Come on now. There are mods even a noob can do with high degree of success, cold air bypass being one. It's simple, inexpensive and will yield a few more horsepower quite easily. You learn by doing, the trick being not swimming out of your depth.
"The U.N. knew the location of, and was keeping tabs on, those hundreds of tons of high explosives. The knew right where they were, and exactly how much, and had pictures of them. Ditto the WMD manufacturing precursors ("dual use") that were reported several weeks back."
What about 380 tons don't you understand? We're not talking something that can be done in a night. Or two nights. We're talking a major undertaking of logistsics. We're talkin at least 10-30 trailers worth of explosives. We're talking during a time when our airpower was romping all over the place bombing anything on the roads! Incompentant invasion? We were in Bahgdad in less than a month! The first unit US military unit came into contact with the Al-Qaqaa weapons facility April 10, 2003! Do you realize how much that strains the bounds of credibility????
"Seriously... "Blessed are the Peacemakers" ring any bells?"
No, seriously. You sound like a complete idiot. Name me a "peace maker" in his place. Go on. Kerry? Oooh, had that Vietnam thing happening. Clinton? attacked Iraq first on the very same premise of WMDs. The UN? Sanctioned the first invasion of Iraq and through their decade of inaction, cost 300,000 their lives.
Um, the guy you're replying to is absolutely right. You're comparing apples and oranges here. They let consoles "spin and spin" because they have no reason to stop them from spinning. It's plugged into the wall and power is infinite. Why bother powering it down, expecially when you can shave a bit off of access times by leaving it spinning and powered up?
But almost every spinning portable media device has that power constraint and some of the more advanced players, especially the MP3 ones, read chunks of the song into memory and idle down/off to conserve on power. Your remark on his inexperience and the PS2 completely baffles me, especially since he never refered to a console and the fact that he's absolutely right. You can probably read gaming data in nice dicreet chunks into memory for execution, power down until you need the next executable chunk, but video data? Very data intenisive.
On that note, game life will probably depend on the developer as well, and how they code the game. Sloppy programming may mean more disk access times, draining more power.
Don't ding somebody on inexperience, especially when it's obvious you're not even on the same page as him.
You simplify this too much. The public tends to fear nuclear power because very specific groups spin nuclear power as the evil demonic force opposed to mother nature. These same groups often use nuclear power as fear-leverage in politics. "Gasp! They want to open up more evil nuclear powerplants and refineries that pollute and readioactivate! Don't vote for them or your child wil grow up with 5 arms! Nuclear waste spill across the highways and nich impreganable underground containment will leak into the ground water, killing us all in several thousand years assuming our technology doesn't advance whatsoever from this point forward. Fear teh nuk3z!"
It's simple to say the public fears it. It's important to know who is driving that fear.
Only 64mb???? 66mhz????? (cringe) But you made close enough to $100 not to matter. i guess I could ditch a stick of ram and bring mine down to 256 to get closer to the mark. That's as low as I would want to go, though.
Shipping was included, as I noted in my first post. Keyboard/mouse/speakers were not part of the requirments. Infact, the story specified a keyboard was already availible. HDD was included in the second estimate, a follow up I posted almost immedietly after the first post ($20 for 20gb). The DVD ROM was post after THAT to the first guy who brought that minor fact to my attention ($12 DVDROM). Since I can't edit, it's the best I could do to correct my error. All in all, still less than $150 including shipping. Nor did the story specify replacement machines, lifespans legacy hardware or the like, cost to replacement ratio, etc. I took him for his word and attempted to give him a machine as close to the $$ as possible. That, and the machine package you listed will be CHOKING for RAM even with the faster CPU. It's a good deal, but you'll still need to add on to it to be even remotely useful. And the only way it can be $116 is if it's a barebones kit. Did you even bother adding in the essential options?
You're the one assuming too much of the buyer. He said, $100 and I tried to get as close to the mark as possible. Yes, the RAM is the most expensive piece in there. SO WHAT?. What imay be unaccpetable for you might be for him. At $100, it's a throw away machine anyway. There are going to be tradeoffs. I opted for the slower processor and tried to balance it out with more RAM. You took the other approach and added more than $100 to the process. A bit of advice to you- Don't read between the lines so much. Oh, and pay a bit more attention to the story and its replies.
The Modded Xbox is almost a viable solution, but for a more ground up design:
$18 - Celeron 700MHz 66MHz 128K FCPGA CPU OEM (socket 370) $25 - ASUS MEW-AM Mainboard Socket 370 supporting Intel Celeron 300~533+ Onboard sound/video $40 - 1 512mb Stick of PC100 Ram $58 if 2 256mb sticks are required. $3 - Encore - 10/100 VIA Chipset NIC $24 - COMP-USA ATX Case w 250W Power Supply. $2 - Generic heatsink
Total = $112
I thought it important to load up on the RAM as compensation for the trailing edge CPU. Granted, you won't be playing Doom 3 on this machine, but it'll do most anything you want in terms of office support, though I'm not entirely sure how linux compatible the hardware is. Still, a decent machine. Prices include shipping, unless I missed something.
"Online poker is all about logic and patience, and at least the former is found in most computer people, which is why I am guessing they will do much better at the strategic part, which will more or less translate into playing winning poker."
God help you the day you play a 56k'er then. They'll beat you little impatient braodband weenies down:D
"I just don't see this as a smart move on Soney's behalf. The PS had appeal because it tore down Nintendo's more chilidish marketing and development. Adults liked it. I do not see the same effect in a portable."
You're not taking into account all the variables. First, their home market is Japan. If you don't think the Japanese will eat something like this up, you're kidding yourself. We're talking nifty-cool gadget capital of the world where gaming reigns supreme. And nubile Geisha girls. But mainly gaming. It sounds powerful and flexible enough to perform a variety of tasks, and it just so happens Sony has been the king of gaming worldwide for the last decade, which means absolutely no shortage of titles. This thing is a license to print money, plain and simple.
While the same can't nessisarily be said about markets abroad, I'm warning you right now that this thing as 'status symbol' written all over it. To borrow from an over-abused analogy, it is quite literally the iPod of gaming. The SP has made great strides in design, but the PSP is sexy as hell. It's all but guaranteed to have a massive library of games, more horsepower, strong wireless lan capabilities and the flexibility to do way more than just game. And it's Sony. The status symbol aspect of this product cannot be overstate. More than some adults picked up an iPod and I see the same happening here. Speaking of which, have you put a PSP (especially the white one) side by side with an iPod? And then there is the hip new generation marketing featuring these things hanging from everybodies wrists. Sony may have been late on the digital music bandwagon, but they've taken marketing notes strait from Apple's playbook on this one.
And honestly, the Gameboy and kids thing is based on a flawed premise. The only thing that makes the gameboy a popular kids item is less mario and more price, because it's the parent who ultimately shell out for these things. If the SP can't hit that magic price point, I guarantee you that the DS kids market will begin evaporating while parents will keep right on buying them cheaper GBA hardware. And in a world where a SP costs you nearly as much as a gamecube, it's will be a tough sell. Not saying impossible, but tough and a potentially reduced market share among the actual buyers, not their 8 year old gamers. Unlike Nintendo, Sony has some leeway here. Sony is known for cutting edge electronics and can, like the iPod, demand a higher price (within reason). Also, they aren't targeting the kids, they're targeting actual buyers who are looking not only for a portable gaming/video/whatever unit, but want to look cool doing so.
Sure there is room for two systems, expecially given the target audiences of each. It will all come down to whether they can make the intelligent decisions that will keep them alive in the face of competition. Unfortuantely, Nintendo has bled alot over the last decade, and their console share is wearing razor thin. So much so that the only thing keeping them afloat is the handheld. Sony has the advantage in market position, consumer base, 3rd parties and a substantial cash reserve. Nintendo can do it, they just have to play it smarter than they have been for the last decade.
"The online game, which simulates an ancient Egyptian culture, was full of angry players after a developer-run event used openly discriminatory language against the female gender."
"That's not a women, it's a MAN, Baay-Bee!!...playing at home in his underwear, no doubt.
"Should the Apple retail model be applied to Sony, and if so why didn't it work for Gateway?
Um, why should they bother with Apple's model when they not only have had their own stores locally (japan) and abroad, but have had their own functioning, successful retail model for quite some time now?
As for Gateway, their products weren't nitche enough. Apple survives on niche, whereas the x86 market is much faster and more cut throat. Nifty stores only count for so much when your local internet supplier can chop the kneecaps out from the better know brands and customers are only as loyal as their price. Apple users? Well, they don't really have a choice in the matter, do they? It's not a flame, just fact. Sony, on the otherhand has established itself as a mega leader in consumer electronics, which gives them considerable leeway in how they conduct themselves in the market place.
"Apparently, catchy slogans like 'Listen up, you pirate, I choose copyright!' just aren't working."
Well, when your countries' finacial system is in shambles and legitimate opportunities to thrive are next to non-existant, I could see where one might look to alternate forms of income. It's not nessisarily right, but then it's also hard to feel sorry for the music industry, who will be making billions a year regardless.
You mean like most resteraunt where people a jabbering all over the place anyway??? Come on now. Don't get your panties in a bind just because they're talking into a box. Yammering to a friend, your date or a phone, there's no freakin' difference. Now if your yelling at your friend, date or cell phone, you've got a right to bitch. That's what you call an extenuating circumstance.
Don't bitch just to bitch; we're talking about everyday normal use here.
"Forbes is carrying the story that U2 and Apple will be releasing a custom black iPod that comes preloaded with the band's new album as well as portions of the band's 25-year back catalog."
A portion? Only a portion? For the price this thing is gonna cost you, you better get their entire compilation of music.
"Personally, I am terribly annoyed by TVs in restaurants and airports: they grab my attention over and over, no matter how hard I try to ignore them, and they distract me from the conversations that I should be having with my human companions."
Sooooo... That's the menatility that says it's use ok? Personally, I'm getting tired of this movement that insists it's OK to deprive people and business operating in public places to electronic convinences just because it annoys you. Keep in mind this is the mentality that gives somebodyelse the right to kick your ass because you're annoying them just for looking funny, let alone turning off the convinece they're paying for. I'll give you the fact that there are some places that those convinences shouldn't be used, but TVs? Everyplace there's a TV is at the discretion of the owners who most likely have them there because people appreciate them to some degree or another.
Honestly, if you can't pay attention to your friends in competition with a TV, that's a problem an off button won't solve.
When did we start modding "I told you so" posts insightful again? Maybe if there was some content, or even a link to an "I told you so" post, but this? BTW, I remember thinking to myself "Wow, the Ge6600 is going to be a great budget graphics card" when I first heard about it.
Glad to see my expectations were maintained. Mod me up, please.
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Come on now. There are mods even a noob can do with high degree of success, cold air bypass being one. It's simple, inexpensive and will yield a few more horsepower quite easily. You learn by doing, the trick being not swimming out of your depth.
"The U.N. knew the location of, and was keeping tabs on, those hundreds of tons of high explosives. The knew right where they were, and exactly how much, and had pictures of them. Ditto the WMD manufacturing precursors ("dual use") that were reported several weeks back."
What about 380 tons don't you understand? We're not talking something that can be done in a night. Or two nights. We're talking a major undertaking of logistsics. We're talkin at least 10-30 trailers worth of explosives. We're talking during a time when our airpower was romping all over the place bombing anything on the roads! Incompentant invasion? We were in Bahgdad in less than a month! The first unit US military unit came into contact with the Al-Qaqaa weapons facility April 10, 2003! Do you realize how much that strains the bounds of credibility????
Whatever. Any excuse will work.
*M872 US Military Semi-trailers can carry 34 tons
"Seriously... "Blessed are the Peacemakers" ring any bells?"
No, seriously. You sound like a complete idiot. Name me a "peace maker" in his place. Go on. Kerry? Oooh, had that Vietnam thing happening. Clinton? attacked Iraq first on the very same premise of WMDs. The UN? Sanctioned the first invasion of Iraq and through their decade of inaction, cost 300,000 their lives.
Terrorism? Proven. Human rights violations? Proven. Banned weapons programs? Proven. The willingness to use WMDs on his own poulace? Proven. WMDs? Well, still working on that, but question: If 300 tones of high explosive can go missing right out from under the UN's nose, why not WMDs? 300 tones isn't exactly something you can load up onto your 4x4 and boogie out, you know? We're talk a concerted effort using tractor trailers and semies. Where's they go?
Yes, Bush, root of all evil.
Um, the guy you're replying to is absolutely right. You're comparing apples and oranges here. They let consoles "spin and spin" because they have no reason to stop them from spinning. It's plugged into the wall and power is infinite. Why bother powering it down, expecially when you can shave a bit off of access times by leaving it spinning and powered up?
But almost every spinning portable media device has that power constraint and some of the more advanced players, especially the MP3 ones, read chunks of the song into memory and idle down/off to conserve on power. Your remark on his inexperience and the PS2 completely baffles me, especially since he never refered to a console and the fact that he's absolutely right. You can probably read gaming data in nice dicreet chunks into memory for execution, power down until you need the next executable chunk, but video data? Very data intenisive.
On that note, game life will probably depend on the developer as well, and how they code the game. Sloppy programming may mean more disk access times, draining more power.
Don't ding somebody on inexperience, especially when it's obvious you're not even on the same page as him.
"What other records can Open Source smash wide open?"
Mmmm, home consumer usage, maybe?? HA! What was I thinking!?
You simplify this too much. The public tends to fear nuclear power because very specific groups spin nuclear power as the evil demonic force opposed to mother nature. These same groups often use nuclear power as fear-leverage in politics. "Gasp! They want to open up more evil nuclear powerplants and refineries that pollute and readioactivate! Don't vote for them or your child wil grow up with 5 arms! Nuclear waste spill across the highways and nich impreganable underground containment will leak into the ground water, killing us all in several thousand years assuming our technology doesn't advance whatsoever from this point forward. Fear teh nuk3z!"
It's simple to say the public fears it. It's important to know who is driving that fear.
So is that his login name on the original Galactic Smuggler BBS or the Special Edition?
Wait... You mean people actually PAY for that stuff???? Got mine from a friend of a friend of a friend...
Only 64mb???? 66mhz????? (cringe)
But you made close enough to $100 not to matter. i guess I could ditch a stick of ram and bring mine down to 256 to get closer to the mark. That's as low as I would want to go, though.
Shipping was included, as I noted in my first post. Keyboard/mouse/speakers were not part of the requirments. Infact, the story specified a keyboard was already availible. HDD was included in the second estimate, a follow up I posted almost immedietly after the first post ($20 for 20gb). The DVD ROM was post after THAT to the first guy who brought that minor fact to my attention ($12 DVDROM). Since I can't edit, it's the best I could do to correct my error. All in all, still less than $150 including shipping. Nor did the story specify replacement machines, lifespans legacy hardware or the like, cost to replacement ratio, etc. I took him for his word and attempted to give him a machine as close to the $$ as possible. That, and the machine package you listed will be CHOKING for RAM even with the faster CPU. It's a good deal, but you'll still need to add on to it to be even remotely useful. And the only way it can be $116 is if it's a barebones kit. Did you even bother adding in the essential options?
You're the one assuming too much of the buyer. He said, $100 and I tried to get as close to the mark as possible. Yes, the RAM is the most expensive piece in there. SO WHAT?. What imay be unaccpetable for you might be for him. At $100, it's a throw away machine anyway. There are going to be tradeoffs. I opted for the slower processor and tried to balance it out with more RAM. You took the other approach and added more than $100 to the process. A bit of advice to you- Don't read between the lines so much. Oh, and pay a bit more attention to the story and its replies.
Damn. I caught the HDD issue (see post above yours) but missed the CDROM. Lucky for me those are dirt; From $12 for a simple DVD drive.
So, $144 for the whole package. But Windows. Yeah, that screws it all up. I'm counting on the linux aspect or a 'borrowed' copy of windows here.
Oh, add $20 for a 20gb hdd, $36 for a 30gb. Brings the total to $132 assuming the cheaper option.
The Modded Xbox is almost a viable solution, but for a more ground up design:
$18 - Celeron 700MHz 66MHz 128K FCPGA CPU OEM (socket 370)
$25 - ASUS MEW-AM Mainboard Socket 370 supporting Intel Celeron 300~533+ Onboard sound/video
$40 - 1 512mb Stick of PC100 Ram $58 if 2 256mb sticks are required.
$3 - Encore - 10/100 VIA Chipset NIC
$24 - COMP-USA ATX Case w 250W Power Supply.
$2 - Generic heatsink
Total = $112
I thought it important to load up on the RAM as compensation for the trailing edge CPU. Granted, you won't be playing Doom 3 on this machine, but it'll do most anything you want in terms of office support, though I'm not entirely sure how linux compatible the hardware is. Still, a decent machine. Prices include shipping, unless I missed something.
All prices courtesy of Pricewatch.com
"Online poker is all about logic and patience, and at least the former is found in most computer people, which is why I am guessing they will do much better at the strategic part, which will more or less translate into playing winning poker."
:D
God help you the day you play a 56k'er then. They'll beat you little impatient braodband weenies down
"I just don't see this as a smart move on Soney's behalf. The PS had appeal because it tore down Nintendo's more chilidish marketing and development. Adults liked it. I do not see the same effect in a portable."
You're not taking into account all the variables. First, their home market is Japan. If you don't think the Japanese will eat something like this up, you're kidding yourself. We're talking nifty-cool gadget capital of the world where gaming reigns supreme. And nubile Geisha girls. But mainly gaming. It sounds powerful and flexible enough to perform a variety of tasks, and it just so happens Sony has been the king of gaming worldwide for the last decade, which means absolutely no shortage of titles. This thing is a license to print money, plain and simple.
While the same can't nessisarily be said about markets abroad, I'm warning you right now that this thing as 'status symbol' written all over it. To borrow from an over-abused analogy, it is quite literally the iPod of gaming. The SP has made great strides in design, but the PSP is sexy as hell. It's all but guaranteed to have a massive library of games, more horsepower, strong wireless lan capabilities and the flexibility to do way more than just game. And it's Sony. The status symbol aspect of this product cannot be overstate. More than some adults picked up an iPod and I see the same happening here. Speaking of which, have you put a PSP (especially the white one) side by side with an iPod? And then there is the hip new generation marketing featuring these things hanging from everybodies wrists. Sony may have been late on the digital music bandwagon, but they've taken marketing notes strait from Apple's playbook on this one.
And honestly, the Gameboy and kids thing is based on a flawed premise. The only thing that makes the gameboy a popular kids item is less mario and more price, because it's the parent who ultimately shell out for these things. If the SP can't hit that magic price point, I guarantee you that the DS kids market will begin evaporating while parents will keep right on buying them cheaper GBA hardware. And in a world where a SP costs you nearly as much as a gamecube, it's will be a tough sell. Not saying impossible, but tough and a potentially reduced market share among the actual buyers, not their 8 year old gamers. Unlike Nintendo, Sony has some leeway here. Sony is known for cutting edge electronics and can, like the iPod, demand a higher price (within reason). Also, they aren't targeting the kids, they're targeting actual buyers who are looking not only for a portable gaming/video/whatever unit, but want to look cool doing so.
Sure there is room for two systems, expecially given the target audiences of each. It will all come down to whether they can make the intelligent decisions that will keep them alive in the face of competition. Unfortuantely, Nintendo has bled alot over the last decade, and their console share is wearing razor thin. So much so that the only thing keeping them afloat is the handheld. Sony has the advantage in market position, consumer base, 3rd parties and a substantial cash reserve. Nintendo can do it, they just have to play it smarter than they have been for the last decade.
Um, did you bother reading for content?
Q: For example, the PSP will also be able to deal with video content - will you be able to watch at least one movie?
Kawanishi: Of course, that's the mimimum requirement. The battery will last quite a bit longer than that.
Did full length movies all of a sudden get shorter in your world, becausing I'm seeing "quite a bite longer than two hours" here.
"The online game, which simulates an ancient Egyptian culture, was full of angry players after a developer-run event used openly discriminatory language against the female gender."
...playing at home in his underwear, no doubt.
"That's not a women, it's a MAN, Baay-Bee!!
"Should the Apple retail model be applied to Sony, and if so why didn't it work for Gateway?
Um, why should they bother with Apple's model when they not only have had their own stores locally (japan) and abroad, but have had their own functioning, successful retail model for quite some time now?
As for Gateway, their products weren't nitche enough. Apple survives on niche, whereas the x86 market is much faster and more cut throat. Nifty stores only count for so much when your local internet supplier can chop the kneecaps out from the better know brands and customers are only as loyal as their price. Apple users? Well, they don't really have a choice in the matter, do they? It's not a flame, just fact. Sony, on the otherhand has established itself as a mega leader in consumer electronics, which gives them considerable leeway in how they conduct themselves in the market place.
Apples, oranges and pears in every instance.
"Apparently, catchy slogans like 'Listen up, you pirate, I choose copyright!' just aren't working."
Well, when your countries' finacial system is in shambles and legitimate opportunities to thrive are next to non-existant, I could see where one might look to alternate forms of income. It's not nessisarily right, but then it's also hard to feel sorry for the music industry, who will be making billions a year regardless.
And WTF is so special about black caviar, anyway?
You mean like most resteraunt where people a jabbering all over the place anyway??? Come on now. Don't get your panties in a bind just because they're talking into a box. Yammering to a friend, your date or a phone, there's no freakin' difference. Now if your yelling at your friend, date or cell phone, you've got a right to bitch. That's what you call an extenuating circumstance.
Don't bitch just to bitch; we're talking about everyday normal use here.
"Forbes is carrying the story that U2 and Apple will be releasing a custom black iPod that comes preloaded with the band's new album as well as portions of the band's 25-year back catalog."
A portion? Only a portion? For the price this thing is gonna cost you, you better get their entire compilation of music.
"Personally, I am terribly annoyed by TVs in restaurants and airports: they grab my attention over and over, no matter how hard I try to ignore them, and they distract me from the conversations that I should be having with my human companions."
Sooooo... That's the menatility that says it's use ok? Personally, I'm getting tired of this movement that insists it's OK to deprive people and business operating in public places to electronic convinences just because it annoys you. Keep in mind this is the mentality that gives somebodyelse the right to kick your ass because you're annoying them just for looking funny, let alone turning off the convinece they're paying for. I'll give you the fact that there are some places that those convinences shouldn't be used, but TVs? Everyplace there's a TV is at the discretion of the owners who most likely have them there because people appreciate them to some degree or another.
Honestly, if you can't pay attention to your friends in competition with a TV, that's a problem an off button won't solve.
"C'mon Neal...you should know slashdotters better than that. We don't hit the back button, we use mouse gestures."
How about "spinning the mouse wheel wildly"?
"CNN is a running a story on an Oregon college student's flat-screen Toshiba TV which was releasing the 121.5 MHz international distress signal"
Thank GOD it wasn't coded to signal an artillery mission or nuclear strike on his position...
-insert obligitory terrorism reference here-
When did we start modding "I told you so" posts insightful again? Maybe if there was some content, or even a link to an "I told you so" post, but this? BTW, I remember thinking to myself "Wow, the Ge6600 is going to be a great budget graphics card" when I first heard about it.
Glad to see my expectations were maintained. Mod me up, please.