Ivanova isn't likely to fall for another female, the last mindfuck broke her heart. Maybe for Marcus Cole, but he died saving her. Spinsterhood is a 3 edged sword.
No, time travel can be done right, B5 proved that.
The characters had little or no control of the process, only got to use it once, in the entire series, and its consequences were thought out before the pilot was even filmed.
What time isn't, it isn't the Tv salt that can be sprinkled on every single meal to add a little zest to otherwise boring porridge. It's chilli pepper tha you only use once every great while, and then only the tiniest pinch. Of course, B&B pour the whole bottle on, and then wonder why it hurts so much sitting on the toilet shitting out another Star Trek series, episode by burning diarhettic episode.
An example of how convoluted (but well thought out) the plot of B5 is. Babylon 5 is the fifth, and only surviving space station like it. For years, literally, he doesn't even hint at why this is so, another dumb thing that will never be explained, maybe just for the title (Can't very well call it Babylon 1 or just plain Babylon) ?
Hell no, completely integral to the story. The demons that were fought long ago (and are fought again in the show) were winning. They had destroyed the major staging point of their opponents, a loss that late in the war meant certain doom. But these aliens were more technologically advanced than us by perhaps millions of years. So, a little temporal trickery, and they steal Babylon 4 (which disappeared mysteriously about 3 years before the show begins).
Ok, so where did the first 3 go? Well, the evil aliens got to see Babylon 4 10,000 years ago. And they still have ambitions... so when they notice these lookalike space stations being built, they sabotage them.
Help me out guys, but none of this is learned until what, end of season 2, beginning of season 3? That's right, JMS kept this secret for about 35-40 more episodes than B&B could think of doing. Better yet, where they'd be forced to spell it all out for their drooling audience, I had to finally piece it all together myself after watching the entire series nearly twice.
Does anyone honestly believe B&B could have used the life-saving machine (whatever it was called) only twice in 5 years, or that they would set it up 3 years in advance? C'mon, every other episode, 20 minutes before the end of the show. Sure, Ivanova would also have been saved, but they would have had 2 or 3 people present, so she could "safely" be saved. Remember, they can only kill off characters if a contract expires and the actor refuses to re-sign.
If you want the new Star Trek to be like the cream of the TOS crop, then you *need* JMS. There may be no one else capable of rescuing it.
They had already ruined Data's character, the one truly compelling of the entire series. I can ignore Geordi getting real eyes... he was nearly one dimensional anyway.
Data on the other hand, was the most human of all of them (Worf comes in a close second), even if he never realized it. For years, wanting to be one, he was the child that Wesley was supposed to be.
He loved, though he had trouble using that word.
He grieved for that love.
When someone tried to claim he was nothing more than a machine, he didn't sit there and wait for it to happen. He resigned, tried to leave. (Though a more interesting plot twist, that could have lasted a season or more, would have been him forcing this issue... what army could have stopped him if he had done so?).
When confronted with a sociopath, he didn't do all the liberal "let's work this out in therapy" that all the other characters would have done. He tried every reasonable strategy available, and when that wasn't enough, he decided to vaporize the sonofabitch. (Again, more interesting would have been if a plot contrivance hadn't prevented him from doing so).
He learned that he had a fucked up family. I for one, sympathize with the entire dysfunctional thing going on there.
And then Braga and Berman have to fuck all that up with a golly-gee "emotion chip" ? The entire series was the story of him not needing it, of it being the placebo while he cured himself. This is nothing profound, small children should be able to recognize this. Him hiding behind cover "scared" when he could move so quickly as to appear as nothing more than a blur is ludicrous. His sacrifice in the last movie was even worse though. Too sacharine, too contrived. The stupid thing is the size of a button, but transporters can be this miniaturized and not take 2 passengers?
The amazing part though? Even as bad as it was, they had to go and do worse. They were simply too pussified to go through with it. So one last plot contrivance allows him to "not really be dead".
Compare to B5, with Sheridan dying on Zha'ha'dum. Cheesy? Yeh, I *LOVE* B5, but it's a little bit cheesy. But it simply didn't feel contrived, JMS meant to do this all along. Angels revealed themselves to save him, and ultimately died, immortal though they were, when begged to intervene on his behalf. When even that won't do, God himself steps in, to give him one last chance to set things right. But you cared about him, you could suspend disbelief.
Star Trek 10's idea of the worst that could happen: Some romulan you know for 10 seconds has his face melted off, and Data "kinda" dies (but not really).
B5's: On the personal level, Sheridan's wife is worse than murdered by aliens that might as well be demons. She walks around, still, has her memories, but is some sort of sociopathic vampire. Later on, even his son will be possessed by them, and will live his life as the worst of tyrants. On the galactic level, the entire planet Earth is taken over in a coup d'estat by some Hitler wannabe that gets his jollies ordering attacks on unarmed refugee ships. Staging wars with other civilizations at the behest of demons, they leave in their wake ruin and death to countless millions, in the end triggering civil war even in the society of the Minbari, enlightened people who haven't known murder among themselves in ages. Decades pass before things settle down.
Even this summary doesn't do any kind of justice to the show. Real people die in it, often tragically, without being able to tie up every loose end. Hell, there is limited time travel, and you keep hoping they'll have enough foreknowledge to fix things they might have been able to (Could Sheridan have protected Molari from the watcher, or at least his son?). But they don't. JMS has his share of brainfarts, to be sure. There is even one episode that is genuinely unwatchable. But the man still understands the basics, compelling stories can't be told without letting some wrongs go unrighted. The cartoon hero shouldn't magically fix everything in the last 5 minutes of the show.
Having watched most of Firefly, a smattering of rerun Angel episodes, and a Buffy here and there, I feel qualified to judge you a retard deserving no less than a lifetime in a hospital for the criminally insane.
Besides, it's like arguing who is more evil, Hitler or Stalin & Mao.
JMS, on the other hand...
PS Am I the only one who thinks Kerry looks like a Narn?
What, you figure with 2 odd digits in there, it's doubly odd/bad? Better to make it an odd number of odd digits though, like 9.5.7. Hmm, that sounds like a open source software version...
While true in the practical sense, the Mach 25+ thing is not entirely accurate.
You could reach orbit at 5 miles per hour, as long as you sustain thrust higher than your own mass. Of course, this isn't true in a practical sense unless you have some hair-brained infinite energy source.
Also, I can't help but wonder if the Rutan design couldn't scale without major redesign. A carrier aircraft that could lift a spaceship double the mass isn't implausible... and if most of that mass is a bigger engine, how much higher can it go?
My absolute first impression was that Kerry looked like a Narn from B5. After the entire G'Kerry thing wore off, I started to listen to all his PR.
I'm not a 100% by the facts kind of guy, though those are important too. My intuition pegs him at the highest category of dishonesty. I don't think a word has exited his mouth that wasn't calculated for political effect since at least early adulthood. With that in mind, his policy preferences are meaningless. He could repeat my own verbatim, and it would only mean that he was buttering me up, not that he intended to enact them.
Not that Dubya is any better. Maybe Kerry has some undiscovered heart defect, and will drop dead on inauguration day, leaving Edwards as president. Haha.
Devil's advocate or not, this kind of bullshit rhetoric is dangerous. It can't possibly help stop terrorists. Our government has a trillion dollar a year budget (literally), and had already gotten "a little more leeway" even before this happened. It was not clueless, FBI agents had everything they needed, months in advance, to have noticed this and put a stop to it. They didn't even come close.
And now, you're suggesting that we give up our last little bit of freedom, just so they can pretend they're protecting us?
Yes, only congress can declare wars. And I can vote them out of office, if they go declaring war left and right. Thank god, or Dubya might have dragged us into a mess in Iraq.
Edwards struck me as slightly more honest than most politicians. This coming from someone that generally hates democrats more than he hates republicans. Kerry though, is the worst kind of candidate there is.
Election reform, though? Like a Republocrat congress will ever vote that into effect.
As a (former)laptop repair technician, I'd like to point out that the backlight is a seperate, discrete component in most models. Often, it will be another component than the bulb causing the backlight failure. Take it back and force the issue.
Assuming you paid by credit card for the PSP, see if they'll chargeback the store.
I'm detecting elevated levels of iso-sarcasions in your post. If we don't modulate your psyche through the deflector beam immediately, we'll be thrown back through time to the 1940's where an alternative timeline Hitler will become CEO of IBM !
And bring 3 redshi.. er, security officers with you !
If you want to pretend to be logical, fine. Who am I to tell the lie.
Assume the reverse were true, Gore stole the presidency from Bush. Would Moore be up in arms about it? No. Therefor, he is pissed *his* favorite political party isn't in control, not that *america's* isn't in control.
More so, anyone who believes there are 2 seperate poltical parties needs sense knocked into them. Two names for the same thing, 2 sock puppets on the hands of one man. Neither are even minimally acceptable.
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Ivanova isn't likely to fall for another female, the last mindfuck broke her heart. Maybe for Marcus Cole, but he died saving her. Spinsterhood is a 3 edged sword.
Problems:
Marcus Cole would win. He cheats. Then it would just be him and Garibaldi trading one-liners.
Plus, my bets on Ivanova.
Mel Brooks hasn't had anything truly great since Blazing Saddles, or maybe Young Frankenstein.
No, time travel can be done right, B5 proved that.
The characters had little or no control of the process, only got to use it once, in the entire series, and its consequences were thought out before the pilot was even filmed.
What time isn't, it isn't the Tv salt that can be sprinkled on every single meal to add a little zest to otherwise boring porridge. It's chilli pepper tha you only use once every great while, and then only the tiniest pinch. Of course, B&B pour the whole bottle on, and then wonder why it hurts so much sitting on the toilet shitting out another Star Trek series, episode by burning diarhettic episode.
An example of how convoluted (but well thought out) the plot of B5 is. Babylon 5 is the fifth, and only surviving space station like it. For years, literally, he doesn't even hint at why this is so, another dumb thing that will never be explained, maybe just for the title (Can't very well call it Babylon 1 or just plain Babylon) ?
Hell no, completely integral to the story. The demons that were fought long ago (and are fought again in the show) were winning. They had destroyed the major staging point of their opponents, a loss that late in the war meant certain doom. But these aliens were more technologically advanced than us by perhaps millions of years. So, a little temporal trickery, and they steal Babylon 4 (which disappeared mysteriously about 3 years before the show begins).
Ok, so where did the first 3 go? Well, the evil aliens got to see Babylon 4 10,000 years ago. And they still have ambitions... so when they notice these lookalike space stations being built, they sabotage them.
Help me out guys, but none of this is learned until what, end of season 2, beginning of season 3? That's right, JMS kept this secret for about 35-40 more episodes than B&B could think of doing. Better yet, where they'd be forced to spell it all out for their drooling audience, I had to finally piece it all together myself after watching the entire series nearly twice.
Does anyone honestly believe B&B could have used the life-saving machine (whatever it was called) only twice in 5 years, or that they would set it up 3 years in advance? C'mon, every other episode, 20 minutes before the end of the show. Sure, Ivanova would also have been saved, but they would have had 2 or 3 people present, so she could "safely" be saved. Remember, they can only kill off characters if a contract expires and the actor refuses to re-sign.
If you want the new Star Trek to be like the cream of the TOS crop, then you *need* JMS. There may be no one else capable of rescuing it.
They had already ruined Data's character, the one truly compelling of the entire series. I can ignore Geordi getting real eyes... he was nearly one dimensional anyway.
Data on the other hand, was the most human of all of them (Worf comes in a close second), even if he never realized it. For years, wanting to be one, he was the child that Wesley was supposed to be.
He loved, though he had trouble using that word.
He grieved for that love.
When someone tried to claim he was nothing more than a machine, he didn't sit there and wait for it to happen. He resigned, tried to leave. (Though a more interesting plot twist, that could have lasted a season or more, would have been him forcing this issue... what army could have stopped him if he had done so?).
When confronted with a sociopath, he didn't do all the liberal "let's work this out in therapy" that all the other characters would have done. He tried every reasonable strategy available, and when that wasn't enough, he decided to vaporize the sonofabitch. (Again, more interesting would have been if a plot contrivance hadn't prevented him from doing so).
He learned that he had a fucked up family. I for one, sympathize with the entire dysfunctional thing going on there.
And then Braga and Berman have to fuck all that up with a golly-gee "emotion chip" ? The entire series was the story of him not needing it, of it being the placebo while he cured himself. This is nothing profound, small children should be able to recognize this. Him hiding behind cover "scared" when he could move so quickly as to appear as nothing more than a blur is ludicrous. His sacrifice in the last movie was even worse though. Too sacharine, too contrived. The stupid thing is the size of a button, but transporters can be this miniaturized and not take 2 passengers?
The amazing part though? Even as bad as it was, they had to go and do worse. They were simply too pussified to go through with it. So one last plot contrivance allows him to "not really be dead".
Compare to B5, with Sheridan dying on Zha'ha'dum. Cheesy? Yeh, I *LOVE* B5, but it's a little bit cheesy. But it simply didn't feel contrived, JMS meant to do this all along. Angels revealed themselves to save him, and ultimately died, immortal though they were, when begged to intervene on his behalf. When even that won't do, God himself steps in, to give him one last chance to set things right. But you cared about him, you could suspend disbelief.
Star Trek 10's idea of the worst that could happen: Some romulan you know for 10 seconds has his face melted off, and Data "kinda" dies (but not really).
B5's: On the personal level, Sheridan's wife is worse than murdered by aliens that might as well be demons. She walks around, still, has her memories, but is some sort of sociopathic vampire. Later on, even his son will be possessed by them, and will live his life as the worst of tyrants. On the galactic level, the entire planet Earth is taken over in a coup d'estat by some Hitler wannabe that gets his jollies ordering attacks on unarmed refugee ships. Staging wars with other civilizations at the behest of demons, they leave in their wake ruin and death to countless millions, in the end triggering civil war even in the society of the Minbari, enlightened people who haven't known murder among themselves in ages. Decades pass before things settle down.
Even this summary doesn't do any kind of justice to the show. Real people die in it, often tragically, without being able to tie up every loose end. Hell, there is limited time travel, and you keep hoping they'll have enough foreknowledge to fix things they might have been able to (Could Sheridan have protected Molari from the watcher, or at least his son?). But they don't. JMS has his share of brainfarts, to be sure. There is even one episode that is genuinely unwatchable. But the man still understands the basics, compelling stories can't be told without letting some wrongs go unrighted. The cartoon hero shouldn't magically fix everything in the last 5 minutes of the show.
Having watched most of Firefly, a smattering of rerun Angel episodes, and a Buffy here and there, I feel qualified to judge you a retard deserving no less than a lifetime in a hospital for the criminally insane.
Besides, it's like arguing who is more evil, Hitler or Stalin & Mao.
JMS, on the other hand...
PS Am I the only one who thinks Kerry looks like a Narn?
I only mod up references to movie/historical pirates. Willing to change that to Jack Sparrow?
PS Take the "movie pirates" however you want to, Mr. Valenti.
PPS Yes, I'm aware that no warez kiddies in their right mind will be willing to pirate this new movie...
What, you figure with 2 odd digits in there, it's doubly odd/bad? Better to make it an odd number of odd digits though, like 9.5.7. Hmm, that sounds like a open source software version...
Funny you should mention Godwin's law, but how does it apply to those episodes that directly refer to Nazis?
Iso-blindions, or temporal blindions? The former tend to burn out relays when diverted through the warp chamber.
Oops, guess I won't be fixing that. Haha.
(Posting anonymously so I can fix some asshat's unfair use of offtopic)
I take my 2nd ammendment rights seriously.
Since when is 5mph an altitude?
You could reach LEO, it would just take awhile. Time, and a metric shitload of fuel.
While true in the practical sense, the Mach 25+ thing is not entirely accurate.
You could reach orbit at 5 miles per hour, as long as you sustain thrust higher than your own mass. Of course, this isn't true in a practical sense unless you have some hair-brained infinite energy source.
Also, I can't help but wonder if the Rutan design couldn't scale without major redesign. A carrier aircraft that could lift a spaceship double the mass isn't implausible... and if most of that mass is a bigger engine, how much higher can it go?
So they declare war without declaring it?
Hmm, you are right I suppose. They're all worthless sacks of shit.
My absolute first impression was that Kerry looked like a Narn from B5. After the entire G'Kerry thing wore off, I started to listen to all his PR.
I'm not a 100% by the facts kind of guy, though those are important too. My intuition pegs him at the highest category of dishonesty. I don't think a word has exited his mouth that wasn't calculated for political effect since at least early adulthood. With that in mind, his policy preferences are meaningless. He could repeat my own verbatim, and it would only mean that he was buttering me up, not that he intended to enact them.
Not that Dubya is any better. Maybe Kerry has some undiscovered heart defect, and will drop dead on inauguration day, leaving Edwards as president. Haha.
Devil's advocate or not, this kind of bullshit rhetoric is dangerous. It can't possibly help stop terrorists. Our government has a trillion dollar a year budget (literally), and had already gotten "a little more leeway" even before this happened. It was not clueless, FBI agents had everything they needed, months in advance, to have noticed this and put a stop to it. They didn't even come close.
And now, you're suggesting that we give up our last little bit of freedom, just so they can pretend they're protecting us?
Yes, only congress can declare wars. And I can vote them out of office, if they go declaring war left and right. Thank god, or Dubya might have dragged us into a mess in Iraq.
Edwards struck me as slightly more honest than most politicians. This coming from someone that generally hates democrats more than he hates republicans. Kerry though, is the worst kind of candidate there is.
Election reform, though? Like a Republocrat congress will ever vote that into effect.
If the CIA doesn't have audit logs that tell everytime a USB device driver is active on its network, then they're stupider than even I believed.
Oh wait, chinese embassy. WMDs. 9-11.
Nevermind.
The first person to hack a believable cig lighter, or ballpoint pen that has a USB drive, will blow their security to hell?
As a (former)laptop repair technician, I'd like to point out that the backlight is a seperate, discrete component in most models. Often, it will be another component than the bulb causing the backlight failure. Take it back and force the issue.
Assuming you paid by credit card for the PSP, see if they'll chargeback the store.
I'm detecting elevated levels of iso-sarcasions in your post. If we don't modulate your psyche through the deflector beam immediately, we'll be thrown back through time to the 1940's where an alternative timeline Hitler will become CEO of IBM !
And bring 3 redshi.. er, security officers with you !
If you want to pretend to be logical, fine. Who am I to tell the lie.
Assume the reverse were true, Gore stole the presidency from Bush. Would Moore be up in arms about it? No. Therefor, he is pissed *his* favorite political party isn't in control, not that *america's* isn't in control.
More so, anyone who believes there are 2 seperate poltical parties needs sense knocked into them. Two names for the same thing, 2 sock puppets on the hands of one man. Neither are even minimally acceptable.
Enviromental movement? Movement in the sense of 'bowel movement', I take it.