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Questions for Town Meeting with Congressman?

tongue asks: "I have the opportunity tomorrow to go to a town meeting with my Congressman, Gene Taylor (D, Miss.). I'd like to be able to ask several (preferably intelligent) questions regarding issues facing the technology industry today, on bills like the DMCA, SSSCA, etc; but I'm having trouble narrowing down the field. The research I've been able to do so far indicates a fairly conservative voting record, although I haven't had much luck finding a good site that summarizes a bill-by-bill voting record along with a synopsis of the bill." We did a similar question, last month about the CBDTPA which dovetails nicely with this issue. What questions about these and other questionable electronic laws passed over the last few years, would you like tongue to ask Senator Taylor?

134 comments

  1. Did you vote for the DMCA? by vegetablespork · · Score: 1

    If so, how much money, exactly, did you receive from the entertainment "industry"? (Be sure to have the figures from the FEC handy when he doesn't know/remember.)

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    1. Re:Did you vote for the DMCA? by lightfoot+jim · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Take your pick:

      Have you ever chosen not to accept campaign donations from any corporation, group, or individual because you felt that they harbored agendas which were at odds with the interests of voters in your district?

      You are officially an employee of the voters in your district, however you receive a far greater amount of money from campaign donors. Describe your present efforts to correct this conflict of interest.

      You have consisently voted against tax cut legislation. As a result, voters have to curtail their personal spending to a level which leaves a remainder adequate to cover their tax obligations. Why should the residents of your district vote for someone who would pass a financial burden on to them, rather than work to decrease the costs of maintaining the programs that their tax dollars are spent on?

      You currently have made no opposition to the present policy of incarcerating persons in posession of marijuana. If this policy were enforced consistently, Bill Clinton, Al Gore, and other members of your party would have been ineligible for public office due to criminal records. Describe what you believe the benefits of this outcome would have been.

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  2. Not a Senator by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He's a US Representative, not a Senator. Didja
    follow the link submitted?

  3. Tonguing Senators? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    would you like tongue to ask Senator Taylor?
    Did anyone else read that as "would you like to tongue Senator Taylor"?

    mmmmmm democracy in action

    1. Re:Tonguing Senators? by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 0, Troll

      Tongue'ing congressman is bad, just ask Chandra Levy.

    2. Re:Tonguing Senators? by sjnokker · · Score: 0

      It is said he is better at tongueing than at speaking

    3. Re:Tonguing Senators? by dirkdidit · · Score: 1

      They have interns to tongue them.

    4. Re:Tonguing Senators? by rjamestaylor · · Score: 1

      I was wondering what possible contribution /. readers could offer to the debate. Thanks for answering my question.

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  4. Consequenses by Fenresulven · · Score: 1

    How do they evaluate the consequences of the bills before voting on them?
    It seems to me that this is an area in which they are sorely lacking.

  5. Keep it simple by ColGraff · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Senator, what do you believe constitutes "fair use" of an intellectual property product, such as a DVD, computer game, etc. Do you believe people should be able to make back-up copies of such products?

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    1. Re:Keep it simple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Senator, has any other illegal activity inspired either a greater quantity of or a more convoluted set of attempts to justify said activity on such patently shaky grounds? I refer of course to the sudden propensity for every teenage nerd to take an active interest in the activities and political positions of congressman in the hope that those politicians will help them preserve their "right" to get stuff for free.

    2. Re:Keep it simple by lucifuge31337 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And follow up with "Congressman, why does everyone keep calling you Senator?"

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    3. Re:Keep it simple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      backups, while a legitimate reason, have negative connotations with people not familiar with the issues. when conversing with people, I find an e-book example resonates much better, demonstrating that they wouldn't be able to share a good book with a friend, etc.
      while "stealing" is widespread via napster, et. al, most people in the back of their minds think it's "wrong." Reading a book on the other hand, and the fair use people have used with it for years is not a right most people are willing to give up.

      I'd use an example of e-books, or something similiar, and ask him where he'd draw the line.

  6. I have an idea. by buzzbomb · · Score: 1

    Ask him if he sells out the American public to corporations that bribe-- er..."contribute to his campaign."

    Maybe I'm just bitter, but at this point I'm convinced that all politicians are crooks.

    1. Re:I have an idea. by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 2

      You may or may not be bitter. But I'll bitchkick anyone that even suggests that you're delusional.

      They *ARE* all crooks.

    2. Re:I have an idea. by packeteer · · Score: 1

      regardless of what name you give me they ar all alike... they only understand 2 things... MONEY and POWER... so whatever you do try to phrase it in a form they will take to heart... remember: corporations have LOTS of MONEY people have LOTS of votes which means lots of POWER... its a conflict betweent the two as always but make sure you point out several things: 1. These laws/bills dont do much other than hurt consumers and add money to already rich people (try not to mention that those rich people probably give him money) 2. There is quite a bit of money flowing around copying of cd's/dvd's these laws hurt more than just consumers . 3. Your a voter and there are many more like you.

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    3. Re:I have an idea. by FurryFeet · · Score: 2

      yeah, and all blacks have rythm, all latins wear charro hats and all whites are card-carrying KKK members.
      Generalizations are wrong, and serve only to further hate and bigotry.
      Consider yourself bitchkicked, whatever the hell that is.
      I have to give it to you, tough: You're one of the most successful trolls I've ever seen. I can't believe how many moderators fall for your redneck stupid rants.

    4. Re:I have an idea. by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 2

      You *are* stupid. Redneck doesn't exactly apply to me, and the contention that my statement was in any way a stereotype or generalization is wrong.

      Hate? No, I don't hate them, and bigotry doesn't really mean anything in this context either, unless you want to distort the meaning so much it fails to remain useful.

      Troll? Well, guilty as charged, though this was one time I wasn't trolling.

    5. Re:I have an idea. by bafu · · Score: 1

      Generalizations are wrong, and serve only to further hate and bigotry.

      A generalization, being what is is, will be wrong, I agree. However, they are about all we have to work with until we achieve universal complete knowledge. One of the kewl things about the way our minds work is that we can make generalizations so easily and, as a result, we are still able to function in a wide range of situations even though we don't have perfect knowledge of any of the situations. It's one of those things that makes achieving "artificial intelligence" such a pisser. Generalizations can vary in usefulness, of course, depending on their degree of wrongness. Ideally we should try to favor good generalizations (less wrong) avoid bad generalizations (more wrong). Your contention that generalizations "serve only to further hate and bigotry" would, for example, be a rather extreme example of a bad generalization.

  7. For a conservative, call for "conservative" action by Howzer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Senator, since the main effect of lengthening the period of copyright and patent protection seems to be to stifle competition, when do you think we will see a move back to the principles established by the framers of the constitution and a _shortening_ of the protection period?

    Someone can write this question better and more accurately than me I am sure, but a question to that effect might be interesting to hear answered.

  8. General mood of the questions by jonman_d · · Score: 5, Informative

    I had a chance to "shadow" ( read, "follow around" ) a senator for NYS a few months ago. Basically, my advice to you is: be very specific with your questions. Do this for two reasons: it assists with their answer, and if a question is broad, they won't answer it. From what I gather, politicians don't like to say anything broad, unless they're trying to get out of a sticky situation. So give a specific question, and demand a specific answer.

    Also, don't insult the man. Believe it or not (don't listen to most Slashdot readers ;) he does have a tough job. Even if he is as currupt as Swiss Cheese, show him some respect. He deserves it.

    And lastly, if he does refuse to answer a question, find out why. If he's got a good reason, move on - don't try and punch the heck out of him, or he won't be forthcoming in the future. If he constantly refuses to answer questions, however, politely show your displeasure and remind him that he works for you.

    Hope that helps - good luck!

    1. Re:General mood of the questions by SpamJunkie · · Score: 1

      From what I gather, politicians don't like to say anything broad, unless they're trying to get out of a sticky situation.

      True. In my experience, this means politicians tend to give very broad answers. See nearly any answers by G W Bush. Usually when a specific answer is given it doesn't answer the question asked at all.

      Also, don't insult the man.

      Yes, it makes the questioner look ignorant. Also if he gives a poor answer the insult becomes the excuse.

    2. Re:General mood of the questions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "c[o]rrupt as Swiss Cheese"?

      wtf?

  9. Eula's - How about putting some limits? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's always seemed to me that eula's are completely one sided. They impose restrictions on consumers with no appropriate standards placed back upon the sellers. How about passing some legislation on restricting eula's. A good starting point would be this:

    http://www.cexx.org/svla.htm

  10. Don't you care about the children? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Ask him why he isn't doing more to stop the pirating of children's storybooks?

    Doesn't he know that if parents keep trading these books on Napster the authors will go hungry and find another line of work? If kids aren't reading, then they'll be on the street at night, we'll need a program of Midnight Storytelling to save the children.

  11. Bad news by Pomme+de+Terre! · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you think these townhall meetings are forums to pursuade or convince your Congressman of *anything*, you will be pretty disappointed.

    These things are primarily designed to get a nice story in the local paper, and maybe help a few people with "The road near my cousin's house is falling apart" or "I'm getting the runaround from can you help?"

    If you are serious about garnering insight or pursuading your congressman of anything beyond the superficial, you need to set up a private meeting with him or one of his staff. (This is not a difficult thing to do, and contrary to the press, you do not need to be a millionaire contributor to do it.)

    At the said meeting, you need to have a concise argument ready, provide facts, figures, and documentation. ("I hate Microsoft and think everyone should use BSD" will not cut it.)

    Please be knowledgable about your subject. The fact that you're dredging Slashdot for talking points is not a good sign, and will likely do more harm than good when the conversation gets into specifics and fine details. Remember, the idea is to convince, not just spout off your opinion.

    Technology issues are a huge body of legislation, and you will more than likely find at least somebody on his staff with experience in such matters, who will be the true path to action. (Staffers are the key to power.)

    I can promise you that any townhall grandstanding about any substantive issue will result in a noncommittal "That's really good point, and there are a lot of people who agree with you. Let me look into it."

    Pomme de Terre

    1. Re:Bad news by Sloppy · · Score: 2

      One of the features of a "town meeting" is that the congressman isn't the only person there. There's also the town. Getting a question out into the open -- a question about an issue that 99% of people haven't even thought about -- has the potential to infect some minds. So don't let cynicism stop you from asking.

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  12. The good questions... by greygent · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Mr Senator...boxer or briefs? Choice of cigar?"

    Really, can these recently-submitted "Ask Slashdot" questions get any sillier and unimportant? Probably.

    1. Re:The good questions... by joshuahull · · Score: 1

      actually i just saw the end of the submission and thought:

      would you like tongue to ask Senator Taylor?

      was actually:

      would you like to tongue Senator Taylor?

      then i got to thinking.. hhm.. a senator.. i could do worse..

  13. ACLU Voting Record by Peridriga · · Score: 3, Informative

    Voting record of Mr. Taylor on ACLU issues

    ACLU's Voting Record

    1. Re:ACLU Voting Record by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Man, 88% against the ACLU... Cool! This guy's got a spine and brains!

  14. Figure out who sponsored his campaign by Jeppe+Salvesen · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Before you go, you should figure out if he received money from any special interest group or corporation. If he's been bought, a good followup question could be "Do you feel that there is a conflict of interest in making a statement on this issue, when you received $xx.xxx from yyyyyyy inc?".

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    1. Re:Figure out who sponsored his campaign by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Jews?

  15. it doesn't matter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You'll get to ask one question, she'll glandhand you over it and then move on to "more important things" like "saving the children from internet rapists" and "fighting terrorism".

  16. What are these bumps? by bryan1945 · · Score: 2

    "Mr. Congressman, I slept with you wife last week, and now I have these ichy boils, I was wondering if you could elaborate on their origins?"

    But to be serious, I have emailed my Congress-critters and Senators a couple of times about different topics related to tech (minus the wife part!). I get varried responses from each person for each topic, so they seem to DO care about certain topics. It must vary from person to person, but I got a couple of hand signed letters for some things before, so don't despair that everything you send is totally disregarded.

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    1. Re:What are these bumps? by nomadic · · Score: 2

      The people who complain loudest about congress being completely in corporate hands etc. tend to be the least informed about the issues anyway. There are money grubbing lowlives in congress, but there are also good, honest people as well.

    2. Re:What are these bumps? by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Name a single male, non-gay congressman you could trust in a locked room, alone with your 15 yr old daughter, for more than 5 minutes.

      Name a congressperson, any one, currently in office or that was in office in the last 10 years, that never looked the other way when they noticed they were getting quesionable capaign donations, even once.

      Name a congressperson, any one, currently in office or that was in office in the last 10 years, that publically ridiculed another major member of their own political party and didn't back down until that member resigned or publically apologized/changed their stance.
      (Note: Democrats abandoning Clinton don't necessarily count, unless you can prove that they recently had some honest words to say about him. The words "rats on a sinking ship" come to mind, too many are willing to ride the waves on the flotsam from the wreck.)

      Name a congressperson, any one, currently in office or that was in office in the last 10 years, that willingly and knowingly ruined their chances at re-election just to do the right thing. (Note: Prepare to back this up, I won't consider those that voted for term limits, for instance, knowing that the bill wouldn't pass anyway.)

      Name a congressperson, any one, currently in office or that was in office in the last 10 years, that has pubically complained about specific spending that they called "pork" when it was their own state/district that stood to gain from the bill.

      Answer a single one of these questions, and maybe I'll have to consider that there are a few "good, honest people" in congress. If it makes you feel any better, you were half right, you can find plenty money grubbing lowlives in the Capitol building.

      Please, feel free to add other qualifying questions to my little litmus test, maybe he'll be able to answer at least one.

    3. Re:What are these bumps? by Disevidence · · Score: 2

      I don't have any info about this (couldn't be bothered looking it up), but that lone dissenting voice against the patriot act? Whoever it was, they at least voted with common sense in the instance. It couldn't of been good for their re-election chances either.

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    4. Re:What are these bumps? by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 2

      I was wondering if someone would mention that.

      You have to decide for yourself if it counts... but my opinion is less than flattering.

      Biology teaches us that certain animals may develop more than one strategy for any given purpose. I can't remember an exact example, but I think the latest I've read about was a certain species of iguana, and how they go about mating. As it were, there were 3 different strategies (Note: Is it coincidental the number was 3, as in scissors rock paper?), such as female impersonation, harem-building, and "ambush". Researchers studied these things for 3 years (I'm still debating if this was money well spent), and no single strategy emerged as the winner. Harem building would be the best strategy for awhile, until one of the other 2 strategies started working. But the thing that stood out, was this:

      The most successful strategy just happened to be the least popular at the time.

      This principle also hints at other things, for instance the stock market. Often, the most popular strategies are less successful than someone bucking the trend, and bucking it early (those who buck it late, are the band wagon jumpers who make it the most popular, less successful strategy).

      I believe this "system" rears its ugly head in politics too, at least to some minor extent. And I can't rule it out here. So, the real question is, did this behavior, this instinct, influence Feingold at all?

      I mean, let's take a look at the facts. Even if he wanted this bill to pass, he had to have know it would, and his vote didn't matter. He was free to vote however might benefit or amuse him, without disrupting it.

      If voting against was bad, he could easily say something along the lines "I'd vote against in any circumstance like this, just because it's good principle that nothing be unaminous in such grave controversial circumstances... every position deserves a defending attourney as it were, and fate chose me for the role." Who could argue with that?

      And if he doesn't have to say that, well then, he picks up votes from people like you, while still maintaining most, if not all of the rest of his constituency. Hell, maybe not on this particular issue, but he could even have campaign commercials lauding such a dissenting vote "Everyone else voted for this bill, only one man had the courage to stand up against it, and say NO." And as a strategy, it is very likely to not be harmful, as long as its not used frequently.

      I can't prove any of this, but at best, Feingold deserves a "maybe" here. Hopefully someone better informed than I will reply.

    5. Re:What are these bumps? by elflord · · Score: 2
      I believe this "system" rears its ugly head in politics too, at least to some minor extent. And I can't rule it out here. So, the real question is, did this behavior, this instinct, influence Feingold at all?

      You'd need to look at his record, but he strikes me as being very principled, from what i've seen of him.

  17. Don't look stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Be sure not to follow the lead of earlier commenters and Cliff by referring to Congressman Taylor as Senator. I'm not to sure he would take you all too seriously. Also, his conservative voting record would be a reflection of the conservative district which he serves in Mississippi (Who thought Wallace would make a good president). Which just goes to show the Congressman Taylor votes on the mandate of the people, and doesn't always follow his own agenda.

  18. some starters by Alan+Cox · · Score: 5, Interesting

    1. What is the US doing about the terrible state of computer security (one to get him happy and talking)
    2. What is the US government planning to do about the consequences this terrible security and lack of privacy laws is having on identify theft and the risk of terrorists using stolen identity (technique 2 - link two things in one question and make it hard for them to give answers heading in a direction away from you)
    3 - The DMCA is supressing important research into security technologies, given the lack of security how do you justify this (get him on what he has admitted then force answers)
    4 - What plans does the US government have for laws to prevent abuse of end user license agreements, digital rights management and other new technologies (note - you dont ask if there is a problem you state it and ask what they will do. a) this lets you make a point to him about what you see as important b) puts him in a position where he has to justify the position and explain it - the more you can keep them talking on such questions the better 8)
    5 - Software patents, meritless lawsuits, high taxes and complex restrictions on exports are making it ever harder for business to justify remaining in the USA and not moving elsewhere. What are you doing to simplify it (same theory as above, and the word 'tax' requires an answer 8))
    6 - Copying a protected ebook, even to help a blind user read it now carries a typical sentence higher than that of assault and many other acts of violence against the person. In these times of rising violent crime isn't it about time the US government got back to the needs of the people not the needs of large corporations.

    1. Re:some starters by DickPhallus · · Score: 2

      Overall, very good questions, but just to nitpick ;)

      In these times of rising violent crime isn't it about time the US government got back to the needs of the people not the needs of large corporations.

      Violent crime seems to be on the decline.

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    2. Re:some starters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting
      You are not likely to sway the congressman in such a meeting, and making them uncomfortable may work against you.

      Alan has some good points, but you are unlikely to get 6 questions in. You need to shorten up this script. Also, Alan's questions are not the kinds of things a U.S. citizen might ask. You want to bait the hook to get them to swallow it (use more carrot, not too much stick). You want to ask what the congress and the congressman in particular will do.
      1. What legislation are you supporting to improve the state of computer security and electronic privacy (to prevent identity theft and terrorism).
      2. DMCA and related laws suppress domestic security research (e.g. Ed Felten at Princeton), and prevent disclosure of foreign research to U.S. researchers (e.g. Dmitry Sklyarov). What are you going to do about this?
      3. Customers have certain expectations of fair use when they buy something. What are you doing to protect the consumer's right to fair use (such as making a backup) when it is currently against the law to transform a copy protected ebook into a readable form for a blind owner.
      4. Export restrictions, and patents are hindering innovation by all but the largest corporations (who can afford to fight it out in court). What are you going to do to make it feasible for open source and independent commercial developers to create new software without fear of lawsuits or being forced out (e.g. Netscape by Microsooft).
    3. Re:some starters by peddrenth · · Score: 1

      And on a related point, what questions would you reccommend for UK politicians?

      (I've been trying to write some questions for UK MP/MEPs after recent articles on EUCD, but it's difficult to phrase vague concerns into definite questions for non-techincal politicians)

    4. Re:some starters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's pretty funny, because I was just thinking the exact same thing: justify that statement. But who'd argue with the man himself, uh?

    5. Re:some starters by Alan+Cox · · Score: 2

      So find an equivalent item. I'm trying to help from across the pond. Im sure you can find *some* suitable figure - fear of being attacked, non government reports, drug induced violent crime ?

    6. Re:some starters by Alan+Cox · · Score: 2

      Actually my suggestions were coming from the UK side, and probably reflect the ones more appropriate to the UK than the USA (as someone noted above there are better and much more US sane ways to ask the questions)

      Ask intellectuals about the fact works will be lost for ever. Ask socialists about the terrible effects on the disabled. Ask conservative anti-EU people how come the EUCD is forced on them by an unrepresentative foreign power. Ask conservative pro-EU people how the security services will function when things like watermarks will reveal which agent leaked documents that appear in court.

      As to our dear Tony Blair and his cronies - don't bother. They have their heads so far up the arse of big business that if Bill Gates eats lentils for tea Tony is going to suffocate.

    7. Re:some starters by DickPhallus · · Score: 1

      I agree, just wanted to point it so he could strengthen his argument. I don't have anything to add unfortunately.

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  19. Who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    These slimy balls of filth only care about their retirement.

  20. for example by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "Congressman, I'm sure I speak for many people in the district in appreciating your efforts on [warm-fuzzy bill he sponsored]. As you may know, S.2048, the Consumer Broadband and Digital Television Promotion Act, would severely encroach on every person's right to lawful everyday use of industry-standard computers. It's being pushed by the entertainment conglomerates to eliminate digital devices that they don't approve of, even when those devices, such as computers and DVD players, are used to play amateur, independent, or public domain media. To protect the market share of these companies, S.2048 would make it a felony to make or sell... well, just regular computers like we have today.

    "What is your position on S.2048? For or against?"

    It's very important to stop talking now, as what I wrote is already a little long. Make sure you end your speech/question with this direct yes-or-no-type question.

    Also it wouldn't hurt to schmooze the Congressman's staff people before or after the meeting. Just say hi, give them your card, and mention that you're against S.2048.

    Your effect might be limited, however; as its name implies, S.2048 is a Senate bill and hasn't yet emerged from Judiciary Committee. There's a decent possibility it will not get to the House in its present form during this term.

    Good luck.

    1. Re:for example by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Your effect might be limited, however; as its name implies, S. 2048 is a Senate bill and hasn't yet emerged from Judiciary Committee.

      True enough, but it does have a counterpart in the House.

    2. Re:for example by 00_NOP · · Score: 2

      the Consumer Broadband and Digital Television Promotion Act

      Ehhh...if it's already an Act, aren't you stuffed already? Surely it's a Bill. (I don't live in the US, so don't know the answer).

  21. Economic Repercussions by Drakker · · Score: 2, Interesting

    How do you calculate the impact of the bills on the global economy?

    How come you didnt anticipate that, for exemple, the DMCA could be used to shut down legitimate project that greatly benefit the population? (see for exemple the DMCA used by Sony to shut down the tinkering done to the AIBO, even though Sony realised that tinkering with their Aibo was a good thing and are now pushing it forward).

  22. Conservative vs Liberal by mikec · · Score: 2

    On issues of privacy, copyright, fair use, etc., liberal vs. conservative is not a very useful way to look at things. Worry instead about libertarian vs. authoritarian.

    There are quite a few in both the liberal and conservative camps who would happily bargain away your freedom for a Hollywood fundraiser or a chance to demogogue about porn or 9/11. And there are quite a few in both camps who have a libertarian bent and are tend to defend freedom.

  23. Senator? by TedCheshireAcad · · Score: 2

    Did anyone else pick up that he is a Congressman and not a Senator?

    1. Re:Senator? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, you're right, he's a House Representative. However, the title of Congressman is reserved for both Senators and Representatives.

    2. Re:Senator? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wtf can't congressman mean seanator. ive always wondered. i call the reps the reps....

    3. Re:Senator? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Congress includes both the house of representatives and the senate so being a congressman does not exclude being a senator. Gene Taylor is a representative though and not a senator so your point still stands.

  24. If you can't think of anything... by willybur · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Though the EFF and the ACLU have *somewhat* one-sided perspectives on such legislation, they're still a great resource. The papers that the EFF produces are always highly detailed and informative in nature. Maybe just stating some choice stats or using the information as background could help you get your point across.

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  25. The truth, the whole truth... by zentigger · · Score: 1

    You don't seriously expect an _honest_ answer do you. Of course you are going to end up with some sugar-coated pablum that will make a great sound byte on the local radio station.

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    1. Re:The truth, the whole truth... by globaljustin · · Score: 1

      you idiot, yes i'm calling you an idiot, and i'm not flamebait....

      you know it all computer geeks think you've got it all figured out, but you don't know a damn thing about politics....

      these people deserve the benefit of the doubt.. If you look at politics expecting dishonesty and sugar coated answers, you will find exactly that...

      have an open mind *maybe* some of our leaders *might* be honest people trying to do a difficult job

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  26. Voting Record... by Lone_Ronin · · Score: 1

    Here's a nice page that details Rep. Taylor:

    http://www.vote-smart.org/vote-smart/profile.pht ml ?func=front&ID=H2152103&dtype=B&state=ZZ

    If you click on the "Voting Records" link, it takes you to a slew of major votes by your rep. Select the appropriate issues that matters to you and find out how he voted!

    The Internet section is a bit slim, so you might have to try other places for voting records on smaller, specific items.

  27. A little advise: by numbuscus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you want more information about his voting record, just take a look at Opensecrets.org. I seem to notice a high correlation between campaign donations, the people who give them, the issues they support, and the way Senators/Representatives vote. Buying votes - it's called democracy.

    As for questions to ask, I worked for a Senator for a while (I was an intern - nothing exciting). Anyway, it was my job to help set up these town meetings and I'll tell you one thing, Senators are very busy people. They only know what their aides have told them. Not because they aren't intelligent enough to understand the issues (most are very astute), they just don't have time to study every issue. I suggest asking very general questions like:

    "Senator Hollings recently introduced a bill that will require every piece of electronic hardware to possess copyright protection. It has been argued by hardware manufacturers and consumer advocates that this will increase the costs of production as well as infringe on consumer's rights; what do you think of this bill?"

    In essence, give him some background and try to get him to commit to something. Most good politicians will be able to easily sidestep the issues; however, if the question is clear enough, even the dullest watcher will be able to tell that he's trying to evade the question. Now, if you know his position on a topic, and you don't agree with it - go for the throat, but nicely. Try to get him to commit to an answer. Politicians hate committing to anything - and they hate their voting records to be scrutinized.

    Hope this helps and I hope you agree with me on most issues. I hate helping the enemy. :-)

    1. Re:A little advise: by pythorlh · · Score: 2
      A little advise:

      How convenient. Now I won't have to "forward you this email in order to have your advise."

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  28. Nice job by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    /. once again proves it's incompetence as a 'news' site. With such a consistently low political savvy quotient, it's amazing this place isn't laughed off the internet.

    1. Re:Nice job by Serial+Troller · · Score: 0

      Slashdot was officially "laughed off the Internet" in June of 2001.

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      STOP ME BEFORE I POST AGAIN!

    2. Re:Nice job by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If slashdot is so bad why are you wasting your time reading it then? ... seems to me your the one to be laughed at..

  29. Re:A little advise: a little followup by numbuscus · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I noticed your rep is on the armed services committee. If you're so inclined, ask him to give his opinion on free software, security, and M$'s push to get open source out of the military. Ask him how M$'s apparent problems with security would 'help' keep America safe.

  30. Re:First JESUS ROCKS!!! by jimlintott · · Score: 1, Funny

    Next time you post a joke you should try a funny one, like:
    Two Nuns walked into a bar. "Ouch".

  31. General Common Sense by squared99 · · Score: 1

    Sir, isn't it true that in the past new technologies and innovations have driven new industry and business, eg. moving to electric lights from oil lamps? And was this only possible with no interference, or at least no government funded interference, from industries that made money off the previous models(i.e lamp oil makers)?

    If we want to continue to move forward with technology and improve on existing technologies shouldn't it be the industries(RIAA, Hollywood) that have to adapt, sink or swim and not the technology? Or for that matter, should it not be the consumer that drives the market, by choosing those emerging technologies they prefer?

    How can we advance, if invested interests constantly interfere or control that advancement?

    Might be a bit long, but maybe you can grab some ideas from this? Let's hear how it goes. G'luck

  32. I had something like this by bsDaemon · · Score: 1

    My congresswoman (Davis, R, VA) came to my school. She was a fucking clod. She had no clue what I was talking about -- thought that it was about Napster. She wouldn't answer anyone else's questions, just rehashed them and called them answers. So, I stood up and shouted at her "you suck, I'm never gunna vote for you!" The only reason she got elected was because the NRA put so much money into her -- and then only 'cause the other guy was a constitution-hating gun-nabber.
    I think the hardest part about this battle is that they are so uninformed. They sit in their little committees and have no clue what goes on out side of that. They just vote based on the reccomendation of the committee -- and even then along party lines, in most cases.

    1. Re:I had something like this by global_diffusion · · Score: 2

      I think the hardest part about this battle is that they are so uninformed.

      If you feel that they are uninformed, then why not put together a package for them containing an outline of the situation and references where to find out more? Ignorance is only a temporary problem.

    2. Re:I had something like this by Salgak1 · · Score: 1
      I was wondering WHICH Davis you were talking about. There ARE two, the other one, Tom Davis (R-11-VA) is fairly well informed on tech issues. . .as he used to be General Counsel to one of the big DC-area tech consulting firms.

      Mind you, that didn't stop him from voting for the CDA (with the excuse of "I know it's unconstitutional, but the courts will stop it in a heartbeat." He wasn't so thrilled with my follow-up question: "If you KNOW it's unconstitutional, then isn't voting for it a direct violation of your Oath of Office, the "protect and defend the Constitution. . ." part ????

      Needless to say, that was my last conversation in public with Tom Davis. . .

    3. Re:I had something like this by saden1 · · Score: 1

      I met Tom Davis a couple of times and he seemed like a cool guy but like all the SOBs in congress they have to stick with the party line or no money for your campaign. Both my father and I voted for him even though we are democrats...well he'll have at least one less votes in the next election. We're going to vote independent come November. The system has failed...it has become scratch my back I'll scratch yours.

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    4. Re:I had something like this by bsDaemon · · Score: 1

      Joanne Davis (spelling)...like I said..Congresswoman. First District.

  33. I would ask..... by grung0r · · Score: 1

    What are your views on how to stop scourge of sharpies and other ink based copy protection defeating devices on the music industries profits?

  34. How about 1% tax on copyright assessed values? by Paul+Fernhout · · Score: 2, Interesting

    (I posted this idea a day or so ago in another thread, but I think this could be a good thing to start asking congresspeople about.)

    Why don't copyright holders pay an annual tax of 1% on an assesment of the value of keeping their copyrights out of the public domain, like real estate holders do? If they stop paying annual intellectual property taxes, the copyright could revert to the public domain, like real estate reverts to the state when real property taxes are not paid. This would be a great way to increase federal and state tax revenues, while also promoting the public domain.

    Essentially, since the "for limited times" bargain has been broken by copyright holders lobbying for extensions, shouldn't the bargain be re-balanced by now taxing all copyright holders for keeping their works out of the public domain? Why are copyright holders so fast to claim they hold so called "intellectual property" and yet they so far seem to remain exempt from any sort of annual "property tax" for the upkeep of the information superhighway that makes their so-called property so valuable, and the public domain of ideas which they draw from to create copyrighted works?

    ==== more background ====

    If the Supreme Court rules against Eldred etc. and allows indefinite
    copyright extensions (or even if they don't), here is an amusing idea. I
    think I saw the germ of it first in another user's comment on Slashdot
    months ago -- and now that I poke around the web and usenet I see that
    many others have discussed it a tiny bit. In such a worst case where
    copyrights are indefinite, perhaps a property tax on copyright owners
    might be enacted as a last resort, where rights holders get to choose an
    assessed value for having the monopoly of all rights to the work, and
    rights holders pay some percentage (1%?) per year of that assessment,
    with the restriction then rights holders have to release the work to the
    public domain if a payment to them is made for the assessed amount.

    Possibly the assessment would be broken down into rights categories, so
    that there could be payments for freeing specific subrights -- like
    non-commercial use. This category approach would allow a work to be
    bought into the public domain in stages.

    For example, if the Theodore Sturgeon Literary Trust puts, say, a
    million dollar valuation on the "Skills of Xanadu" story (ironically
    about freedom) relative to releasing it into the public domain (say, so
    they could pursue movie rights for it), at an "intellectual monopoly"
    tax rate of 1%, the trust would have to pay $10000 per year to keep the
    monopoly. But if the Trust puts only a $1000 value on "The Skills of
    Xanadu" to avoid significant taxes (only $10 a year then), I'd take out
    my checkbook, maybe along with some other fans, and it would be free
    today.

    Note this assessed amount is for release into the public domain, not
    necessarily the amount to be paid by someone else who wants the monopoly
    transferred to them, which might be higher or lower, just like what real
    estate sells for isn't necessarily the assessed rate. Since it it hard
    to assess the value of a copyright, let the rights holder do it, as long
    as this public domain buyout clause was in place to prevent overly low
    self assessment of monopoly value.

    If some people call patents and copyrights "intellectual property" (yes,
    I know that term begs the question of how to handle them) then why not
    laugh at them and just tax ownership of such "property"? After all, just
    like real estate owners pay taxes to offset the heavy continual burden
    their property puts on society (a need for police, fire departments,
    water, roads, sanitation, planning boards, zoning, local schools, etc.),
    there is a heavy continual burden on society for enforcing copyright
    (prisons for infringers, costs of salaries for judges in court cases,
    the time cost to individuals of making fair use determinations,
    government subsidized distribution channels like the internet, the need
    for the government to maintain accurate records, lawmaker's time, etc.)
    which ideally should be born by copyright holders as opposed to the
    general public.

    Yes, I know such a tax might wreck havoc with the GPL or other freely
    licensed software too. Most GPL copyright holders would probably need to
    set their copyright assessment prices low and risk public domain
    buyouts. And there are issues with previously selling off exclusive
    rights separately to a work (although such rights holders could pay part
    of the tax.) And there are issues with incrementally developed works, or
    works with multiple copyright holders...

    Still, the big issue is that the cost to society of the copyright
    monopoly on any work is potentially high, and the person who should be
    paying that social cost is really the rights holder, rather than passing
    on external costs to others, as a form of social pollution. Some would
    argue rights holders already paid a copyright tax when they registered.
    Yet, people who get real estate pay a title transfer fee (sort of like a
    copyright registration or renewal fee) but they still pay property taxes
    afterwards too. If there was no records of taxes paid on a copyright,
    it could be presumed public domain, or the copyright owner could be
    pursued for tax evasion (until they disclaimed it to the public domain,
    of course). This would make the state of copyright much clearer than the
    current situation where it is very expensive to determine if a work is
    under copyright, and if so, who currently owns it and how to contact
    them. With real estate, all this is a matter of public record.

    When registering to pay "intellectual property" taxes for their
    monopolies, copyright holders might be required to deposit a complete
    copy of the content and preferred form source in digital format in
    escrow. This escrow would be in part to allow people wanting to use
    public domain materials to easily search published content against
    registered works. Escrow would also be in part to ensure the work would
    be available unencrypted and unprotected when it became public domain,
    such as if the rights holder stopped paying property taxes on it.

    Perhaps the way to win the copyright battle, if all else fails, is to
    give copyright holders what the want, then something else too that
    naturally goes with it. Microsoft would have to put a price on releasing
    the Windows source code to the public domain for example (including all
    previous versions, which might have separate prices), and then they
    would finally be forced to pay taxes. Yes, perennially people have
    resisted taxes on capital, so it's an uphill battle, but it is another
    front of the copyright battle to consider.

    Obviously, stocks and bank accounts aren't often taxed by the federal
    government while held (though some states do like with Florida's
    "Intangible Personal Property Tax"),
    http://www.myflorida.com/dor/taxes/ippt.html
    so the argument would have to be worked through if the taxation was at
    the federal level. And of course this makes the government meddle more
    in everyone's affairs (at least, those claiming copyrights or software
    patents) but maybe that's OK considering the alternative in this case
    and how much they meddle already.

    And, while I'm dreaming :-), half the money raised from the intellectual
    monopoly tax could be used to fund more free software and free content
    (and the other half would go to pay down the Federal deficit).

    Note: even with laws like the above, I would support some form of
    author's moral rights regarding their works, enforced separately from
    copyright.

    --
    A 21st century issue: the irony of technologies of abundance in the hands of those still thinking in terms of scarcity.
    1. Re:How about 1% tax on copyright assessed values? by gehrehmee · · Score: 2

      Some very interesting ideas there, especially considering that the GNU philosophy is targetted at the (eventual) removal of software copyright from the equation altogether.

      As for that awkward intermediate period, the key would be including in the tax-exemption a clause covering not-quite-public-domain software with a license that allows unfettered public use. After all, the GPL is really an excellent embodiement of of what public domain is supposed to accomplish: contribution of works to anyone who wants it, in the hopes of producing more unique and creative material.

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      "You know, Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help" -- Calvin
    2. Re:How about 1% tax on copyright assessed values? by Erpo · · Score: 1

      Thought provoking idea. How about a system where a value of X dollars is declared for a certain piece of "intellectual property" when it is copyrighted/patented. %1 of X per year is paid in taxes. After the owner of that piece intellectual propery gains X dollars in income from its licensing, the work becomes public domain. X could be adjusted at any time to allow the copyright holder to retain ownership of the work, but that entity would have to pay "back taxes."

      It works because:
      -Entities are encouraged to produce works that are of high value to the public.
      -Writers of free software (beer or speech) can retain their rights indefinitely as long as they don't charge for it, but can still accept donations.
      -Passing the 1% tax on to consumers would just cause the work to pass into public domain faster.

      Good idea? Terribly flawed?

      What do you think?

    3. Re:How about 1% tax on copyright assessed values? by Paul+Fernhout · · Score: 1

      Interesting twist. So you're saying the valuation is then essentially expected royalties (as opposed to market value of resale or replacement cost). Economically speaking, there might be some adjustment for discounted future value of royalties (i.e. a dollar received today is usually judged as worth more than a dollar received a year from now, as you can invest it).

      Wondering how rights holders would calculate the dollars of royalty income -- there might be an incentive to cheat there. For example, one might allow someone else to play a copyrighted song one composed as part of a commercial and receive free advertising for something else one markets in return -- it becomes hard to account economically for these transactions as royalty income. One could use "fair market" value estimates but it requires all these transactions to be recorded as barter (and they may not be). Also, the royalty recordkeeping and related auditing is a privacy concern. Also, when measuring royalties, is it gross received, or net after expenses (including executive salaries).

      Also, if a rights holder values something low to avoid taxes, and sits on it, and then when interest perks up, the raise the value, then the public is not served by having a chance to free the work at the lower valuation -- or I guess the back taxes make up for this? (Are they with interest?) Part of the original concept is the public could buy the work into the public domain at this year's current valuation -- do you see keeping this provision in your plan? In either approach, there is a risk/reward aspect to rights holders setting valuations -- they want to avoid paying taxes but avoid being bought out by the public until they have maximized their gain, and so they must make a complex decision (in either scenario, based on cash on hand, probabilities of the work becoming popular, expected interest rates, and so on). But, this is a great example of letting the market decide the value of a work (in the agent of the rights holder setting a valuation to the best of their knowledge of all these issues).

      Are we assuming then that valuations only go up? No tax refund if they lower the valuation?

      I'm not sure how I follow free software owners keep ownership -- or are you saying they set a low valuation (to avoid taxes) but then get no royalties so a buyout never occurs? Would the donations count as royalties?

      Great ideas here even if some issues remain; the more variants we can explore of all this, the better. For example, I really like the idea of thinking about how passing on the cost to consumers accelerates the public domain process -- neat line of thought. I think that is a strong point of your proposal. I also like your notion of setting up a tax structure that encourages entities to produce higher value works (since so much new stuff is junk or copycat things).

      One variant I've thought on the original idea, and it might apply in your suggestion, is when adding the 1% tax on self-assesed valuation, to also remove any income taxes on royalty income. This provides an incentive to financially successful rights holders to support the legislation, while those with copyrights no longer deemed valuable to them commercially (guessing close to 99.9% of works now under copyright) will just let the works fall into the public domain to avoid the intellectual property tax. If that course was pursued, then one might want to set the tax rate at somewhere from 3-15% of assessed value (to make up for some of the lost royalty tax revenue). Under this system, copyright holders would have an incentive to report all income they could as royalty income so it was tax-free. Added to your suggestion, such an idea might counterbalance any trend to under-reporting royalties.

      --
      A 21st century issue: the irony of technologies of abundance in the hands of those still thinking in terms of scarcity.
  35. Ask the Politician this... by tintruder · · Score: 1

    Mr Congressman: In the interest of equal justice under the law, would you: 1. Allow a designated expert to search your computers (work and home) for evidence of illegally obtained or pirated materials? 2. Give a plain-language translation of the EULA from any Microsoft, Oracle, Adobe or similar software publisher. 3. Answer a multiple-choice "what if" questionnaire concerning fair use scenarios. 4. Indicate whether you do or do not support DCMA etc. 5. If in favor of DCMA et. al., could you let us know what kind of pressure Jack Valenti, Hillary Rosen etc. have brought against you? (we know it won't show up in campaign finance disclosures) Is it under the table cash, or do they have pictures of you with underage girls, young boys or farm animals?

  36. No stance on technology by Target+Drone · · Score: 2, Informative
    Issues 2001 has a overview of Gene Taylor's stance on various issues. Interestingly he doesn't seem to have any stance on technology issues although most of the other senators do.

    I think this likely means the senator is not the most technically savvy senator (not that any of them are) and he may not even be aware of a lot of the current IP issues. You might want to try asking the senator a simpler question(s) to show him that his constituents are concerned about IP issues. If you ask him a difficult question he (and the rest of the audience) won't understand it and he'll just side step it.

  37. Process by anthony_dipierro · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What process do you have in place to ensure that you are properly informed of the technological issues surrounding congressional bills? What initiatives are you taking to better streamline the feedback process in this increasingly digital age?

    I notice your presence on the web is rather lacking. Is this due to lack of funds, lack of interest, or some other problem, and is anything being done to address this issue?

    1. Re:Process by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The new slashdotsucks.com sucks, I liked the old one (the "Adequacy" one) better. Bring it back!!!!

  38. Existing copyright laws by Pacer · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Given that "digital piracy" (etc. etc.) is already illegal under existing pre-digital-age copyright laws, is it really necessary to pass waves of new anti-technology legislation that seriously threaten the digital infrastructure that took 40 years to build?

  39. Bills Sponsored by Gene Taylor (D-MS) in the 107th by wrt2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    From THOMAS: Gene Taylor has sponsored or co-sponsored two bills in the 107th Congress. Here they are.
    Looking at this, I'd push the impairing-defense-readiness angle. CBPDTA (?), by preventing DoD from procuring GNU/Linux systems offering greater transparency and security and a lower total cost of ownership, does not contribute to the goal of a leaner, more efficient military and leaves the services more exposed to 21st Century asymmetrical warfighting tactics (e.g., the enemy-du-jour 0wning the properly-licensed regimental IIS server).

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    -- "Why, Mr. Anderson, why? Why do you do it? Why get up? Why keep voting? Do you think you're voting for something?"
  40. Re: CDA by wytcld · · Score: 2

    He voted for the Communications Decency Act. Ask him how tighter controls on distribution and copying of porn can help fatten the bottom line of the commercial pornography industry.
    ___

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    "with their freedom lost all virtue lose" - Milton
  41. Don't set yourself up for a disappointment by ZaBu911 · · Score: 1

    I went to a lecture given by my local congresswoman, under the impression that there would be a forum at the end for our questions to be answered.

    Sure enough, none of my technology-related questions were answered, nor brought up.

    Be prepared for a slew of terrorism-related and patriotism-invoking questions, though.

  42. These Questions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Alan, did you meet your wife on the short bus?
    Alan, how can you fuck such a disgusting creature?
    Alan, is the reason you code so much is so you don't have to look at Telsa's face?

  43. Yikes! Scary misread by murphj · · Score: 1

    What it actually said:
    would you like tongue to ask Senator Taylor?

    What I read:
    would you like to tongue Senator Taylor?

    What I thought:
    ummm... not really

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    SONY. Because caucasians are just too damn tall.
    1. Re:Yikes! Scary misread by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Wow, you are original.

      Fuckwit.

  44. why bother? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    he is a a Democrat. This is the same party-before-country group that called Clinton a hero of the Constitution. if they had any integrity whatsoever they would have left that sham of a party and formed another group that could be trusted. Partisan politics above rule of law and furthering the system of Rank hath all priveledges and no responsibility are all that they care about.

    1. Re:why bother? by zCyl · · Score: 2

      Partisan politics above rule of law and furthering the system of Rank hath all priveledges and no responsibility are all that they care about.

      We will likely see no change in our party system as long as we have a voting system which specifically rewards it. That must be redesigned first.

  45. Voting Registry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I haven't had much luck finding a good site that summarizes a bill-by-bill voting record along with a synopsis of the bill

    That would make for an interesting website... A list of all Reps and the way they voted, and just for good measure a list of which corporations they recieved campaign contributions for. If people started seeing exactly how their elected member was voting it may change a few people's minds about how they decide to vote next election.

  46. you need this: by Bobzibub · · Score: 2

    http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.asp ?CID=N00003350&cycle=2002

    ...and this:

    http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.a sp ?CID=N00003350&cycle=2002

    Since he's a member of armed services committee, I'd ask him about Microsoft lobbying the pentagon for "higher taxes" i guess. ; )

    http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/05/23/0320 22 6&mode=nested&tid=109

    I'd actually ask if
    1) he has any ideas on how Armed Services (pentagon?) can save $gazillion$ due to increased use of open source software and..
    2) if he knows that Microsoft is lobbying to prevent this.

    3) if he doesn't know that you would be happy to send a member of his staff some information.

    He'll likely say 'I haven't been briefed on this' and think 'what the hell is he talking about?' but the seed will be planted......

    Cheers,
    -b

  47. Hypothetical Questions by cybermage · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Given an example of a real-life action that is illegal under the DMCA or SSSCA and ask whether it should be illegal. Then ask him if he's aware of the offending Act's prohibition. For example:

    "If I buy a music CD, should I be allowed to copy it to tape so that I can play it in my car stereo? Or, If I buy an expensive game for my computer, should I be allowed to make a personal copy for every day use to prevent wearing out the original?"

    When he agrees that you should be able, point this out:

    "Both these examples are considered 'fair use' under case law but are being made illegal under the SSSCA. Hardware manufacturers will be forced to make copying for any purpose impossible without expressed permission."

    If he doesn't agree, ask him to explain his reasoning.

    1. Re:Hypothetical Questions by anthony_dipierro · · Score: 1

      If he doesn't agree, ask him to explain his reasoning.

      I don't agree, and I wonder if you'd care to explain yours.

    2. Re:Hypothetical Questions by cybermage · · Score: 2

      "Both these examples are considered 'fair use' under case law but are being made illegal under the SSSCA. Hardware manufacturers will be forced to make copying for any purpose impossible without expressed permission."

      If he doesn't agree, ask him to explain his reasoning.

      > I don't agree, and I wonder if you'd care to explain yours.


      Here's an explaination of fair use.

      Under the SSSCA, hardware manufacturers will have to incorporate copy protection into the hardware. How this protection works will ultimately depend on industry standards, but the obvious intention is to prevent all copying. So, if you buy a game for your computer and want to make a copy, the hardware will prevent you, by law. This would occur even though "fair use" would allow you to make copies. That's one reason why the SSSCA goes too far.

    3. Re:Hypothetical Questions by anthony_dipierro · · Score: 1

      So, if you buy a game for your computer and want to make a copy, the hardware will prevent you, by law. This would occur even though "fair use" would allow you to make copies. That's one reason why the SSSCA goes too far.

      I just don't buy it. That argument failed for the DMCA, and it'll fail for the SSSCA all over again. Fair use is about the right to make copies. It's not about the right to buy and sell devices which facilitate making those copies.

      My problem with the SSSCA has very little to do with any perceived rights to make copies of copyrighted works. It has to do with my right to make and sell computer hardware and software without worrying about implementing some harebrained technology. Ensure to me that x86 compatibles running open source software and connecting to each other all over the world using TCP/IP will be legal to make, use, sell, etc., and I don't give a shit what Microsoft and Adobe and Disney and VA Software do.

      If software companies want to take away my ability to make backup copies, let 'em. If musicians want to take away my ability to listen to mp3s in my car, go ahead. I'll find alternatives. But when the federal government threatens to come into my house and tell me what I can and cannot make and sell. Well, that I have a problem with.

      The DMCA does that to some extent, but the DMCA only applies to hardware and software designed specifically to facilitate copyright infringement. I really don't have any desire to design such things, and I don't see any reason why anyone else should have a right to either.

  48. REPRESENTATIVE TAYLOR by Cutriss · · Score: 2

    Gene Taylor is a member of the US House of Representatives. Mississippi's Senators are Thad Cochran and Trent Lott, both Republicans.

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    "Mod, mod, mod...and another troll bites the dust."
  49. What about our rights? by NanoGator · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Mr. Senator, why are the rights of the corporations (who aren't really people, btw...) being considered before the rights of the voting public? The DMCA and the CBPTBPABPA (I hate that damn acronym!) were designed to take our rights away to protect the 'oh so valuable corporate property', but no legislation was placed to protect our individual rights.

    Right now, it feels like the laws are specifically being passed so that we, the consumers (and tax payers) are legally inclined to pay the MPAA and the RIAA money for absurd reasons. For example, if a DVD I bought gets scratched, I am forced to buy a new one or not watch the movie, all thanks to the DMCA. There isn't a provision that declares that I, as an individual, have the right to take necessary steps to back up the products I invested in. Instead, the big corps were given the right to lock up their precious content and force me to pay again for content I already paid once for.

    Why isn't the government looking to preserve our individual rights before passing laws to help out corporations? Please tell me it's not because we're not paying the gov't enough money. 30% of my yearly income goes straight to the federal government.

    --
    "Derp de derp."
    1. Re:What about our rights? by darkonc · · Score: 3, Insightful
      First of all, what would be wanted is not to back up the DVD. 'Backing up' a dvd is seen by many as euphamism for 'pirating'. Don't shoot your self in the foot by using that phrase.

      The DMCA makes it illegal for you tor RECOVER a damaged DVD using any but the most primative methods. That's more of a catcher than 'backing up' a DVD. Few people would see fit to 'back up' a perfectly good DVD, but many people might get raised hackles at the prospect of being legally prevented from recovering a damaged one.

      I would also suggest a more direct question. The question that I would ask would be more along the lines of:

      The DMCA has severely limited consumer rights, and the Hollings bill (CBPTBPA, or whatever) threatens to almost completely gut consumer rights.
      Do you intend to vote for, or against Hollings' bill -- and what would your justification be for that vote?
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  50. Project Vote Smart by doonesbury · · Score: 2

    Check out Project Vote Smart, a non-partisan group which has the voting records on key votes and position information on a large (LARGE) number of candidates. It's definitely not complete on some of the internet issues, but it may be a good starting point.

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  51. Re:Microsoft under privacy investigation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does the .Net service break EU laws?
    Privacy groups have welcomed the European Commission's decision to investigate whether Microsoft's system of collecting personal information from internet users breaks privacy laws. Dutch MEP Erik Meijer has raised questions about the software giant's .Net Passport service, which is designed to act as a single point of authentication for users when browsing the net. According to a statement from the Commission, an investigation will look at whether the service is compatible with EU data protection laws. The investigation could reveal flaws with any attempt to establish online authentication systems, said Simon Davies, head of watchdog group, Privacy International. Legal implications. Simon Davies, Privacy International "It is a tremendous opportunity to test the rigour of EU law and whether any technical standard for a global identity system can be established easily under European privacy laws," he said. "There are profound legal implications about the flow of information across the world and the privacy stakes are too high to allow Microsoft to control the standard," he added. US privacy groups have hounded Microsoft since the launch of .Net Passport in 1999. Last year an affiliation of US privacy groups asked the Federal Trade Commission to block the launch of Windows XP because of its tie-in with Microsoft's suite of .Net products. Microsoft is already involved in an EC investigation for allegedly designing its Windows operating system to work better with its own server software than those of its rivals. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_2 010000/2010839.stm

  52. Re:http://billparish.com/msftfraudfacts.html by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1) Earnings Management: The first and most important tool Microsoft uses is the manipulation of earnings to ensure analysts' expectations are met. According to an ABC News 1/22/99 article by Michael Martinez, Microsoft's own internal auditor, a respected 30 year veteran and former partner of Deloitte and Touche, was fired in 1996 after informing management that their earnings manipulations were illegal and violations of the SEC and FASB laws. He was given the option to resign or be fired and later settled for $4 million after suing under the Federal Whistle Blowers Act. 2) Speculating on Their Own Stock: Microsoft issues a massive amount of put options. During the same quarter ended 3/31/99, Microsoft sold put contracts on their own stock for $400 million, basically betting that the stock will not decline. They need not worry because they are allowed to "cook the books." Of Microsoft's significant cash balance, it is also a financial fact that more than 65 percent of that cash did not originate from product sales but rather from tax benefits associated with the exercise of stock options, employees prepaying their own wages, and the sale of put contracts on its own stock. Microsoft's financial innovation is making a mockery of financial integrity, ethics, and the securities laws, just as Insull did in the 1920's. 3) Convincing Employees to Take Less Real Wages: Microsoft aggressively markets stock options to new employees in an effort to take wage expenses off the books. They also know that they can pocket the exercise price employees will be required to pay to take ownership of the stock. What also seems clear is that Microsoft is still aggressively marketing its stock option program to new recruits. To quote an email received, "I am about to begin employment at Microsoft and the stock option was the selling factor. Does your article overall state that it will be bad for me and will fail me in my retirement planning?" Is Microsoft fulfilling its disclosure obligations to its own employees, especially those that have put their entire 401K balance in Microsoft stock? This explains how 22 percent of Microsoft's massive cash balance has actually come from its own employees in the form of them prepaying their own wages through stock option exercise prices. 4) Publicly touting the stock: In a recent earnings release, CFO Greg Maffei jokingly cited 10 reasons why Microsoft is a $1 trillion company. A common strategy here is to have top executives issue conflicting statements, one talking up the stock and the other talking it down and then within a few days financial analysts all come out with buy recommendations on the stock due to a small decline. They are making a mockery of financial integrity, ethics, and the securities laws. 5) Controlling the media. After issuing several press releases on PR Newswire, Microsoft told the service to stop issuing my press releases. Microsoft is PR Newswire's largest client. PR Newswire is owned by Miller Freeman of the UK, a large media company that publishes many computer related publications including Information Week in addition to Microsoft focused journals such as the Windows System Developer. Miller Freeman does indeed function as if it were a department of Microsoft itself. 6) Stock Option Accounting: It is important to note that any discussion of stock option accounting must address two completely different and independent situations. The first is to analyze the impact of options exercised and already retired and the second is to analyze the remaining options debt outstanding. This study focused on both whereas most media coverage only focuses on the remaining options debt outstanding. Options Exercised and Retired: When stock options are exercised, the options are retired as the employee takes ownership of the stock. The value of these "retired" options should not be a subject of debate. Upon exercise, the options are valued at the market price of the stock less the exercise price and the employee pays W-2 taxes on this gain, even if the stock is not sold. The company then takes a tax deduction for wage expense for the same amount. What is surprising is that not a dime of this expense is charged to earnings at Microsoft, which they could voluntarily do. This amount alone for 1999 should exceed $9 billion even though net income is only $7.8 billion. Remaining Options Debt Outstanding: The remaining unexercised stock option liability is a completely separate issue and a debt just as real as the current stock quote, especially if half of the options are currently vested and exercisable. We all know that stocks can be over and under valued yet the market gives us a price on any given day and that is the price. The Black Scholes and related footnote disclosure is a great mathematical model yet has become nothing but a Trojan Horse for plundering the retirement system. What the Treasury Department and Federal Reserve might concern itself with is that this debt, $60 billion at Microsoft, has no interest cost that hits the income statement and increases $800 million with each $1 increase in the stock price. Simply put, Microsoft is somewhat immune to Federal Reserve interest rate hikes, which explains why the stock is increasing as the Fed raises rates and continues creating a Long Term Capital like debt pyramid. 7) Purchasing future sales via equity investments: Another earnings management tool being used by Microsoft is the purchase of future sales via equity investments in other companies. Here is my understanding of how that works. I could be wrong on this and therefore the best thing to do would be confirm these claims with their CFO, Greg Maffei. First of all, Microsoft makes a $250 million investment in WebMD for an 11 percent equity stake and part of the deal is that WebMD commits to $100 million of advertising on MSN network. At the same time, Microsoft agrees to subsidize an equal amount in medical prescriptions for people using WebMD. Of course there are a few other interesting aspects of this transaction which won't be addresed in this report. You have basically bartered a purely paper transaction and current accounting rules will allow you to recognize the entire $100 million as revenues for MSN network, even though you are just "trading checks." That is, you are trading subscription subsidies for advertising revenues. Advertising revenues are indeed the political currency of the 1990's. Keating spent his dollars buying influence in Washington, D.C. Microsoft is buying influence on Madison Avenue. 8) Managing the financial analyst community. Another excellent earnings management technique is the management of the analyst community. This can be done by directing investment banking business associated with acquisitions to a variety of firms based upon their opinion of the stock. Microsoft purchased more than 33 companies in 1998. A good example here might be Rick Sherlund of Goldman Sachs, often noted as the guy who can move tech stocks. One might ask why Mr. Sherlund refers to Microsoft as a company with no debt when they clearly have a contractual obligation, just as real as today's stock price, of $60 billion to their employees. Fidelity Investments, one of Microsoft's largest shareholders and also provider of their 401K retirement plan, has been silent on this issue. 9) Trying to Discredit Those Seeking to Expose the Scheme: Microsoft fired its internal auditor, regularly bullies reporters and has told numerous publications that I am an extremist. This might explain why reporters are afraid to print the facts, for instance that Microsoft took a $9 billion tax deduction for wages in 1999 and didn't charge a dime of this amount against earnings. 10) Money Laundering: Microsoft has been aggressively investing cash pilfered from the retirement system in a variety of new businesses, many outside the U.S., including cable investments in Brazil and England. We read about the Russian government robbing its citizens of $10 billion in IMF loans. What about the impact of the retirement system being pilfered and being set up for a Savings and Loan like debacle? 11) Corruption of Higher Education: Microsoft is making massive cash infusions to leading Universities and impairing the system's independence. In the last year alone Microsoft has given MIT more than $50 million in grants, focusing on key growth areas including storage services and software to provide course instruction over the Internet. In the past we were able to rely on these Universities to stimulate key debates yet now they are silent on this pyramid issue. Two Universities that should be ashamed of themselves for not only not disclosing this situation yet also fostering its development are Harvard and Stanford. They are contributing greatly to the complete corruption of our financial markets. 12) Manipulating Investors Who Use a Passive Approach Relying on Indexes Such as the S&P 500. In an effort to reduce investment fees and provide solid diversification, investment based upon mirroring the S&P 500 has become the most significant component of large public pension plans. Since Microsoft represents more than 4 percent of the S&P 500, Microsoft knows that four cents of every dollar going to stock purchases will go toward the purchase of Microsoft stock. Again, this situation has developed because Microsoft has inflated its earnings to such an extent that it looks much more profitable than it really is, fueling interest in the stock and resulting in a market value of close to half a trillion dollars. It is admirable to stick to an investment strategy using passive indexes based upon the S&P 500, yet this is not about investment strategy but rather fraud management. For this reason a letter was sent to the top 100 teachers unions in the country, encouraging them to effect a policy change designed to combat this fraud and have Microsoft removed from their portfolios. California State Controller Kathleen Connell, who sits on the board of the California Teachers Pension, has also been sent a summary of findings in the hope that she will help address this issue. Another good question might be, why haven't the State Teachers fund advisors initiated this effort on their own, that is, to modify the index in order to protect participants and meet their fiduciary responsibility? Is it not also ironic that Judge Penfield Jackson is trying to determine whether or not Microsoft has monopoly power and meanwhile his pension is most likely being plundered by Microsoft in the most significant financial fraud this century? Federal Pensions rely heavily on an S&P 500 index fund. In October the Dow Jones Corporation decided to add Microsoft to the Dow Index. On a market cap basis, Microsoft will now account for more than 15 percent of the entire index given that its market capitalization and stock option debt exceed $540 billion. Microsoft now also has 5.2 billion shares outstanding, not including an additional 800 million shares committed and outstanding to employees for stock options. This means that a $1 change in the stock price creates a change in their market cap of $6 billion. Gross annual sales are only $20 billion, an amount on which significant losses occurred. Sadly, the Dow Jones Corporation, parent to Barons and the Wall Street Journal, has also unknowingly become a key contributor to this massive financial fraud at Microsoft. In the last 6 months the Dow Jones Corporation, which earns licensing fees from these indexes, has initiated two new indexes which will allow Microsoft to accelerate its plundering of the retirement system. These are the Global Titan Index and secondly the revised Dow Index. Both could result in significant new demand for Microsoft stock and leave investors holding inflated paper just as Savings and Loan investors were left holding junk bonds. Given that Microsoft may be the largest advertiser to the Wall Street Journal, perhaps they should make an outright offer to purchase the Dow Jones Corporation. This would provide more clarity regarding constituencies and the Wall Street Journal could be added to the MSN lineup. Rather than disclose this situation, the Wall Street Journal has instead focused on trivial items regarding Microsoft's financial practices, most recently how deferred revenue is recognized. It is astonishing that the Wall Street Journal refuses to report this story. Several Impacts from Microsoft's Financial Pyramid Scheme Include the Following: 1) Government Will Be Defunded. Beginning next year, education, defense and other key programs will have to fight over a sudden and sharp drop in tax receipts. Corporate tax receipts are already down 6 percent while individual receipts are up 6 percent. Since these bogus deductions are able to be carried over and offset against future quarters' earnings, this difference will accelerate in the future and leave various government agencies fighting for a smaller pool of resources. This was forecast in the study. Also to consider are massive AMT tax credits that individuals who paid tax upon exercising options will be carrying forward into next year and offsetting ordinary income tax. Analyzing this situation should be a top priority for both the Federal Reserve and Treasury given the upcoming budget negotiations. There is a unique irony that Bill Gates recently dedicated $1.5 billion to minority student scholarships and at the same time is leading a massive fraud that will effectively defund public education in many states. 2) The Retirement System Is Being Plundered. Most new investment in Microsoft is coming from the 401K, 403B and public pension participants through large funds such as Fidelity, State Street, Barclays and Janus. These fund families will make their fees whether the stock goes up or down and they are clearly not meeting their fiduciary responsibility to plan participants. Their consultants and advisors including Buck, Callan and William Mercer might do a risk assessment based upon the 404C fiduciary requirements. The Savings and Loan debacle took down not only many banks but also their consultants, accountants and law firms. 3) Business Owners Are Exposing Their Personal Assets By Not Paying Enough Attention To Their 401K. ERISA 404C has severe sanctions against employers who are not adequate stewards of their 401K plans, specifically those that do not meet the prudent fiduciary expectation. Such lawsuits are already beginning, the corporate veil is no protection and the law also allows for treble damages. Most CFO's put 401K plans on their "to do" list, check them off once set up and move on to the next thing. Many seem not to grasp that these are, for the most part, non-company assets. 4) The Dollar Is Being Devalued In Relation to the Yen. The Japanese have struggled for 10 years to recover from their own version of accounting fraud and they know that now is not the time to accommodate our monetary desires without first forcing us to face up to the corruption in our own markets. Simply put, Japan is becoming our own personal IMF and will devalue our currency until reforms are initiated. As noted before, what caused the Japanese banking crisis was not plunging real estate values nor bad monetary policy, but rather accounting fraud in which companies put phony assets on the books, in particular software research and development costs. These costs should have been charged to earnings. Loans were made off these bogus assets which helped bank stock values increase, leading to margin lending by consumers to buy the stock, often borrowing off real estate values to get the shares. When the loans could not be repaid and it was realized that there were no real assets backing them, the system collapsed. It was a startling public display of Alan Greenspan's need to brush up on accounting when he actually said in his Jackson Hole speech that corporate profits were understated due to not capitalizing software costs. Those of us familiar with this industry know software is subject to rapidly becoming obsolete with most products requiring constant upgrades to stay competitive. Due to this obvious need for the Federal Reserve to better understand key issues in determining share values, Parish & Company is recommending that the Federal Reserve Board be expanded by one non-voting member from the mutual fund industry. This recommendation includes nominating John Bogle, founder of the Vanguard family of mutual funds, to be considered for this role. 5) False Inflation is Emerging. This paper wealth, rooted in a bogus tax deduction that grossly overstates earnings, is driving Microsoft's stock price which in turn greatly expands the purchasing power for luxury goods and services. Most inflation is now in services and luxury goods and not reflected in the CPI. This is false inflation because it is a result of a scheme, not economic fundamentals. Given the capacity to increase supply due to more efficient production and heightened global competition, it is tough to raise prices. Only monopolies are indeed able to even keep prices at current levels. We therefore have a reality of low inflation competing with a pyramid scheme creating an illusion of inflation. This is not good for any of us, especially the investment industry. 6) The Integrity Of The Markets Is Being Destroyed. This is perhaps the greatest risk and again what led to the Great Depression in the 1930's. It is a fact that Roosevelt wanted to nationalize the accounting profession and make all auditors government employees due to a complete loss of confidence in the accounting profession. 7) The Fraud Is Accelerating. Microsoft reported earnings of $2.2 billion for the quarter ending 9/30/99 although they actually incurred a significant net loss. Company press releases imply that they took a tax deduction for stock option wages of between $2.5-4 billion and none of this amount was charged to earnings. Many investors believe that option wages are charged to earnings when the options are exercised, yet that is false. Employees pay ordinary income tax when the options are exercised, even if the stock is not sold, and the company does take a tax deduction, yet this amount is not charged to earnings. As previously discussed, stock option wages are indirectly considered in the earnings per share calculation due to more shares being outstanding but they are never charged to earnings. These are two completely separate things, that is, charges to earnings and the number of shares outstanding used to calculate earnings per share. In basic fractions we call this the difference between a numerator and denominator. 8) Microsoft auditor, Deloitte and Touche, issued a "clean" audit opinion. This appears to be a clear violation of the SAS auditing standards given that there was no mention in the opinion of several significant items, including the massive contingent liability for stock options. Deloitte has sadly identified itself as a key enabler of this scheme, which is remarkable given that they also function as the auditor for many large pension plans. Fidelity investments is now in the process of gaining approval for Deloitte to audit more plans and does also manage Microsoft's 401K plan. 9) Parish & Company formally requested that the Federal Reserve expand its scope to include more focus on mutual funds and add John Bogle, retired founder of the Vanguard family of funds, as a non-voting member. Mutual funds are to the Federal Reserve what the Internet has been to communications and it is time the Federal Reserve respond. Fidelity Investments alone is now managing more than $600 billion that is completely outside the traditional banking system. This is particularly important given the speed of change in the financial markets. The Federal Reserve needs to be more responsive to breakdowns in the overall system as clearly evidenced by this massive fraud and corruption occurring at Microsoft. Bogle was chosen for his deep knowledge of the mutual fund system and his integrity. A close review of the backgrounds of the federal reserve economists and staff clearly indicate the need for this type of outside influence. More than 75 percent of the Federal Reserve's technical staff appear to come from no more than five universities. 10) Significant one day stock value declines at major corporations that pay more in cash wages than stock options are accelerating. Examples in October include Hewlett Packard, Xerox and IBM. Even though Hewlett Packard is much more profitable than Microsoft, their stock will suffer unless they either join the fraud in an aggressive way or expose it. Let's hope they do the latter. Should we really reward such financial fraud at Microsoft by making its earnings look much better than others when it will result in significant job losses in companies that choose to pay real wages that are charged to earnings? Maintaining a strong stock value is key to competitiveness given the need to purchase outside technology with stock and forge key partnerships. If unable to keep up, these companies will lose market share and be forced to curtail benefits and ultimately lay off significant numbers of employees. These types of layoffs are now accelerating, further destabilizing the economy. Stock options are an excellent benefit yet like all benefits they have a real cost that should be charged to earnings to maintain the integrity of our free market system. 11) Microsoft organized a lobbying effort to defund the Department of Justice, using supposedly non-partisan groups like the Citizens for a Sound Economy. Imagine how difficult it would be for someone like myself, if a government employee, to discuss this situation. I would probably be transferred to a filing job at the North Pole. Strange, how similar to Jakarta we are becoming. Again, the issue is not about stock market valuation but rather corruption and financial fraud. An inside joke among many top Japanese businessmen is that the only place easier to buy influence than Jakarta is Washington, D.C. Now is the time to send a message of integrity and prove them wrong. 12) Conversions to cash balance pension plans are increasing. This is another pyramid impact. What IBM employees still don't seem to realize is that their lost pension benefits are resulting from fraud at Microsoft. Microsoft is pilfering these cash balance plans into its pyramid scheme by overstating its earnings, thereby drawing a larger percent of the index based investment on the S&P 500 and correspondingly making it more difficult for companies like IBM to compete. This forces these companies to cut back on real benefits in an effort to keep its earnings and stock price up. This was also clearly identified in the original study. The Department of Labor has begun reviewing the activities of actuaries with respect to these conversions. Is it not amazing that in many cases these same actuaries are advising public pensions whose assets are being plundered by this massive fraud at Microsoft. In the late 1980's pension raids were very popular and easy to implement. You basically hire an actuary to put forth a new set of assumptions indicating fewer assets are needed to meet pension obligations, and skim off the top. Cash balance plans are a sham and nothing more than a creative way to do what was outlawed in the 1980's. The Department of Labor should aggressively investigate this area. http://billparish.com/msftfraudfacts.html

  53. The other dude by Shriek · · Score: 1
    What questions about these and other questionable electronic laws passed over the last few years, would you like tongue to ask Senator Taylor?


    What questions might Cheek ask also?
  54. Broadband Caping by saden1 · · Score: 1

    This what you should say/ask: It seems that major cable companies in Australia are implementing limits on the amount of bandwidth a user can use per a month...in essence returning to the pay-per-minute internet subscription model. My question is will you sponsor, or even better, present a legislation that would stop such a thing from happening here in the United States since the industry lacks competition.

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  55. I've questioned a Senator before by globaljustin · · Score: 3, Informative

    When I was an intern in a Congressman's office, I was able to attend a number of informal, off-the-record talks between senators, congressman, and interns (and only interns!)

    At the end of the talk, we were allowed to ask questions on any topic, and I got to see first hand what questions work and what questions fail.

    Your question needs to be pointed, but not too specific because believe it or not, a congressman votes on alot of bills everyday, and he doesn't have time to read all of them in depth, that's why he has a staff.

    So a question like "line 2 paragraph 8 of the DMCA says this, but...." won't cut it, he won't know what the hell you're talking about. But if you are too broad, he will just ramble on about nothing for 2 minutes and then move on to another question.

    The best thing for you to do is present one or two simple and well-documented problems/weaknesses with the DCMA, and then ask him how he thinks the problems could be solved.

    And, damn, this is the most important of all...don't buy into the media's portrayal of all government officials being corrupt...give the man the benefit of the doubt and give him the respect he deserves

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  56. you'd never ask this question by globaljustin · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    You would not really ask a question as stupid as the one you posted...would you?

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    1. Re:you'd never ask this question by NanoGator · · Score: 2

      A.) Yes I would ask him that.

      B.) What's wrong with what I asked? If you're going to say what I said is stupid, how about backing that claim up? If it's stupid, fine, but give me reason so I can understand why.

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    2. Re:you'd never ask this question by elflord · · Score: 2
      What's wrong with what I asked?

      The problem is that it's not really a question, it's an angry rant with a few questions thrown in to disguise it as questions. I suppose it all depends on whether you want to ask questions, or whether you want to deliver a lecture.

    3. Re:you'd never ask this question by globaljustin · · Score: 1

      1) You would not ask him the question you posted, and here's why: Since you read slashdot, I'm assuming you are not a complete idiot. If a non-idiot, like yourself, stood up in the middle of a town meeting, mic in hand, and said what you posted, no one would listen to you past

      "Mr. Senator, why are the rights of the corporations (who aren't really people, btw...) being considered before the rights of the voting public?"

      because every thinking person in the room would (rightly) see that your question was in reality a famebait rant. And when you saw the disgusted look on his face after hearing your first line, you'd realize how stupid and flamebait your question is, finish it early, and sit down.

      2)your question is stupid because it is a flamebait rant that would be impossible for anyone to really give an answer to in a 'town meeting'-typ setting. You make alot of broad statements, like the one quoted above, that are prenthetical to the specific issue of the DCMA (and are insulting to anyone in goverment: you're basically calling him corrupt). All he would do is make a few broad statements about not being owned by corporations and having people's rights in mind when he voted for the DCMA, and move on to someone else.

      I shouldn't have just posted 'your question is stupid'...that was pretty stupid on my part. See my post "I've Questioned a Senator before" for more on why I can say this with some authority.

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    4. Re:you'd never ask this question by NanoGator · · Score: 2

      Not sure if I expressed it too well, but I basically wanted to know what's going to be done to secure our rights.

      I personally don't believe that this whole piracy issue can be sorted out until the law spells out what we can legally do. If the law says that we can legally backup a DVD, for example, then the law says that somebody copying a DVD is not a pirate.

      Unfortunately, I got a little heated when I started writing that, so I have no doubt that I wasn't very good at expressing myself.

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    5. Re:you'd never ask this question by NanoGator · · Score: 2

      *Nods* I understand what you're saying. I could easily have phrased the question better.

      I'm just really frustrated that the Gov't is going at this backwards. I'd really like our rights defined before they go passing stupid laws like the DMCA.

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  57. Correction by KITT_KATT!* · · Score: 1

    Shouldn't that be Congressman Taylor (not senator).

  58. No final vote was recorded with the House on DMCA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Both of your senators voted for it. According to the roll call, 99 senators voted yea, 1 did not vote Sen. Gregg (R-NH). Sounds kinda fishy to me right from the start there. Following the House activity thereafter (btw, DMCA was an ammending of WIPO), we see absolutely NO (none, zilch, nada, anti-democracy) vote recorded in the House roll calls regarding DMCA. In fact, the roll call records NOTHING regarding the DMCA after the Senate vote in May, 1998.

    However, following the paper work between the House and Senate Congressional Record articles from the 105th Congress we DO find that it went to conference committee, it was brought to the floor on October 12, 1998 (weeks prior to the impeachment hearings...hmmmmmm), and a vocal vote was taken to suspend the rules and agree with the conference report. Here are the recorded proceedings of our House:

    " The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the motion offered by the gentleman from North Carolina (Mr. COBLE) that the House suspend the rules and agree to the conference report on the bill, H.R. 2281 .

    The question was taken; and (two-thirds having voted in favor thereof) the rules were suspended and the conference report was agreed to.

    A motion to reconsider was laid on the table. "

    End of story. Case closed. Screw your reconsiderations. Hmmmm.

    Doesn't sound like parliamentary process to me. Last I knew we had a red, white, and blue flag, but seemingly I was mistaken and it's red with a star and sickle or something like that.

    No wonder the CARP recommendations were knocked down and certain Congressmen are petitioning letters out the door to counteract the DMCA, seeing that our Congressional representatives in the House didn't even have an official recorded vote on the subject.

    Personally, I do not believe that DMCA was legally enacted into law, and perhaps you should pose some questions to the Congressman regarding the fact that DMCA was enacted without a final recorded vote from the 105th Congress. And bring up the fact of its blatant violation of "fair use" and consumer privacy. And again, remind him that the House did not record a final vote on DMCA and ask him if this kind of activity is what he considers democracy in action.

  59. Don't ask... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just bribe him dammit! That's what he's here for!

  60. Re:Did you vote for Bill Gates and Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your ideas are intriguing and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

  61. strange... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the nick is tongue...
    he manages to meet senetors ...
    why bother loosing time asking questions man, do what you do best!

  62. A view from outside the US by 00_NOP · · Score: 2

    Look, I don't live there and it's really none of my business...but...

    Given the amount of times industry financing of congressmen's and senators' campaigns are mentioned I would suggest asking a pertinent question on campaign finance!

    To this casual observer that seems to be at the root of a lot of the problems the hacker community are facing over there.

  63. The Ultimate Question for *any* politician.... by Boiner · · Score: 1

    "Can you explain an area where you feel the government could conceivably help, but is limited by the Constitution?"

    I asked my state rep. that question in front of a room full of people, and pretty much left him speachless. It was a beautiful thing.

  64. Software patents vs. Software as free speech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The bulk of the modern disaster of IP laws comes from legislators either not understanding the subject matter, or being outright manipulated by the powers-that-be. Consider the plight of the modern programmer, whose profession is doomed by software patents.

    One cannot regard software as free speech and support software patents - the two concepts are opposites. In the context of a politician, imagine having to pay at least $250 for a copyright research for every speech he made - and then having to spend six months to 'develop' a speech that doesn't use any constructions patented by either Micro$oft or IBM.

    So where does the good Senator stand - are patents on software a good idea, or should programming be considered free speech ? And if the Senator backs the status quo, what is he going to do for all the out of work developers once they cannot get permission (or afford to buy the rights) to program from the powers-that-be ?

  65. MOD UP! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    thank you.

  66. voting record and statements by Aragorn379 · · Score: 1

    I recommend going to www.vote-smart.org for information about politicians. It's run by a bunch of volunteers and they refuse all money from anyone except private individuals. The have voting records, statements made, and the opinions of all of the position groups for every politician and candidate.