> RSA and DSA are two algorithms which are used in a similar fashion.
You're missing his point. RSA can be used for encryption (and therefore key exchange), but DSA is signature only and can't (on its own).
Looking at an ssl man page, the answer is in version 2 of the protocol they are both used for signature only because the actual session key is derived using Diffie-Hellman.
> three root claims in this particular patent. To wit, claims 1, 29, and 37
All of which mention "point of sale".
> if you get one of the really narrow claims, you get all of its predecessors too
Conversely, if FTP isn't prior art for the broadest claims, it can't be prior art for any of the narrower ones.
> Aren't there laser turntables which don't damage the record at all now?
Yes - http://stereotimes.com/ELP_Turntable.htm
I'd heard that because they don't push tiny dust particles out of the way it ends up not sounding as good as a needle, but this review says the built in cleaning machine does handle that.
On the other hand, they aren't cheap -
http://www.elpj.com/purchase.html
He said his car was broken into, not stolen. And the car is (presumably) insured, but most insurance won't include that much contents cover. And replacing a car means finding one suitable car, replacing hundreds of CDs means replacing hundreds of CDs, sme of which might be hard to find now.
> As you no longer possess the physical media, I imagine the RIAA would make the case that you no longer have anything to back up
He said he was going to make backup copies in future so he needn't keep originals in the car. If he'd done that, he'd still have the originals, so he could legally make new backups.
The thief would have "stolen" the music (the owner still has the original, so it's not really stolen any more than making illegal copies is stealing), but he's a real thief anyway (he took the CDs and stereo), so he doesn't care.
> Thing 2: Current speed sailing record is 46.52 knots, held by Yellow Pages Endeavour
"break various water speed records". Not necessarily including the outright speed record.
From the Alstom site: '"Hydroptère" has the ambition to beat world speed record : 24 hour distance world record, the Altlantic crossing record and the Pacific crossing record.'
Can you really see YPE doing a 24 hour run, let alone a Pacific crossing? --
> 'material object' then 'non-material information' doesn't get covered
"information in material objects" does. They say
"By way of another example, a floppy disk is a material object in which information in the form of programs can be fixed". Now if you can fix information in non-material form, you're fine.
It's not really "every software download". It's downloads "uniquely identified by a catalog code" to a "point of sale". I suppose a file path might be "a catalog code", though it sounds dubious, but FTP doesn't involve a "point of sale".
Sure, it's still a dumb patent that should never have been granted, but it isn't _that_ dumb.
> There are camcorders now out there that can do 1280x960 still images, but I don't think Sony makes one
http://64.14.40.97:80/explore_products/productin de x.jsp#Digital8
"Megapixel (1/4" 1,070k Pixels) CCD imager built in for high quality still images and MPEG Movie Mode to capture 60 second MPEG movie clips are two new features added to the DCR-TR730"
Ok, 1,070k is less than 1280x960, but it's more than 640x480. And if that MPEG clip can go to the Memory Stick interface (with "Memory Stick® PC Card Adapter" being listed as an optional accessory), something like this could be useful. --
> It does the same cool color change thing when it hits water
According to my first year materials lecturer, that's the "evil esters". They're soluble in water, and in alcohol, but not in most mixtures of the two. So they start dissolved in alcohol, precipitate out when you add water, and eventually dissolve again if you add a lot of water.
Then we moved onto the phase diagram for carbon and iron, which is rather more complicated...
> I'll bet the first language without line numbers raised a lot of eyebrows too.
Not for having line numbers. Eyebrows were raised about the whole idea of wasting computer time in compilation when people could write machine code by hand. (Still earlier there were objections to wasting processor time on conversion to decimal output when people could learn to read hex).
FORTRAN had no line numbers when it first appeared. Nor did Algol. Nor COBOL.
Irish legend also holds that Saint Brendan discovered America well before Columbus or the Vikings did. And just to prove it, Tim Severin built a leather currach
He didn't prove it happened, he proved the journey was possible. But yes, it was impressive. There's also information at http://www.timseverin.net
He also sailed the Pacific "on a bamboo raft to test the theory that Asian sailors reached America some 2,000 years ago." --
> "We tried it once and then decided it wasn't worth it." Your post was facetious, but painfully close to what I've seen
Me too, sort of. We tried it, we agreed it was a good thing and we ought to do more - but they never actually happened, because the short term time pressure never left time to do it, even though we agreed it almost certainly would save time in the long run.
> Actually, wouldn't this "established" be a security hole in its own right?
I assume there is an option to specify ranges for new connections associated with existing connections on specific ports (at least when a well-designed firewall is set up correctly).
But I don't actually know, which is why I suggest reading your manual. (I'm confident our sysadmins know, but I don't plan on wasting their time just so I can give a more detailed answer on Slashdot).
Once my home computer is in a room with a phone socket, I might care about putting a firewall on it (hence "nonerightnow" as email address (work policy says don't use work email addess for usenet etc. (Slashdot is etc.)). If I get a cable modem or ISDN or other always on connection, I definitely will. But I've got to move house first (a long off-topic story).
> > Chances are they had no clue what the 'established' keyword was
> Just out of curiosity: how do you configure a firewall for those kinds of protocol?
Read the manual for your firewall. Try looking up "established" in the index. Or use Google http://www.google.com/search?client=googlet&q=fire wall%20established shows, for example,
"The established command allows the PIX Firewall to deliver traffic associated with protocols for which the firewall software does not have specific support. When the established command is in force, an outside server can make a TCP or UDP connection to any inside host with which it already has a TCP or UDP connection established."
> severing his hand. From then on, I had a key to the whole place.
I realise you were joking, but: that's why they make hand and finger scanners that check for a warm hand with a pulse, and iris and retina scanners that check the eye responds normally to light (and has blood moving in the vessels in the case of retina scans).
Searle's Chinese room argument is about as convincing as "individual neurons can't think, they just fire according to rules, so no collection of neurons can really think either, human brains just _appear_ to think".
No, X, standing for "we called the previous one W, and X is the next letter in the alphabet after W".
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/XWindow-User-HOWTO -2.html#ss2.1
And it's "X" or "the X Window System", not "X-Windows"
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> Majel is his widow, the voice of most computers and Deanna Troi's mother.
She also played Nurse Chapel in the original series. (And the same character as Doctor Chapel and Commander Chapel in some of the movies, according to http://imdb.com/Name?Barrett,+Majel)
She was in the pilot too.
A DAG is not the same thing as a tree. Try this for a refresher.
What the AC said (not having any mod points at the moment). (All trees are DAG's, but not all DAG's are trees - a node in a DAG can have more than parent (e.g. Java inheritance puts classes in a tree, but C++ is a DAG)). --
> As far is known from unclassified/declassified sources, the SR-71 was considered to be too valuable to actually fly over soverign Russian territory
If it was flying over Russia (I'm not saying it was, but _if_ it was), wouldn't you expect that information to be classified, and the unclassified information to try and cover/obscure the fact?
It's plausible that they would react that way, but we'll have to wait for years for information to be declassified to really know.
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> RSA and DSA are two algorithms which are used in a similar fashion.
You're missing his point. RSA can be used for encryption (and therefore key exchange), but DSA is signature only and can't (on its own).
Looking at an ssl man page, the answer is in version 2 of the protocol they are both used for signature only because the actual session key is derived using Diffie-Hellman.
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> The world desperately needs something better than strncpy. But I wouldn't call it StrCpyN :-)
/ millert/millert_html/index.html
strlcpy. http://www.usenix.org/events/usenix99/full_papers
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> three root claims in this particular patent. To wit, claims 1, 29, and 37
All of which mention "point of sale".
> if you get one of the really narrow claims, you get all of its predecessors too
Conversely, if FTP isn't prior art for the broadest claims, it can't be prior art for any of the narrower ones.
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> The only advantage you get with using it is if you use StrCpyN, you can prevent buffer overflows.
You mean "the shell guys" reimplemented strncpy for no good reason as well as strcpy?
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> Aren't there laser turntables which don't damage the record at all now?
Yes - http://stereotimes.com/ELP_Turntable.htm
I'd heard that because they don't push tiny dust particles out of the way it ends up not sounding as good as a needle, but this review says the built in cleaning machine does handle that.
On the other hand, they aren't cheap -
http://www.elpj.com/purchase.html
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He said his car was broken into, not stolen. And the car is (presumably) insured, but most insurance won't include that much contents cover. And replacing a car means finding one suitable car, replacing hundreds of CDs means replacing hundreds of CDs, sme of which might be hard to find now.
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> As you no longer possess the physical media, I imagine the RIAA would make the case that you no longer have anything to back up
He said he was going to make backup copies in future so he needn't keep originals in the car. If he'd done that, he'd still have the originals, so he could legally make new backups.
The thief would have "stolen" the music (the owner still has the original, so it's not really stolen any more than making illegal copies is stealing), but he's a real thief anyway (he took the CDs and stereo), so he doesn't care.
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> Thing 2: Current speed sailing record is 46.52 knots, held by Yellow Pages Endeavour
"break various water speed records". Not necessarily including the outright speed record.
From the Alstom site: '"Hydroptère" has the ambition to beat world speed record : 24 hour distance world record, the Altlantic crossing record and the Pacific crossing record.'
Can you really see YPE doing a 24 hour run, let alone a Pacific crossing?
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> What about the quote: An armed society is a polite society?
What about it? It's a quote from a work of *fiction*.
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> 'material object' then 'non-material information' doesn't get covered
"information in material objects" does. They say
"By way of another example, a floppy disk is a material object in which information in the form of programs can be fixed". Now if you can fix information in non-material form, you're fine.
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It's not really "every software download". It's downloads "uniquely identified by a catalog code" to a "point of sale". I suppose a file path might be "a catalog code", though it sounds dubious, but FTP doesn't involve a "point of sale".
Sure, it's still a dumb patent that should never have been granted, but it isn't _that_ dumb.
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> There are camcorders now out there that can do 1280x960 still images, but I don't think Sony makes one
n de x.jsp#Digital8
http://64.14.40.97:80/explore_products/producti
"Megapixel (1/4" 1,070k Pixels) CCD imager built in for high quality still images and MPEG Movie Mode to capture 60 second MPEG movie clips are two new features added to the DCR-TR730"
Ok, 1,070k is less than 1280x960, but it's more than 640x480. And if that MPEG clip can go to the Memory Stick interface (with "Memory Stick® PC Card Adapter" being listed as an optional accessory), something like this could be useful.
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> It does the same cool color change thing when it hits water
According to my first year materials lecturer, that's the "evil esters". They're soluble in water, and in alcohol, but not in most mixtures of the two. So they start dissolved in alcohol, precipitate out when you add water, and eventually dissolve again if you add a lot of water.
Then we moved onto the phase diagram for carbon and iron, which is rather more complicated...
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> I'll bet the first language without line numbers raised a lot of eyebrows too.
Not for having line numbers. Eyebrows were raised about the whole idea of wasting computer time in compilation when people could write machine code by hand. (Still earlier there were objections to wasting processor time on conversion to decimal output when people could learn to read hex).
FORTRAN had no line numbers when it first appeared. Nor did Algol. Nor COBOL.
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He didn't prove it happened, he proved the journey was possible. But yes, it was impressive. There's also information at http://www.timseverin.net
He also sailed the Pacific "on a bamboo raft to test the theory that Asian sailors reached America some 2,000 years ago."
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> Oops - my bad; it's just LA that're taxing stuff that isn't even on their planet.
If you have any evidence that Andromedans have a corporate base in LA, I think we should be told.
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> "We tried it once and then decided it wasn't worth it." Your post was facetious, but painfully close to what I've seen
Me too, sort of. We tried it, we agreed it was a good thing and we ought to do more - but they never actually happened, because the short term time pressure never left time to do it, even though we agreed it almost certainly would save time in the long run.
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> Actually, wouldn't this "established" be a security hole in its own right?
I assume there is an option to specify ranges for new connections associated with existing connections on specific ports (at least when a well-designed firewall is set up correctly).
But I don't actually know, which is why I suggest reading your manual. (I'm confident our sysadmins know, but I don't plan on wasting their time just so I can give a more detailed answer on Slashdot).
Once my home computer is in a room with a phone socket, I might care about putting a firewall on it (hence "nonerightnow" as email address (work policy says don't use work email addess for usenet etc. (Slashdot is etc.)). If I get a cable modem or ISDN or other always on connection, I definitely will. But I've got to move house first (a long off-topic story).
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> > Chances are they had no clue what the 'established' keyword was
e wall%20established shows, for example,
> Just out of curiosity: how do you configure a firewall for those kinds of protocol?
Read the manual for your firewall. Try looking up "established" in the index. Or use Google http://www.google.com/search?client=googlet&q=fir
"The established command allows the PIX Firewall to deliver traffic associated with protocols for which the firewall software does not have specific support. When the established command is in force, an outside server can make a TCP or UDP connection to any inside host with which it already has a TCP or UDP connection established."
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> severing his hand. From then on, I had a key to the whole place.
I realise you were joking, but: that's why they make hand and finger scanners that check for a warm hand with a pulse, and iris and retina scanners that check the eye responds normally to light (and has blood moving in the vessels in the case of retina scans).
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Searle's Chinese room argument is about as convincing as "individual neurons can't think, they just fire according to rules, so no collection of neurons can really think either, human brains just _appear_ to think".
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> X-Windows, standing for Cross Windows
O -2 .html#ss2.1
No, X, standing for "we called the previous one W, and X is the next letter in the alphabet after W".
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/XWindow-User-HOWT
And it's "X" or "the X Window System", not "X-Windows"
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> Majel is his widow, the voice of most computers and Deanna Troi's mother.
She also played Nurse Chapel in the original series. (And the same character as Doctor Chapel and Commander Chapel in some of the movies, according to http://imdb.com/Name?Barrett,+Majel)
She was in the pilot too.
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A DAG is not the same thing as a tree. Try this for a refresher.
What the AC said (not having any mod points at the moment). (All trees are DAG's, but not all DAG's are trees - a node in a DAG can have more than parent (e.g. Java inheritance puts classes in a tree, but C++ is a DAG)).
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> As far is known from unclassified/declassified sources, the SR-71 was considered to be too valuable to actually fly over soverign Russian territory
If it was flying over Russia (I'm not saying it was, but _if_ it was), wouldn't you expect that information to be classified, and the unclassified information to try and cover/obscure the fact?
It's plausible that they would react that way, but we'll have to wait for years for information to be declassified to really know.
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