flamed, if someone flamed them, which I still think is partly true. I do understand how much it must utterly SUCK to have had three checks cashed and not get credit for them (hey, I've had to deal with NSI
But there was an opportunity after they were cut off for them to act in a responsible and professional manner towards their paying customers, and they failed, repeatedly, to take that opportunity. Instead of stepping forward and explaining the situation right away (even through a story on
Well folks, thats the whole story ...Masslinux is sorry That's what Todd Lauder has to say. I don't know, at this point, I think a little grovelling is in order - but then again, I don't suppose they care anymore, because they don't have any customers left, because they're not coming back. They say they're going to refund the money, but given that they haven't even bothered to personally contact their customers yet, I'm not keeping my fingers crossed. Todd didn't feel comfortable giving out his email because he was afraid he'd get flamed. Well, I wouldn't flame him, but I do want to know what the hell is up when I'm paying someone for a service and that service is cut off. And if he (or anyone else related to masslinux) gets flamed, well, can anyone at this point say they don't deserve it?
What, now you want a Celebrity Deathmatch out of it, too?
That's true. I guess my first thoughts were of computer people because it said "Net Person of the Year" and that's what comes to mind.
It's partly a knee-jerk reaction against people like Bezos, who are getting all the mainstream credit for all this "wonderful internet stuff" when in fact they're just standing on the shoulders of the people who actually create and develop and further "the Internet".
Hey, that's a good idea! I've got four hardcopies of my checklists right now, sitting at home waiting for the rollover. Blech.
At least I get paid for it, eh?
Obviously, Bezos wouldn't even come close to my list. But there are so many people, it's hard to narrow it down.
How about the creators of Apache, whose webserver put a lot of the web into being?
Or, as Katz mentioned, Jon Postel, who fought for the 'net to stay free?
Or Linus Torvalds, or the BSD guys, or RMS, who have all provided free tools to help people get servers up and running and make themselves heard around the world?
And especially all the developers who have put in countless hours making these Open Source projects work - you all are keeping the 'net free for everyone. Good job.
Without knowing more about all these talks and nondisclosure agreements, it's hard to say who's "right" about this whole issue. If priceline.com didn't *really* come up with the idea themselves, well, then, this whole thing is ludicrous. If they did, I suppose someone would argue that patents are there for a reason, etc.
:P
Personally, I still think patents on software are out of control. Someone, somehow, *really* needs to step in and put a leash on the USPTO. As someone in another comment pointed out, this is a ridiculous patent in the first place! The idea of naming one's price is far from original, and the method isn't, or shouldn't, be patentable. How many more of these battles are we going to have to watch? How many patents are they going to give out before they realize that they're crippling internet/software development instead of encouraging it?
All these companies are carving out their little niches, stealing or borrowing obvious ideas, putting patents on them, and trying to create monopolies for themselves. I don't know about you, but that's *just* what I wanted to see from the Internet.
As the article points out, the moon will still be at perigee (closest point in its orbit to the Earth) and it will be about 19% brighter than usual. To most of the people (who have received this email, and I know I've gotten it seven times so far) looking at the moon, this will not make a big difference. Full moons are always bright, and so they might *think* it's a lot brighter and then not bother to look next month to compare. Personally I observe the moon every month (leftover habit from astronomy classes) and I have noticed the slight difference, but yeah, it doesn't merit the bandwidth that's been wasted on this.
:)
I still think it's neat to have a full moon on the Winter Solstice, though
Honestly, it's not a huge surprise that CNN has posted a story that's worded this way. I mean, first of all, they probably get ad dollars from eToys.com. And second, what, did you think the mainstream press would defend some artsy-fartsy freak group, so offensive to blue-collar America? I mean, hello... etoy.com had the work "fuck" on their page! *gasp* Quick, someone get the smelling salts!
There are many, many things that annoyed me about this CNN article. Here's a short list:
1) They did not mention that etoy.com was registered two YEARS before eToys.com. The wording makes it sound like etoy.com was just playing off the popularity of eToys.com, which is not the case.
2) CRACKERS, not HACKERS! For crying out loud! How many times can they get this wrong? Isn't there something we could do to get these reporters a clue? crackers Crackers CRACKERS!
3) OK, so someone posted eToys.com's IP address on the web. Oh nooo, Mr. Bill! God FORBID anyone should do that! As we all know, nameservers don't do that kind of thing every day. IPs are not meant to be seen by the general public! All them thar numbers and dots, those could mean *anything*!
Oh, and as for those "proprietary" defenses being used by eToys: why am I not surprised that these people would take from the Open Source community and then not even be willing to disclose new (if they are new) ways of warding off attackers? Yeah, OK, I understand that this might make them more vulnerable, but then again.... well, we all know the good arguments for sharing information, so I won't rehash those.
All in all, it's no more than I expected from CNN - but I would like to see the bar raised on these types of "mainstream technical" articles.
Well, I was buying a *lot* of things at amazon.com until I heard about this. I hadn't experienced the spamazon.com effect, and did not learn about that until after I'd stopped shopping there anyway.
I probably bought something there twice a month, usually books, but my VCR was purchased through amazon.com, so I'd say I've spent a good deal of money there over the nearly 3 years I've been shopping at their site.
So, there may be geeks that still shop there....
I'm boycotting amazon.com, sure. I wrote them a letter and told them why (and received Canned Reply for my efforts). But what amazon is doing is a symptom of the problem - they are not the problem itself. My goal in boycotting them is to get them to realize what it is they're doing and turn around and make a point about software patents.
Obviously what is needed is some serious reform at the USPTO level. They're giving out software patents left and right for things that are obvious, things where there's tons of prior art, etc etc. How do we get them to stop doing this? I know that the intent of patents is to encourage innovation, but I think it's obvious (and this case has been made hundreds of times) that patents do *not* help software development, mainly because of the way the USPTO goes about issuing them.
So, I *will* boycott amazon.com, and I think it will help if more people do so (and tell amazon why), but I don't think it's a good idea to stop there if you want to see software patent reforms.
My canned response was slightly different, although still from Erik J. Macki. Maybe they aren't reading them but I at least hope they are keeping count. I've spent a looot of money at amazon.com over the years but that stopped (and *just* in time for holiday shopping, too) recently.
I won't shop bn.com because of a) their Microsofted-ness and b) their nasty tactics in the bricks-and-mortar world. I do buy books from fatbrain.com but unfortunately they don't carry all the books I'd like to buy. Powells usually does not have any type of discount on the books I want. So it looks like it's borders.com for me - any dirt on them that I should know about before I buy there?
Here is the response I got from amazon.com:
Thank you for taking the time to share your views with us. Not
surprisingly, we have received a variety of reactions from customers
about the preliminary injunction awarded to Amazon.com in its patent
infringement lawsuit against barnesandnoble.com.
Because the case is still pending, we are unable to discuss the
specifics of this litigation. As a general matter, however, we agree
with United States District Judge Marsha J. Pechman's ruling that
"granting Amazon.com's preliminary injunction will serve the public
interest" in part because "protection of intellectual property rights
in innovations will foster greater competition and innovation." To
that end, Amazon.com will certainly continue innovating on behalf of
its customers.
We appreciate feedback from customers about this lawsuit and other
important issues concerning Amazon.com, and we carefully consider all
viewpoints expressed. We hope you will continue to let us know how we
can improve our service to customers.
Best regards,
Erik J. Macki
Happy Holidays from Amazon.com
Earth's Biggest Selection
http://www.amazon.com
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No fair! I logged in when I posted the comment about making $41K/year starting out in Columbus. (And it said I was logged in on the preview page.) *sigh*
Anyway, I just wanted to clarify that it was lyonsj making that post, otherwise it might be kind of confusing.
The average starting salary for a programmer in Ohio seems to be from US$40-45K/year. I'd suggest avoiding public universities here - the pay seems to hit US$40K only after you've been there for 10 years!
Hm, well, this comment is a little late ;) but I just wanted to point out that the Ainu are not yet gone. Their practices are becoming more and more adapted to modern ways, and there are few members of the race remaining, but I just watched a Nova special on them last week.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/hokkaido/
Now if only Mononoke Hime were playing at a theatre near me... *pout*
I mean, I guess the funny part is that you can log in as webmaster@whatever.com (dotcom.com or whatever they're calling it). But I think everyone knows by now that mail coming from, say, slashdot@dotcommail.com (or whatever) is not going to be valid.
This is not to say that I'm not extremely ticked off at NSI. I think they've made a more than serious blunder here. Total stupidity.
But he did explain his objection to filling out the form again, and I think that objection is a valid one.
First of all, I think e*trade is vaguely full of shit on this one. I mean, why bother screening people at *all* if you don't bother to check that the information is true? If it matters so little, then why exclude people in the first place?
He mentions in the article that he wants to win this battle on his own ground, as himself. I wouldn't want to pretend to be a millionaire either. What, you can only invest in IPOs if you're either rich or a liar? Wonderful!
I would venture to say he's not a jerk, but a justifiably angry person.
And Kennywood's cheaper. Although they are up to (I think) $21.95 for ride all day on weekends, it's still only $17.95 weekdays. Of course, I still think that *paying* to get into an amusement park is weird. I grew up five minutes from Kennywood; my dad works there and I worked there for two years (in Lost Kennywood) so I've never paid to get in. ;)
As I pointed out earlier, I think Kennywood is much nicer than Cedar Point. I've not been to both parks with anyone who disagrees, either. Of course, I'm probably partial -- not only did I grow up there, I'm getting married there next fall. (No, not on a ride...)
If you can get it, check out Kennywood Memories (a PBS show) or Great Old Amusement Parks (which I haven't seen yet but supposedly features Kennywood as well as Cedar Point and others). I think GAOP is on PBS this Sunday at 5am
Thank you, paled. I'm sorry, but Kennywood kicks Cedar Point's butt any day. I'm half scared to go on the rides at Cedar Point -- the grounds aren't nearly as well maintained and the rides are sometimes in poor shape at least by sight. Example - whatever that roller coaster is that's inside a building and works like a water slide. Looks like they just got tired of keeping it up so they removed half of the pretense of the stupid thing and gave it 1/4 of the staff. Nothing like walking through what looks like an abandoned buliding but is obviously supposed to tell a story, boarding your train, getting off at the other end and hearing "Welcome to Alaska".
I'm sure there's some REASON they say you're in Alaska, but it's not part of the ride anymore.
How about:
Apple Employee Fired for Thinking Different
Where Does Bacon Come From?
Don't Feel Sad, I'm In Heaven Now, Singing With The Pretty Angels
I could go on.
No, see, I don't *care* that they posted the story about the Onion. It just seems to me that if you can post about the return of the Onion, you could make a mention of the moon landing, as well, you know?
What could you say about it? Well, apparently, 50% of Americans can't even name the first two people on the moon. So you could point that out. Or you could use it as sort of a "launch pad" to post another link to current spaceflight events. As in, "30 years after the moon landing, we're...".
Like I said, I like the Onion. I think it's funny, I bought the book and everything. I just don't think that its return is any more significant than the anniversary of the moon landing. Obviously you all (referring to all posts below as well) disagree, and that's OK. Just (guy below this) don't tell me I have a pole up my ass.
OK, don't get me wrong. I really, really like the Onion. But they've had a sign up since the *last* issue came out that they'd be back on July 21. Do we really need /. to tell us about it? /., at least not yet. /. over this. /., even the Onion recognizes the importance of the moon landing in their book, devoting a full page to it (along with the headline "Holy F***ing Sh**, Man Lands on F***ing Moon").
Meanwhile, today is the 30th anniversary of the moon landing... and nothing has been mentioned on
Yes, maybe anyone who already cares would know that it's the moon landing anniversary, but anyone who cares about the Onion would've known they'd be back today. Quite frankly I've lost a lot of respect for
Come on,
Frankly, I'm kind of surprised that it's not MORE than 13%. I know that personally, I'd rather read web pages and learn things than watch TV, usually. I used to really like PBS, Discovery Channel, and TLC, but lately the latter two have been showing "TRAUMA! LIFE IN THE ER" about fifteen times a day, along with "wedding" and "baby story". And the PBS station here is mostly kids' programming and only has interesting science-y stuff 2 or 3 times a week.
Why would I put up with having to follow someone else's schedule when I can find all the information I would get from TV and more whenever I want it?
Yay, fast connections!