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iammichael writes "Scientists scouring the Atlantic Ocean have found huge towers of stone (the tallest ever) that they've named the "The Lost City" since they are located on a seafloor mountain named Atlantis Massif. Read about it on Yahoo news or CNN"
lawyers from Disney Corporation filed suit against U of W for devaluing the name of the Atlantis animated franchise. The city of Anaheim subsequently assessed back taxes against Disney for this (very slowly) mobile property.
And the name of the king of Tir na nOg?
Altan.
I mean it's not to far of a jump from Aztlan to Atlantis and Altan....
here's a working link, you turd.
You know it's been a long night when /. headlines start looking even stranger than usual.
Geesh.
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Chances are, in my opinion, America _was_ atlantis- plato's map of the capital of atlantis was still similar to the centre of Aztlan at the time the Spanish found it, at least a millenium after the events Plato chronicled were supposed to have taken place. I think conventional wisdom has kept quiet the extent of european-american contact in early history - And there's the roman remains recently found in the gulf, suggesting at least a little early european-american contact.
Interestingly, Irish legend places one of the parent races of the Irish people, coming from the west, with advanced technology (for the time - including a prosthetic hand???) - though it must be pointed out that anyone coming by sea from africa or the mediterranean will also finally approach Ireland from the south-west. But Irish legend places the kingdom of the immortals, Tir na nOg, to the west, across the ocean. In fact, every sea-going european race extant at or a bit before plato's time talks about land to the far west of europe....
Yeah, now we just need to find out, who has the stone that matches them. With the luck our civilization had recently, I would guess, it's either Gates, Bush or Arafat ;-P
Contrary to the popular belief, there indeed is no God.
And, thankfully, the reproductive opportunities present in both cases lets Mamma Nature do the weedin' ...
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Thermophiles, the only inhabitants of the Lost City, include archaea, a recently discovered class of organisms which scientists believe are among the most primitive on earth.
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Will Disney know no shame? It's obviously a publicity stunt for their newest animated flick.
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It should be "The Previously Lost, But Recently Found City."
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IIRC, the two places most likely to have been Aztlan was central Mexico -the states of Zacatecas and Durango- or somewhere in Nayarit, another mexican state. In Zacatecas, there's a place called Chicomoztoc (50 miles south of Zacatecas city), an ancient indian fortress on top of a mountain, and that mountain have seven caves, like the ones mentioned in the Aztlan's legend.
DISCLAIMER: English is not my first language, if you want to correct my grammar or orthography, you are welcome.
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Judging by the way most anthropologists and archaeologists classify anything they can't understand as "Religious Significance", I'd say you have a very fine grasp of the subject.
In a few thousand years' time, I expect most of the freebie merchandise handed out at computer exhibitions will be classified as being of "Religious Significance". All hail the mighty Dust Puppy and praise to the Novelty Mobile Phone Holder.
One wonders what anthropologists and archaeologists would make of an entirely agnostic or aetheist society. Speaking as an agnostic myself, I really irks me that long after my death, people will be slapping "Religious Significance" labels over my property.
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Beware! The lost city of R'lyeh has been found and the dead nightmare god Cthulhu will soon awaken from his dreaming to visit untold horrors upon mankind! Run!
Basically, the source of electrical power for the people of Atlantis was a ruby-like gem housed in a tower that emitted some laser-like beam of energy. This energy was the source of all of the Atlantian technology.
While this gem was the source of all of their power, it was also the reason for their eventual destruction due to some kind of over use or abuse.
Regardless, this is not a fantasy that I've made up, this is actually what Edgar Cayce had told in one of his many readings on Atlantis. I don't have a URL for more information, but there are books on Edgar Cayce and his readings on Atlantis if you're interested. You may also want to check out the book "The Sleeping Prophet". This man was no joke (b. late 1800's, d. 1942?)
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Disney marketing just reached new depths ...
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I didn't know that the Spanish ever went to Aztlan. As far as I know, it is a legendary place supposed to be somewhere in US California, maybe LA.
And if you mean Tenochtitlan, a city built on a lake, with canals and all that, it was built when the Aztecs arrived to the lake, somewhen in the XII or XIII century. Well after Plato.
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Very hard, compared to the side-scan sonar unit which is merely towed behind a surface ship. To get video from 800 meters down requires expensive submersibles, either robotic or manned.
Fortunately the National Geographic Society is sponsoring another expedition. We should have some answers soon.
That that is is that that that that is not is not.
And they're not merely a 2200-year-old city in shallow water like the one recently-discovered off the coast of Egypt -- these structures are 800 meters deep, and must be far older.
If this discovery is verified, it'll be huge.
Read about it on a mainstream site (MSNBC -- quick, grab it before it disappears from Google's cache!)
or get more detail from this fringe site.
That that is is that that that that is not is not.
He didn't prove it happened, he proved the journey was possible. But yes, it was impressive. There's also information at http://www.timseverin.net
He also sailed the Pacific "on a bamboo raft to test the theory that Asian sailors reached America some 2,000 years ago."
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You're thinking of that other ark, the ark of the covenant, in which they kept the stone tablets on which the ten commandments were carved.
I see even classic Slashdot is now pretty much unusable on dial up anymore.
Huge? No it will be buried and forgotten like all the other evidence of an advanced prehistoric civilization. The so-called "scientists" that make up archaeology's status quo really don't want to rewrite their textbooks...
Give any engineer a tour of the great pyramids and show him the gigantic interior granite slabs fitted together with incredible precision and ask him if he could duplicate it with today's technology given an unlimited budget.
Or take him to Macchu Pichu and ask him the same question.
You've probably seen the videos of black smokers giving off what looks like soot on the ocean floor. Well, sometimes they get carried across the ocean floor with the plate, but instead of getting carried into the subduction zone, they get scraped off onto shore. You can find the remains of one if these in the back country of Santa Barbara, CA.
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> Chances are, in my opinion, America _was_ atlantis
I think Crete and Santorini are a considerably better bet if you're looking for the origins of the Atlantis myth.
They're closer to where the myth grew up, they had a flourishing civilisation at the right time and it probably was wiped out by natural disaster (volcanic explosion on Santorini, leading to a tidal wave hitting Crete). You can visit these places and look at rather ancient ruins, and wonder if these are the places which inspired the story.
Putting the Spanish arrival in America "at least a millenium" later is an underestimate, two to three millenia might be a bit closer.
Ah, you're pining for the fnords!
> when everyone just saw the Atlantis movie . . .
You were disappointed?
Imagine thier disappointment when they realized that NOBODY saw the Atlantis movie!
And notice after the setup for "I speak Atlantean"... the fuckers ordering the food UNDERSTAND AND SPEAK ENGLISH. Damn, I hate McDonalds.
Not only was the headline misleading but Slashdot capitalized on it as well. I guess they learned the trick of putting misleading headlines just to get a click. Lame.
So, instead of a pig party, would you invite them to a Reboot/Reformat/Reinstall party?
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The Yahoo article in amazingly deceptive if you only read the first few paragraphs. The stone towers are actually natually formed volcanic vents. Its just that because they are so huge and are found in "Atlantis" the scientist thought it would be cute to call this formation of rocks the "Lost City". It is NOT Atlantis.
That's because, to most of the clowns in the news media, a scientific event doesn't happen until the resulting paper is published in "Nature."
I listen to him on the way home. I think they have found something more intresting off the cost of Cuba. This is what I would like to see. I hope his back gets better.
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They have found Noah's Ark... the Turkish government won't let anyone go there
...because they knew from first-hand experience that going to the land to the east meant you got killed by migrating Mongols, going to the lands in the south meant you got killed by expanding Greeks, Romans, Persians, or Africans, and going to the lands in the north meant you froze to death or drowned. "Hey, there's nothing to the west that we can see; it's gotta be better than what we know right now, let's invent legends about it."
Okay, so I would've made a lousy anthropologist. :-)
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ahhh yes M:TG, stopped playing after they fucked up 4th edition... that was back in '96, what's been going on since then?
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Speaking of that movie, am I the only one that gets irritated by the McDonald's commercial? "I speak Atlantian".. Not after I hit her in the face with a brick. ;)
There's also a Tir na nOg in Alpharetta, GA (northern suburb of Atlanta) -- it's a horse farm.
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There is a very good reason for the so-called "clowns" in the news media to not discuss things until they have appeared in Nature.
t ml #5.1
http://www.nature.com/nature/submit/gta/index.h
"5.1 Prepublicity. Once submitted, contributions must not be discussed with the media (including other scientific journals) until the publication date; advertising the contents of any contribution to the media may lead to rejection. The only exception is in the week before publication, during which contributions may be discussed with the media if it is clearly indicated that their contents should under no circumstances be publicised until Nature's press embargo has elapsed (1900 h local London time on the day before the publication date)."
This is typical of many major scientific journals. (E.g., medical journals) In this day of the Web, the relevance of these kinds of embargoes is debatable, but there are important reasons for them. Mainly, Nature wants to ensure that its contents are properly peer-reviewed before being released. If everyone discusses non-reviewed results in the open media before the review process can be finished, the research will tend to run ahead of the reviewers. In my experience, this is a major problem with the rising of "pre-print" servers, which show results before peer review. As far as I can tell, the results are something like doing scientific research on Slashdot. The results rarely end up being properly peer reviewed, and when they do, nobody reads the journal articles, because they've "already seen" the results on the pre-print servers, regardless of what changes had to be made to satisfy the reviewers.
A minor reason not to discuss things until the article appears is if Nature rejects the article.
Anyhow, the news media have probably talked to these scientists for the past week, to get the story as straight as they can before their own deadline. Of course, since the mainstream media (and, perhaps as importantly, their editors) aren't generally well-trained in science, they often garble things, and often will play up unrealistic future visions to impress readers. Just like slashdot.
So the pillars of society in Atlantis are venting.
What else is new?
Give me my freedom, and I'll take care of my own security, thank you.
Scientists scouring the Atlantic Ocean have found huge towers of stone
Sonofa! Thats were I left those things.
I really gotta stop drinking those salt water martinis
I think the Ark of the Covenant is in Ethiopia, not Turkey. A friend is trying to arrange a holiday to see it. Apparently they (the people that guard it) parade it around their village once a year.
I wonder what Art Bell will make of this?
And the brethren went away edified.
This rumor has been floating around the Internet for a few years now. Surely it ought to be obvious that it's a hoax. A man with the opinions Art Bell supposedly holds would hardly marry a Filipina, which he has in fact done. The rumor has been refuted repeatedly, and the Filipino publication that recently repeated it without checking their facts first is falling over backwards trying to retract it so as to avoid a defamation lawsuit. (They have in fact published two separate retractions.) A summary of the full story is here: http://www.artbell.com/filipino.html To the pinhead moderator: -1: Overrated, possibly. But "Redundant"? Who else made this comment before I did?
And the brethren went away edified.
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I don't know that conventional wisdom kept things quiet, but the Phoenecians certainly did. This was a middle-eastern race, who had probably the most advanced navigational capapbilities of their time. I seem to recall that there is evidence which suggests that they were not only going to the Americas, but that they were getting as far away as New Zealand.
Apparently they were very secretive and would rather scuttle a ship than let someone following find out where they were going. It doesn't surprise me that none of their knowledge got passed on to us.
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The article on Yahoo mentioned that the a component source of heat that drives the chemical reations that occur that produce these pillers is thought to be from an exothermic reation from a rather rare rock called olivine that was found in close proximity to hydrotheric vents; the chemical reagents involved make a lighter-colored build-up than the normal precipitation of minerals and chemicals found in other hydrothermal vents so far.
Guyote was here.....
True. But people that have followed the discovery of oceanic ridges, tetonic plates, and the hydrothermal vents with their odd life-forms that have been in the common press off and on for the last twenty odd years would NOT have assumed right off that this was mention of the discovery of the city of Alantis....
Guyote was here.....
fnord!
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What was the last movie to use hydrothermal vents as a tie-in ?
-- Dennis Hopper's "Black Smokers" in Waterworld.
So that was a success then.
Minor quibble: olivine is a mineral rather than a rock. But also, isn't most of the mantle of the earth made of olivine?
It's not as common in the crust as quartz, but in terms of volume I would guess there's more olivine in the earth than anything else.
Of course, I'm not a Geologist or anything...
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But here goes:
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A mineral is a chemical substance in a particular form. So say, the mineral calcite is calcium carbonate.
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A rock is a lump of one or more minerals. A rock could be made up of only one mineral (e.g. limestone is made of calcite), but the properties of a rock are its bulk properties, whereas the properties of a mineral are those of individual crystals.
I hope that's not too garbled.-- What do you need?
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Geez, how many times is this story going to be posted?
Got Rhinos?
I agree that is seems strange not to release any images; however, considering the validity of Zelitsky's last find, maybe her team deserves the benefit of the doubt?
There have been stories of evidence of Roman/Greek/Egyptian/whatever visitation to North America for quite a while. Other than L'Anse Aux Meadows in Newfoundland, which is probably a real viking settlement, most likely, the "evidence" is from ballast that was shovelled into the hulls of ships that travelled here much later.
Regardless if a few Egyptians found their way onto shore, say, in Ft. Lauderdale, or Vikings in Newfoundland, they didn't hang around very long, and had no cultural impact, so it's like they were never here anyway. Maybe enough to make you go "hmph. Well I'll be damned" like you would if you found a puppy under your wheelbarrow after a flood. You certainly won't be telling the puppy story 30 generations from now.
Move along. Nothing to see here.
True about the pacific, I was thinking more of the proported cyclopean size of the structures in Ry'leh when I made the reference.
could this be the famous city Ry'leh where Cthulu lies dreaming?
The Gulf Stream and the prevailing winds both flow/blow East. Sure, you might end up landing in Africa instead of Ireland, but if you've just sailed across the Atlantic, following the coastline North shouldn't be too intimidating.
I always thought the parody of Donovan's "Atlantis" was a bit ... not-targeted at the right audience in that episode. But, then again, it was damn funny.
Skeptic Magazine has a "Skeptic Jr." section this [quarter/month] devoted to Atlantis. It's targeted at younger kids, but it's still a good read.
The part I liked the most was the summary of the Internet's views on Atlantis... about the blue-blooded mermaids and so on.
this is not about a civilization.
the phrase "lost city" seems more interesting than this oceanographic discovery of the decade.
Use my userscript to add story images to Slashdot. There's no going back.
Irish legend also holds that Saint Brendan discovered America well before Columbus or the Vikings did. And just to prove it, Tim Severin built a leather currach identical to the one described by Saint Brendan, left from Co. Kerry in 1976, and landed on Newfoundland in June 1977. For the full story see here.
The archaea (or archaebacteria) are an interesting group of organism. They look like bacteria, but are more closely related to plants and animals than to bacteria, even though they have the circular DNA of bacteria rather than the straight DNA of animals/plants. The can also survive in a remarkable range of hostile environments. Two interesting pages on them are:
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yup i was pissed off about the same thing.. Sensationalism on Slashdot is starting to piss me off.. Robotic Baseball pitcher. BAH. Pillars underwater. BAH.. I hate you!
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So that explains why I was in the theater!
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OK, I'm sure you've seen the new Atlantis movie, but I'm relatively positive than many of the other /.ers haven't, and simply care about science. The fact that there is the recent Disney movie is probably not related to the fact that scientists called it the lost city.
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Um, no it's not. Try reading the article before you post.
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Slashdot: come for the pedantry, stay for the condescension.
everyone should know this is just another disney promotion.
Well, of course it is. It was one of the top 3 stories on ABCNews.com today. And, as many people know, ABCNews is owned by the Disney corporation.
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The tales tell of the sunken city. Hidden deep under the waves the great old ones sleep.
beware, my friends! This might disturbe them.
That is not dead which can eternal lie and through strange aeons even death may die..
Ia! Ia! Cthulhu ftaghn! Cthulhu fhtagn. Cthulhu. R'lyeh. Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.
Okay, I'll bite. What makes something a "rock" instead of a mineral so I don't piss off any geologists when posting to slashdot?
Waltz, nymph, for quick jigs vex Bud.
You notice that the writeup doesn't mention these are naturally-occuring pillars? You make it sound like they're man-made Greek columns or something...
"Science" news reporting that "accidentially" fits Hollywood movie schedules is getting way out of control.
Formally, it is "The City Formerly Known As Lost", but they're having trouble coming up with one of those Prince symbols.
"Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart, he dreams himself your master."
watch, in a week, disney will come out with some new toys for McDonalds toys.
Actually, the ancients considered everything west over the Atlantic as literally the end of the world. It would be akin to us looking in the space.
It's small wonder why legends about superior people from the west of the Atlantic are so prevalent in European mythology.
From the Yahoo! article:
Unusual life forms called Archaea have been found around traditional oceanic vent systems and these animals have been placed near the bottom of the evolutionary time scale. Scientists believe life around Lost City might be even more primitive.
"Archeae" is the name for the huge group of the first primitive bacteria, and have nothing to do with animals.
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But can PC makers decide what icons go on those pillars?
These are not "Stone Pillars", they are hydrothermal vents and have no relation to any type or form of human civilization. As far as being called "Lost City", that is pretty stupid since the are not related to a city in any way. Its like finding a rock in the middle of nowhere and claiming to have found a city. Please.
Read CNN's review of the information (which has a pic BTW) for a better understanding of what the discovery is really about (hydrothermal vent communities...Specifically..A whole new type!!)
Yahoo?, Why didn't you just stick to search engines??
LFS. Have you built your system today?
..........a few months ago.
Nice of Yahoo and CNN to finally pick it up.
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"It's a brand new kind of hydrothermal system,"
Actually, it's probably been happening for hundreds of thousands of years....
The pictures are kind of neat though, and it's alway interesting to see what kinds of new life have turned up here on earth. (they mentioned they had reccently found some one-celled organisms living near the vents) It's hard to imagine sometimes, that even with all the technology like satellite imaging looking down on the earth, there are still places that are mysteries.
Looking at the description, they sound kinda like underwater hotsprings or geysers (like the ones out in Yellowstone) and they build a kind of dome or tower because of a build up of the minerals that are expunged from the opening. One would think that these would be larger and hotter being closer to earth's core, but apparently that's not the case.
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Maybe they were put there by Disney as a marketing ploy...
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Heck, I remember playing with magic rocks when I was a kid.
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She also refers to ' limitless, rolling, white sand plains '. Forgetting that 'rolling' suggests something quite different from 'plains', how does she tell what color the sand plains are from a sonar image ? And why haven't these rolling plains been disturbed by detritus/currents/tides ? Why hasn't the color of these plains been distorted by algae/corals/debris ?
If you examine the ancient legends carefully, you'll find the location of Tir na nOg to be Union Square, Somerville, MA. Which, it turns out, is exactly where it is :)
After reading it, I thought, "Oh my." Then when hearing they were naturally occuring, I thought, "Wonder how much Disney shelled out to delay the release of this information."
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In my opinion, the southern part of cuba(has been under water since the end of the last drastic glacier recession) is where atlantis may have been. Supposedly there are underwater plains on the south of cuba, and during the last ice age it would have been the perfect place to grow crops. This would also give a reason as to why the great flood stories are so prevalent in many cultures.
Shit adds up at the bottom...
Does anybody here know the specifics of the reaction? All the article says is that the seawater reacts with "unstable mantle rocks," and that it occurs with much cooler eruptions. Does anybody with some real arcane chemistry knowlege care to enlighten us? I want some serious scientific coolness and basically the info just says 'it happens.'
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Oh bother.
Even better, TLC (or was it the Discovery Channel?) was running a show about Atlantis several weeks ago and came up with idea that Atlantis is actually close to Malta.
Without going too deep into details, Plato said that Atlantis existed 9000 before his time, but a simple calandar mistranslation could have actually placed that time at 900 years before Plato. Additionally, Plato supposedly wrote that Atlantis was the size of Asia and Libya combined, but again, the word combination could also be translated to mean 'between', which Malta is. Plato also said that it was beyond the Pillars of Hercules, which are traditionally to the west of Athens, which led many to speculate that Atlantis was somewhere in the Atlantic ocean, but there was another Pillars of Hercules to the east of Athens, and much closer to where Plato was born and spent his childhood. The area around Malta would be beyond these Pillars of Hercules.
The kicker is that the in the legend of Atlantis, there was supposedly advanced warning of Atlantis' impending distruction. Near Malta they have been excavating a site for a quarter of a century (I don't remember the name of the site off-hand), and in that time they've found homes that had two pipes for running water, one hot and one cold. They've found paintings on walls that depict in great detail animals that previously were not known to live in the area. They've excavated blocks of the city, but in all this time, they haven't found any money or bodies. The site was preserved because of a large volcano that blew a nice chunk out of the island.
The show came to the conclusion, that this was the fabled Atlantis. And I have to admit, the show put together a pretty good argument.
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The Santorini/Crete is actually one of the most likely answers to the stories of Atlantis, both theese Islands once had some of the most important ports in the mediterraninan (how on earth is that spelled?). The Islands were very rich, and they had some of the most up-to-date technology of that time.
Unfortunately Santorini blew up, and killed all of the Islands inhbitants. I guess that all the sailors that were going to Santorini got kind of surprised when they realised that Santorini had dissapeared (well almost) and killed of most of Crete as well..
Santorini might also be responsible for drowning the Egyptian army that tried to catch Moses as well. Not that I am to interrested in religion, though.
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http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:Yqop0DKF2fs:w ww.msnbc.com/news/573489.asp%3Fcp1%3D1+atlantis+cu ba+national+geographic+gold&hl=en
It was at http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010514/lf/cuba_t reasure_dc_1.html
Researchers found it off of the coast of cuba while looking for sunken treasure. National Geographic plans an expedition. Art Bell covered it fairly well when it happened.
Hopefully someone will be able to find the link.
Perhaps it also has to do with modern western cultures preference to rejecting the idea that we may not have been the first civilizations with advanced global trade systems .. people like to believe that ealier civilizations must have been very primitive and not common. It sort of makes our advances seem a little less impressive when we're just one of many advanced civilizations that have come and gone over many thousands of years. Although we can be pretty sure we're the most technologically advanced yet.
Didn't read my whole post before you replied, did you? Last sentence reads "we can be pretty sure we're the most technologically advanced yet". I'm fully in agreement with you. By "advanced" I was referring generally to things like math/science/astronomy disciplines and global trade routes.
sounds like that 'face' on the surface of mars that 'coudn't possibly have been anything but manmade' which of course turned out to be just a regular martian mountain...
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oh, no - he doesn't exist either.
A: None. The Universe spins the bulb, and the Zen master merely stays out of the way.
perhaps it has to do with the absence of the ruins of huge metal buildings... we have been the most advanced state of civilization on the face of the planet for hundreds of years running...
what other advanced civilizations are you talking about, praytell? mayans, incas? mesopetamians? egyptians? greeks? chinese? indian?
all very advanced for their times, but none come close. greeks, incas, egyptians, and mayans probably lead the way (and toss in romans for shear force of will... built so many things still standing...), but try to make any case that they can hold a candle to our progress.
Space. Computers. Genetics. Quantum physics. Relativity. Flying. Combustion engine. Electricity. Electricity distribution... it's tiring going on. None of these civilizations were near us. It's not arrogance, it's flat out truth. There's no conspiracy here, their not hiding the ruins of ancient skyscrapers.. we know this planet well enough to know we're the only ones to come so far.
A: None. The Universe spins the bulb, and the Zen master merely stays out of the way.
Now we just need to find the Perspex Pillar and the Golden Bail of Prosperity and the Wikkit Gate shall be restored!
Just be thankful that Ted Turner, Jane Fonda, that guy who invented Coke, and a magician got out before it sank.
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Looks can be deceiving. Or CAN they?
It's a natural formation, recently discovered.
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Wouldn't it make more sense to call it "The Found City?"
It's a bit pessimistic to start right off assuming we're going to lose it.
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Yeah sure, and that's not a penis on the Little Mermaid promo poster... you work for Disney, don't you!
Long ago I watched a program on TLC which talked about the search fro Atlantis. Accrding to the show and some evidence they found, they think Atlantis was around Malta or somewhere in the straight of Gibraltar. I dont exactly remember:(
Democratic USA - Government of the corporations, by the Corporations, for the corporations.
I knew the disney movie was true!
D/\ Gooberguy
Karma: Meh (Mostly from meh.)
This reminds me a LOT of hearing about how they've pinpointed where Noah's Ark should be, but they still can't find it. Better still, it bears a closer similarity to finding microbial life on Mars and claiming we've found E.T.! Great. They've found underground volcanic pillars. If they build up for millions of years, they make islands. What's so earth shattering about that? Again, they're not claiming to have found Atlantis, but without a big Disney movie to get everyone's imagination stirring, this news clip wouldn't have shown up on anyone's radar.
Redmond Calif.
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In a move which has stunned the computer industry Microsoft Corporations (NASDAQ:MSFT) has announced a lawsuit against the pillars found in the ocean floor recently.
Microsoft Public Relations Spokesperson OJ Simpson stated that the company has taken this action due to the possible confusion that the pillars make cause in the general worldwide marketplace.
"when most people think of monolithic objects which never move or change and with heads made of stone they naturally think of MIcrosoft" said mr Simpson "We dont want this to change. These pillars are obviously a blatant rip off or our corporate philosophy and must be stamped out".
Microsoft has asked the court to deliver a preliminary injunction preventing the pillars from doing anything 'pillar' like until a formal court hearing can be held.
In related new Microsoft announce the release of MS Pillar 2000, their latest product in the new MSGarden range of computer themed garden accesories, this joins the upcoming MSLawn and MSLawnmower as part of the new push into non computer related markets for microsoft.
Microsoft says that it sees its move into other areas of consumer life as an exciting opportunity to develop new fields of business "just think what we can do when we have a monopoly in garden products and home appliances" cackled Public Relations Spokesman OJ Simpson "Today the garden toomorrow the world"
Microsoft Shares close 59c higher on the announcement.
Open Source pundits have announced that they are working on a GPL version of both MSPillar and MSLawn at the moment and will shortly be releasing their beta version of MSLawnmower (called Scissors).
When asked for comment on the microsoft actions Apple CEO Steve Jobs praised Bill Gates and Microsoft whilst nervoucly looking around and mumbling something about 'deals with Satan' under his breath
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Scientists Discover Women
'Its what we've been waiting for' cry physicists.
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Hot on the heels of their discovery of the Mysterious Slashdot Pillars in the oceans it has been announced that in an astounding move scientists have published the discovery of what they have called women.
'We had always heard about these mysterious females but none of us had ever encoutered one in real life' said Astro Physicist Ned Funders 'we just never get invited to those sort of parties'
The dicovery - announced in Nature Magazine under the headline 'Hot Chicks and How to get them' hasd sent shockwaves throughout the scientific world with reports that scientists have been abandoning their posts at universities around the world and flocking to locations where women are reputed to be found.
These locations include Shopping Malls, Strip Bars and Singles Clubs. We found and interviewed one scientist in a hooters restaurant who would not be named but can be described as wearing thick glasses and a polyester suit and tie in a fetching shade of mauve - when asked about his impression of women he stated 'i always knew they existed - others didnt believe me but i was right - now if only i could get them to talk to me'
Scientists are believed to be working on their next discovery at this very moment - the elusive and rare element entitled sex appeal. It is hoped that this will enable them to further explore the possibilities of women.
No pillars were harmed in the making of this story.
(i know this might be off topic but i figured so many other posts are that it may be worth a laugh)
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We all need a laugh every now and then - you cannot take life to seriously and this story just cries out for a bit of it, besides a good laugh makes your day go faster and happier
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Ever noticed this obsession? If someone found a bunch of coral reefs, no one on slashdot would care. But one damn phallic symbol and you cockmongers jump all over it. Damn.