I agree with what you say, and it makes me think that I need to test my disaster recovery plan; but lets say that you have some XML transfer or DB trigger that causes that database to die. A restore won't fix that problem, you may not even know what the heck caused the problem.
Most closed source databases are expensive. I like to think that most people can pick the best database that works best for their company. That could be MySQL, PostGreSQL, FileMaker, Access, DB2, Oracle whatever...
In my opinion this new software will help MySQL and PostgreSQL, but not at the cost of Oracle. Most people that buy Oracle know what they are getting. New Oracle customers are looking for a solid reliable database, that offers a bunch of features, and they generally want to minimize their risk. Open Source database users are generally risk takers AND in my experience very cost sensative. It is my belief that the companies that have the most to loose by this are products like FileMaker, Microsoft Access and possibly Microsoft SQL server. Customers of those products tend to be far more price sensative. Although most Microsoft people tend to want to stay "ALL Microsoft", they tend to even brag about being a "Microsoft Shop"....
1. You could buy a Playstation2 and never have to worry about all the DirectX crap, $400+ video card upgrades every year; and also play great games. I won't even go in to the security issues.
2. You could wait for WINE to get so good that you could blow away your Windows partition and use that space for the next game you buy.
3. Find a Linux port of the game. This is getting better, but still not great.
I am not saying that your option is wrong, it's just not the only options on the table. If you love games enough to put money in to Microsofts' pockets, then a Windows partition isn't a bad option.
I believe that you don't actually OWN Windows XP though, you just lease it. You will probably have to spend around $200.00 every three years to stay "current" with them. This may not be an issue with you, but some people would like to take that $200 and put it in to that new video card for Doom 4.
I think we agree on almost everything. I just want to add a few things.
I do vote with my wallet. I buy almost every copy of RedHat. I switched almost our entire business over to RedHat from Windows and NetWare.
To say that WINE will run most Win95 apps is not correct at all, unless you say running Wine on a stock linux kernel with an Nvidia video card. Read the counltess post of problems with ATI cards and RedHat 8.x and 9.x. Remember if you build your own kernel with RedHat you can no longer get offical support with them.... Having said that, I love WINE. I can't use it, currently (ATI owner), but I know it will be there in a year or two. Also, I am a transgaming member. Yes that is right, I can't even use their software and I am a paying member, and will continue to be one. My hope is that someday I can stick a Win32 Game or Microsoft Office application CD in and have the installer pop up and do the install. Then have it automatically put icons in my menu for me.
I have found that people will look at alternative software, BUT they don't want to change everything at one time. If they can change the OS and keep almost everything else then they would prefer to do that. Then over time they can look at alternatives like OpenOffice.
I try never to pirate software. I have noticed that Microsoft is cracking down a bunch on piracy a lot, and I love it. In the long run it will only move people to open source faster and or get them to lower their price.
Again I think we agree on almost every point. Except that your a stinkin SuSE user!!!:-) Just kidding of course, I haven't tried SuSe yet, but I am going for my RHCE, so I need to focus on RedHat for a while...
Good points, but from the windows users that I have tried; and am trying to convert it comes down to a few points.
1. Applications - Linux must be able to run a majority of the applications that Windows can. These people want to be able to walk in to a Comp USA and buy some software without having to ask for a Linux version. The only way I see this being pulled off is with WINE. It needs to get a LOT better first though. My guess is that within two to three years it will probably be there. Specifically, someone needs to be able to insert a CD and have the installer come up automatically.
2. Price. Linux distros need to remain cheap. Lindows is not the answer these people are looking for. These people want to load it for free and not have to pay anyone for that software again.
3. Hardware - Windows has drivers for about everything. Linux is getting better, but still is not great.
4. Microsoft putting good copy protection in their code. Most people that I talk to pirate Microsoft software. If they can't do this anyore, then they will be forced to start looking elsewhere for solutions.
Notice I didn't say anything about reliability, speed or security. Nor did I mention bloat or light code, or an exact Windows like interface. Most users that I talk to don't care about that at all for a desktop machine. I do somewhat agree with your view on bloat though, and I think that companies like RedHat have handled it well. They still offer a ton, but they have a "standard" set of apps that people can use easily.
Also, if Java on the client were to take off more, then this would also help Linux on the desktop. It like the device driver support mentioned above is getting better, but not yet great. A new default look and feel for Linux would be very nice.
You mention OS. How about System administration stuff? NT, Novell, Linux etc.
I know that this is a weird question to ask, but have you used Microsoft Access before? Or perhaps a better question is have you worked with any SQL before.
I am in the process of trying to get another position at our company, and hope to have something together soon. (Soon being one or two months), I don't know if it will go through, and I know that we coulnd't pay any relocation fee...
Does the work here doesn't suck as bad as other places.
You say that you are willing to look at jobs that are in the 30-40k/year range. What kind of job are you looking for? What is your experience, and are you willing to move to the midwest?
I understand your complaint, however the same could have been said about SAMBA. Don't use SAMBA, just force every desktop to run NFS!!!
Without SAMBA a lot of people I know wouldn't give Linux a second look. Now they use it INSTEAD of Windows for some of their servers.
Let's look at it this way. If WINE was perfect it would help bring people like me that still need DreamWeaver and a few other apps over to using Linux on the desktop. Now once Linux gained significant desktop marketshare, say around $35%, developers would have a good market base to target. Once critical mass on the desktop was achived then some development companies would want to develop native applications as opposed to WINE. As it is now, why would Macromedia port DreamWeaver to ~1% of the desktop market.
Please understand that I use DreamWeaver as an example. I have been told that it does run "somewhat" under WINE.
On a side note is there an application that competes with Microsoft Access on Linux. Specifically I am looking for a good tool to build front ends and reports with to an Oracle Database.
While I think your prof/teacher is a bit extreme about this issue, I kinda see his point.
Forget technology for a moment. Let's say that someone finds a "flaw" in your locked door and then decides to use this knowledge to come in to your house during the day and watch TV. Then after months of doing this he tells the lock maker and you. Should you honor this person?
I for one would fee lucky that he didn't steal anything, but what he did was wrong.
Add Gas tax Add Property tax Add Sales tax on almost every item you buy Add Sin Tax (Smokes and Drinks) Add Tax that employer pays for you (Social Security) Do you play the lottery... Taxes there also. In Indiana add Licence plate tax also.. it is huge here, unless you drive some 15+ year old car, but then the gas tax will probably get you. Either way the government gets their money. Toll Rodes are kindof a tax also. Want to stay at a Hotel? Plan on HUGE TAXES there. Local phone tax.
I am sure that I am missing a few. When you add all this up it comes up well over 60% for most middle class people. I will look for the report, but I don't have it on hand.
Just taking what you have done you can add 6% for everything you buy. You are now at 46%. The rest of this only needs to make up 14% of your income. It doesn't take long.
Wow.. you seem to have taken what I have said to the extreme.
I will try and clarify.
I am not against working with Russia on a lot of world issues. However, they had military generals in Iraq training the Iraq military on GPS blocking devices two weeks before the war started. What I believe is that the U.S. should now view Russia as anything but a "friendly" nation. Now by that I don't mean severing all relations with Russia, or not working on trade relations with them. Trade relations are a far cry away from building a Trillion dollar rocket with the latest technology in it.
There were contracts found yesterday that links Russia directly with Iraq for sales of weapons. I agree that a lot of other weapons came in from Syria, but the fact is some came in from Russia directly. Could that be why they opposed the war so much?
The U.S. military budget was at a post WWII low. A significant amount of those cuts came during the Clinton administration.
I by no means say that the space program should languish. I just want to know what we are going to get for our money. If you say that by going to Mars we will get "X" and it will cost "Y" then you can make a good decision, and set a timeline to do it or not. You could then add if we do "X" with the Russians and Europeans it will cost "Y/5" then we can also make that decision.
You seem to say that the U.S. should undertake this at ANY cost. I don't agree with that.
My experience is that NASA tends to greatly underestimate their cost, and GREATLY undersell their benifit. Oh yeah they also tend to take a boat load longer on accomplishing any long term plans.
Take the space station for example. Are they close to on time or on budget? Is America having to pay more than originally thought? It would appear to me that you could use that as a baseline to see if the world is ready to jointly send a rocket full of men and women to mars.
Lastly, I would love for the space program to be funded more, but at the cost of some of our social programs. In short I want a balanced budget amendment, and flat taxes. Then we can all "discuss" where the money should go. I would probably be on your side fighting for NASA...
Please understand that I want us to explore space, I am a huge fan of it, but at what cost?
You question the amount of taxes that I pay. My Federal Income Tax is over 27%. I pay a huge tax on all the Gasoline that I use (~50 cents a gallon). I pay a 6% sales tax on almost everything I buy. I pay Social Security tax (that I will probably never see). Ok, now there is property taxes also, hotel taxes, sin taxes (thank God I don't smoke)... you get the picture... and even taxes on what little intrest I have managed to earn over the years... Add them all up sometime, it will be way OVER 60%. Oh yeah factor in the the amount of taxes that my employer has to pay to match my Social Security...
I agree that NASA has created great things. I want that to continue. Again though at what cost? I am not saying that I don't want it, I just want to know what we, the U.S. people will have to give up to get it. If that means higher taxes then I am against it, unless they inact a balanced budget amendment and put some other means to keep the spending in check.
When the Russians had missles pointed at "My House", they were the known enemy. Over the last few years we (the U.S.) have been working with Russia, but it appears that they were not a "friendly nation" at all. I am not saying that we sever all relations with them, but I don't know if we should work on a mission to Mars with them either. Russia gave military supplies to Iraq weeks before the war took place. I understand that we (the U.S.) gave Stinger missles to people against Russia, so I can't blame them too much, but I don't know if we should build a multi billion dollar rocket with them.
This thing will not cost 100 Billion. No space program that has done much has come in close to budget. To get people to Mars and back again will cost a ton more than 100 Billion.
Have Indians send somebody to Mars???? I don't care who sends somebody there, I just hope that there is a good reason for going and they make it back alive, and that the cost of the thing doesn't cripple the U.S. for years.
While I would love to see someone land on Mars, I have to ask the questions.
1. Who will pay for it? Look how much the moon landings cost the U.S.
2. What will the benifit be?
3. After Russia backstabbed the U.S. in the Iraq war, do you think that we will still work together?
Given what is going on in the world I don't see Bush or anyone approving the HUGE budget needed to start this type of thing.
Again, I would love to see this happen, but it all depends on the cost. ~60% of my income goes to taxes now, given that I have to compete with near slave labor from India and Russia for jobs, I don't want to see taxes go up at all. Well that isn't totally true, I think that there needs to be an import tax on all software development done outside the country! Perhaps that could help fund this thing!!!
I agree that there are far far more Muslims that are peaceful people. All of them that I know are peaceful people. However, how come NO FORMAL Muslim religious group immediately condemed the 911 attacks?
Actually trading with a country that promotes slave labor is a bad iddea. China is a huge market, and we won't do anything in the U.S. to stop trading with them, but it is a bad idea.
Now if you believe that it is ok to farm everything out to India then I would counter and say lets start training our prisoners to do I.T. work. They will do it for FREE!!!! That would put all those Indian programmers out of work. Is that right??? No. Neither is allowing those coders to do work with American companies without some type of serious import tax. This would be similar to the auto import tax.
Wow troll, you sure type like some of the Americans I know. I somehow bet you are an American Troll, but if I am wrong, look at the bright side; you get all the good PS2 games before we do.
Oh yeah, those missles that are flying over you are not from the U.S.A. but we will probably spend American lives protecting you from one of those big bad boys from landing on your island.
THANK YOU!!! I have a stock 7.1 box and it has been up near 100% except for one hardware problem. I asked the people at Oracle, and they said that the reason they did this was to improve reliability! I don't know how you improve on 100%???
I have been frozen on Oracle 9.0.2 and won't upgrade until this mess is worked out. I knew that there was problems with this.
I agree with most of your comments, and for my business the standard $350-$800 is fine, but for a lot of Novell and Microsoft shops it isn't.
My question to RedHat is WHY NOT offer this type of support? Just come up with some amount per call and offer it. In my experience they were almost "Microsoft" like in their arrogance. They don't offer ANY per call support options unless you buy one of the "Server" versions.
As it is now, it is difficult sell for some customers that are use to NT and NetWare and it could easily be fixed. It is just such a trivial deal, I can't believe that they haven't fixed it yet.
Here is an example that I can think of.
Someone working for ABC consulting gets their RHCE. They will then be going out and supporting RedHat in their area. ABC consulting should be able to buy a block of support calls to RedHat for that person to use when needed.
I hope that they offer this someday soon. I have been seriously considering SUSE because of this issue. Not that RedHat will miss my $20,000 a year that much.
I am glad that they have made this change. We were kinda screwed when Oracle said that they would ONLY support the "Advanced Server" version of RedHat and RedHat said that they were only going to support 7.1 until the end of the year.
However, I cannot believe that they don't offer some type of per incident support basis. There are a number of places here in Indiana that want to add RedHat instead of NT and or NetWare, for say 20-30 servers, but they don't want to pay $2,500.00 a server for 7X24 support! Both Novell and Microsoft offer a per incident support, and when I called to complain about this I was told that RedHat isn't competing with Novell or Microsoft, but Sun. I don't see it that way.
Well at least you commented on something instead of posting some stupid comment like before.
I will sum up your issues with my post as best I can.
1. Bad english, and spelling. Yep you got me on that one. I wish I could run my post through a spell checker.
2. You believe that Sony is also going heavy on online games because of the specs of the PS3. Could be; I don't know. Other than the Cell processor design overview I haven't seen much on it. I am willing to bet that Sony won't force software development shops to use ONLY their online service though...
3. You seem to doubt my ESTIMATE on the average number of games that a Xbox owner has. My ESTIMATE comes from the fact that Microsoft has reported that they need to make that average to break even on the hardware. That was at the $200.00 price. Now it has been reported that they are still loosing money, some would say bleeding money on the Xbox. If it was around the 20-26 games that the previous poster said, they would be in the black big time.
4. Sony and Microsoft target the same market. I agree somewhat, but sony didn't give up on the family market, nor did they ever say anything like... Your younger kids will probably be downstairs playing a GameCube or something, and the older children will be upstairs playing on their Xbox... That was foolish. That was a director of sales at Microsoft on Tech TV.
My main point is that the Xbox and the PC are very similar platforms and compete against each other. The people that would own an Xbox and NOT own a high end gaming pc are rare.
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Ah, but once people realize that it IS easy to steal, thent the problem will only get worse.
I agree with what you say, and it makes me think that I need to test my disaster recovery plan; but lets say that you have some XML transfer or DB trigger that causes that database to die. A restore won't fix that problem, you may not even know what the heck caused the problem.
Most closed source databases are expensive. I like to think that most people can pick the best database that works best for their company. That could be MySQL, PostGreSQL, FileMaker, Access, DB2, Oracle whatever...
In my opinion this new software will help MySQL and PostgreSQL, but not at the cost of Oracle. Most people that buy Oracle know what they are getting. New Oracle customers are looking for a solid reliable database, that offers a bunch of features, and they generally want to minimize their risk. Open Source database users are generally risk takers AND in my experience very cost sensative. It is my belief that the companies that have the most to loose by this are products like FileMaker, Microsoft Access and possibly Microsoft SQL server. Customers of those products tend to be far more price sensative. Although most Microsoft people tend to want to stay "ALL Microsoft", they tend to even brag about being a "Microsoft Shop"....
Ahh..... but you will graduate someday, or you can keep paying the university tons of money to be life long student....
So once you graduate or drop out, you WILL be back on Microsoft gravy train.
I like to think of it like drugs. They give it away to those people at a young age and then rape them when they are a little bit older.
There are a couple of other ways to look at it.
1. You could buy a Playstation2 and never have to worry about all the DirectX crap, $400+ video card upgrades every year; and also play great games. I won't even go in to the security issues.
2. You could wait for WINE to get so good that you could blow away your Windows partition and use that space for the next game you buy.
3. Find a Linux port of the game. This is getting better, but still not great.
I am not saying that your option is wrong, it's just not the only options on the table. If you love games enough to put money in to Microsofts' pockets, then a Windows partition isn't a bad option.
I believe that you don't actually OWN Windows XP though, you just lease it. You will probably have to spend around $200.00 every three years to stay "current" with them. This may not be an issue with you, but some people would like to take that $200 and put it in to that new video card for Doom 4.
I think we agree on almost everything. I just want to add a few things.
:-) Just kidding of course, I haven't tried SuSe yet, but I am going for my RHCE, so I need to focus on RedHat for a while...
I do vote with my wallet. I buy almost every copy of RedHat. I switched almost our entire business over to RedHat from Windows and NetWare.
To say that WINE will run most Win95 apps is not correct at all, unless you say running Wine on a stock linux kernel with an Nvidia video card. Read the counltess post of problems with ATI cards and RedHat 8.x and 9.x. Remember if you build your own kernel with RedHat you can no longer get offical support with them.... Having said that, I love WINE. I can't use it, currently (ATI owner), but I know it will be there in a year or two. Also, I am a transgaming member. Yes that is right, I can't even use their software and I am a paying member, and will continue to be one. My hope is that someday I can stick a Win32 Game or Microsoft Office application CD in and have the installer pop up and do the install. Then have it automatically put icons in my menu for me.
I have found that people will look at alternative software, BUT they don't want to change everything at one time. If they can change the OS and keep almost everything else then they would prefer to do that. Then over time they can look at alternatives like OpenOffice.
I try never to pirate software. I have noticed that Microsoft is cracking down a bunch on piracy a lot, and I love it. In the long run it will only move people to open source faster and or get them to lower their price.
Again I think we agree on almost every point. Except that your a stinkin SuSE user!!!
Good points, but from the windows users that I have tried; and am trying to convert it comes down to a few points.
1. Applications - Linux must be able to run a majority of the applications that Windows can. These people want to be able to walk in to a Comp USA and buy some software without having to ask for a Linux version. The only way I see this being pulled off is with WINE. It needs to get a LOT better first though. My guess is that within two to three years it will probably be there. Specifically, someone needs to be able to insert a CD and have the installer come up automatically.
2. Price. Linux distros need to remain cheap. Lindows is not the answer these people are looking for. These people want to load it for free and not have to pay anyone for that software again.
3. Hardware - Windows has drivers for about everything. Linux is getting better, but still is not great.
4. Microsoft putting good copy protection in their code. Most people that I talk to pirate Microsoft software. If they can't do this anyore, then they will be forced to start looking elsewhere for solutions.
Notice I didn't say anything about reliability, speed or security. Nor did I mention bloat or light code, or an exact Windows like interface. Most users that I talk to don't care about that at all for a desktop machine. I do somewhat agree with your view on bloat though, and I think that companies like RedHat have handled it well. They still offer a ton, but they have a "standard" set of apps that people can use easily.
Also, if Java on the client were to take off more, then this would also help Linux on the desktop. It like the device driver support mentioned above is getting better, but not yet great. A new default look and feel for Linux would be very nice.
Have you done any Web applications?
You mention OS. How about System administration stuff? NT, Novell, Linux etc.
I know that this is a weird question to ask, but have you used Microsoft Access before? Or perhaps a better question is have you worked with any SQL before.
I am in the process of trying to get another position at our company, and hope to have something together soon. (Soon being one or two months), I don't know if it will go through, and I know that we coulnd't pay any relocation fee...
Does the work here doesn't suck as bad as other places.
First, I agree with most of what you say.
You say that you are willing to look at jobs that are in the 30-40k/year range. What kind of job are you looking for? What is your experience, and are you willing to move to the midwest?
I understand your complaint, however the same could have been said about SAMBA. Don't use SAMBA, just force every desktop to run NFS!!!
Without SAMBA a lot of people I know wouldn't give Linux a second look. Now they use it INSTEAD of Windows for some of their servers.
Let's look at it this way. If WINE was perfect it would help bring people like me that still need DreamWeaver and a few other apps over to using Linux on the desktop. Now once Linux gained significant desktop marketshare, say around $35%, developers would have a good market base to target. Once critical mass on the desktop was achived then some development companies would want to develop native applications as opposed to WINE. As it is now, why would Macromedia port DreamWeaver to ~1% of the desktop market.
Please understand that I use DreamWeaver as an example. I have been told that it does run "somewhat" under WINE.
On a side note is there an application that competes with Microsoft Access on Linux. Specifically I am looking for a good tool to build front ends and reports with to an Oracle Database.
While I think your prof/teacher is a bit extreme about this issue, I kinda see his point.
Forget technology for a moment. Let's say that someone finds a "flaw" in your locked door and then decides to use this knowledge to come in to your house during the day and watch TV. Then after months of doing this he tells the lock maker and you. Should you honor this person?
I for one would fee lucky that he didn't steal anything, but what he did was wrong.
Ahhh...
Add Gas tax
Add Property tax
Add Sales tax on almost every item you buy
Add Sin Tax (Smokes and Drinks)
Add Tax that employer pays for you (Social Security)
Do you play the lottery... Taxes there also.
In Indiana add Licence plate tax also.. it is huge here, unless you drive some 15+ year old car, but then the gas tax will probably get you. Either way the government gets their money.
Toll Rodes are kindof a tax also.
Want to stay at a Hotel? Plan on HUGE TAXES there.
Local phone tax.
I am sure that I am missing a few. When you add all this up it comes up well over 60% for most middle class people. I will look for the report, but I don't have it on hand.
Just taking what you have done you can add 6% for everything you buy. You are now at 46%. The rest of this only needs to make up 14% of your income. It doesn't take long.
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Wow.. you seem to have taken what I have said to the extreme.
I will try and clarify.
I am not against working with Russia on a lot of world issues. However, they had military generals in Iraq training the Iraq military on GPS blocking devices two weeks before the war started. What I believe is that the U.S. should now view Russia as anything but a "friendly" nation. Now by that I don't mean severing all relations with Russia, or not working on trade relations with them. Trade relations are a far cry away from building a Trillion dollar rocket with the latest technology in it.
There were contracts found yesterday that links Russia directly with Iraq for sales of weapons. I agree that a lot of other weapons came in from Syria, but the fact is some came in from Russia directly. Could that be why they opposed the war so much?
The U.S. military budget was at a post WWII low. A significant amount of those cuts came during the Clinton administration.
I by no means say that the space program should languish. I just want to know what we are going to get for our money. If you say that by going to Mars we will get "X" and it will cost "Y" then you can make a good decision, and set a timeline to do it or not. You could then add if we do "X" with the Russians and Europeans it will cost "Y/5" then we can also make that decision.
You seem to say that the U.S. should undertake this at ANY cost. I don't agree with that.
My experience is that NASA tends to greatly underestimate their cost, and GREATLY undersell their benifit. Oh yeah they also tend to take a boat load longer on accomplishing any long term plans.
Take the space station for example. Are they close to on time or on budget? Is America having to pay more than originally thought? It would appear to me that you could use that as a baseline to see if the world is ready to jointly send a rocket full of men and women to mars.
Lastly, I would love for the space program to be funded more, but at the cost of some of our social programs. In short I want a balanced budget amendment, and flat taxes. Then we can all "discuss" where the money should go. I would probably be on your side fighting for NASA...
Please understand that I want us to explore space, I am a huge fan of it, but at what cost?
You question the amount of taxes that I pay. My Federal Income Tax is over 27%. I pay a huge tax on all the Gasoline that I use (~50 cents a gallon). I pay a 6% sales tax on almost everything I buy. I pay Social Security tax (that I will probably never see). Ok, now there is property taxes also, hotel taxes, sin taxes (thank God I don't smoke)... you get the picture... and even taxes on what little intrest I have managed to earn over the years... Add them all up sometime, it will be way OVER 60%. Oh yeah factor in the the amount of taxes that my employer has to pay to match my Social Security...
I agree that NASA has created great things. I want that to continue. Again though at what cost? I am not saying that I don't want it, I just want to know what we, the U.S. people will have to give up to get it. If that means higher taxes then I am against it, unless they inact a balanced budget amendment and put some other means to keep the spending in check.
When the Russians had missles pointed at "My House", they were the known enemy. Over the last few years we (the U.S.) have been working with Russia, but it appears that they were not a "friendly nation" at all. I am not saying that we sever all relations with them, but I don't know if we should work on a mission to Mars with them either. Russia gave military supplies to Iraq weeks before the war took place. I understand that we (the U.S.) gave Stinger missles to people against Russia, so I can't blame them too much, but I don't know if we should build a multi billion dollar rocket with them.
This thing will not cost 100 Billion. No space program that has done much has come in close to budget. To get people to Mars and back again will cost a ton more than 100 Billion.
Have Indians send somebody to Mars???? I don't care who sends somebody there, I just hope that there is a good reason for going and they make it back alive, and that the cost of the thing doesn't cripple the U.S. for years.
While I would love to see someone land on Mars, I have to ask the questions.
1. Who will pay for it? Look how much the moon landings cost the U.S.
2. What will the benifit be?
3. After Russia backstabbed the U.S. in the Iraq war, do you think that we will still work together?
Given what is going on in the world I don't see Bush or anyone approving the HUGE budget needed to start this type of thing.
Again, I would love to see this happen, but it all depends on the cost. ~60% of my income goes to taxes now, given that I have to compete with near slave labor from India and Russia for jobs, I don't want to see taxes go up at all. Well that isn't totally true, I think that there needs to be an import tax on all software development done outside the country! Perhaps that could help fund this thing!!!
I agree that there are far far more Muslims that are peaceful people. All of them that I know are peaceful people. However, how come NO FORMAL Muslim religious group immediately condemed the 911 attacks?
Actually trading with a country that promotes slave labor is a bad iddea. China is a huge market, and we won't do anything in the U.S. to stop trading with them, but it is a bad idea.
Now if you believe that it is ok to farm everything out to India then I would counter and say lets start training our prisoners to do I.T. work. They will do it for FREE!!!! That would put all those Indian programmers out of work. Is that right??? No. Neither is allowing those coders to do work with American companies without some type of serious import tax. This would be similar to the auto import tax.
Wow troll, you sure type like some of the Americans I know. I somehow bet you are an American Troll, but if I am wrong, look at the bright side; you get all the good PS2 games before we do.
Oh yeah, those missles that are flying over you are not from the U.S.A. but we will probably spend American lives protecting you from one of those big bad boys from landing on your island.
THANK YOU!!! I have a stock 7.1 box and it has been up near 100% except for one hardware problem. I asked the people at Oracle, and they said that the reason they did this was to improve reliability! I don't know how you improve on 100%???
I have been frozen on Oracle 9.0.2 and won't upgrade until this mess is worked out. I knew that there was problems with this.
They offer per incident support.
I just found out that Oracle 9i is now certified under SUSE also.
Thanks for the info! I wonder why their sales people don't know about this?
The only thing I see bad about this is:
1. Only during normal hours, not 24X7.
2. It appears to only covers basic configuration support.
I can't find a number to call on the site for this and I don't see what the price is. Any idea on the cost?
I agree with most of your comments, and for my business the standard $350-$800 is fine, but for a lot of Novell and Microsoft shops it isn't.
My question to RedHat is WHY NOT offer this type of support? Just come up with some amount per call and offer it. In my experience they were almost "Microsoft" like in their arrogance. They don't offer ANY per call support options unless you buy one of the "Server" versions.
As it is now, it is difficult sell for some customers that are use to NT and NetWare and it could easily be fixed. It is just such a trivial deal, I can't believe that they haven't fixed it yet.
Here is an example that I can think of.
Someone working for ABC consulting gets their RHCE. They will then be going out and supporting RedHat in their area. ABC consulting should be able to buy a block of support calls to RedHat for that person to use when needed.
I hope that they offer this someday soon. I have been seriously considering SUSE because of this issue. Not that RedHat will miss my $20,000 a year that much.
I am glad that they have made this change. We were kinda screwed when Oracle said that they would ONLY support the "Advanced Server" version of RedHat and RedHat said that they were only going to support 7.1 until the end of the year.
However, I cannot believe that they don't offer some type of per incident support basis. There are a number of places here in Indiana that want to add RedHat instead of NT and or NetWare, for say 20-30 servers, but they don't want to pay $2,500.00 a server for 7X24 support! Both Novell and Microsoft offer a per incident support, and when I called to complain about this I was told that RedHat isn't competing with Novell or Microsoft, but Sun. I don't see it that way.
Well at least you commented on something instead of posting some stupid comment like before.
I will sum up your issues with my post as best I can.
1. Bad english, and spelling. Yep you got me on that one. I wish I could run my post through a spell checker.
2. You believe that Sony is also going heavy on online games because of the specs of the PS3. Could be; I don't know. Other than the Cell processor design overview I haven't seen much on it. I am willing to bet that Sony won't force software development shops to use ONLY their online service though...
3. You seem to doubt my ESTIMATE on the average number of games that a Xbox owner has. My ESTIMATE comes from the fact that Microsoft has reported that they need to make that average to break even on the hardware. That was at the $200.00 price. Now it has been reported that they are still loosing money, some would say bleeding money on the Xbox. If it was around the 20-26 games that the previous poster said, they would be in the black big time.
4. Sony and Microsoft target the same market. I agree somewhat, but sony didn't give up on the family market, nor did they ever say anything like... Your younger kids will probably be downstairs playing a GameCube or something, and the older children will be upstairs playing on their Xbox... That was foolish. That was a director of sales at Microsoft on Tech TV.
My main point is that the Xbox and the PC are very similar platforms and compete against each other. The people that would own an Xbox and NOT own a high end gaming pc are rare.
It offered a people a way out???
Is the way out to kill yourself. Then they could have saved a lot of time, money and most important innocent lives and just killed themselves there.
When you say that the people were opressed did you mean by the U.S.A. ?