I'm no expert, but if you get the antenna even a few feet above the canopy, that would be enough, wouldn't it?
As for defeating the purpose of wireless, I think you may have missed the point. The point is getting broadband access, not the fact that you can get it wireless, right? Personally, wireless is only good for my iPaq, and to a lesser extent, my laptop. Put up your own cheap WAP, if that's what you want.
Someone addressed the whole lightning risk thing... again, I'm no expert, but aren't there decent ways to fix this?
Signal loss is a big issue, not sure how I'd handle it. If you're talking cat5, that means you're within 100 meters, which is plenty close to not worry about this. If it is indeed too far for cat5, it's still unlikely to be too far for whatever coax is appropriate for this, is it not?
As for running conduit, you're only talking $1.50 per 10ft... I just checked at Home Depot the other day. It's shitty work, but only ever has to be done once.
You're thinking of the old iRaq's, which were always ill-tempered and slow. The new HP iRan's have plenty of bandwidth, and are now more USer friendly than ever!
You aren't very clever then. Raise an antenna over the top of the trees somewhere, either a small one bolted to a high limb somewhere, or if the trees aren't so tall, put up a 30' pole or so. Run a line down from it, and buy some conduit to put it inside the house.
Only the antenna itself has to be outside the blockage.
Well, I tried to troll for imaginary karma (not pretend karma, but rather the sign you get when sqrooting negatives numbers) but have never been successful. Personally, I would love to see a "Incomprehensible, i1" up there, but lately I've starting losing faith in the prospect.
You retard. The think tank won this troll contest, why aren't you shutting up? Even an experienced troll like myself has no words.... what can you say to top this? We should just keep quiet, and try to learn something. We can only become stronger slashdot trolls for our patience and silence.
Besides, we can probably hook up with some $100kpy think tank jobs.
Yes, I coined that phrase back in 1861, I believe. Ok, so I'm not the original Abe Lincoln, but a clone created by the Beta Reticulans as part of their master plan to subdue the people of Earth through treachery, illusion, and unwatchable formulaic sitcoms. Still, give credit where credit it due.
But there was a company that was souping up analog film beyond belief.
Basically, they added extra machinery to stabilize the film as it was wound through the projector, make sure the light was adjusted properly and colors were correct, etc. Can't remember if they upped the framerate, or not.
Think it might have been Ebert reviewing it? Anyway, the guy said it was *at least* on par with the best digital projection, and this was the prototype. Not to mention incredibly price competitive (think chopping the legs out from underneath digital) both on projector equipment, and film distribution (uses tried and true plstic film).
So, no, the future isn't necessarily digital. Then again, how many times have we seen a superior product die because someone influential pushes the inferior product (Lucas, in this case) ?
The 65c816 was more than a 6502 on roids. It was a fully functional 16bit cpu, at least as capable as some low end 32bit cpu's *COUGH*386sx*COUGH*. The ARM is a decent 32bitter, but hardly the top of the food chain. Without looking at the specs, the GBA is certainly more powerful than the SNES, but we're not talking orders of magnitudes.
Yeh, though it's taken me a little while (almost 3 weeks). And I don't like the perl script I found to do it, 28 megs per day is just ridiculous (though I don't think it could ever be more than that, set it up for 4 channels or all 80, still 28 megs).
The Tivo has 4 serial ports, 3 of which are available to the user (4th is some kind of debug port, internal maybe?). The first is the 56k modem, which would be hard as hell to use, but is still available (just lots of processes to get in the way). The second is an IR blaster infrared remote interface. The third is a regular serial port, with an RCA stereo type plug (made my own cable for $3 from ratshack). Getting a bash prompt on the serial was easy, a ppp link a bit harder. You could concievably do alot of stuff with this...
For instance, my universal remote won't speak tivo, and I don't like having 2 remotes. I plan on trying to get the tivo to understand the universal remote (which will think it's talking to a VCR). No progress on that yet.
I plan on installing ethernet, and backing up to a huge raid5 array I'm building. Why install internal drives? Besides, this way I can just barely fit an episode of the Simpsons on a single CD, minus commercials. Or stream it to any of the computers in the house (like the I-Opener that folds up underneat my kitchen cabinet).
And then, the coup de grace if I can manage it. Automatic commercial clipping. Here's how I think it will work... whenever I push a button on the remote, Tivo will know that I've spotted a commercial... and it will go back through up to 30 seconds or so, looking for the blank transition screen. When it finds it, it then forwards to the first frame that actually shows a picture, and hashes it. It stores this hash in a database afterward, and whenever it sees a blank transition screen, starts comparing... if it sees that commercial again, it just blanks it out until over. Hell, maybe I'll get a clip of the Monty Python Holy Grail intercession, and play that instead. Or just a still picture of a Tivo with a bloody axe, hacking a marketdroid to death...
Could even compare databases with other people, and distribute the work, to catch commercials more quickly.
And never forget, it's more reliable than PC based stuff, at least for the next few years. There are some things that a generic PC does well, but this is just one thing I think is perfect for a dedicated device (even if PC's do become robust enough).
Just buy a tivo, and never hook up the phone line. It doesn't use telepathy to contact Tivo headquarters, you know.
And you don't have to live with crappy PC based solutions. Some day, a PC based solution will be more than powerful enough to never drop frames, glitch out, etc... but that day isn't today *or* tomorrow.
Tivos just kick ass, and I haven't had trouble not using their guide data. Even over the 9600baud serial link, it's small enough to upload quickly (and before anyone says that I should up the baud rate, I have close to 200 ft of cat5 between the tivo and my linux server). The only thing that bothers me at all, is the third party guide utils want to suck 28 megs of html per day. Oh well, that's what my cable modem is for, I suppose.
Yeh, ignore the saturated market that he has no chance at, whatsoever.
Of course, that means he has to not be just another asshole millionaaire wannabe, but since he has no chance at that anyway, he might as well make some comfortable money catering to a market that everyone refuses to cater to. It's the equivalent of me telling him to stop trying to become a famous rock star, and start getting gigs ata local night clubs for $250 a night.
Of course, the MBA's say differently, so I *must* be wrong.
And never release a windows version. Maybe a MacOS port later, but definitely give us something that winslaves can't touch.
Give me at the very least good screenshots/synopsis, and maybe a crippled version. And don't forget to give me your paypal ID. If I like it, I'll certainly pay more than you could get for 10 copies worth of royalties... and I'll encourage my friends to buy it too.
I never signed a contract. And the retribution (punishment is the wrong word, in that it denotes unethical or immoral behavior on my part) for seceding from this nation is imprisonment or even death.
So, you are putting me under duress, and you have no signature. Your "social contract" is invalid on at least two points.
No, wait. I just thought of a third point of invalidity.
Contracts require that both parties recieve something of value, in exchange for what they give up. Please tell me what it is that I gain, from the utterly ludicrous IP laws of this nation.
Not to mention, your assertion that they are defenseless, in some ploy to elicit sympathy is just sick. The old lady can only ever hope to bean the purse snatcher over the head. The shopkeeper can only kill you.
The MPAA, RIAA, and SBA can financially and litigiously torture you for years, and possibly decades. This is in addition to possible prison sentences after said torture, where you may or may not be incarcerated with rapists.
That makes no sense at all. I'll buy it if I want it (I do) and if the pricing is reasonable (it's not). Not tying up a phone with long-distance calls (if they cut off any toll-free numbers they have in my area) is also a huge factor.
The price I paid for my Tivo, new with warranty: $170
I don't tie up the phone with long distance calls, or even toll free calls (I don't subscribe).
When TiVo has a lower subscription fee and/or they give the box away for free, and when it uses broadband access to download program listing and/or can get the listings from my digital cable box or satellite reciever
The subscription price can't get any lower than the $0 I'm paying per month. Giving away the box for free, is well... ridiculous. You can download anything you want over your broadband link, including tv listings from tvguide.com. The DirecTivo actually does use the satellite signal.
When TiVo provides good hardware and good service for the price, then I'll buy into it.
The hardware is outstanding. And in circumstances like these, dedicated embedded hardware will always kick the ass of generic trying-to-do-everything PC hardware.
It's nice that you imply that I'm included in the "us can eek out a living by working impossible feats of magic" but the truth of the matter is I'm unemployed. As far as that goes, I've never been able to find a job where they trust me with much more than unboxing the new Dells/IBMs and setting them up on the desk.
I think it's possibly because I'm an ijit.
Further proof: My only router is a cruddy Bay Networks I got at auction for $5. Can't even play with it, because there is only one ethernet interface... the other 2 are some weird serial ports with plugs I can't find anywhere. Oh well. If God had wanted me to be blessed with Cisco hardware, I would have been born in a dumpster in San Jose.
Well, enough of the self-pity... it's time to install OS/2 v1.3 ! I think I have the perfect PS/2 286 for it, and it's time to fill out the token ring segment (so far, only a Mac Quadra 605 and the dual p100 linux server are on token ring). Plus, I've got a assembly language tutorial I've been promising to finish for spalp.org for 3 months...
You *are* stupid. Redneck doesn't exactly apply to me, and the contention that my statement was in any way a stereotype or generalization is wrong.
Hate? No, I don't hate them, and bigotry doesn't really mean anything in this context either, unless you want to distort the meaning so much it fails to remain useful.
Troll? Well, guilty as charged, though this was one time I wasn't trolling.
No one that we know of, has gotten this to work, it's true. Or rather, they haven't specifically gotten it to work with a 1way cable modem and 56k. However, many have gotten *very* similar setups working using any number of different interfaces.
So, the contention that linux isn't suitable for this borders on the inane. If he wants to do nice and/or cool things, he'll have to be willing to be the first, sometimes.
So excuse me, it's about the only cisco product I know by name.
You're going to see problems in iptables, I think. I've never had an opportunity to play with a situation like that though. Seen several options in the kernel config for it, and in theory I know it should work. I'm confident I could get it to work myself, after twiddling awhile. But rather than him asking an intelligent question that I might have been compelled to research a bit for the answer, we get this mindless linksys drivel. God, there are some things I wish would never have been sold.
Yes I did. Build a linux router, with modem and ethernet card. Duh.
Hack you? To me, hacking is building my own pci card, or stuff yet another weird nic in my machine, or finally getting lwared to work correctly with a 2.4 kernel. I can't do that to a linksys router, I wouldn't want to, and you're obviously just a dumb shit. Fuck off.
People that want to use mindless consumer garbage when other better, juts as cheap solutions exist, get what they deserve. End of story.
Name: Lame Committee method of design: Lame Idea that if it isn't prepackaged and retard-proof, it has no place in the business world: Lame. Caldera is involved: Lame.
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I'm no expert, but if you get the antenna even a few feet above the canopy, that would be enough, wouldn't it?
As for defeating the purpose of wireless, I think you may have missed the point. The point is getting broadband access, not the fact that you can get it wireless, right? Personally, wireless is only good for my iPaq, and to a lesser extent, my laptop. Put up your own cheap WAP, if that's what you want.
Someone addressed the whole lightning risk thing... again, I'm no expert, but aren't there decent ways to fix this?
Signal loss is a big issue, not sure how I'd handle it. If you're talking cat5, that means you're within 100 meters, which is plenty close to not worry about this. If it is indeed too far for cat5, it's still unlikely to be too far for whatever coax is appropriate for this, is it not?
As for running conduit, you're only talking $1.50 per 10ft... I just checked at Home Depot the other day. It's shitty work, but only ever has to be done once.
You're thinking of the old iRaq's, which were always ill-tempered and slow. The new HP iRan's have plenty of bandwidth, and are now more USer friendly than ever!
You aren't very clever then. Raise an antenna over the top of the trees somewhere, either a small one bolted to a high limb somewhere, or if the trees aren't so tall, put up a 30' pole or so. Run a line down from it, and buy some conduit to put it inside the house.
Only the antenna itself has to be outside the blockage.
Well, I tried to troll for imaginary karma (not pretend karma, but rather the sign you get when sqrooting negatives numbers) but have never been successful. Personally, I would love to see a "Incomprehensible, i1" up there, but lately I've starting losing faith in the prospect.
Absolutely no sense of humor.
You retard. The think tank won this troll contest, why aren't you shutting up? Even an experienced troll like myself has no words.... what can you say to top this? We should just keep quiet, and try to learn something. We can only become stronger slashdot trolls for our patience and silence.
Besides, we can probably hook up with some $100kpy think tank jobs.
Yes, I coined that phrase back in 1861, I believe. Ok, so I'm not the original Abe Lincoln, but a clone created by the Beta Reticulans as part of their master plan to subdue the people of Earth through treachery, illusion, and unwatchable formulaic sitcoms. Still, give credit where credit it due.
But there was a company that was souping up analog film beyond belief.
Basically, they added extra machinery to stabilize the film as it was wound through the projector, make sure the light was adjusted properly and colors were correct, etc. Can't remember if they upped the framerate, or not.
Think it might have been Ebert reviewing it? Anyway, the guy said it was *at least* on par with the best digital projection, and this was the prototype. Not to mention incredibly price competitive (think chopping the legs out from underneath digital) both on projector equipment, and film distribution (uses tried and true plstic film).
So, no, the future isn't necessarily digital. Then again, how many times have we seen a superior product die because someone influential pushes the inferior product (Lucas, in this case) ?
The 65c816 was more than a 6502 on roids. It was a fully functional 16bit cpu, at least as capable as some low end 32bit cpu's *COUGH*386sx*COUGH*. The ARM is a decent 32bitter, but hardly the top of the food chain. Without looking at the specs, the GBA is certainly more powerful than the SNES, but we're not talking orders of magnitudes.
Yeh, though it's taken me a little while (almost 3 weeks). And I don't like the perl script I found to do it, 28 megs per day is just ridiculous (though I don't think it could ever be more than that, set it up for 4 channels or all 80, still 28 megs).
The Tivo has 4 serial ports, 3 of which are available to the user (4th is some kind of debug port, internal maybe?). The first is the 56k modem, which would be hard as hell to use, but is still available (just lots of processes to get in the way). The second is an IR blaster infrared remote interface. The third is a regular serial port, with an RCA stereo type plug (made my own cable for $3 from ratshack). Getting a bash prompt on the serial was easy, a ppp link a bit harder. You could concievably do alot of stuff with this...
For instance, my universal remote won't speak tivo, and I don't like having 2 remotes. I plan on trying to get the tivo to understand the universal remote (which will think it's talking to a VCR). No progress on that yet.
I plan on installing ethernet, and backing up to a huge raid5 array I'm building. Why install internal drives? Besides, this way I can just barely fit an episode of the Simpsons on a single CD, minus commercials. Or stream it to any of the computers in the house (like the I-Opener that folds up underneat my kitchen cabinet).
And then, the coup de grace if I can manage it. Automatic commercial clipping. Here's how I think it will work... whenever I push a button on the remote, Tivo will know that I've spotted a commercial... and it will go back through up to 30 seconds or so, looking for the blank transition screen. When it finds it, it then forwards to the first frame that actually shows a picture, and hashes it. It stores this hash in a database afterward, and whenever it sees a blank transition screen, starts comparing... if it sees that commercial again, it just blanks it out until over. Hell, maybe I'll get a clip of the Monty Python Holy Grail intercession, and play that instead. Or just a still picture of a Tivo with a bloody axe, hacking a marketdroid to death...
Could even compare databases with other people, and distribute the work, to catch commercials more quickly.
And never forget, it's more reliable than PC based stuff, at least for the next few years. There are some things that a generic PC does well, but this is just one thing I think is perfect for a dedicated device (even if PC's do become robust enough).
Just buy a tivo, and never hook up the phone line. It doesn't use telepathy to contact Tivo headquarters, you know.
And you don't have to live with crappy PC based solutions. Some day, a PC based solution will be more than powerful enough to never drop frames, glitch out, etc... but that day isn't today *or* tomorrow.
Tivos just kick ass, and I haven't had trouble not using their guide data. Even over the 9600baud serial link, it's small enough to upload quickly (and before anyone says that I should up the baud rate, I have close to 200 ft of cat5 between the tivo and my linux server). The only thing that bothers me at all, is the third party guide utils want to suck 28 megs of html per day. Oh well, that's what my cable modem is for, I suppose.
Yeh, ignore the saturated market that he has no chance at, whatsoever.
Of course, that means he has to not be just another asshole millionaaire wannabe, but since he has no chance at that anyway, he might as well make some comfortable money catering to a market that everyone refuses to cater to. It's the equivalent of me telling him to stop trying to become a famous rock star, and start getting gigs ata local night clubs for $250 a night.
Of course, the MBA's say differently, so I *must* be wrong.
And never release a windows version. Maybe a MacOS port later, but definitely give us something that winslaves can't touch.
Give me at the very least good screenshots/synopsis, and maybe a crippled version. And don't forget to give me your paypal ID. If I like it, I'll certainly pay more than you could get for 10 copies worth of royalties... and I'll encourage my friends to buy it too.
Yeh, but AtheOS isn't unix based... so we know for sure that they're wrong.
*grin*
Well, that all depends on which religion you believe in, of course.
The ancient Incans believed that it ran Solaris.
The christians, SonOS.
The scientologists reportedly believe it runs Xenux, but since their scriptures are secret, who can say?
Me, I think god was probably a true hippy, and it's running some flavor of BSD, but that's just my own opinion.
It runs unix.
entitled "Satan and Goodness, How do we convince him to quit being evil?".
If people think that M$ still has a chance to see the light, then even Satan is redeemable.
I never signed a contract. And the retribution (punishment is the wrong word, in that it denotes unethical or immoral behavior on my part) for seceding from this nation is imprisonment or even death.
So, you are putting me under duress, and you have no signature. Your "social contract" is invalid on at least two points.
No, wait. I just thought of a third point of invalidity.
Contracts require that both parties recieve something of value, in exchange for what they give up. Please tell me what it is that I gain, from the utterly ludicrous IP laws of this nation.
Not to mention, your assertion that they are defenseless, in some ploy to elicit sympathy is just sick. The old lady can only ever hope to bean the purse snatcher over the head. The shopkeeper can only kill you.
The MPAA, RIAA, and SBA can financially and litigiously torture you for years, and possibly decades. This is in addition to possible prison sentences after said torture, where you may or may not be incarcerated with rapists.
Yeh, so very, very defenseless.
The price I paid for my Tivo, new with warranty:
$170
I don't tie up the phone with long distance calls, or even toll free calls (I don't subscribe).
When TiVo has a lower subscription fee and/or they give the box away for free, and when it uses broadband access to download program listing and/or can get the listings from my digital cable box or satellite reciever
The subscription price can't get any lower than the $0 I'm paying per month. Giving away the box for free, is well... ridiculous. You can download anything you want over your broadband link, including tv listings from tvguide.com. The DirecTivo actually does use the satellite signal.
When TiVo provides good hardware and good service for the price, then I'll buy into it.
The hardware is outstanding. And in circumstances like these, dedicated embedded hardware will always kick the ass of generic trying-to-do-everything PC hardware.
It's nice that you imply that I'm included in the "us can eek out a living by working impossible feats of magic" but the truth of the matter is I'm unemployed. As far as that goes, I've never been able to find a job where they trust me with much more than unboxing the new Dells/IBMs and setting them up on the desk.
I think it's possibly because I'm an ijit.
Further proof: My only router is a cruddy Bay Networks I got at auction for $5. Can't even play with it, because there is only one ethernet interface... the other 2 are some weird serial ports with plugs I can't find anywhere. Oh well. If God had wanted me to be blessed with Cisco hardware, I would have been born in a dumpster in San Jose.
Well, enough of the self-pity... it's time to install OS/2 v1.3 ! I think I have the perfect PS/2 286 for it, and it's time to fill out the token ring segment (so far, only a Mac Quadra 605 and the dual p100 linux server are on token ring). Plus, I've got a assembly language tutorial I've been promising to finish for spalp.org for 3 months...
You *are* stupid. Redneck doesn't exactly apply to me, and the contention that my statement was in any way a stereotype or generalization is wrong.
Hate? No, I don't hate them, and bigotry doesn't really mean anything in this context either, unless you want to distort the meaning so much it fails to remain useful.
Troll? Well, guilty as charged, though this was one time I wasn't trolling.
I'm struggling to remain civil here.
No one that we know of, has gotten this to work, it's true. Or rather, they haven't specifically gotten it to work with a 1way cable modem and 56k. However, many have gotten *very* similar setups working using any number of different interfaces.
So, the contention that linux isn't suitable for this borders on the inane. If he wants to do nice and/or cool things, he'll have to be willing to be the first, sometimes.
So excuse me, it's about the only cisco product I know by name.
You're going to see problems in iptables, I think. I've never had an opportunity to play with a situation like that though. Seen several options in the kernel config for it, and in theory I know it should work. I'm confident I could get it to work myself, after twiddling awhile. But rather than him asking an intelligent question that I might have been compelled to research a bit for the answer, we get this mindless linksys drivel. God, there are some things I wish would never have been sold.
Yes I did. Build a linux router, with modem and ethernet card. Duh.
Hack you? To me, hacking is building my own pci card, or stuff yet another weird nic in my machine, or finally getting lwared to work correctly with a 2.4 kernel. I can't do that to a linksys router, I wouldn't want to, and you're obviously just a dumb shit. Fuck off.
People that want to use mindless consumer garbage when other better, juts as cheap solutions exist, get what they deserve. End of story.
Name: Lame
Committee method of design: Lame
Idea that if it isn't prepackaged and retard-proof, it has no place in the business world: Lame.
Caldera is involved: Lame.