Jeremy is INTIMATELY familiar with this particular law. Having broke the same exact law, in the same exact way, and getting 2 years in jail for it about 5 years ago. Hell, he even started these shenanigans WHILE HE WAS ON PAROLE!
Actually, Jeremy should know this law fairly well.
It's the same law, and the same set of circumstances, that got him tossed in lockup in Greenville, IL for 2 years back in 2007.
And Jeremy's constitutionally INCAPABLE of not getting caught.
He WANTS people to know how "l33t" he is. That's what actually GOT him caught this time. He couldn't shut up and wound up blathering enough facts about himself to an informant to get ID'ed and then monitored for a sting.
If da gub-mint wants to put ya in jail, you is goin' ta jail! They gonna fight dirty!
Yes! The Evil Military Industrial Complex Will Punish You! FNORD!
This isn't about some fantasy of an innocent guy framed by The Man here. This is a scumbag, repeat-offending CRIMINAL who got caught because he couldn't NOT brag about how "elite" he was.
Jeremy DOES "feel innocent". Because in Jeremy's World, Jeremy does no wrong. Jeremy is "misunderstood". Jeremy knows better than anyone else. Because only Jeremy has a heart and a brain. What's wrong with theft and vandalism? Everyone (except Jeremy of course) should be living in exactly identical block-houses eating exactly the same food and giving up the whole of the fruits of their labor to Jeremy so he can "more fairly" redistribute it.
You can be tried, in serial, for each of them. Though, for brevity's sake, prosecutors tend to concatenate them.
But yes, it's possible to be cleared of the 01/01 robbery and still have to go to trial for the 02/01 and 03/01 offenses if they charges weren't amalgamated into a single list of offenses.
I may not have seen the evidence, but the way it's laid out, it's Jeremy's standard MO. And I'm rather intimately familiar with Jeremy's MO. Having seen it in action first-hand. It's basically a super-sized version of his last CFAA offense. The one that got him sent to Greenville, IL correctional for 2 years.
As noted here earlier this month, three young hackers in Britain convicted of similar charges relating to the Stratfor hack received sentences that pale in comparison to what Hammond faces and highlight the U.S.’ overreach when it comes to cybercrime prosecutions. The longest sentence handed down in the U.K. cases carried a maximum of 15 months jail time. Meanwhile, as Hammond expressed in a statement Tuesday, he could have faced 30 years in prison were he to have been found guilty at trial. His supporters and legal team are now asking his presiding judge to hand down a sentence far less harsh than the possible 10 years his plea agreement can carry.
Uhm. How is this overreach?
This is NOT his first CFAA violation. He did 2 years in federal lockup previously for THE EXACT SAME CRIME several years back?
Worse, he started this little shindig while still on parole from the first offense!
Not to mention other convictions for assault and battery, theft, assaulting a police officer, etc.
This guy isn't a hero. He's not a crusader. He's not a moral compass. Hell, he hasn't actually even done anything ORIGINAL. His basic idea, steal a bunch of credit cards and donate to liberal causes? Hello? Sneakers?
He's a glory hound with delusions of grandeur.
The whole reason he got ID'ed for this was he HAD to drop his "cred" about his past endeavors. All he had to do was STFU. And he was constitutionally incapable of that.
I've met this guy. I've had dealings with this guy in a social setting for a couple years.
He can be very likable when he wants to.
But when he doesn't get his way, he's absolutely toxic.
People as "why doesn't the government recruit him!".
He's not a hacker. He's a one-trick pony. He's a script kiddie who happens to be better than average with someone else's tools. This is the same guy who went to a zero-day security newsgroup and exhorted the regulars to hold back the "best stuff" for themselves. So they could "look like gods" to all the up and coming hackers...
Jeremy Hammond does NOT need lenience at this point. He needs a more lengthy incarceration and some intensive psychological therapy to relive his attention-seeking, destructive tendencies.
And China's putting out about 24%. With industrialization and population growing apace. India's kicking out another 14%. And their population isn't shrinking either.
Just regulate ownership of absolutely anything that could conceivably be used as or to create a weapon.
Fucking idiots.
How the hell people this stupid actually manage to wake up in the morning (let alone make it through the day) without dying through their own stupidity is a friggin' miracle. And an absolute tragedy for humanity as a whole.
Hello? Seven BILLION people? And enough livestock to actually feed a good chunk of them? Hell, the planetary population only two billion in something like 1925? Yet we've nearly quadrupled population in the last 90 years? Roughly half of which live in central and eastern Asia? Countries where their pollution output would shame early 20th century industrialists? Yeah, fossil fuel has a good deal to do with it. But let's not pretend the sheer mass of humanity itself isn't contributing greatly to increased CO2.
As an end-user, I'm NOT going to put up with a solution like this.
Even if it somehow performs better than current hybrid drives. Even though most of my work is done on a Windows platform.
Hybrid drives are already a big compromise for minute gains. Tying it to an OS choice?
NO FUCKING THANKS WESTERN DIGITAL!
In a budget situation I'd rather just put up with a competitor's hybrid or a plain old mechanical disk. In a performance situation I'd rather just spring the extra cash for a real SSD. Better returns and more flexible.
Ooh! It's dead! Shove that giant metal spear into it's chest to be sure! *LIGHTNING BOLT!* *Zombie CISPA* It's alive! Let's give it a new name! We shall call it FOICRRA! Fuck Over Internet Constituency Rights Rapeage Act! Let's get a vote!
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For a first time offender? I agree.
For a repeat offender? Not so much.
And Jeremy's a repeat offender.
Okay. Go into 7-11. Shoot the clerk and rob the store.
Now do your time.
Now repeat the same offense.
You're going to go away for LONGER this time.
Jeremy basically broke into a business' server and stole credit cards (and did time for it) previously.
So he's now being charged as a repeat offender.
Whether or not Hammond benefited PERSONALLY from the hack is IRRELEVANT.
If you break into a home or business, and take nothing, you're STILL guilty of breaking and entering.
In this case, he DID take those credit card numbers. So it's even more clear-cut than that.
Again,
Jeremy is INTIMATELY familiar with this particular law. Having broke the same exact law, in the same exact way, and getting 2 years in jail for it about 5 years ago.
Hell, he even started these shenanigans WHILE HE WAS ON PAROLE!
Actually, Jeremy should know this law fairly well.
It's the same law, and the same set of circumstances, that got him tossed in lockup in Greenville, IL for 2 years back in 2007.
And Jeremy's constitutionally INCAPABLE of not getting caught.
He WANTS people to know how "l33t" he is. That's what actually GOT him caught this time. He couldn't shut up and wound up blathering enough facts about himself to an informant to get ID'ed and then monitored for a sting.
Wow. Sounds like you've met this guy.
I have, and it pretty much sums him up to a tee.
Ah. FUD!
If da gub-mint wants to put ya in jail, you is goin' ta jail! They gonna fight dirty!
Yes! The Evil Military Industrial Complex Will Punish You! FNORD!
This isn't about some fantasy of an innocent guy framed by The Man here. This is a scumbag, repeat-offending CRIMINAL who got caught because he couldn't NOT brag about how "elite" he was.
Jeremy DOES "feel innocent". Because in Jeremy's World, Jeremy does no wrong. Jeremy is "misunderstood". Jeremy knows better than anyone else. Because only Jeremy has a heart and a brain. What's wrong with theft and vandalism? Everyone (except Jeremy of course) should be living in exactly identical block-houses eating exactly the same food and giving up the whole of the fruits of their labor to Jeremy so he can "more fairly" redistribute it.
The same INSTANCE of the same crime.
You robbed a 7/11 on 01/01/2013.
You robbed the same 7/11 on 02/01/2013
You robbed the same 7/11 on 03/01/2013.
You can be tried, in serial, for each of them. Though, for brevity's sake, prosecutors tend to concatenate them.
But yes, it's possible to be cleared of the 01/01 robbery and still have to go to trial for the 02/01 and 03/01 offenses if they charges weren't amalgamated into a single list of offenses.
If they can prove they didn't do it? No. We shouldn't punish them.
Unfortunately, Hammond did this. He knows he did it.
He knows the government and Stratfor have him dead to rights.
It is true.
I may not have seen the evidence, but the way it's laid out, it's Jeremy's standard MO.
And I'm rather intimately familiar with Jeremy's MO. Having seen it in action first-hand.
It's basically a super-sized version of his last CFAA offense. The one that got him sent to Greenville, IL correctional for 2 years.
As noted here earlier this month, three young hackers in Britain convicted of similar charges relating to the Stratfor hack received sentences that pale in comparison to what Hammond faces and highlight the U.S.’ overreach when it comes to cybercrime prosecutions. The longest sentence handed down in the U.K. cases carried a maximum of 15 months jail time. Meanwhile, as Hammond expressed in a statement Tuesday, he could have faced 30 years in prison were he to have been found guilty at trial. His supporters and legal team are now asking his presiding judge to hand down a sentence far less harsh than the possible 10 years his plea agreement can carry.
Uhm. How is this overreach?
This is NOT his first CFAA violation. He did 2 years in federal lockup previously for THE EXACT SAME CRIME several years back?
Worse, he started this little shindig while still on parole from the first offense!
Not to mention other convictions for assault and battery, theft, assaulting a police officer, etc.
This guy isn't a hero. He's not a crusader. He's not a moral compass. Hell, he hasn't actually even done anything ORIGINAL. His basic idea, steal a bunch of credit cards and donate to liberal causes? Hello? Sneakers?
He's a glory hound with delusions of grandeur.
The whole reason he got ID'ed for this was he HAD to drop his "cred" about his past endeavors. All he had to do was STFU. And he was constitutionally incapable of that.
I've met this guy. I've had dealings with this guy in a social setting for a couple years.
He can be very likable when he wants to.
But when he doesn't get his way, he's absolutely toxic.
People as "why doesn't the government recruit him!".
He's not a hacker. He's a one-trick pony. He's a script kiddie who happens to be better than average with someone else's tools.
This is the same guy who went to a zero-day security newsgroup and exhorted the regulars to hold back the "best stuff" for themselves. So they could "look like gods" to all the up and coming hackers...
Cue gales of derisive laughter.
Here's his talk at DefCon '04 about "Electronic Civil Disobedience". Basically it was "break shit of people you don't agree with, just to break shit". And he hasn't moved on from this. Ever.
Jeremy Hammond does NOT need lenience at this point. He needs a more lengthy incarceration and some intensive psychological therapy to relive his attention-seeking, destructive tendencies.
Oh yes. We MUST worry about looking "dated".
http://www.dangermouse.net/blog/images/trek/TheWayToEden.jpg
Can't have that!
And fight scenes! In an "intellectual" Trek flick!
http://m0vie.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/tos-courtmartial15.jpg
After all, who is in business to make a lost ?
Liebler, Abrams and Lindeloff?
18%.
And China's putting out about 24%. With industrialization and population growing apace.
India's kicking out another 14%. And their population isn't shrinking either.
Actually. Population reduction is ridiculously EASY.
what a bunch of eunuchs we've become
What happened to the unmaker faires?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeNdH2ByfCM
Orson Scott Card and that damn Alvin!
Why don't we just go all the way here?
Just regulate ownership of absolutely anything that could conceivably be used as or to create a weapon.
Fucking idiots.
How the hell people this stupid actually manage to wake up in the morning (let alone make it through the day) without dying through their own stupidity is a friggin' miracle. And an absolute tragedy for humanity as a whole.
Hello? Seven BILLION people?
And enough livestock to actually feed a good chunk of them?
Hell, the planetary population only two billion in something like 1925?
Yet we've nearly quadrupled population in the last 90 years?
Roughly half of which live in central and eastern Asia? Countries where their pollution output would shame early 20th century industrialists?
Yeah, fossil fuel has a good deal to do with it. But let's not pretend the sheer mass of humanity itself isn't contributing greatly to increased CO2.
Pfft.
Widgets forever!
You and your pansy little girly-gadgets!
As an end-user, I'm NOT going to put up with a solution like this.
Even if it somehow performs better than current hybrid drives.
Even though most of my work is done on a Windows platform.
Hybrid drives are already a big compromise for minute gains.
Tying it to an OS choice?
NO FUCKING THANKS WESTERN DIGITAL!
In a budget situation I'd rather just put up with a competitor's hybrid or a plain old mechanical disk.
In a performance situation I'd rather just spring the extra cash for a real SSD. Better returns and more flexible.
Seriously guys. Think about it. If you had to shoot a kid out from that region of your body, how long would it take YOU to recover?
She did all the work. You just had a bit of fun.
Not one shit was given...
That's like saying "The answer to our energy needs is in the Earth's core".
Sure. That may be true. But actually GETTING there and doing anything in that particular area is a very dangerous proposition.
You don't put luddites with an IQ of near-zero in charge of science and finance.
Ooh! It's dead!
Shove that giant metal spear into it's chest to be sure!
*LIGHTNING BOLT!*
*Zombie CISPA*
It's alive! Let's give it a new name!
We shall call it FOICRRA! Fuck Over Internet Constituency Rights Rapeage Act!
Let's get a vote!