That comes with the attribute of the US being the world's remaining superpower (if not hyperpower). There is no shame in living in the modern version of the Roman Empire.
This cycle started in the 1980s when companies discovered how to break the unwritten contract between the company and worker. Respect and goodwill, things that would solve most of the problems, went out the window completely by the early 2000's.
One could be offered every single benefit possible, while the lack of mutual respect and goodwill between employer and employee negates those benefits. Companies that fit this profile talk more about benefits up front versus those that choose to reveal those details later.
The brightest won't stay anywhere that maintains(or creates) abnormally high churn. The only people that will stay are less competent people that tolerate the pain or like the arrangement of the benefit package.
Applying the Neutron Bomb only causes more problems than it solves. Its only known purpose was to set a precedent that workers were never to be treated with respect, but as line-item entries.
While it makes sense if you only look at numbers all day, over-maximizing efficiency will scare off good talent.
If someone wants to treat people like people, contingency work arrangements go against that purpose(save for the very few people that can go with either). One can address this problem by converting people and positions to permanent/direct/FT while maintaining the same requirements. While some will opt to retain disposability, this measure establishes a base level of trust between employer and the person doing the work.
Trying to isolate someone due to "regulatory reasons" or "uncertainty" only serves to make most people not value their work since they're considered second-class citizens for the greater part. The rare birds that can defy that are few in number by definition.
If you include events like the Civil War, no. If you include events such as the violent era of unionbusting, no. If you include the introduction of the income tax, no.
It'll take a lot more than just Iraq and Afghanistan to count for a bad part in the history of the US.
The most common tactic to cleanse unionbusting is to make it look like a legally clean action. Whether it is to find a policy violation or another termination condition that is beyond the NLRB laws, no unionbusting activity is performed in the open. It is always hidden behind another offense, especially when they were terminated upon making their union status known.
Sounds like you'd have fit in with the CCC folks in the massacres of late 1890's-1900's Colorado. I may not have the desire to join a labor union, but they have acted as a counterweight against China-like practices making a return.
2. Communism and Dictatorship are mutually exclusive (at least in theory).
In implementation, they end up one and the same. See the USSR, Venezuela, Cuba, and post-WWII China.
3. China doesn't have the best human rights record, but they don't exactly have anywhere near the worst one either. The US isn't any saint either:
* The US set up Guantanamo Bay to purposely get around constitutionally guaranteed rights when they were inconvenient.
I see your GITMO and raise you one Tiananmen Square Massacre. In order to put down the event, the CPC brought in military from the countryside to guarantee enforcement of orders. In addition, involvement meant that you would be completely disappeared.
With GITMO and other places, you're not completely removed from existence as deeply as performed in China. Never mind that GITMO treats its detainees quite well compared to China's equivalent - to the point where detained Uighurs are not sent home to China.
In addition, the United States does not have closed regions like Tibet that restrict foreigners from entry.
* The white people who settled in the US basically killed all of the existing red people.
Then you might explain the flood of Han Chinese in Tibet - the same region that has excluded foreigners for purely political reasons. In addition, the monks get the same treatment if not worse by CPC policies(as implemented, not as written).
* Privacy as a right went out the window a while ago with all the warrant-less wiretaps, GPS vehicle tracking, etc.
* From my understanding, anyone can be detained without trial or attorney, as long as they are classified as a "terrorist".
It takes a LOT more effort to fall foul of those provisions in the US. As for China, you can just tell a bad joke about a government official and you are gone. Even high-up officials like Bo Xilai are not immune to such provisions - even if their family has favor.
In China, there would be no equivalent to the Tea Party or Breitbart that survives in the open.
* The "Child labor" that bleeding hearts in the US complain about was considered normal and routine in the US not all that long ago, and is still considered normal and even desired in many countries overseas.
Those practices refer to a society that willfully forsakes freedom for all. 50 years will pass and China will still be as despotic towards its workers in deference to its little princes that run their factories like fiefdoms.
The closest I know is some domestic model Sony Vaio models (the most expensive ones) are supposedly 100% "made in Japan" - even those will probably have at least some parts from Taiwan, Korea, etc.
With IBM, some machines do have an order code for a US-friendly setup. That is, the machine will be made from parts that would pass muster with the DoD as being from the US and close allies with the US - China not being one of them. At one time, this also included US assembly of laptops for government contracts but is primarily for their midrange machines.
Those countries won't look inviting when trade policy has the choices being a non-front-company in the US(and not in a RTW state) or the same in the higher-cost EU. The US just needs someone willing to play hardball.
If they want to manufacture closer to their customers in the US, then by all means make it effectively impossible to reward a despotic Third World country.
If the US decides to stop giving China(and like countries to prevent shifts to other non-US countries) the kid gloves treatment, one could make it more profitable in the US by default - with a lot less impact than you think.
There will be major political unrest in China, supply chains will be severely disrupted, and hardware will move back to expensive labor markets, not cheap ones
That is a good thing since "cheap labor market" is shorthand for "despotic country" these days. Pay off the government, and ensure that the workers don't gain any meaningful freedoms - even if you have to make more than a few of them feel like royals.
Not all of the technical expertise has been lost, it just hasn't been paid appropriately. Pay more, hire directly, and ensure job security - and then you can get all the talent you want in the US.
Using the Chinese seller(or a China-friendly seller) to avoid junk is a counter-productive task. It is similar to rolling a die that is weighted against any number you want. With the US seller, protections are based on US jurisdiction and skew towards well-priced quality.
Since the China apologists are out in force to protect their country:
What you call a "want" isn't strictly desire - it is something that exists only due to the lack of a proper alternative. China(and other quality-killing Third World countries) crowds out quality at reasonable prices and leaves substandard products at "You get what you pay for" prices.
My point still stands that they make junk and treat their workers accordingly. The short term is rewarded at the cost of the long-term.
Unlike Japan, they have not learned the lesson of improving anything on the whole - whether it is the worker or the product delivered - aside from cultivating a more pliant workforce.
Business friendliness doesn't mean anything if it results in less freedoms for regular individuals.
Now if they were to do datacenters in otherwise sane places not completely controlled by business - e.g. north of the Mason-Dixon, east of the Mississippi (exc. Indiana) and New England - there might be something of note in the news.
Evacuating our industry to third world hell holes is a crucial part of contemporary culture. We, the affluent, are left to indulge our labor laws, environmental regulations, confiscatory tax policies and every other anti-industry, anti-energy, anti-business policy we can dream up, all while browsing our online retailers and big box stores filled with low cost goodies. But for Asia we would have to pay the cost of our high minded selves. We would have to weight the value of our environmental hysteria against our material desires.
Except for the part where harm is caused much faster than any supposed benefit is realized. See about every industry since the 1970's where harm has been caused faster and has yet to provide any direct benefit to the majority (and no, cheapness does not count).
As for the tax policies, the US stands quite well for being able to go anywhere without regard to jurisdiction. This effectively infinite jurisdiction is a nice side effect of being the superpower with a well-maintained military-industrial complex. The only missing piece is the willingness to use it to enforce tax code, especially when citizens call for such an action to be performed.
In addition, removing the ability for businesses to act with divine power is a good thing - despite your complaint to the contrary.
This is what you get when you go overkill on business friendliness, since this is something that the South would like to be able to do to workers in the US.
That fails to address issues regarding scale, which would wipe out any gains from the LLC end. In addition, it fails to address the restriction that short-term work has on planning for the long-term.
The "hidden" costs are usually not done badly, thus mooting the choice objection. When such are done badly, it shows up in other parts of the company and thus easily avoidable.
Not only do you get every single cost dumped onto you, you also get to deal with things without the benefits of a large scale company, or the ability to look beyond the end of the short contract.
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That comes with the attribute of the US being the world's remaining superpower (if not hyperpower). There is no shame in living in the modern version of the Roman Empire.
I opt for accuracy over your blanket statements.
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This cycle started in the 1980s when companies discovered how to break the unwritten contract between the company and worker. Respect and goodwill, things that would solve most of the problems, went out the window completely by the early 2000's.
One could be offered every single benefit possible, while the lack of mutual respect and goodwill between employer and employee negates those benefits. Companies that fit this profile talk more about benefits up front versus those that choose to reveal those details later.
The brightest won't stay anywhere that maintains(or creates) abnormally high churn. The only people that will stay are less competent people that tolerate the pain or like the arrangement of the benefit package.
Applying the Neutron Bomb only causes more problems than it solves. Its only known purpose was to set a precedent that workers were never to be treated with respect, but as line-item entries.
While it makes sense if you only look at numbers all day, over-maximizing efficiency will scare off good talent.
If someone wants to treat people like people, contingency work arrangements go against that purpose(save for the very few people that can go with either). One can address this problem by converting people and positions to permanent/direct/FT while maintaining the same requirements. While some will opt to retain disposability, this measure establishes a base level of trust between employer and the person doing the work.
Trying to isolate someone due to "regulatory reasons" or "uncertainty" only serves to make most people not value their work since they're considered second-class citizens for the greater part. The rare birds that can defy that are few in number by definition.
If you include events like the Civil War, no.
If you include events such as the violent era of unionbusting, no.
If you include the introduction of the income tax, no.
It'll take a lot more than just Iraq and Afghanistan to count for a bad part in the history of the US.
The most common tactic to cleanse unionbusting is to make it look like a legally clean action. Whether it is to find a policy violation or another termination condition that is beyond the NLRB laws, no unionbusting activity is performed in the open. It is always hidden behind another offense, especially when they were terminated upon making their union status known.
Sounds like you'd have fit in with the CCC folks in the massacres of late 1890's-1900's Colorado. I may not have the desire to join a labor union, but they have acted as a counterweight against China-like practices making a return.
Iran, (Taliban/Al Qaeda controlled) Afghanistan, Cuba, Venezuela, Belarus, Zimbabwe, and Somalia to name a few.
2. Communism and Dictatorship are mutually exclusive (at least in theory).
In implementation, they end up one and the same. See the USSR, Venezuela, Cuba, and post-WWII China.
3. China doesn't have the best human rights record, but they don't exactly have anywhere near the worst one either. The US isn't any saint either:
* The US set up Guantanamo Bay to purposely get around constitutionally guaranteed rights when they were inconvenient.
I see your GITMO and raise you one Tiananmen Square Massacre. In order to put down the event, the CPC brought in military from the countryside to guarantee enforcement of orders. In addition, involvement meant that you would be completely disappeared.
With GITMO and other places, you're not completely removed from existence as deeply as performed in China. Never mind that GITMO treats its detainees quite well compared to China's equivalent - to the point where detained Uighurs are not sent home to China.
In addition, the United States does not have closed regions like Tibet that restrict foreigners from entry.
* The white people who settled in the US basically killed all of the existing red people.
Then you might explain the flood of Han Chinese in Tibet - the same region that has excluded foreigners for purely political reasons.
In addition, the monks get the same treatment if not worse by CPC policies(as implemented, not as written).
* Privacy as a right went out the window a while ago with all the warrant-less wiretaps, GPS vehicle tracking, etc.
* From my understanding, anyone can be detained without trial or attorney, as long as they are classified as a "terrorist".
It takes a LOT more effort to fall foul of those provisions in the US. As for China, you can just tell a bad joke about a government official and you are gone. Even high-up officials like Bo Xilai are not immune to such provisions - even if their family has favor.
In China, there would be no equivalent to the Tea Party or Breitbart that survives in the open.
* The "Child labor" that bleeding hearts in the US complain about was considered normal and routine in the US not all that long ago, and is still considered
normal and even desired in many countries overseas.
Those practices refer to a society that willfully forsakes freedom for all. 50 years will pass and China will still be as despotic towards its workers in deference to its little princes that run their factories like fiefdoms.
The closest I know is some domestic model Sony Vaio models (the most expensive ones) are supposedly 100% "made in Japan" - even those will probably have at least some parts from Taiwan, Korea, etc.
With IBM, some machines do have an order code for a US-friendly setup. That is, the machine will be made from parts that would pass muster with the DoD as being from the US and close allies with the US - China not being one of them. At one time, this also included US assembly of laptops for government contracts but is primarily for their midrange machines.
I doubt Terry Gou has been hungry enough to mistake desperation as clear thought.
China is as despotic as any of the US's declared enemies and their government shows it.
That country will not get out of that era as long as businesses want a large & pliant pool of workers.
Those countries won't look inviting when trade policy has the choices being a non-front-company in the US(and not in a RTW state) or the same in the higher-cost EU. The US just needs someone willing to play hardball.
If they want to manufacture closer to their customers in the US, then by all means make it effectively impossible to reward a despotic Third World country.
If the US decides to stop giving China(and like countries to prevent shifts to other non-US countries) the kid gloves treatment, one could make it more profitable in the US by default - with a lot less impact than you think.
There will be major political unrest in China, supply chains will be severely disrupted, and hardware will move back to expensive labor markets, not cheap ones
That is a good thing since "cheap labor market" is shorthand for "despotic country" these days. Pay off the government, and ensure that the workers don't gain any meaningful freedoms - even if you have to make more than a few of them feel like royals.
Not all of the technical expertise has been lost, it just hasn't been paid appropriately. Pay more, hire directly, and ensure job security - and then you can get all the talent you want in the US.
They're only related in that they both sell junk.
Using the Chinese seller(or a China-friendly seller) to avoid junk is a counter-productive task. It is similar to rolling a die that is weighted against any number you want. With the US seller, protections are based on US jurisdiction and skew towards well-priced quality.
Since the China apologists are out in force to protect their country:
What you call a "want" isn't strictly desire - it is something that exists only due to the lack of a proper alternative. China(and other quality-killing Third World countries) crowds out quality at reasonable prices and leaves substandard products at "You get what you pay for" prices.
My point still stands that they make junk and treat their workers accordingly. The short term is rewarded at the cost of the long-term.
Unlike Japan, they have not learned the lesson of improving anything on the whole - whether it is the worker or the product delivered - aside from cultivating a more pliant workforce.
Speed for the few, revenue enhancement agencies for the masses.
The last time around, they just bought off the developers and closed the hole off.
This time around, they're making sure nobody exists that has to be bought off.
The "It's not ready" calls sound like they're apologizing for such actions.
Business friendliness doesn't mean anything if it results in less freedoms for regular individuals.
Now if they were to do datacenters in otherwise sane places not completely controlled by business - e.g. north of the Mason-Dixon, east of the Mississippi (exc. Indiana) and New England - there might be something of note in the news.
Evacuating our industry to third world hell holes is a crucial part of contemporary culture. We, the affluent, are left to indulge our labor laws, environmental regulations, confiscatory tax policies and every other anti-industry, anti-energy, anti-business policy we can dream up, all while browsing our online retailers and big box stores filled with low cost goodies. But for Asia we would have to pay the cost of our high minded selves. We would have to weight the value of our environmental hysteria against our material desires.
Except for the part where harm is caused much faster than any supposed benefit is realized. See about every industry since the 1970's where harm has been caused faster and has yet to provide any direct benefit to the majority (and no, cheapness does not count).
As for the tax policies, the US stands quite well for being able to go anywhere without regard to jurisdiction. This effectively infinite jurisdiction is a nice side effect of being the superpower with a well-maintained military-industrial complex. The only missing piece is the willingness to use it to enforce tax code, especially when citizens call for such an action to be performed.
In addition, removing the ability for businesses to act with divine power is a good thing - despite your complaint to the contrary.
Build the good factories first and the country can develop even faster.
Pliancy and apologies to despotic regimes have no place in the development of any country, no matter what history says for you.
This is what you get when you go overkill on business friendliness, since this is something that the South would like to be able to do to workers in the US.
That fails to address issues regarding scale, which would wipe out any gains from the LLC end. In addition, it fails to address the restriction that short-term work has on planning for the long-term.
The "hidden" costs are usually not done badly, thus mooting the choice objection. When such are done badly, it shows up in other parts of the company and thus easily avoidable.
Not only do you get every single cost dumped onto you, you also get to deal with things without the benefits of a large scale company, or the ability to look beyond the end of the short contract.