If you really can find something that people will advertise to one another because it's IPv6, it could make sense. 20% of ipv6 users is much better than 0.000001% of all internet users, even if only 1% of all internet users are ipv6 users.
I can attest that if you build it, they will not come. I built a free site to help people buy & sell either locally (location based search) or nationally (http://frimp.net) about 4-5 years ago. It doesn't do auctions, but it's free (as opposed to eBay), and easy to use and works everywhere in the US (as opposed to Craigslist).
I didn't really advertise, because I have no real idea how to - I ran an ad in the Dallas Morning News, which got me about 100 new members. I ran some ads on Google, to little effect. I'm not sure whether either ad paid for itself or not.
Anyway, four years later, I have about 2000 people signed up on the site. It's not insignificant, but it's not going to pay back 1% of what I've invested in effort, either.
My point is that if you can come up with some (ugh) gimmick to get people to talk about your whatsit, even if the people who talk about it belong to some very limited group, it can make a big difference. Of course, that assumes that people using ipv6, or people who might be likely to use ipv6, talk to one another.
If you can produce a product at 5% the cost of anyone else, and you maximize profit by providing it to the customer at 95% of the cost to buy from anyone else...
Of course, usually if you really can provide it at 5% of the cost, # of customers x $$$ profit per customer is higher for lower $$$ per customer. I'm just trying to point out that % discount to produce a product != % discount for a customer to buy the product.
I wasn't arguing the experience angle - I was intending to rebut your argument that Democrats were the ones primarily misrepresenting the facts. Since the specific fact you listed was that Democrats were representing Palin as a small-town extremist, I was trying to point out that to some significant degree, she *is* a small town extremist.
I do agree that it's not worthwhile to bring it up. I also agree with the various people here pointing out that paying any attention at all to Palin is really a mistake on the Democratic campaign's part.
I even agree that Biden was probably a poor choice for a VP. That said, I think Palin was a much worse choice for a VP, at least from the POV of her actually serving (rather than as a campaign tactic). McCain made the choice off the cuff, and I think it's representative of one of the key differences between McCain and Obama: impulsiveness versus thoughtfulness.
What about Palin's repeated claims that she turned down Congress's support of the Bridge to Nowhere?
The fact is that she *campaigned on* her efforts to get federal dollars for the Bridge, that she continued to push for the Bridge until it was clearly never going to happen, then she *still* took $200 million in federal funds for the Bridge - she just spent it on other Alaskan transportation.
Palin is the governor of a state that has a smaller population ( 700k) than many cities, and she brings up much the same scary rhetoric about Iraq being God's plan as Bush. (To be fair, she does say we should pray that the war is God's plan and that we are following it, but she says it in a confusing way that I'm pretty sure is intended to sound like a claim of divine support for the war to her fundamentalist supporters.)
Claims that she is a small town extremist are much more accurate than what she says about herself in her own speeches.
(Notice that the sort in wikipedia is text based - after sorting, you have to mentally move the top two entries to the bottom to get the real numeric sort.)
The sort neatly puts ALL democrats at the top of the chart, and ALL republicans at the bottom, with one democrat exception (Roosevelt/Truman, who would have placed third best as a Republican).
That's right, since 1929, the second worst democratic record of job creation beats the best republican record. Now, some of that must be luck, but the evidence is astoundingly strong that having a democratic president is simply much better for the economy than having a republican president.
Remember that, and remember how well trickle down economics worked for Reagan and Bush, the next time you hear McCain say his tax cuts for the rich are just there to keep jobs in America.
You're right, that this is just a change in the level of effort to get public photos tagged. I agree that it's not something people should freak out over because it destroys their privacy.
That said, changes in the level of effort to do something make all the difference in the world. Before the internet, I could go to a library and read books, magazines & newspapers on a topic. I could send people snail mail or call them. Being able to use the internet to do these things trivially is a quantitative difference that makes a huge qualitative difference.
Privacy will be nonexistent for our children. Video cameras and internet connections will be dirt cheap, and sharing video on the web will be trivial. Software to automatically recognize what's being done, and who's doing it, will be ubiquitous. Searching that information will be easy. Stitching together multiple video feeds to build viewpoints where no physical camera existed and continuous video when no single camera viewed all the action will be done for you, transparently.
People will mark up video and people with their thoughts & comments.
Everything you do that's visible from a public place, and most things you do anywhere else, will be common knowledge. Get used to it; it's unavoidable.
Read the chart again. The chart is based on the number of jobs at the start of the term and the number of jobs at the end of the term, not on how many times people got hired.
You're seriously proposing that the economy is better now than it was during the Clinton years?
I remember when all the internet companies that had no business model went under, yes. I was employed through it, making about 40% more than I ever had before. I don't think that's typical, by any means, but neither is your experience.
(Notice that the built-in sorting algorithm is textual - you have to mentally move the top two entries to the bottom to get the real numeric sort.)
The sort neatly puts ALL democrats at the top of the chart, and ALL republicans at the bottom, with one exception (Roosevelt/Truman).
That's right, since 1929, the second worst democratic record of job creation beats the best republican record. Now, some of that is luck, but the evidence is astoundingly strong that having a democratic president is simply much better for the economy than having a republican president.
Hmm, 5 million jobs added under Bush's tenure, OK.
Wait, 23 million (!) jobs added under Clinton's tenure.
Yeah, those tax cuts for the rich sure do "keep jobs in America" (to quote McCain).
Bush happens to have the worst record on jobs created since 1961 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_created_during_U.S._presidential_terms). Yeah, give me some more of that!
Notice how well "trickle down" economics worked when Reagan tried them, too.
When you change or set your password in a well-programmed website, it *adds a random salt* and then hashes the password.
Otherwise the db of encrypted passwords is susceptible to rainbow tables.
I'm sure lots of readers already know that, but I'd hate for someone to think they had good security based on reading 99% correct anecdotes like that, then have all their customers' passwords compromised because they forgot to salt them.
Personally, I don't care if things are better or worse for the Afghans. They attacked my country, and AFAIC they're just damned lucky they're not a radioactive hole in the ground.
Er, a *very few* *specific* people attacked the US. I'll agree with you that those people responsible should be dealt with.
As far as Afghans go, "they" didn't attack your country, any more than "you" killed thousands of civilians in Iraq. By your logic, if Iraq had the resources to do it, the whole US should be a radioactive crater.
Well, actually I *do* know the difference between ionized hydrogen and hydrogen plasma - hydrogen plasma may have all the electrons present, they just won't "stick" too the atoms because they're too energetic (i.e. hot).
By definition, atoms in a plasma have lost their electrons due to temperature.
I really just wanted to point out that they're very similar. I'm sure HRogge is right regarding the differences.
This sounds a lot to me like it *is* an ion drive. I didn't RTFA, but a plasma is characterized by a separation of the electrons from the nuclei. The only difference between that and an ion drive is that not necessarily all electrons are stripped from the atom in an ion drive.
I don't know how (or if) you would distinguish between ionic hydrogen and a hydrogen plasma (hydrogen atoms have only one electron...)
In both cases you give the propellant momentum with either electric or electromagnetic force, and both are much more efficient than chemical rockets. I would also expect both to have miniscule thrust compared to chemical rockets, and hence only be appropriate for navigation when you already have orbital or superorbital velocities.
I was a lab grunt for Dr. Shams (not sure of spelling, Pakistani guy) and Dr. Sheng at the University of Arkansas on the superconductivity lab. Dr. Sheng actually held the world record on high temperature superconductors for about 5-8 years, for Tl2Ca2Cu3Ox (a thallium based ceramic superconductor).
Our only precautions were to put on a mask and latex gloves before opening the thallium bottle and to clean up any spills. I had been told that about 4 grams was enough to kill me, and it accumulates as it's a heavy metal.
I'm fine and apparently quite fertile, since I have three kids and we only meant to have two:-) All are perfectly healthy.
This is *not* intended as an anecdote to convince you that handling thallium is safe. I just thought it was interesting that we didn't have more safety features in place. I hope they do now!
Although I certainly didn't put 2 & 2 together enough to realize this when reading, Ozymandias gives a hint of his attitude when he repeatedly compares himself to Alexander the Great.
Alexander the Great wasn't called that because he was a great guy. He was called that because he ruled a vast piece of territory and brought prosperity to those he ruled. He achieved that rule by killing lots of people who hadn't done anything wrong other than oppose being ruled by him.
I dunno, if Texas starts hauling all their garbage to the border and firing thousands of tons a day out of a cannon at Oklahoma (which I'm sure many Texans would consider a fine idea), that would certainly fall under the federal government's jurisdiction.
Why does it matter if the garbage is floating in the air or water?
First, I didn't say treat it as if it's a disease, I said treat it as if it's treatable.
Second, 'superstition' makes no sense in your play on words.
Finally, why in the world is it idiocy that we treat aging as if it can be treated? We already know some aspects of aging can be treated. It's just a complex chemical process (as are essentially all biological processes). To ignore the possibility of treating a process that will eventually kill each and every one of us if we don't get killed by something else first sure sounds like the height of idiocy to me.
What's worse, though, is the derision heaped upon people promoting the idea of fighting aging. That's why I said that Aubrey's public stand is important, even if he contributes nothing to the science.
Most were sure that heavier than air machines couldn't fly, no one could travel faster than sound, and travel through space was impossible less than a decade before each of those things happened.
Per his Wikipedia entry he was in fact awarded a PhD from Cambridge. He did apparently get it without studying biology at Cambridge, which is pretty weird. Of course, that's also Wikipedia, so take it with an appropriately sized grain of salt.
It does look as if his biology credentials are weak (if one can even glean that from a Wikipedia entry), but it also looks as if he sincerely believes in the work.
On the other hand, I think someone taking a public stand and saying "treat this is a solvable problem" is doing a great service. It's sheer idiocy and superstition that we treat aging as if it's untreatable.
Because he has the same overpowering incentive to do the work that investors would have to invest in it?
Because he's dedicated his life to longevity research and made many breakthroughs in the field?
Why in the world would you propose someone is a charlatan when they in fact have dedicated massive (and to some degree, successful) effort to the cause you're proposing they're being fraudulent about?
Thank you so much for making the point about the insane precedent this establishes. It was enough to finally make me get off my butt and call my senators about it.
For those who haven't called: If you're a US citizen, you can go to https://secure.eff.org/site/Advocacy?alertId=389&pg=makeACall and fill in your zipcode to get your senators' phone numbers and a script to read to them to indicate your opposition to the FISA Amendments Act and support for the amendments that remove the telecom immunity from the act.
It's interesting that my *point* was that the software is unfinished, and known to be unfinished, and your response was to point out to me where the software doesn't support the *hardware* you're claiming the Freerunner doesn't have.
The hardware is there. The software to support that hardware is unfinished. If you're testing things using the ASU, you're crazy.
BTW, I'v owned a Neo1973 (the dev release predecessor to the Freerunner) for about six months, so I'm not talking totally out of my ass here. I have not done any testing with Freerunner, all I'm going on there is what I see in the mailing lists & chat room.
Honestly, I'm somewhat disenchanted with OpenMoko right now. Ceasing support for the GTK platform to work on ASU was a phenomenally bad idea. However, the fso release sounds very promising. The project is very young, and already provides stable calls with suspend/resume on call.
Regarding the headset, it sounds as if you got a bad one. I would report it and ask for a replacement.
I'm pretty sure I would have heard about that battery issue. I have heard the opposite of what you're claiming, though - reports were that the Freerunner in suspend mode (which WILL wake on calls; it's really like what a normal cell phone does after X minutes of inactivity) lived for > 24 hours, and looked like it would work for a week based on battery levels.
GPS has been an issue, and honestly I've heard reports both ways - people saying they get the behavior you got, and others saying they get a fix in 2 minutes (which is still crappy) when they're standing still outside. AGPS will improve those fix times.
Honestly, all this sounds like you just want to bitch. Anyone who had enough info to know where to purchase one of these should have known that the SOFTWARE IS NOT READY. I have never seen you or your complaints in irc or on the mailing list, so I can only speculate that you have no interest in solving problems, just bitching about them.
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If you really can find something that people will advertise to one another because it's IPv6, it could make sense. 20% of ipv6 users is much better than 0.000001% of all internet users, even if only 1% of all internet users are ipv6 users.
I can attest that if you build it, they will not come. I built a free site to help people buy & sell either locally (location based search) or nationally (http://frimp.net) about 4-5 years ago. It doesn't do auctions, but it's free (as opposed to eBay), and easy to use and works everywhere in the US (as opposed to Craigslist).
I didn't really advertise, because I have no real idea how to - I ran an ad in the Dallas Morning News, which got me about 100 new members. I ran some ads on Google, to little effect. I'm not sure whether either ad paid for itself or not.
Anyway, four years later, I have about 2000 people signed up on the site. It's not insignificant, but it's not going to pay back 1% of what I've invested in effort, either.
My point is that if you can come up with some (ugh) gimmick to get people to talk about your whatsit, even if the people who talk about it belong to some very limited group, it can make a big difference. Of course, that assumes that people using ipv6, or people who might be likely to use ipv6, talk to one another.
If you can produce a product at 5% the cost of anyone else, and you maximize profit by providing it to the customer at 95% of the cost to buy from anyone else...
Of course, usually if you really can provide it at 5% of the cost, # of customers x $$$ profit per customer is higher for lower $$$ per customer. I'm just trying to point out that % discount to produce a product != % discount for a customer to buy the product.
I wasn't arguing the experience angle - I was intending to rebut your argument that Democrats were the ones primarily misrepresenting the facts. Since the specific fact you listed was that Democrats were representing Palin as a small-town extremist, I was trying to point out that to some significant degree, she *is* a small town extremist.
I do agree that it's not worthwhile to bring it up. I also agree with the various people here pointing out that paying any attention at all to Palin is really a mistake on the Democratic campaign's part.
I even agree that Biden was probably a poor choice for a VP. That said, I think Palin was a much worse choice for a VP, at least from the POV of her actually serving (rather than as a campaign tactic). McCain made the choice off the cuff, and I think it's representative of one of the key differences between McCain and Obama: impulsiveness versus thoughtfulness.
*Democrats* are blowing smoke?
What about Palin's repeated claims that she turned down Congress's support of the Bridge to Nowhere?
The fact is that she *campaigned on* her efforts to get federal dollars for the Bridge, that she continued to push for the Bridge until it was clearly never going to happen, then she *still* took $200 million in federal funds for the Bridge - she just spent it on other Alaskan transportation.
Palin is the governor of a state that has a smaller population ( 700k) than many cities, and she brings up much the same scary rhetoric about Iraq being God's plan as Bush. (To be fair, she does say we should pray that the war is God's plan and that we are following it, but she says it in a confusing way that I'm pretty sure is intended to sound like a claim of divine support for the war to her fundamentalist supporters.)
Claims that she is a small town extremist are much more accurate than what she says about herself in her own speeches.
Check out Wikipedia's page on jobs created during each president's term.
Sort that chart of jobs created during each president's term by the Average Annual Increase:
(Notice that the sort in wikipedia is text based - after sorting, you have to mentally move the top two entries to the bottom to get the real numeric sort.)
The sort neatly puts ALL democrats at the top of the chart, and ALL republicans at the bottom, with one democrat exception (Roosevelt/Truman, who would have placed third best as a Republican).
That's right, since 1929, the second worst democratic record of job creation beats the best republican record. Now, some of that must be luck, but the evidence is astoundingly strong that having a democratic president is simply much better for the economy than having a republican president.
Remember that, and remember how well trickle down economics worked for Reagan and Bush, the next time you hear McCain say his tax cuts for the rich are just there to keep jobs in America.
You're right, that this is just a change in the level of effort to get public photos tagged. I agree that it's not something people should freak out over because it destroys their privacy.
That said, changes in the level of effort to do something make all the difference in the world. Before the internet, I could go to a library and read books, magazines & newspapers on a topic. I could send people snail mail or call them. Being able to use the internet to do these things trivially is a quantitative difference that makes a huge qualitative difference.
Privacy will be nonexistent for our children. Video cameras and internet connections will be dirt cheap, and sharing video on the web will be trivial. Software to automatically recognize what's being done, and who's doing it, will be ubiquitous. Searching that information will be easy. Stitching together multiple video feeds to build viewpoints where no physical camera existed and continuous video when no single camera viewed all the action will be done for you, transparently.
People will mark up video and people with their thoughts & comments.
Everything you do that's visible from a public place, and most things you do anywhere else, will be common knowledge. Get used to it; it's unavoidable.
Read the chart again. The chart is based on the number of jobs at the start of the term and the number of jobs at the end of the term, not on how many times people got hired.
You're seriously proposing that the economy is better now than it was during the Clinton years?
I remember when all the internet companies that had no business model went under, yes. I was employed through it, making about 40% more than I ever had before. I don't think that's typical, by any means, but neither is your experience.
Well, a more shocking arrangement of the facts...
Sort that chart of jobs created during each president's term by the Average Annual Increase: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_created_during_U.S._presidential_terms#Job_creation_by_term
(Notice that the built-in sorting algorithm is textual - you have to mentally move the top two entries to the bottom to get the real numeric sort.)
The sort neatly puts ALL democrats at the top of the chart, and ALL republicans at the bottom, with one exception (Roosevelt/Truman).
That's right, since 1929, the second worst democratic record of job creation beats the best republican record. Now, some of that is luck, but the evidence is astoundingly strong that having a democratic president is simply much better for the economy than having a republican president.
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/05/the-bush-jobs-record/
Hmm, 5 million jobs added under Bush's tenure, OK.
Wait, 23 million (!) jobs added under Clinton's tenure.
Yeah, those tax cuts for the rich sure do "keep jobs in America" (to quote McCain).
Bush happens to have the worst record on jobs created since 1961 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_created_during_U.S._presidential_terms). Yeah, give me some more of that!
Notice how well "trickle down" economics worked when Reagan tried them, too.
When you change or set your password in a well-programmed website, it *adds a random salt* and then hashes the password.
Otherwise the db of encrypted passwords is susceptible to rainbow tables.
I'm sure lots of readers already know that, but I'd hate for someone to think they had good security based on reading 99% correct anecdotes like that, then have all their customers' passwords compromised because they forgot to salt them.
Yaknow, plants take in CO2 and water, and turn it into sugar and oxygen?
I dunno, I hunted rabbits and squirrels and I don't remember that it made any particular impression on me.
Er, a *very few* *specific* people attacked the US. I'll agree with you that those people responsible should be dealt with.
As far as Afghans go, "they" didn't attack your country, any more than "you" killed thousands of civilians in Iraq. By your logic, if Iraq had the resources to do it, the whole US should be a radioactive crater.
Well, actually I *do* know the difference between ionized hydrogen and hydrogen plasma - hydrogen plasma may have all the electrons present, they just won't "stick" too the atoms because they're too energetic (i.e. hot).
By definition, atoms in a plasma have lost their electrons due to temperature.
I really just wanted to point out that they're very similar. I'm sure HRogge is right regarding the differences.
This sounds a lot to me like it *is* an ion drive. I didn't RTFA, but a plasma is characterized by a separation of the electrons from the nuclei. The only difference between that and an ion drive is that not necessarily all electrons are stripped from the atom in an ion drive.
I don't know how (or if) you would distinguish between ionic hydrogen and a hydrogen plasma (hydrogen atoms have only one electron...)
In both cases you give the propellant momentum with either electric or electromagnetic force, and both are much more efficient than chemical rockets. I would also expect both to have miniscule thrust compared to chemical rockets, and hence only be appropriate for navigation when you already have orbital or superorbital velocities.
You should read http://www.hpcoders.com.au/theory-of-nothing.pdf
I was a lab grunt for Dr. Shams (not sure of spelling, Pakistani guy) and Dr. Sheng at the University of Arkansas on the superconductivity lab. Dr. Sheng actually held the world record on high temperature superconductors for about 5-8 years, for Tl2Ca2Cu3Ox (a thallium based ceramic superconductor).
Our only precautions were to put on a mask and latex gloves before opening the thallium bottle and to clean up any spills. I had been told that about 4 grams was enough to kill me, and it accumulates as it's a heavy metal.
I'm fine and apparently quite fertile, since I have three kids and we only meant to have two :-) All are perfectly healthy.
This is *not* intended as an anecdote to convince you that handling thallium is safe. I just thought it was interesting that we didn't have more safety features in place. I hope they do now!
Although I certainly didn't put 2 & 2 together enough to realize this when reading, Ozymandias gives a hint of his attitude when he repeatedly compares himself to Alexander the Great.
Alexander the Great wasn't called that because he was a great guy. He was called that because he ruled a vast piece of territory and brought prosperity to those he ruled. He achieved that rule by killing lots of people who hadn't done anything wrong other than oppose being ruled by him.
I dunno, if Texas starts hauling all their garbage to the border and firing thousands of tons a day out of a cannon at Oklahoma (which I'm sure many Texans would consider a fine idea), that would certainly fall under the federal government's jurisdiction.
Why does it matter if the garbage is floating in the air or water?
First, I didn't say treat it as if it's a disease, I said treat it as if it's treatable.
Second, 'superstition' makes no sense in your play on words.
Finally, why in the world is it idiocy that we treat aging as if it can be treated? We already know some aspects of aging can be treated. It's just a complex chemical process (as are essentially all biological processes). To ignore the possibility of treating a process that will eventually kill each and every one of us if we don't get killed by something else first sure sounds like the height of idiocy to me.
What's worse, though, is the derision heaped upon people promoting the idea of fighting aging. That's why I said that Aubrey's public stand is important, even if he contributes nothing to the science.
Most were sure that heavier than air machines couldn't fly, no one could travel faster than sound, and travel through space was impossible less than a decade before each of those things happened.
Per his Wikipedia entry he was in fact awarded a PhD from Cambridge. He did apparently get it without studying biology at Cambridge, which is pretty weird. Of course, that's also Wikipedia, so take it with an appropriately sized grain of salt.
It does look as if his biology credentials are weak (if one can even glean that from a Wikipedia entry), but it also looks as if he sincerely believes in the work.
On the other hand, I think someone taking a public stand and saying "treat this is a solvable problem" is doing a great service. It's sheer idiocy and superstition that we treat aging as if it's untreatable.
Because he has the same overpowering incentive to do the work that investors would have to invest in it?
Because he's dedicated his life to longevity research and made many breakthroughs in the field?
Why in the world would you propose someone is a charlatan when they in fact have dedicated massive (and to some degree, successful) effort to the cause you're proposing they're being fraudulent about?
Because the statistical rate of death from accidents involving major trauma yields about one event every 1000 years.
He's assuming we can solve the aging & disease problems, but not being splattered by a semi.
Thank you so much for making the point about the insane precedent this establishes. It was enough to finally make me get off my butt and call my senators about it.
For those who haven't called:
If you're a US citizen, you can go to https://secure.eff.org/site/Advocacy?alertId=389&pg=makeACall and fill in your zipcode to get your senators' phone numbers and a script to read to them to indicate your opposition to the FISA Amendments Act and support for the amendments that remove the telecom immunity from the act.
It's interesting that my *point* was that the software is unfinished, and known to be unfinished, and your response was to point out to me where the software doesn't support the *hardware* you're claiming the Freerunner doesn't have.
The hardware is there. The software to support that hardware is unfinished. If you're testing things using the ASU, you're crazy.
BTW, I'v owned a Neo1973 (the dev release predecessor to the Freerunner) for about six months, so I'm not talking totally out of my ass here. I have not done any testing with Freerunner, all I'm going on there is what I see in the mailing lists & chat room.
Honestly, I'm somewhat disenchanted with OpenMoko right now. Ceasing support for the GTK platform to work on ASU was a phenomenally bad idea. However, the fso release sounds very promising. The project is very young, and already provides stable calls with suspend/resume on call.
Regarding the headset, it sounds as if you got a bad one. I would report it and ask for a replacement.
I'm pretty sure I would have heard about that battery issue. I have heard the opposite of what you're claiming, though - reports were that the Freerunner in suspend mode (which WILL wake on calls; it's really like what a normal cell phone does after X minutes of inactivity) lived for > 24 hours, and looked like it would work for a week based on battery levels.
GPS has been an issue, and honestly I've heard reports both ways - people saying they get the behavior you got, and others saying they get a fix in 2 minutes (which is still crappy) when they're standing still outside. AGPS will improve those fix times.
Honestly, all this sounds like you just want to bitch. Anyone who had enough info to know where to purchase one of these should have known that the SOFTWARE IS NOT READY. I have never seen you or your complaints in irc or on the mailing list, so I can only speculate that you have no interest in solving problems, just bitching about them.